Kid kills mother over Halo 3

[Hotrod]

ELYRIA — Daniel Petric shot his parents -- killing his mother -- because they wouldn't allow him to play the violent video game Halo 3, prosecutors told a judge at the boy's murder trial Monday.
The trial, on charges of murder and attempted murder, opened Monday for Petric, 17, of Brighton Township. He is being tried without a jury before Lorain County Common Pleas Judge James Burge.


Rest of story here (http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/boy_killed_mom_and_shot_dad_ov.html)


Ok, what has gotten into people these days? I mean, he killed his mom, wounded his dad, because he disobeyed them? Sure, the parents shouldn't have taken the game away like that, but the kid, well, he went way too far.


Comment.

[Ifafudafi]

SO IF I'M READING RIGHT THAT MEANS VIOLENT GAMES MAKE KIDS KILLERS LOLOL

Yeah, the dad was being too harsh in keeping the game away (Halo sexually explicit? You can't even see Cortana's nipples) but that doesn't make the kid any less of a faggot.

Bleh, let's see how long before some bigshot makes the link.

[dark57]

ummmmmmmm...........W.T.F?
How does a kid become that obssesed and...controled by a game that he has to kill someone because of it. It's acctualy kinda scary because that reminds me of my brother. Luckily he doesnt know were my dads gun is :D

E: OShI the kids 17 wtf? thats just sad....

[Hotrod]

(Halo sexually explicit? You can't even see Cortana's nipples)
Well, there is T-Bagging...

I was actually thinking the same thing as you though, Halo is in no way sexually explicit.

[rossmum]

More propaganda for the fucking violence police, wonderful.

What I would like to know is why the fuck the key to the gun's box was kept where he could get to it, and what the fucking kind of godawful parenting would allow a kid to shoot his parents?

[Pooky]

More propaganda for the fucking violence police, wonderful.

What I would like to know is why the fuck the key to the gun's box was kept where he could get to it, and what the fucking kind of godawful parenting would allow a kid to shoot his parents?

You can't blame this completely on parenting... it sounds like this kid was fucked up with or without Halo.

[Mass]

I hope to god no one blames this on the game.

The guy was home-bound for a year and he wasn't even allowed to play a video game he liked. That could drive someone fucking crazy.

Interestingly enough, I researched his father's church and they don't seem to be too nutty, in case you're speculating.

[FinishTheFight]

This is just messed up and I believe the father wasn't being harsh at all he had every right to take it up and the kid should have listend. The kid said he is sorry, I might of believed him, but he tried to cover it up and make it look like the father did it and wouldn't let his sister in the house, as well as what he said before he shot his parents.

If this had happened to me I would have knocked some sense into him and then let him sit in jail for awhile. I would have waited for him to tell me exactly what he was thinking when it happened and make sure he was a changed person before I accepted him back as my son.

If I thought of harming someone without defending myself or saving someone I would knock some sense into myself.

Edit:

The guy was home-bound for a year and he wasn't even allowed to play a video game he liked. That could drive someone fucking crazy.

I disagree, I am sure there would be something to do around the house or room. If not then I would just sit there and think about nothing, read, or clean. SOMETHING!

[dark57]

i hope they dont give him the death penalty and make him rot in jail for the rest of his life.

[SnaFuBAR]

they're not seeking the death penalty.

[dark57]

i know and i hope they stick to that

[ultama121]

Hey guyz, I read on the news today that there are these things called vidja games that make people hurt people. We should totally ban them. >: (

Although this is very unfortunate and horrible... this is definitely going to become a scapegoat. :fail:

[PlasbianX]

Only in ohio. Lol. Love my state :P

[Phopojijo]

i hope they dont give him the death penalty and make him rot in jail for the rest of his life.I hope they send him to an institution, because let's face it... something's wrong.

Telling his father to close his eyes for a surprise and then popping him in the head.

[Heathen]

Dude, they took his fucking game.
Hell yes he shoulda shot them.



No, but still, I can hear the claims. The blaming violent games is just a scapegoat.

Damnit Ultama...stole ma word.

And phopojijo, is that really how he did it?

[=sw=warlord]

The blaming violent games is just a scapegoat.

First violent game i ever played was duke nukem 3D for ps1 and you dont see me going about whacking people.
i would say duke nukem is alot more violent than halo, possibly on par with doom 3.

[dark57]

And phopojijo, is that really how he did it?
yup prrety much....

[Jean-Luc]

First violent game i ever played was duke nukem 3D for ps1 and you dont see me going about whacking people.
i would say duke nukem is alot more violent than halo, possibly on par with doom 3.

Doom 3 isn't really that violent imo

You want violence, you go get GoW2 and play the worm level :D

[cheezdue]

Tragic event, there was no need for him to go that crazy just because they took the game away from him.


because they wouldn't allow him to play the violent video game Halo 3

Also, I'm getting sick of the Halo series being overrated as to it being a "violent" game.

[Pooky]

Tragic event, there was no need for him to go that crazy just because they took the game away from him.



Also, I'm getting sick of the Halo series being overrated as to it being a "violent" game.

Funny thing, the blood is actually really toned down compared to Halo 1 :|

[Timo]

It is a violent video game, that's why it's R18. Just because it's not realistic, doesn't mean that running around killing people isn't violent :|

I can't begin to even think what was going through this kid's mind at the time. I have a surprise for you, what the hell?

[FRain]

In before Only in America statement. This shit has happened elsewhere.

[=sw=warlord]

Doom 3 isn't really that violent imo

You want violence, you go get GoW2 and play the worm level :DWhen you're arround 10 years old quite a lot is violent[ ah 1998...], but these days they censor cartoons for smoking refferences yet allow pornography in music videos.[everyone has got to have seen cristina aguleras dirty music vid >_>]
Anyways, this kid might end up being the first brain to be investigated with that new tech involving mri that was posted about last week.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Meh first "violent" game I ever played was Wolfenstein 3D, and I don't kill nobody, but I do lightly smack my friends on the back of the head when they do something stupid though :p hehe lol

[flibitijibibo]

"There is no profile of a school shooter. They come from all walks of life, all religions; they listen to different music, have different crowds; they are just random individuals who cannot be determined to be killers until they actually kill."

"WE BETTER CENSOR MOVIES, TV, MUSIC, BOOKS, VIDEOGAMES AND THE INTERNET THEN"

"K"

[Pooky]

It is a violent video game, that's why it's R18. Just because it's not realistic, doesn't mean that running around killing people isn't violent :|

I can't begin to even think what was going through this kid's mind at the time. I have a surprise for you, what the hell?

I didn't say it wasn't violent, I said it was less gory than Halo 1.

[dark57]

wasnt halo 1 suppost to be rated T?

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Personally, I think that Halo 3 would make towards more of a T rated game if Cortana wasn't as relatively revealing as she is in halo 3, compared to halo 2, and if Johnson didn't smoke.

[=sw=warlord]

I didn't say it wasn't violent, I said it was less gory than Halo 1.
Yes, aliens blowing into little peices and flying past you, very non gory.

[thehoodedsmack]

wasnt halo 1 suppost to be rated T?

I've seen it rated T here in Canada. :\ This is pretty sad. And it sounds like less to do with Halo than a history of unnoticed psychological problems. I'd confidently assume that one doesn't usually kill because they're frustrated with their parents unless something's seriously wrong with them. <:U

[Limited]

The problem is, its bound to happen, and its probably going to happen again. Some random nutjob will go too far and some one will sadly end up dead. I'm waiting for Jack Thompson to crawl out the woodwork asap to start bitching on Halo 3.

As for the way he did it, thats pretty fucked up. Telling them to close their eyes, tricking them.

[SnaFuBAR]

I'm waiting for Jack Thompson to crawl out the woodwork asap to start bitching on Halo 3.
He can't, he's barred for life.

[LinkandKvel]

I NEVER even NOTICE blood in Halo 3.

[Timo]

I didn't say it wasn't violent, I said it was less gory than Halo 1.

Talking to the post above yours, you posted while I was posting ;)

[DarkHalo003]

This is just sad and scary. I don't even understand the logic in this. People are just dark, but something is wrong with this. I can't even begin to understand this. WTF is wrong with people?

In my opinion, if a parent lets a little kid play an M game, they have terrible judgment on what to let their kids play. They have a warning by store sellers of what to expect from the game, yet they completely ignore this. I still don't know what goes through a parent's mind when this happens.

Halo1 was technically a Teen game till the politicians stirred up because of an event and it turned most Teen games into M games at the time. I still have some magazines and books that have advertisements saying Halo1 is a teen game.

[LinkandKvel]

In my opinion, if a parent lets a little kid play an M game, they have terrible judgment on what to let their kids play. They have a warning by store sellers of what to expect from the game, yet they completely ignore this. I still don't know what goes through a parent's mind when this happens. No they don't. It just mean the parent trust their kids if they know about the rating. I've been playing GTA since I was like between the ages 10-12. So just because My parents buy me an M-rated game doesn't mean they're irresponsible.

[Heathen]

I just think this should all be blamed on the parents.

If you didnt wanna get killed, dont buy the evil satan game.

Or dont take it.

[Needles]

This is just sad and scary. I don't even understand the logic in this. People are just dark, but something is wrong with this. I can't even begin to understand this. WTF is wrong with people?

In my opinion, if a parent lets a little kid play an M game, they have terrible judgment on what to let their kids play. They have a warning by store sellers of what to expect from the game, yet they completely ignore this. I still don't know what goes through a parent's mind when this happens.
I started playing halo 1 in late 2004 (I was either 8 or 9 at the time (I think), I turn 13 next year, so do the math and find it). I turned out fine. Some parents think that their kid can handle the game, and I know I can.

I don't really think he (the son) learned his voilence from the game, but turned violent over his obsession for it. I don't really like my parents or family too much (they don't like me too well either), but I would never do something that horrible. I'm surprised his family forgave him!

[DarkHalo003]

No they don't. It just mean the parent trust their kids if they know about the rating. I've been playing GTA since I was like between the ages 10-12. So just because My parents buy me an M-rated game doesn't mean they're irresponsible.
Well, I've had more people talk to me about this stuff before, so I have a different opinion on this than most others. If you're 15, then you've developed a conscience enough to know that it's just a video game. But if you're a little kid who thinks otherwise, the kid could have nightmares and worse. I just don't know why the kid would go as far as is; something definitely didn't click in his head. At that I age, I was also secluded from those games, which can also explain why I have such a different opinion as well. I guess it depends on the person and how they've grown up. But we all agree that this was still extreme. It still puzzles me.

[StankBacon]

I turned out fine.


you have a long way to go before you can make a statement like that.

there is plenty of time for you to go on a murderous rampage. :p

[DarkHalo003]

Well, reading the story completely, it really could have been a nerve disorder. He had an accident that left him nearly paralyzed and damaged his spine, so something wrong could have triggered. Either way, reading how old this kid was, I was a bit more shocked. It's a form of entertainment, not a lifestyle. After your father tells you he doesn't want you to have the game, you put the controller down and get with your friends somewhere else.

[kid908]

I find those rating just "sugestions." imo gow2, dead space, etc. are more violent than any of the halo series and gta series. you really don't see much blood and the bodies don't even disasembles like in gow2 and deadspace. Watching a 5second(i believe) animation of a guy cutting someone in half opposed to a shiny sword slashing is way more violent, IMO.

also wasn't there something about a skool shooting of a kid because of a game? don't remember it well but i think it was a kid that brought a sniper rifle to skool and acted like it was a video game and started shooting staff members and students.

[FluffyDucky™]

Holy shit, I don't even know what to say... And if they had such a great relationship who goes and just wrecks it like that? And the Dad still loves him, get fucked.

[Donut]

my first somewhat violent game was zelda OOT on the n64 when i was like.... 5 or 6 years old i think. it got me interested in sword play, but i have yet to lop off the balls of some unfortunate victim. the kid must have some problems.
...some being a gross understatement

[kid908]

good by rating system for age. hello pych exam for game purchase.

see this paper! it say im pychologically stable enough to see all the killing done in this video game.

[Mr Buckshot]

This is why you don't buy a gun and keep it in a place where a kid can get to it. You can instruct your kid about the dangers of a gun, but if he's messed up in the brain it won't work. Can't wait for Jack Thompson to harp on this.

That kid was really sick in the mind, the way he tricked his parents and all. It was silly that the dad thinks Halo was too "violent/sexually explicit" but if my parents thought that way I'd just obey them, and if I wanted to play that much I'd do so at a friend's house.

[rossmum]

In my opinion, if a parent lets a little kid play an M game, they have terrible judgment on what to let their kids play. They have a warning by store sellers of what to expect from the game, yet they completely ignore this. I still don't know what goes through a parent's mind when this happens.
It's exactly the kind of sheltering mindset you just displayed there that leads to all sorts of bad behaviour from kids as they grow up, congratulations.

When I was about 6, my parents took me to nearly every war cemetery in northern France and Belgium. That's how I learned that violence is bad. I was allowed to watch M movies and play M games when I was about 10, and contrary to your expert opinion, I'm certainly not a murderer. I won't even punch someone unless they've already hit me several times. Guess your opinion is wrong, then.

If a kid is truly messed up and it shows, or they just can't seem to grasp that games aren't something you want to emulate in real life, then the parents should hold back on buying said games, or at least play with them. If they understand what's what, then ratings become utterly irrelevant. Ratings are merely a suggestion, age has absolutely nothing to do with maturity and nothing to do with how someone will handle violence in a game.

[L0d3x]

In my non expert opinion, this had nothing to do with the violence of halo3. I think if the game in question would have been barbie's dreamhouse, he still would have acted the same.

[rossmum]

Precisely.

He wanted to obtain the game, he hadn't been playing it.

[DaneO'Roo]

http://www.cynicalnation.com/img/fuck_yeah.jpg


Sorry, but I had to.


The kid shooting his parents has little to do with video games and more to do with the fact that he has a father that thinks cortana is sexually explicit. Trace that back far enough and you'll find that same father and mother also don't allow him to watch cartoons, eat ice cream or be a fucking kid.

MY guess is in this kids messed up little life, his video game was his only escape from his fucked up censored life, so when that second world that he has become so immersed in gets taken away, reality check snaps on him and he realizes hes stuck in a rut.

He finds a way out, he takes it. He's too young to be trialed on such grounds, so he'll get shipped off to some other family somewhere else, one who will let him be himself.


Really, show me the kid before hand I could have told you I saw it coming.

[Hotrod]

Well, it could either be that, or a mental condition, or a bit of both. If it's not a mental condition, then it's not necessarily the parent's fault, the kid could have been influenced by something else.

And I agree with FluffyDucky, if he really did love his mom that much, then why shoot her?

[FRain]

This is why you need combination locks as well as a key lock for weapons. Before he died, my father had a backup 9mm pistol, in case anything happened. There was always a little case that was somewhat heavy in my closet. I always wondered what it was. There was a 6-digit combination lock and key lock as well. My dad showed me it once and I knew what it was, but I never saw him enter the lock, so I couldn't open it. Also, I was 6.

[blind]

Who would kill over such a terrible game :rolleyes:

[Evil_Monkey]

Halo 3 isn't that violent. Look at Gears of War and GTA, they're somewhat violent.

[=sw=warlord]

Halo 3 isn't that violent. Look at Gears of War and GTA, they're somewhat violent.
They should have cortana pole dance on one of the ships decks.
That would make things more interesting...

[Gamerkd16]

They should have cortana pole dance on one of the ships decks.
That would make things more interesting...
You're one of those kids who looks for Rule 34 on video game characters aren't you? :raise: :rolleyes:

[=sw=warlord]

You're one of those kids who looks for Rule 34 on video game characters aren't you? :raise: :rolleyes:
Rule 34?
Nah rule 69 with miranda amd cortana :downs:

[Gamerkd16]

Rule 34?
Nah rule 69 with miranda amd cortana :downs:
Ugh...creepy. She's [cortana] not even real.

(If I wanted to be picky: there is no rule 69.)

[jngrow]

The game clearly did not influence him at all, he hadn't even played it yet. He's just a fucked up kid who didn't get something he wanted, went berserk. And the dad seems like he's the member of some weird ass church, and also doesn't understand what sex is.

[Phopojijo]

Uhm:

1) He played it, the father took it away... and locked it up with his gun which totally doesn't seem like a bad idea...

2) Dude was 17.

3) The church apparently seems somewhat normal...

4) You're right about Halo 3 though... if it influenced him he'd be throwing grenades first.

[jngrow]

It said as soon as he arrived home the parents caught him with the game and took it from him.

[=sw=warlord]

The game clearly did not influence him at all, he hadn't even played it yet. He's just a fucked up kid who didn't get something he wanted, went berserk. And the dad seems like he's the member of some weird ass church, and also doesn't understand what sex is.
He knows what sex is, he just has never heard of durex:cop:

[DrunkenSamus]

FAIL PARENTS

[dark57]

maybe he sould have started off with halo 1. cortanas ugly in that game.

[Apoc4lypse]

imo the fathers a hypocrite, and the son has emotional issues, the hypocracy of his father owning a gun but also "forbading" violence was just the last thing that made him snap, on top of being stuck in the house because of the injury.

I have a feeling the kid had anger issues too and probably had some reason or need to see a therapist.

[Disaster]

Uhm:

1) He played it, the father took it away... and locked it up with his gun which totally doesn't seem like a bad idea...

2) Dude was 17.

3) The church apparently seems somewhat normal...

4) You're right about Halo 3 though... if it influenced him he'd be throwing grenades first.
:neckbeard:I've been lol'ing for like 10 minutes i dono why though.

[Bodzilla]

Sure, the parents shouldn't have taken the game away like that,

i stopped reading right there an facepalmed.

[Mr Buckshot]

[quote=FlamingRain;337187]This is why you need combination locks as well as a key lock for weapons.quote]

Just what I thought! If the father had locked up his gun more securely, this shit might not have happened. Better yet, don't even buy a gun at all. It's ironic how the father said a video game was "too violent" when he owns a true symbol of real violence.

Yeah, I realized that the kid didn't even get a chance to play the game yet, so no one can blame Halo 3 on the murder.

What the kid needed was mental help and proper counselling. While the father wasn't wrong to take away the game like that, the father should've also sat down with his son and told him nicely and clearly about why the father disapproves of the game. The kid had an abnormal life - he wouldn't have known right from wrong and stuff like that.

[Hotrod]

True, I didn't consider things that way...

[n00b1n8R]

i stopped reading right there an facepalmed.
Same.

[Dwood]

You know, I found it funny because all of you were like "Don't let whatshisfacethelawyer hear about this"

I would be harping on games if the father took it away from him like 3 weeks after he brought it home and the kid was addicted to it. Also, the game would have to be like deadspace or GoW. THEN I would harp on the games.

Now, I think that there was something happening previously, before the kid brought it home and the dad locked it away that we aren't told about. Granted, it's a lot easier emotionally to kill a person with a gun than with a knife.

Four problems made this scenario, imho:

Emotionally unstable kid
Overprotective Parent
Addicting Game
Gun left where kid can get to it.

In this scenario I would point it to those things. The game was simply what lit the fuse.

[Hotrod]

Same.
Look, you can't say that you've never bought something when your parents told you not to. I, personally, bought my 360 with my brother, when my parents didn't want us to. What happened? We got to enjoy it, and my dad's even played Halo 3 with us a few times. If they would have done the same as those parents, none of that would have happened, and we would have been a little ticked off. Let's say that the parents never took away the game. Would any of this happened? No.

[Phopojijo]

Look, you can't say that you've never bought something when your parents told you not to. I, personally, bought my 360 with my brother, when my parents didn't want us to. What happened? We got to enjoy it, and my dad's even played Halo 3 with us a few times. If they would have done the same as those parents, none of that would have happened, and we would have been a little ticked off. Let's say that the parents never took away the game. Would any of this happened? No.Uhm... and if they took your 360 away, would you shoot them? o.O

Though in hindsight I agree it was kinda a bad omen to lock it up with your gun.

[n00b1n8R]

Look, you can't say that you've never bought something when your parents told you not to.
Actually, I haven't. >_>

[Hotrod]

Uhm... and if they took your 360 away, would you shoot them? o.O
Hell no, I'd understand the situation, and just keep on living normally. The point that I was trying to make is that, even though sometimes an action may seem wrong, it can lead to not-so-wrong conclusions.


Actually, I haven't. >_>
Well, have you ever disobeyed in any way, and not have regretted it?

[Kalub]

Fucking absurd....

[killer9856]

All of this over a videogame? What the hell.....

[n00b1n8R]

Well, have you ever disobeyed in any way, and not have regretted it?
Yes and?

That still doesn't take away the rights of the parents to parent their children as they see fit within the law.

[Bodzilla]

Look, you can't say that you've never bought something when your parents told you not to. I, personally, bought my 360 with my brother, when my parents didn't want us to. What happened? We got to enjoy it, and my dad's even played Halo 3 with us a few times. If they would have done the same as those parents, none of that would have happened, and we would have been a little ticked off. Let's say that the parents never took away the game. Would any of this happened? No.
thats a terrible example.

somebody needs the belt treatment.
What the parentals say goes brosef. If they arnt happy about something they should talk to you first, and if there still not happy then they should take it away.
Parents have a right to raise their children that way.

Hell it happened to me countless times, Duke nukem, doom 1 and 2....
Certain restrictions make all the difference to kids when they grow up, cause the kids that dont have any...... well.... 99% of the time there just a bunch of hooting dickholes.

[n00b1n8R]

hooting self entitled dickholes.
ftfy

[Hotrod]

Yes and?

That still doesn't take away the rights of the parents to parent their children as they see fit within the law.
I know it doesn't, of course not, but maybe they could have done something, like maybe talk to him about it, instead of just taking the game away like that. If they would have discussed it, and come to a conclusion together, maybe none of this would have happened. All I'm trying to do is see what they could have done to prevent the loss of a life.


thats a terrible example.

What the parentals say goes brosef. If they arnt happy about something they should talk to you first, and if there still not happy then they should take it away.
Parents have a right to raise their children that way.

That's what I'm saying, if they would have done that, things would have turned out differently. If I read the article right, after he bought the game, they just took it away, no questions asked.

I know my example wasn't the greatest, but it's the only thing I was really able to think of.

[Mass]

It's times like these that I wonder why people aren't mandated to have a police-inspected gun safe when they buy firearms...?

I don't think there's too much to discuss as to why he did it psychologically, he had, well, cabin fever.