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ICEE
October 27th, 2008, 07:34 PM
Law enforcement agents have broken up a plot by two neo-Nazi skinheads to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 88 black people, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives said Monday. In court records unsealed Monday in U.S. District Court in Jackson, Tenn., federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school in a murder spree that was to begin in Tennessee. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name. source found by Donut (http://news.aol.com/article/feds-bust-skinhead-plot-to-kill-obama/227448)

Christ, who called it?

L0d3x
October 27th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Man, why all the hate?

Terry
October 27th, 2008, 07:37 PM
Yeah I just saw this on CNN as well and seriously what the fuck? I'm not suprised in the least really, I just didn't think it would be a bunch of RANDOMN IDIOTS who would be trying to do this.
Man, people are so stupid these days.

ultama121
October 27th, 2008, 07:43 PM
Meh... I'm not worried. It takes more than a few whities to handle this:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2r57xvn.jpg

rossmum
October 27th, 2008, 07:48 PM
Perhaps they wanted to identify with them but needed to decapitate them first so they'd be of equal mental prowess

Amit
October 27th, 2008, 08:04 PM
Shall America tolerate such douchebaggery?

ICEE
October 27th, 2008, 08:09 PM
Nope. That's why the feds arrested them.

Mass
October 27th, 2008, 08:26 PM
Man, why all the hate?
I know, who would expect this from a couple of skinheads?

Really, I think they'd have gotten pretty well killed or captured after the school shooting, and imagine what a school shooting perpetrated by white supremacists would have done to the election...?

ICEE
October 27th, 2008, 08:30 PM
Yeah, exactly. And if Obama gets elected, he's going to have one hell of a duck and cover presidency.

SnaFuBAR
October 27th, 2008, 08:48 PM
Or FBI and CIA investigations into radical domestic terrorist hate groups would be accelerated and any people of interest would be caught before incident, while at the same time doing more through background investigations to military hopefuls and lack of travel to states where high powered rifles are not banned.

ICEE
October 27th, 2008, 09:03 PM
Glad that your optimistic about it snaf.

Bodzilla
October 28th, 2008, 02:34 AM
Yeah I just saw this on CNN as well and seriously what the fuck? I'm not suprised in the least really, I just didn't think it would be a bunch of RANDOMN IDIOTS who would be trying to do this.
Man, people are so stupid these days.
Remember JFK man.

Zeph
October 28th, 2008, 02:41 AM
Worst part about it is that it only takes one.

Sel
October 28th, 2008, 08:21 AM
oh cool theres still a chance that Ill see a presidential assasination live on tv.

then be afraid to change the channel for the next 30 years

Tweek
October 28th, 2008, 11:20 AM
well i said ages ago he was just going to get killed anyway, because come on, this IS AMERICA WERE TALKING ABOUT!

i read it in the paper, and i actually said to myself: i told them so.

ICEE
October 28th, 2008, 12:11 PM
Assassinations happen in lots of countries tweek, or do we not remember archduke ferdinand?

Atty
October 28th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Oh god, this is the first (actually, probably not...) of many...

Regardless of my or anyone's political views of feelings towards Obama, we can all only hope this never happens. Imagine the black community out cry, it's going to be insane. No one will be innocent, any white man (assuming it's a white man who kills him) will be held responsible and regardless of who kills them, I fear we'll still get the blame.

I don't know about you guys but I'm going to go start setting up the noose traps and set some crosses ablaze just in case.

SnaFuBAR
October 28th, 2008, 12:52 PM
If it were to ever happen, you can forget the race riots like after Rodney King, it'd be full on race warfare.

SexyTime
October 28th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Playah Hatahs! :gonk:

Heathen
October 28th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Its bound to happen. It wont be avoided. They will try to assassinate him even if he pulled out of the election right now.

They wanna make the rest of the potential black candidates scared.


I applaud him for standing his gound.

And no Atty, it isnt the first.

THere have been (to my knowledge) two others.

ICEE
October 28th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Christ, Atty thats a good point. Thats scary... I guess for the next 4 - 8 years, white people should be ready to hide somewhere. Makes me glad to live near an air force base.

Sargent_Hawk
October 28th, 2008, 03:49 PM
^ Lol, I live close to one as well, 15-30 minutes and I'm there.
Allthough if anyhign goes down I have heard people say that if stuff starts goign down they want to come to my house. :cool:

Huero
October 28th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Maryland has like...
5 Army bases. We also have the Aberdeen proving grounds, so we have ALL kinds of secret stuff :D
And the Naval Academy.

SnaFuBAR
October 28th, 2008, 04:34 PM
I'm also betting that if there were large scale racial wars anywhere in the US, martial law would be imposed. So there'd go some freedoms...

deathret
October 28th, 2008, 04:50 PM
I'm proud of Obama to be brave enough to face the real fears of racism and hate. He's kind of like an another Martin Luther King Jr.

Siliconmaster
October 28th, 2008, 04:55 PM
I say, go ahead and fight against the threats- Obama has to stand tall and proud to show that stupid racists can't have their way in America, the land of the free. Where do they think they're living?

kenney001
October 28th, 2008, 05:37 PM
damn they foiled it...

DaneO'Roo
October 28th, 2008, 05:42 PM
Meh, Obama will be killed, but not by skinheads.

The only reason the government is gunna let Obama win is to have him be "assassinated by terrorists" to help fund a war in Iran or something. Since hes such a popular figure in the public, it could cause a war rally like none we've ever seen.

DaneO'Roo
October 28th, 2008, 05:51 PM
I'm proud of Obama to be brave enough to face the real fears of racism and hate. He's kind of like an another Martin Luther King Jr.

We all know how that one ended, don't we.

SnaFuBAR
October 28th, 2008, 05:54 PM
with equal rights.

ICEE
October 28th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Your theories are crazy and ridiculous Dane.

Pyong Kawaguchi
October 28th, 2008, 06:30 PM
But totally possible at the same time, its just George's "secret" plan to nuke all of the middle east into oblivion.

Sel
October 28th, 2008, 07:05 PM
with equal rights.

kill obama for social improvement!

ICEE
October 28th, 2008, 07:33 PM
But totally possible at the same time, its just George's "secret" plan to nuke all of the middle east into oblivion.
:lol:

Bush? the mastermind? oh please.

Heathen
October 28th, 2008, 07:38 PM
Meh, Obama will be killed, but not by skinheads.

The only reason the government is gunna let Obama win is to have him be "assassinated by terrorists" to help fund a war in Iran or something. Since hes such a popular figure in the public, it could cause a war rally like none we've ever seen.

False Flags.
(http://911conspiracytruth.com/FalseFlagAllowedAttacks.php)


This isn't a new concept Clad.

SnaFuBAR
October 28th, 2008, 08:23 PM
kill obama for social improvement!
why do you post? seriously.

Dwood
October 28th, 2008, 09:01 PM
I might be what you call a "Conservative"

But man it's not right to have be assassinated!

I would never get to go to New York City Ever again!!!

Pyong Kawaguchi
October 28th, 2008, 09:09 PM
But on a serious note, What was the point?
And its not like they where soldiers or anything, they where just random skinheads.
Idiots


@dwood
You would never get to go to new york city ever again?
And ironically your sig says "Let it burn." Which is what the twin towers did.
YOU FUCKING DID IT!

Bodzilla
October 28th, 2008, 09:23 PM
Stupidity just went up a notch in this thread :/

Glad they foiled it, but untill Obama does a JFK speech, he aint no JFK.

Dwood
October 28th, 2008, 09:23 PM
@dwood
You would never get to go to new york city ever again?
And ironically your sig says "Let it burn." Which is what the twin towers did.
YOU FUCKING DID IT!


On another serious note, it's only a matter of time until a trained soldier actually tries to assassinate him.



I see one problem with that theory you have right there!
If I remember correctly, the towers didn't burn to the ground, they were hit with planes. And collapsed!!!!

Pyong Kawaguchi
October 28th, 2008, 09:28 PM
On another serious note, it's only a matter of time until a trained soldier actually tries to assassinate him.



I see one problem with that theory you have right there!
If I remember correctly, the towers didn't burn to the ground, they were hit with planes. And collapsed!!!!


And by then, george bush would have made an attempt, gotten his ass kicked to the sun then buttraped by the devil.


They didnt burn? you sure? :o you'd think a fucking building hit by a flammable plain would burn :s

ICEE
October 28th, 2008, 09:33 PM
Both of you cut it out. Arguing with Dwood has only ever gotten threads locked and reps decreased.

Dwood
October 28th, 2008, 09:53 PM
And by then, george bush would have made an attempt, gotten his kicked to the sun then buttraped by the devil.


They didnt burn? you sure? :o you'd think a building hit by a flammable plain would burn :s

This is given Bush is actually racist. He might be an idiot but i give him acknowledgment for two things: being smart enough to get elected in the first place, (or hire staff that knows how to run a campaign) and second not being smart enough to be a racist.



Well sure they burnt a little but if I did it it would have been moar gas in the planes :P
There wouldn't be any "ground zero" it would have been called "land zero" if I did it.

:lol: ironclad

kenney001
October 28th, 2008, 11:44 PM
I'm proud of Obama to be brave enough to face the real fears of racism and hate. He's kind of like an another Martin Luther King Jr.

You can't be serious? "Real fears of racism..." WHAT A F*CKING JOKE! Nobody worth anything really gives a shit that he's got some black in him from somewhere...the only people that hate him for that are complete morons that probably don't have the IQ to operate a voting booth or ballet.

And courage? this makes me laugh...courage to run for presidency yeah, but not because of his ethnicity.

GOD I hate political correctness and brainwashing like this...racism isn't nearly as common as people make it out to be...

sorry guys...

LinkandKvel
October 29th, 2008, 12:00 AM
You can't be serious? "Real fears of racism..." WHAT A F*CKING JOKE! Nobody worth anything really gives a shit that he's got some black in him from somewhere...the only people that hate him for that are complete morons that probably don't have the IQ to operate a voting booth or ballet.

And courage? this makes me laugh...courage to run for presidency yeah, but not because of his ethnicity.

GOD I hate political correctness and brainwashing like this...racism isn't nearly as common as people make it out to be...

sorry guys...
What? There's still alot of racism where have you been? Just because it's not OUT IN THE OPEN doesn't meant it doesn't exist. Are you blind? You really think he isn't brave BECAUSE of ethnicity. I'm pretty sure this first possible BLACK president will be assassinated before a white pres. Think about it, It has ONLY BEEN 40 years since segregation ended.

ICEE
October 29th, 2008, 12:27 AM
Racism is still very real Kenney. I have some southern *sigh* family who would be very happy to see Obama's head shattered open rather than behind the oval office desk just because he isn't white. There may not be as many radical racists running around as there used to, but all it takes is one with a rifle to put the man down, and him being elected president is VERY likely to stir a few up.

TVTyrant
October 29th, 2008, 12:38 AM
I live in Oregon, which is pretty much a melting pot of lots of kinds of people, and let me tell you racism is still quite rampant among blue-collar workers. The fact that someone came up with a plot doesn't scare me, but it does show how scared some people are of real change. Never again on assassination, I say.

SnaFuBAR
October 29th, 2008, 12:45 AM
hurf-de-fucking-durf

Quit posting, start thinking. You should take up new residence from underneath that rock... or is it a cave you live in?

http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-frogout.gif

Con
October 29th, 2008, 01:27 AM
http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-owned.gif

Rob Oplawar
October 29th, 2008, 02:28 PM
And snaf is the one that gets the warning. Ah, the moderators on this forum, I tell ya. Hoo boy.

On topic: I can't believe that we still have this kind of problem (fanatical racism, that is). I mean, not that I literally don't believe it, but that it's just shocking to me that after all the progress we've made, some people are still, for lack of a better word, stupid.

Snaf, I think you may be right about aliens being here but hiding themselves until the time is right. Fuck it, if there were aliens now, I don't care if they are the most advanced, peace-loving, generous race in the universe bestowing eternal life on us, because some people would still hate them to the point of murder.

ffs. :(

e: oh also,

Bush? the mastermind? oh please. qft. looooool.

rossmum
October 29th, 2008, 04:02 PM
I believe the phrase "took one for the team" would be appropriate here.

Rob, the reason we have have a lot of problems in the world still is simple. Education, or more specifically, lack thereof. Not just school education, but education from parents, the community, and so on. More and more parents are dumping their kids in daycare or what have you and then going to work all day or going out with friends, and as a result the kids end up not picking up the kind of stuff they should at an early age. Of course, there are also the times where the education is the problem... and unfortunately not a lot can be done about that, short of hunting down redneck couples and forcibly sterilising them so they can't feed their kids bullshit (oh please God let this become law).

Sel
October 29th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Most schools and other "places of learning" tend to avoid topics of race, and religion (unless it is focusing on one specific religion ie: christian schools) for fear of offending someone (and subsequently getting bombed) but really look around at what's happened in the past. The regular dumbfuck who goes and blames his bad marks, loss of a job, etc etc, on white people. The school system then decides that they want to avoid bullshit like this (really cant blame them), so they tend to leave the educating of race and religion to the parents. Most of which are either too busy to teach their kids about it, and when they do teach their kids every kid will get a different bit of knowledge from their parents, simply because parents tend to have radically different views on all these things. Some are racist, some are as scared as the school boards to talk about it.

Personally I think it would work best to get a group of people who perfectly balance out anyone elses biasses, to make a strict curriculum concerning the history of slavery, all the way to current events.

But hey what are the chances of that happening :awesome:

Rob Oplawar
October 29th, 2008, 04:35 PM
I couldn't agree more, ross.

Pyong Kawaguchi
October 29th, 2008, 05:19 PM
I could.

LinkandKvel
October 29th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Most schools and other "places of learning" tend to avoid topics of race, and religion (unless it is focusing on one specific religion ie: christian schools) for fear of offending someone (and subsequently getting bombed) but really look around at what's happened in the past. The regular dumbfuck who goes and blames his bad marks, loss of a job, etc etc, on white people.
Where is this thought that most black people scream racist at their own faults to white men come from? People don't do that, at least not anymore. I see alot of people on these forums claim we call people "crackers" but go ballistic when they call us "niggers". We don't call white people "crackers" out of the blue unless they themselves are racist to whites. Usually these assumptions aren't valid anymore.

BTW not aimed at this post. Just clearing some thoughts.

Mass
October 29th, 2008, 07:40 PM
Hate is legal in the US, just not hate-crimes.
:smith:

Also, I would hope it's a given that the source of hatred is ignorance. There is nothing to fear in something you know well. There is also the fetishism of near-differences, but that's almost always rooted in greed, not hated.

Also, this is what I have to say to you deniers of racism (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?p=281581#post281581).

Rob Oplawar
October 29th, 2008, 07:49 PM
Hate is legal in the US, just not hate-crimes.
:smith:

Mass, what the fuck is wrong with you, of course hate is legal. This country is founded on the concept that people are allowed to hate, love, think, say whatever they want, so long as they don't act on it. Hence, legal hate but not legal hate-crime. I mean, duh.

Roostervier
October 29th, 2008, 07:53 PM
You can't be serious? "Real fears of racism..." WHAT A F*CKING JOKE! Nobody worth anything really gives a shit that he's got some black in him from somewhere...the only people that hate him for that are complete morons that probably don't have the IQ to operate a voting booth or ballet.

And courage? this makes me laugh...courage to run for presidency yeah, but not because of his ethnicity.

GOD I hate political correctness and brainwashing like this...racism isn't nearly as common as people make it out to be...

sorry guys...Wrong, sorry. The experiences we went through when my dad taught and coached at Fort Wayne Community High School is plenty enough to prove you wrong. There was even an incident where two of my dad's (black) football players were arrested for really no other reason than being black in a white neighborhood.

In some places it's better, but it's really not as uncommon as you think.

Mass
October 29th, 2008, 08:02 PM
Mass, what the fuck is wrong with you, of course hate is legal. This country is founded on the concept that people are allowed to hate, love, think, say whatever they want, so long as they don't act on it. Hence, legal hate but not legal hate-crime. I mean, duh.
Actually, considering I've never heard a skinhead something in public that wasn't "fighting words" it's debatable whether their speech rights are really protected or ought to be.

I really don't think the NSM has a right to protest, let alone exist.

Not to mention this country is supposed to give
“To Bigotry No Sanction,
to Persecution No Assistance”

I'm pretty sure Mr. Washington knew something about what this country was founded on, Rob.

CN3089
October 29th, 2008, 08:14 PM
Actually, considering I've never heard a skinhead something in public that wasn't "fighting words" it's debatable whether their speech rights are really protected or ought to be.

are you serious


is he serious http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-psyduck.gif

Mass
October 29th, 2008, 08:19 PM
are you serious


is he serious http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-psyduck.gif
yes

CN3089
October 29th, 2008, 08:24 PM
yes

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-911.gif


e: should be mentioned that in Canada hate speech actually isn't protected, heh

Mass
October 29th, 2008, 11:11 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-911.gif


e: should be mentioned that in Canada hate speech actually isn't protected, heh
Yeah, plus there are the exceptions to freedom of speech:

Defamation- Jews constantly steal your money.
Causing panic- Jews are going to destroy you if you don't rise above them.
Fighting words- We need to kill the Jewish race.
Incitement to crime- Stomp their heads in.
Sedition- Establish a fascist state.
Obscenity- kykes.

Now, these are all establishments of the court system none of them are rock solid law, but it wasn't until the 80's or so that the NSM was actually allowed to hold events after winning their court case. My point being that you can't take for granted these people's right to do this.

Oh, and I make no claim of objectivity in my regards for Nazis, really.

p0lar_bear
October 31st, 2008, 01:13 AM
There's still a difference between "giving a speech" and "inciting a riot." You'll get pulled down if you're doing more than just talking.

Anyway, gotta love these moronic extremists. Thick as bricks, not even a beating would get through to them.