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SnaFuBAR
May 29th, 2008, 03:37 AM
fix and release for open source? i really hate the forearms.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4966/elitefp2ho9.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2586/elitefp1iw9.jpg

NuggetWarmer
May 29th, 2008, 03:51 AM
CLS_Grunt has some he made, but it's always good to have more than one floating around.

n00b1n8R
May 29th, 2008, 04:57 AM
Is it just me or do the hands look like their cupping a feel. :v:

Also, DO IT

Sel
May 29th, 2008, 07:07 AM
Its always nice to have variety to choose from, so go ahead.

Theyre far from bad :)

Scooby Doo
May 29th, 2008, 07:09 AM
lol, i remember unwrapping these things like 50 years ago...

sorry i never finished them. but mb someone will be interested.

~Scooby

Pooky
May 29th, 2008, 07:44 AM
A lot of people have been wanting high quality elite FP arms since CE came out. Do it. :D

SnaFuBAR
May 29th, 2008, 10:57 AM
Is it just me or do the hands look like their cupping a feel. :v:

Also, DO IT
because you're not supposed to model the hands flat (unlike the cs fp hands), because rigging and mesh deform is crap.

StankBacon
May 29th, 2008, 11:16 AM
looks good.

Patrickssj6
May 29th, 2008, 01:33 PM
Looks good...I'd rep you but it says I have to spread some more herpes around before giving it back to you

Martini-562
May 29th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Looks nice

SnaFuBAR
May 29th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Looks good...I'd rep you but it says I have to spread some more herpes around before giving it back to you
D: you are a twisted man!

yeah, i think i'll fix em up and release em.

Heathen
May 29th, 2008, 04:09 PM
do.

ICEE
May 29th, 2008, 05:22 PM
Are they rigged?

t3h m00kz
May 29th, 2008, 06:22 PM
Are they skinned?

Hotrod
May 29th, 2008, 07:02 PM
I find that those arms look great, except that the arms, excluding the hands, are too short, and too thin.

Heathen
May 29th, 2008, 07:53 PM
mb beef them up?

SnaFuBAR
May 29th, 2008, 11:11 PM
I find that those arms look great, except that the arms, excluding the hands, are too short, and too thin.
wrong. they're the same length and a tad beefier than h2 arms. thanks for the honest observation though.

not skinned, not uv'd, not rigged.

Apoc4lypse
May 30th, 2008, 02:30 PM
I voted no, because there not skinned :cop:

or rigged?

I know you can skin, the guns prove it. :D

Hotrod
May 30th, 2008, 07:55 PM
wrong. they're the same length and a tad beefier than h2 arms.

Well, it just doesn't look right to me, maybe the hands are a little too big? It could all be right though, and just my perception of it.

Gwunty
May 30th, 2008, 10:02 PM
CLS_Grunt has some he made, but it's always good to have more than one floating around.
Yhea but snafus has more awesome than mine
Anyways snaf great arms, I hope in the end you do end up open sauce-ing them.

PenGuin1362
May 30th, 2008, 11:07 PM
Release em regardless of skin/rig, someone is bound to do it eventually. Maybe someone will volunteer in the mean time.

p0lar_bear
May 31st, 2008, 02:57 AM
I vaguely remember you or someone else asking me if I could Elite-ify my Halo 2 HUD (purple, rounded edges) to go with those same arms.

Syuusuke
May 31st, 2008, 10:39 AM
If they are fully functional to grab tits, go for it.

ICEE
May 31st, 2008, 10:57 AM
If they are fully functional to grab tits, go for it.
Elites don't have tits. But really I don't see any point in releasing unrigged arms. Not very many people can rig well enough to do FP arms.

SnaFuBAR
May 31st, 2008, 12:16 PM
i'll see what can be done about uv's and rigging. then i'll release. this is for sure.

ICEE
May 31st, 2008, 12:28 PM
Ok goodie. Im looking forward to animating them. It would be REALLY cool of you to rig it to a set of FP arms that already had a cyborg fp model rigged onto it specifically for animating. This would allow animators to animate with both elite and cyborg arms at the same time. Just a thought

SnaFuBAR
May 31st, 2008, 12:46 PM
what do you mean, like... cyborg arms at the back?

ICEE
May 31st, 2008, 12:57 PM
what do you mean, like... cyborg arms at the back?
I mean have them rigged to the same bones. That way, when animating with them you could ensure that the animations work with both arm sets without any unacceptable clipping etc. It wouldn't really make life any harder on the rigger either, since he could just hide the cyborg model while rigging the elite model.

PenGuin1362
May 31st, 2008, 01:00 PM
only problem is they have different bone structure >_> therefore not possible.

ICEE
May 31st, 2008, 01:13 PM
I disagree. You can just not rig any part of the elite model to the pinky bones.

teh lag
May 31st, 2008, 02:00 PM
I disagree. You can just not rig any part of the elite model to the pinky bones.

What penguin meant (I assume) is that the bone proportions are different. Yes, you can rig them to the same nodes, but one set (depending on which one you animate with) would end up distorted and generally looking bad in the end product. And noone wants that.

ICEE
May 31st, 2008, 04:05 PM
What penguin meant (I assume) is that the bone proportions are different. Yes, you can rig them to the same nodes, but one set (depending on which one you animate with) would end up distorted and generally looking bad in the end product. And noone wants that.


Yeah, that is true. I think that may be the best you could hope to achieve though, unless you make your own bone structure. It just wont work properly with any animations made with the cyborg rig.

teh lag
May 31st, 2008, 04:24 PM
Yeah, that is true. I think that may be the best you could hope to achieve though, unless you make your own bone structure. It just wont work properly with any animations made with the cyborg rig.

I think having a better end-product is more important than having an easier time making it. Maybe having two rigs; one for H1's fp and another one with custom bones would allow the most flexiblility in this case, since I don't think anyone's up to making custom anims for every weapon.

ICEE
May 31st, 2008, 05:01 PM
I think having a better end-product is more important than having an easier time making it. Maybe having tow rigs; one for H1's fp and another one with custom bones would allow the most flexiblility in this case though, since I don't think anyone's up to making custom anims for every weapon.

Yes, not everyone can animate anyways, so a completely custom rig would be useless to the vast majority of people who will download the tags

SnaFuBAR
May 31st, 2008, 05:02 PM
that's a good suggestion. thanks guys.

SnaFuBAR
June 2nd, 2008, 01:10 PM
i'm starting to consider open sourcing a large portion of my halo models. what say the community?

JunkfoodMan
June 2nd, 2008, 01:21 PM
I say go for it.

NuggetWarmer
June 2nd, 2008, 01:24 PM
Do it! :D

DaneO'Roo
June 2nd, 2008, 03:46 PM
I thought I started uv mapping these a way back long time ago snaf, maybe I can finish them.

SnaFuBAR
June 2nd, 2008, 05:14 PM
i edited them, they don't have the ugly extra low poly ovals on the inside of the forearms anymore.

PenGuin1362
June 2nd, 2008, 08:20 PM
Yes, not everyone can animate anyways, so a completely custom rig would be useless to the vast majority of people who will download the tags

well then that vast majority would have no use for the tags then huh. What you're suggesting will not work, it look absolutely retarded and is a waste of time.


also :bandwagon: with snaf, release stuff?

SnaFuBAR
June 23rd, 2008, 10:28 PM
So the arms are almost uv'd, and wanksta(-=Inferno=-) has given me his bone rig he made for his ripped elite fp arms (which you guys were so rude about). This may actually see a release.

ICEE
June 23rd, 2008, 10:29 PM
Happy clad. I'm really anticipating this. Oodles of rep for you on release day

SnaFuBAR
June 23rd, 2008, 11:03 PM
I'm really anticipating this, too, since it'll be my first non-private release.

Invader Veex
June 23rd, 2008, 11:04 PM
Awesome, I'd love to make some animations with elite arms. Glad to see this is still being worked on for release.

TK421
June 23rd, 2008, 11:05 PM
I'm with the bandwagon on this one. Glad to see you'll be releasing them! =D

HDoan
June 24th, 2008, 12:07 AM
I'm getting okay at animating (So people tell me), maybe I could do the Assault rifle and sniper. If you want to see some new renders just pm me.

PenGuin1362
June 24th, 2008, 08:36 AM
Oh my god, snaf is close to actually releasing something...GET TO ZEE CHOPPER! THE WORLD IS ENDING.

Offspring
June 24th, 2008, 04:43 PM
rigging is not that hard, it is the first time, but once you do it after that its easy...those arms should take no more than 2 hours to properly unwrap too, you could finish it tonight and find someone to skin it for you. I'd do it but im on vacation...:pjkjk

SnaFuBAR
June 24th, 2008, 05:24 PM
actually it's the opposite way. someone is unwrapping and i'm skinning.

DarkHalo003
June 24th, 2008, 06:37 PM
Definitely release the arms! I know a handful of people who could use them.