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Hunter
December 5th, 2008, 04:53 PM
Not one of my best.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_3.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_4.jpg
There's errors that need fixing still. A bigger at back and in middle. And some smoothing needs fixing.
Triangles: 2366

Heathen
December 5th, 2008, 05:31 PM
like it

Inferno
December 5th, 2008, 05:31 PM
I think the carbines... umm battery thingy is too small. It looks kinda tiny compared to the rest of the gun. Only thing I have to nitpick about. Looks good.

Hunter
December 5th, 2008, 05:33 PM
You have a point, thanks. :)

Masterz1337
December 5th, 2008, 05:39 PM
Looking good. It can be alot better though.

Gwunty
December 5th, 2008, 05:44 PM
triangulation:(

Bad Waffle
December 5th, 2008, 05:45 PM
I'm going to have to stereotypically disagree with masters on this one, i actually think this is one of your best. The only problem--right in the very back, the 'butt' of the carbine, those straight-edge polygons should have a bit more curvature instead of being 90 deg angles.

onotix
December 5th, 2008, 05:48 PM
I'm going to have to stereotypically disagree with masters on this one, i actually think this is one of your best. The only problem--right in the very back, the 'butt' of the carbine, those straight-edge polygons should have a bit more curvature instead of being 90 deg angles.
i agree with this statement.

Heathen
December 5th, 2008, 05:50 PM
that whole area looks ugly to me.

teh lag
December 5th, 2008, 05:54 PM
triangulation:(

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http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/4757/carbine4rw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The edge turn tool : USE IT!

The back is all kinds of screwed up. Smoothing... I won't even try to point out all the messups. Don't just use auto-smooth; actually plan things out.

Hunter
December 5th, 2008, 05:58 PM
I didnt use auto smooth. Lol. I will fix, thanks.

Masterz1337
December 5th, 2008, 06:04 PM
I'm going to have to stereotypically disagree with masters on this one, i actually think this is one of your best. The only problem--right in the very back, the 'butt' of the carbine, those straight-edge polygons should have a bit more curvature instead of being 90 deg angles.
And I stereotypically am not going to disagree with someone because they said it :).

Hunter, can we get a FP persepctive shot of the gun? From the 3p shots it looks like the FP view will be boring, and that's the most important part of a model in my opinion.

Hunter
December 5th, 2008, 06:19 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_5.jpg

FP shot:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_fp.jpg

Edit: oops, forgot to smooth end of it. Will fix XD

Pooky
December 5th, 2008, 06:24 PM
I think good texture work and normals could really make that shine

Masterz1337
December 5th, 2008, 06:38 PM
I would suggest making sure some of your edges arn't so harsh. It's going to detract from how sleep the gun looks and will divert attnetion durring animations. Also, the clip seems to large, and it's interescting the gemetry around it. The casing around the clip also needs to be alot sleeker and smooth. We made the mistake of not doing that with the CMT carbine and it irks me all the time. Also as you said, the barrel needs smoothing.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9469/haloce12008111319012345dw1.jpg
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5275/haloce12008111323063476cy5.jpg

Feel free to draw any inspiration or ideas from ours. It should give you a better idea of what I meant for some of the crit I had for your model.

Pooky
December 5th, 2008, 06:42 PM
I actually kind of like the harsh edges on this one, just make it silver and call it a Brute Carbine :p

Though in some cases is does definitely need to be smoothed out

Hunter
December 5th, 2008, 06:44 PM
Thanks Masterz, im of to bed now, I will fix when I come back on PC and post new pictures. It was pretty rushed, took roughly 6 hours. And you can't really make something look good when rushing Lol. And that is nice Carbine in SPv2 :P

Heathen
December 5th, 2008, 07:33 PM
Masterz plugging his thing.

Roostervier
December 5th, 2008, 07:35 PM
And I stereotypically am not going to disagree with someone because they said it :).Little do you know that he only disagreed because he truly disagreed.

Also, aside from the already mentioned errors (especially the curvature and smoothing), nice model. Now that you're taking crit nicely, you're starting to make some pretty good stuff.

Hunter
December 6th, 2008, 12:30 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_6.jpg


I copied the back bit on the one that Dane textured btw :) Because it looks cool.
Better?

FRain
December 6th, 2008, 12:35 PM
I actually kind of like the harsh edges on this one, just make it silver and call it a Brute Carbine :p

Though in some cases is does definitely need to be smoothed out

And you forgot to add a big fucking spike on it. :cool:

teh lag
December 6th, 2008, 12:52 PM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8748/carbine4hu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Better, but still not great.

Hunter
December 6th, 2008, 12:56 PM
Will fix, cheers. teh lag.

Masterz1337
December 6th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Also, make the lower part of the rim around the clip smoother at the bottom, and I think along with lags suggestions this will turn out really good.

Hunter
December 6th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Where about do you mean Masterz?

And any better now? It looks like there are more errors down the bottom but I think that's the Omni shadow.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_fp_2.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_7.jpg

Inferno
December 6th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Looking good hunter. This with a skin would be really nice.

Hunter
December 6th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Crap, 7070 Triangles XD

It has shot up for some reason. Lol And thanks wanksta

Roostervier
December 6th, 2008, 03:56 PM
Definitely should not be 7k tri's. Should be about half that for what you've got.

Hunter
December 6th, 2008, 04:02 PM
True. I will have a look at what can go, I have an idea why its that high.

teh lag
December 6th, 2008, 04:27 PM
If it's from the omi, take shadowing off. I want to be able to see it normally.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8893/carbine4qz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/carbine4qz4.jpg/1/w1000.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img181/carbine4qz4.jpg/1/)

-Make the lower grip a bit thicker
-Make the inside of the grab-hole-things their own smoothgroup. ~90 degree angles that are smooth just look strange.
-Please, please, PLEASE use edge-turn to fix some of your quads.

Hunter
December 6th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Mintage, Will fix tomorrow, going bed in a min. Just rendering a 2000 x *Something* image of all my weapons Lol.

Roostervier
December 6th, 2008, 04:51 PM
If you locked your ratio at 1.333 in max, then it's 2000x1500 iirc.

Hunter
December 6th, 2008, 04:56 PM
It isnt exactly 2000, just roughly, 2****.

Anyway, I will fix tomorow, nighty night.

Corndogman
December 6th, 2008, 04:59 PM
Where about do you mean Masterz?
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_7.jpg

I see something in the back right underneath the hole closest to the back. Looks like bad triangulation maybe, or could just be the render, check it out.

Disaster
December 6th, 2008, 05:12 PM
Damn looks pretty good. Theres a few things like lag said. If you don't mind me asking, could have an attempt at texturing this when its done?

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/carbine2.png
Carbine I did for h3mt. Not my model and its hdoan's normal maps.

Masterz1337
December 6th, 2008, 05:20 PM
Hit me up on AIM tommarow.

NuggetWarmer
December 6th, 2008, 07:03 PM
Disaster, this is for H3MT. :|

Advancebo
December 6th, 2008, 08:38 PM
Disaster, this is for H3MT. :|

ahem


[16:48] =Ω=[»ШМ«][mmt]Advancebo: so that means pretty much anything u model halo related belongs to h3mt?
[16:48] =Ω=[»ШМ«][mmt]Advancebo: halo 3 related
[16:48] [H3MT]{TLS}Hunter: No, What ever models I say they can use belong to them.
[16:48] [H3MT]{TLS}Hunter: :)
[16:49] [H3MT]{TLS}Hunter: I aint having that crap by what ever I make belongs to them

Disaster
December 6th, 2008, 10:03 PM
Then I guess either me or Doan is going to texture it. Doan makes caveman skins though D: so I guess its my job :)

Invader Veex
December 6th, 2008, 10:29 PM
Then I guess either me or Doan is going to texture it. Doan makes caveman skins though D: so I guess its my job :)

What about me? >:|

NuggetWarmer
December 6th, 2008, 10:37 PM
Advancebo, Hunter is on the team, so why wouldn't this be for H3MT.

No, that isn't a question.

onotix
December 6th, 2008, 10:38 PM
What about me? >:|
what about you?

Invader Veex
December 6th, 2008, 10:46 PM
I am a skinner in h3mt.

Advancebo
December 6th, 2008, 10:48 PM
Forza Win

Heathen
December 6th, 2008, 10:49 PM
I suggest deleting that post before you get hit by the shit that hit the fan.
People dont like being compared like that.

Especially when you say it that way... :/

Just sayin.

Masterz1337
December 6th, 2008, 11:32 PM
I'll trade Dano to H3Mt for 6,000 dollars.

Inferno
December 6th, 2008, 11:44 PM
I lul'ld so hard I wish I could rep you.

Heathen
December 6th, 2008, 11:49 PM
nice parody.

I hate professional sports.

onotix
December 6th, 2008, 11:52 PM
I'll trade Dano to H3Mt for 6,000 dollars.
ill give you 20 thousad dollars just to use him for 3 minuets.

NuggetWarmer
December 6th, 2008, 11:56 PM
But you don't have 20,000 dollars. :)

onotix
December 6th, 2008, 11:57 PM
dont tell him yet.

Heathen
December 7th, 2008, 12:00 AM
Then your stupid.

You do know that 20000 > 6000 and that 3 minutes < forever?

Besides....Masterz would take it and run. He has clones of Dano with c4 cores for such occasions.

Inferno
December 7th, 2008, 12:08 AM
Shhhh! Your not supposed to talk about the :conspiracy:

onotix
December 7th, 2008, 12:16 AM
the conspiracy is a lie :O

Masterz1337
December 7th, 2008, 12:24 AM
Don't spam it guys, even though It's my fault for starting it in the first place.

Invader Veex
December 7th, 2008, 01:08 AM
I'll trade Dano to H3Mt for 6,000 dollars.

Honestly, in my opinion ( not the whole team's), no thanks.

Heathen
December 7th, 2008, 01:18 AM
Don't spam it guys, even though It's my fault for starting it in the first place.

respectable post is respectable

I like this carbine. I however have no eye for models and cant tell if something is good or not at this stage. Looks excellent to me :/

Matooba
December 7th, 2008, 08:43 AM
respectable post is respectable

I like this carbine. I however have no eye for models and cant tell if something is good or not at this stage. Looks excellent to me :/


Agreed, this is turning into a great model. Seen a few anomaly's but keep going at it. When you've gotten to the end product then we can go over some fixes.

Hunter
December 7th, 2008, 09:28 AM
Thanks, and as for the H3MT topic.

I have stated many times before that I am going to model a full Halo 3 weapon set. The models I make are for me. But H3MT can use it because I am in their team. And disaster, doan and IV could try and texture it if they want to.

I would prefer Dano though :P But that's not going to happen.

Hunter
December 7th, 2008, 11:12 AM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Carbine_9.jpg

Better?

Triangles: 2358

It wasnt 7K last time, I don't know where that come from Lol.

Heathen
December 7th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Looks great to me :D

KiLLa
December 7th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Still recreating the same weapons eh?
I see not much has changed really on the halo scene, still makin shit from the next title, ina previous title..haha
anywho, the model looks good...but I suggest working on your smoothing groups a bit, other than that, good job

Disaster
December 7th, 2008, 12:23 PM
I am a skinner in h3mt.
How could I have forgotten veex? Sawy :p

Hunter that model looks Ace mate :awesome:

Roostervier
December 7th, 2008, 12:42 PM
2k tri's sounds much better. Now just fix all your smoothing. d:

Hunter
December 7th, 2008, 01:58 PM
ARRR. File corrupt...





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Good thing I save a backup every so often because this has happened before on the Halo 3 Elephant :P

mech
December 7th, 2008, 03:07 PM
Still recreating the same weapons eh?
I see not much has changed really on the halo scene, still makin shit from the next title, ina previous title..haha
anywho, the model looks good...but I suggest working on your smoothing groups a bit, other than that, good job

Long time no see KiLLa, what's up?

FRain
December 7th, 2008, 05:25 PM
Still recreating the same weapons eh?
I see not much has changed really on the halo scene, still makin shit from the next title, ina previous title..haha
anywho, the model looks good...but I suggest working on your smoothing groups a bit, other than that, good job

o sup KiLLa.

jngrow
December 7th, 2008, 08:49 PM
Haha, how the hell was that 7k polys? Looks good dude, I'm not pro enough to tell you what's wrong with it, but keep up the good work.

nick3d
December 8th, 2008, 09:31 AM
I agree with the smoothing groups. You need to concentrate a little bit more on which faces/lines you are smoothing, and there are still some smoothing errors which i can see now that i am looking at it on the comp, theres a dodgy triangle which has made a smoothing error, but other than that good model

Hunter
December 8th, 2008, 09:52 AM
Circle it Nick. Like I told you earlier, the smoothing groups are set right now so that it makes the right shape.

nick3d
December 8th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Cant be arsed to be honest lol, ill show you in col on your phone if you want, aint anything to worry about its probs just me being picky lol