Help Building New PC.

[The_Wraith]

I'm not getting much help at Gearbox so far so: Welp. (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?p=1348291#post1348291) :confused2: (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?p=1348291#post1348291)

[legionaire45]

I posted something in your thread on GBX under the name "Lampshade".

[The_Wraith]

Thanks. Need more opinions and suggestions. :p

[paladin]

Where are you buying from? The Intel Q6600 is now on $194.99. I'd go with that

[The_Wraith]

Did you bother clicking the link at all?

[Xetsuei]

Thanks. Need more opinions and suggestions. :p

His setup is the best there is, and I doubt someone else will take the time to find the parts for you, not like theirs would be better than Legionnaire's anyway.

[Amit]

Sup, Wraith. It's funny how you spend more than you need to on a power supply yet you spent almost half of that on the video card. All you really need is a a good Antec True Power Trio 550W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371002&Tpk=truePower%2bTrio%2b550) PSU and spend a bit more on at least a GeForce 9600GT (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130360). The rest should be good. It'll say you some cash in the long run because soon you'll find that the 8600GT just won't cut it for anything. Wouldn't it be nice to finalyl be able to participate in extreme fleet battles and not have your video card shut your dreams down?

[Snowy]

When getting an ATI card: Advice: Don't get Sapphire. Worst Support. Ever.

Get Visiontek.

[Amit]

When getting an ATI card: Advice: Don't get Sapphire. Worst Support. Ever.

Get Visiontek.

That's not an issue. Sapphire and ASUS cards are the most reliable. Man you people seem to like to destroy your cards just to see how good support is. I'm running a Powercolor X1600PRO that I've had running continuously since November 2005. That's almost 3 years with no problems. Don't be afraid to buy a video card or shout out that a certain company sucks without evidence!

[Snowy]

That's not an issue. Sapphire and ASUS cards are the most reliable. Man you people seem to like to destroy your cards just to see how good support is. I'm running a Powercolor X1600PRO that I've had running continuously since November 2005. That's almost 3 years with no problems. Don't be afraid to buy a video card or shout out that a certain company sucks without evidence!
I wouldn't say a certain company sucks without either personal experience with them, or reading about it on other places. Unfortunately, I've had the experience of doing both with Sapphire.

If you would like to read about how bad Sapphire support is, be my guest
Thread 1 (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1321808)
Thread 2 (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1234926)
Thread 3 (http://forums.sapphiretech.com/showthread.php?t=6169)
Thread 4 (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2214235)
And if you really want a good laugh, just head on over to the Sapphire Support Forums (http://forums.sapphiretech.com/index.php?) and give a few threads some reading.

When you're buying a new video card - all of them are the same. The only thing different is the sticker that comes on the heatsink, and the people backing up the card. Who cares about the sticker? So basically you're paying for the warranty and the support you get with it.

[Amit]

I wouldn't say a certain company sucks without either personal experience with them, or reading about it on other places. Unfortunately, I've had the experience of doing both with Sapphire.

If you would like to read about how bad Sapphire support is, be my guest
Thread 1 (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1321808)
Thread 2 (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1234926)
Thread 3 (http://forums.sapphiretech.com/showthread.php?t=6169)
Thread 4 (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2214235)
And if you really want a good laugh, just head on over to the Sapphire Support Forums (http://forums.sapphiretech.com/index.php?) and give a few threads some reading.

There we go, that's what we need to see. I never had problems with my Atomic HD3870s so I never needed support.


When you're buying a new video card - all of them are the same. The only thing different is the sticker that comes on the heatsink, and the people backing up the card. Who cares about the sticker? So basically you're paying for the warranty and the support you get with it.

That's not entirely correct. With the HD 4000 series might be but previous generations of cards aren't all like that. The Atomic/Toxic HD3870s were probably the best out there because of the superior cooling methods.

[The_Wraith]

Alright so far this is what I'm getting:

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068
Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186148
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023
GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036
RAM x 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227139
DVD x 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131

Subtotal: $690.91
Total: $771.59
Total W/MIR: $711.59

It's a little over what I wanted to spend but I think it'll be fine.

[Amit]

Alright so far this is what I'm getting:

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068
Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186148
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023
GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036
RAM x 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227139
DVD x 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131

Subtotal: $690.91
Total: $771.59
Total W/MIR: $711.59

It's a little over what I wanted to spend but I think it'll be fine.

Looks good but the case is a little plain but it's probably not an issue since you picked it out yourself. IF you can manage to muster together $20 more you can get the HD4850 which outperforms that 8800GT by about 3 times.

[ultama121]

Yeah, the 4850 will last you sooo much longer.

[The_Wraith]

Looks good but the case is a little plain but it's probably not an issue since you picked it out yourself. IF you can manage to muster together $20 more you can get the HD4850 which outperforms that 8800GT by about 3 times. I only have slight technical knowhow so I picked those for the price and what I know. Is all that compatible?

And to my other problem. My HDD is fine and dandy and still has XP partitioned on it so: Can I just pop it into this new rig and boot it up as if it were the old comp? Or do I have to reinstall XP and redo my settings/user profiles and reinstall my programs?

About the card, I just trust Nvidia more because I know the brand and every card I've had was one. So excuse the choice if you think one's better.

[Xetsuei]

I only have slight technical knowhow so I picked those for the price and what I know. Is all that compatible?

You should just go with Legionnaire's list and add some stuff too it.

And to my other problem. My HDD is fine and dandy and still has XP partitioned on it so: Can I just pop it into this new rig and boot it up as if it were the old comp? Or do I have to reinstall XP and redo my settings/user profiles and reinstall my programs?

I'm fairly sure you're going to have to reinstall XP.

About the card, I just trust Nvidia more because I know the brand and every card I've had was one. So excuse the choice if you think one's better.

It's not what he thinks, it's a fact the 4850 is way better than the 8800GT.

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[The_Wraith]

Xetsuei™;290357'].You didn't click the links. The only things different from that other list is the GPU and Case. I just want to know if what I posted works or not really.

Changed the Power supply to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341001

Jacked up the price to $824.14 though with the MIR price at $744.14....

[Amit]

And to my other problem. My HDD is fine and dandy and still has XP partitioned on it so: Can I just pop it into this new rig and boot it up as if it were the old comp? Or do I have to reinstall XP and redo my settings/user profiles and reinstall my programs?

I'm fairly sure you're going to have to reinstall XP.

It is true but you can still get your files quite easily. If the drive itself is not corrupt, you may install Windows XP on a different drive using your new hardware, then pop in the drive with all your shit, reboot into the new drive, go to My Computer and then just copy and paste shit off of it onto the new hard drive. Usually, if you can borrow a friend's drive that is larger and formatted to your new hardware, you can just copy and paste your shit onto that drive, reformat your old drive, reinstall XP by deactivating your current OS Key(only for activation after installation on the freshly formatted drive) on the current drive, reinstall windows on the formatted drive usign the same key and copying your shit back over. Once that's done, just activate using phone service and the phone operator will ask u a few questions, deactivate the key on the old account, and actvate ur current windows install. After that, just reformat your friend's drive and send it back to him.

It sounds complicated and a hassle but it's not that boring to do. It's pretty easy. Could have that done in about 2 hours depending on farmatting and install times.



About the card, I just trust Nvidia more because I know the brand and every card I've had was one. So excuse the choice if you think one's better.

It's not what he thinks, it's a fact the 4850 is way better than the 8800GT.

Wraith, listen up because this is the last time we're going to tell you. Relying on a brand you know and trust is great but when the people who actually own and recommend the card, do you not trust us? You trust a money making company more than us?
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Changed the Power supply to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341001


Good choice, I've got that.

[The_Wraith]

All I'm going off of is that multiple reviews says it has heating issues and this comp is going to be in a tight space in, not to mention, a generally hot room. I need something that isn't going to burn out on me.

Also the 8800GT is $20 less for something that absolutely exceeds what I need. I don't know why I would pay more for something I don't need. I'll build my own, better computer when I move out. This one stays with my family.

[Amit]

All I'm going off of is that multiple reviews says it has heating issues and this comp is going to be in a tight space in, not to mention, a generally hot room. I need something that isn't going to burn out on me.

Also the 8800GT is $20 less for something that absolutely exceeds what I need. I don't know why I would pay more for something I don't need. I'll build my own, better computer when I move out. This one stays with my family.

I'd say that's a good call but you must remember don't have any issues with it besides the heating. Still I like a cool case and who doesn't? If you are absolutely sure, go ahead and purchase the 8800GT.

[The_Wraith]

Okay so I got what I posted except only 1 DVD drive. Pretty cool. Hope I don't have problems when building it and I think I need a BIOS tutorial or something.

Oh and I got minused rep from Xet because he doesn't like what card I'm getting. Cool right? :cop:

[Amit]

Okay so I got what I posted except only 1 DVD drive. Pretty cool. Hope I don't have problems when building it and I think I need a BIOS tutorial or something.

Oh and I got minused rep from Xet because he doesn't like what card I'm getting. Cool right? :cop:

Forgive him, he has a tendency to do that when he doesn't see something he likes.

[Patrickssj6]

Those Intel Bridges...good luck.

[The_Wraith]

^What? :raise:

[Xetsuei]

Oh and I got minused rep from Xet because he doesn't like what card I'm getting. Cool right? :cop:

It's not about the card, it's that you're choosing to get a computer $100 more than Legionnaire's setup and it's not even as good.

[Snowy]

All I'm going off of is that multiple reviews says it has heating issues and this comp is going to be in a tight space in, not to mention, a generally hot room. I need something that isn't going to burn out on me.
Right, because the 8800GT isn't hot, either. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[The_Wraith]

Xetsuei™;290761']It's not about the card, it's that you're choosing to get a computer $100 more than Legionnaire's setup and it's not even as good.Everything is exactly the same except for the case and graphics card.

A. I like that case more.
B. The HD4850 costs more than the 8800GT and has heating issues, which, according to the reviews, the 8800GT does not.

Once again I fail to see how Legionaire's setup can be much better when the only difference, when you get down to it, is the graphics card. Please explain what else is different and 'not even as good.'


[EDIT] Also, I just added it all up and, including 3-day shipping and MIR, Legionaire's setup is $22 more expensive than my final setup. :v:

[Xetsuei]

Please explain to me why yours is $100 more. :raise:

[The_Wraith]

Xetsuei™;290863']Please explain to me why yours is $100 more. :raise:




[EDIT] Also, I just added it all up and, including 3-day shipping and MIR, Legionaire's setup is $22 more expensive than my final setup. :v:
:hist101:

[Snowy]

Everything is exactly the same except for the case and graphics card.

A. I like that case more.
B. The HD4850 costs more than the 8800GT and has heating issues, which, according to the reviews, the 8800GT does not.

Once again I fail to see how Legionaire's setup can be much better when the only difference, when you get down to it, is the graphics card. Please explain what else is different and 'not even as good.'


[EDIT] Also, I just added it all up and, including 3-day shipping and MIR, Legionaire's setup is $22 more expensive than my final setup. :v:
The HD 4850 does not have heat issues.

[Warsaw]

@Wraith: FYI, the 4850 was designed to run at those temperatures, and even then, all you have to do is alter a file to make the fan run at a higher speed. Done.

4850 > 8800GT by FAR.

[Amit]

@Wraith: FYI, the 4850 was designed to run at those temperatures, and even then, all you have to do is alter a file to make the fan run at a higher speed. Done.

4850 > 8800GT by FAR.

is this not what I posted before? Unless it was in another thread.

[Warsaw]

Probably. Just reinforcing the point. The more voices behind an opinion, the more likely it is to be taken as most likely true.

[The_Wraith]

Well I already ordered what I needed. In fact it exceeds my expectations.

Just going to need some building advice and BIOS help at this point.

[Warsaw]

Use a grounding strap so you don't run the risk of frying a component with static.
Make sure your wires are not obstructing any airflow.
Try not to connect too many things to the same rail. That can lead to overloads.

BIOS is pretty self-explanatory once you get in it. Boot priorities, clock multipliers, etc.

[Bodzilla]

All I'm going off of is that multiple reviews says it has heating issues and this comp is going to be in a tight space in, not to mention, a generally hot room. I need something that isn't going to burn out on me.

Also the 8800GT is $20 less for something that absolutely exceeds what I need. I don't know why I would pay more for something I don't need. I'll build my own, better computer when I move out. This one stays with my family.
idiocy.

you dont see that what you'll need in 3 months time will be Vastly different to what you need now?
and that a 4850 will save you hundreds of dollars on down the line.

BUT HUR HUR NVUIDIA FTW !11

and onto the building, why should we give you advice now, seeing as you have had such a blatant disregard for our advice earlier.

[Amit]

I think everyone should cool down. While I agree with Mr. Bodman, if he just couldn't find the extra $20 to get the HD4850...that's a financial problem and he's a cheapass but that's what he could afford.

*Still don't know why he paid so much more on this system though:iiam:*

[Patrickssj6]

Don't touch the BIOS unless for changing the Boot Sequence. Done.

Ground yourself, don't wear polyester, don't work on a carpet floor. Touch the computer case before touching anything else inside the case.

[The_Wraith]

*Still don't know why he paid so much more on this system though:iiam:*I didn't. Add it up.

Oh and I asked for advice, I never said I would take it. Get over yourselves.

[Xetsuei]

I didn't. Add it up.

Oh and I asked for advice, I never said I would take it. Get over yourselves.

What the hell is wrong with you. Why ask for advice and then not take it? That's like asking someone to make you a sandwich, and not eating it. What the fuck.

[Amit]

Since everything is done, I suggest this thread be locked until further questions must be asked.

Xet, better just to leave it alone. People do retarded stuff for no reason. And Wraith, don't do that again.

[Bodzilla]

I think everyone should cool down. While I agree with Mr. Bodman, if he just couldn't find the extra $20 to get the HD4850...that's a financial problem and he's a cheapass but that's what he could afford.

*Still don't know why he paid so much more on this system though:iiam:*
it's not about him being cheap, it's about him being an idiotic fanboy that rejects facts and reason after asking for it.

[The_Wraith]

You guys were a great help. Self-righteous douchebags. Grow the fuck up.