[GALLERY] Chains' Scribbles

[SnaFuBAR]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2810/53378928.jpg
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9198/86583032.jpg

I find these areas pretty interesting. The gradation on the wings into rust and the remnants of purple in other areas is pretty ok. I think it could use refining, though. I really think you should go with the battlefield scrap look on a regular ghost skin, like i said before. It would make a cool scenery object, imo. Maybe render out the uv maps in max to a larger size... What size are they now?

[Chainsy]

No idea, the standard size bungie uses, I will refine more places, and before I start anything else I need to get this one done, as it is always a problem with me not finishing my work.

[Chainsy]

Ok, I have decided to start doing greyscale drawings in place of painting, because even though I am comfortable in that area, I need work on it obviously. A quick 45 minute sketch as I am about to go out to eat.

[teh lag]

Your proportions and viewing angles are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of whack. Just look at the torso compared to the head or legs (especially the legs) or right arm. You really need to work on that, it's a problem in quite a fair amount of your work.

[Invader Veex]

i can't say much, but the whole lower half looks fucked up, and the head is too short. and what's with the arm on the right?

[Advancebo]

It seems as though he is holding the sword over his shoulder.

[DaneO'Roo]

oh my fucking god stop fucking using inner outterglow/accented edges/whateverthefuckitis your doing and start looking at your textures. Does that look right, at all to you?

[Bastinka]

Higher resolution please or fix the disgusting aliasing.

[Chainsy]

Halo does not have anti-aliasing and I am using bungies standard resolutions so I can simply post the diffuse and crap when done and people can use it.

[mech]

That excuse doesn't work for textures buddy.

[Disaster]

making a higher resolution won't hurt anything. It will still apply to the uvws.

[Chainsy]

I had no idea lol.

[mech]

The front of the wings of your ghost have a lot of unused black space, I don't like how that looks.

[Bastinka]

Halo does not have anti-aliasing and I am using bungies standard resolutions so I can simply post the diffuse and crap when done and people can use it.
Yes but the texture view as anti-aliased because they're textures, you clearly didn't understand what I said. Only the outer edge of 3d models gets aliased in halo or a sharp edge, textures don't get affected by AA.

[teh lag]

Honestly? You're bitching at him about the lack of AA? It's one thing to point out that the green background is bad or that the renders could be closer, but that's just ridiculously petty.

A few things :

1. For god's sake, please make the front indentations match the rest of the nose's outline. Look, I'll even draw a picture :

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6048/ghost01q.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ghost01q.jpg)

2. As also illustrated above, I think the wing would look better if you made that panel that still has the gray match its surroundings.

3. If you're going to have the top be so dirty/dusty, then have the same thing going for the front. It just looks discontinuous.

4. Either make the bottom of the seat not purple or have other parts of the skin match that color, right now it stands out quite a bit and (I don't think) that's a place you want to be especially noticeable compared to the rest of the object.

[Chainsy]

Ok, so couple days ago, I decided to get back into greyscale drawings, have not done them in a long time, but I excel pretty well warmed up.
So I decided i would make a nice sketch, I drew up an elite and decided to post. The resulting crit turned my opinion of my greyscales from mediocre to just shit. I was so embarrassed, I took it down. Here is what I posted:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/elitecopy-1.png
Posing was fucked, perspective was too, too busy on details with all the cross hatching, it was overall terrible. So I decided to practice over these last few days getting these down, and finally today I drew a final one, that I knew was all I could do by myself and that it was ready for crit.
Here is my revised sketch of an elite.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/elite1.png





No seriously though, here it is.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/lifedrawingelite.png
Hope you like.

[Jean-Luc]

Holy crap that is MUCH better. :D

[SnaFuBAR]

Better, but don't tense every muscle in the drawing. Muscles work in opposition to each other. When one set is tensed, the other is relaxed.

[Chainsy]

Got it, like a rope on a pulley.

[SnaFuBAR]

No, not like a pulley. Flex your arm so your bicep is stiffened. Feel the difference between the bicep and triceps. Your triceps should be soft. If you extend your arm, your bicep will be soft, and your triceps tightened up.

Muscle groups work like this on every animal on the planet. There is no way to make it believable if all muscles are tensed up.

[Chainsy]

Ok, also your cat avatar scares me.

[Chainsy]

Decided to practice actual painting again, its still pretty much shit.
This is my take on the heretic elites.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/elite-1.png

[TeeKup]

That actually looks pretty interesting. However you either got the hand wrong or its at a bad angle.

You should really consider putting more effort into your work. Were that finished, it probably could have looked extremely well.

[mech]

That looks cool man.

[DEElekgolo]

Yes but the texture view as anti-aliased because they're textures, you clearly didn't understand what I said. Only the outer edge of 3d models gets aliased in halo or a sharp edge, textures don't get affected by AA.
He may be talking about dithering. But either way. It doesn't effect it that much.

[Boba]

Stop using sharpen, man, it doesn't make it look crisper. Also, could you just just take a leap of faith and finish the feet? I mean, it would have taken around two minutes, jesus christ.

[Chainsy]

No need to be so rude, but I like the sharpen in some places, helps with skin for me, but I did over do it some spots, will lay off it.

[rossmum]

The random sharpening would look alright on decaying painted wood or spots of abraded metals, but avoid it for anything else. Also, I think you're getting a little too close to the Brute side of things as far as proportions go; Elites are incredibly strong but tend to very very lanky and sinewy, as they were inspired by the alien warriors from Aliens. If you beef them up too much, they don't look right. I get that there'd be some musclehead ones much like there are humans, but there's only so much you can add before they stop looking like an Elite and start looking like a Brute with cleft palate.

[SnaFuBAR]

Shading on the arms is decent is nice and contrasty in color and value, but the chest armor goes pretty flat because the value stays consistent. You need to lose the abdominal armor and the dickguard, elites don't wear that. As it was said, it's too beefy for an elite. It's starting to look like a football playing brute. Hands are wrong, too. Looks like balled up human fists, sans pinkies. On the thigh armor, you need to keep up with the golden/bronzey armor color to pull the symmetry through.

About 100x better than your older work, though.

[killer9856]

His head looks awesome.

[Chainsy]

Quick sketch of a jackal, 1 hour.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/jackalsketch.png

[Joshflighter]

oh, wow that's awsome. :)

[Jean-Luc]

Quite nice, I like your interpretation of the Beam Rifle.
I know you only spent an hour on it, but if you were to continue it, I would suggest making the rocks uniformly detailed, lessen the sharpening, and make the Beam Rifle just slightly longer.

Looks nice overall.

[Hunter]

Getting very good chains. You should finish that and add some trees and more forest behind.

[Reaper Man]

Ok, also your cat avatar scares me.
That's my photo, bru :saddowns:

[Corndogman]

Getting very good chains. You should finish that and add some trees and more forest behind.

I say add some terrain, with a small stream cutting across the middle, and a forerunner tower behind that, off to the top left. Then add some more battle stuff going on, just don't over complicate it.

[DaneO'Roo]

Are you people that degenerate?

It looks like complete ass.

Check out bapsis stuff if you want to see some actual flair in painting.

[JunkfoodMan]

I think it looks good. Is that so bad, Dane?
I mean, it sure is an improvement over his old stuff.

[Chainsy]

Eh, Dane is probably right, I pretty much do suck. But since he gave no crit whatsoever, I can not improve on whatever he doesn't like, so I am going to keep painting my own way, sorry brah.

[ICEE]

protip: Ignore anything that comes out of dane's mouth keyboard unless your producing professional quality work. He expects perfection.

[Chainsy]

So I decided to paint a brute today, but halfway I got a huge block on what I should do with the legs, so I am asking yall what they should have.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/brutecopy.png

[rossmum]

Are you people that degenerate?

It looks like complete ass.

Check out bapsis stuff if you want to see some actual flair in painting.
Mate, be specific, that doesn't really help unless you're wanting to cause some sort of drama.

[Chainsy]

Eh just drop it, if dane wants to act like a 2 year old who cares.

[rossmum]

I do, because I find it annoying. I know he can give damn well better crit than that, and he should do it for everyone, not just his friends :|

[ICEE]

Drop it from this thread at the very least. Your right about him stirring up drama, but its not wise to perpetuate it any further.

[rossmum]

it's k, dane is my brosef

[teh lag]

So I decided to paint a brute today, but halfway I got a huge block on what I should do with the legs, so I am asking yall what they should have.

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1. Pink? Ok.... doesn't seem very brute-ish, but ok.

2. Just check out what brute armor plating looks like and copy that; I don't think there's much to it. Add some stuff if you want, but I would think it's fairly simple.

3. I'm not really digging the random spikes/barbs you've got sticking out of the head/chest armor.

[Joshflighter]

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn159/Joshflighter/brutecopy.png


Dee dah doo...

My point in this pic is that pic an angle and try to stay with it. :)

[Chainsy]

Started on this, no idea if I will paint the other elite, tried a lot of new stuff here, such as smudging and sharpening different points to indicate movement.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/elitebattlecopy.png

[Newbkilla]

Pretty cool, but the leg positions make the elite look weird. At first, I thought it was a brute, but you might want to change the tint of the color of the armor to blue or something.

[Corndogman]

The left arm is way too blurred, and does not look like movement at all, and the right arm is too sharp, it looks like the image was cut out with scissors there. The motion blur isn't constant with the whole body, and doesn't make sense in the places its in. Also, I'd say you still need to work on your poses. All of the positions you paint your characters in seem very awkward and unnatural, and the perspective will be completely different in certain areas. Hope this advice helps, good luck.

[rossmum]

Mo-blur or radial blur the whole limb or joint for movement. Never just smudge or blur the edges of something that's moving, it looks fucking awful.

The Elite on the left still looks like a Brute, by the way. I had to look twice to realise it wasn't. Elite skin is generally dark grey or brown and very scaly, whereas Brutes are more or less overgrown alien apes. The muscles are totally different, too. Brutes have huge lumps of the stuff, and Elites are very lanky with wiry muscle. Don't mix this stuff up, or it becomes impossible to tell which is which.

[Disaster]

I thought it was a brute until I started reading the comments :nsmug:

[Chainsy]

Ok, I will add more blur to the arms, i will lanky up the arms a bit, but on the skin tone, its going grey scale, was playing to add hues and saturation for color once done with it.

[DaneO'Roo]

no, you will not add blurr to the arms.

Stop blurring, stop sharpening, stop all that. Leave the filters panel alone too, it's not helping.

You also seem to be using the one brush for everything, if you are, stop that.

Your images seem to have a low dpi for your images, and your paintings are incredibly small.

The tones don't make much sense at all, the lighting and shading is negating itself and the overal style and design of everything seems like random objects flung together, with not much thought about adjascent and perpendicular angles or topographical flow.

All in all it's improvement, but you haven't really prgressed to me, you've really just got better at the same thing you allways have been doing.

[Chainsy]

Started on this today, even though I have a week deadline:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Promotionalposterfirstoffensivec-1.png
Edit- the white box is for the ship I am going to paint.

[Jean-Luc]

Interesting start, but I'd suggest giving the background more depth to it. Right now, with the absence of pure black, it feels like a very flat version of space. Also, it would look nice to improve the detail on the purplish nebula you have going there.

[rossmum]

What he said. Add some lighting to the nebula, they're clouds of gas. They look like clouds, smoke, so on and so forth. They react to light in much the same way as smoke does, for that matter. Right now there's barely any contrast or detail in the lighting, it should look almost fluffy.

[Newbkilla]

The planet in the background is not round at all.. Planets are spheres. The nebula's need to look more puffy, and larger differential in color.

This is a fine example. The outside is like a mist of purple smoke, while the inside, is blue, where nuclear fusion is beginning. http://objsam.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/nebula_rcw49_04lrg.jpg

[rossmum]

The planet in the background is not round at all.. Planets are spheres. The nebula's need to look more puffy, and larger differential in color.

This is a fine example. The outside is like a mist of purple smoke, while the inside, is blue, where nuclear fusion is beginning. http://objsam.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/nebula_rcw49_04lrg.jpg
Planets aren't always perfect spheres. Ours is a squashed sphere http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-science.gif

[Joshflighter]

Planets aren't always perfect spheres. Ours is a squashed sphere http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-science.gif


Still a sphere non-the less. :woot:

[Newbkilla]

No wai, it's a box? Idiot philosophers >:D

Still, it looks like an oval,

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8396/meaning.jpg

See how the outline of your planet is straight at certain points? Make it rounder, like that ^^

The shape of the planet is a sphere because of the size and distance away from it. If you look at all planets, especially mercury, it's shrank quite a bit in areas.

[Chainsy]

I know its not much, but I have not painted a normal human in so long, did one today, just for a little bit of practice.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/hoodieman.png

[Joshflighter]

The angle of the face doesn't match the angle of the mouth imo. Also, whats with the elite concept feet? :p

Or is that just the pants going to go around the shoe?

[Chainsy]

Baggy pants lol, did not even notice that, also about the mouth, its a smirk, hes not going to have a placid face while holding a Molotov cocktail.

[Joshflighter]

A face like Jet Li in my avatar would have been awesome. :p

[Chainsy]

Ok, painted this landscape today, and I have 2 versions, a gray scaled that was originally painted, and a colorized version. If you like the painting, tell me which one you like more and I will hand out a full res for it, as it was painted on a 3000x2000 canvas.
Gray scaled:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/landscape.png
Color
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/landscape-1.png

[Rob Oplawar]

Chains, I'ma say this once.

FINISH SOMETHING.

[Joshflighter]

I don't like it chains. I dunno what to crit.. maybe its the brush you are using? It just doesn't look like a clear pic of a landscape.

[SnaFuBAR]

The problem is that it's extremely featureless. It's akin to a color wash in watercolor.

[Chainsy]

Ok, duly noted.

[rossmum]

Add some details near the horizon to actually break up the ground and the sky, and put small clumps of tussock or cracked dirts in places. Deserts typically aren't that empty, the only places I can really think of that look that barren are in North Africa, like the Great Sand Sea. Even that isn't flat, though; the dunes constantly morph with the wind.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/firstoffensivelandscapetake2copy.jpg

[Joshflighter]

that would be epic.. but uh... the mountains look to organized.. why aren't they slipping out of the scene? They seem to only be in the pic and around its all flat... :|

[Jean-Luc]

I really like the colors and the detail on the mountain in the background, very appealing. I would suggest giving the grass a bit more detail/shading to make seem more grounded. Something about the Banshee bugs me as well, but not quite sure what it is.

[Advancebo]

The fact that its not a Banshee, but a Spirit dropship?

Also, Contact Harvest :O?

[Jean-Luc]

Oh, my bad :p

[Advancebo]

Make the dropship pop out more, it looks like its right on the slopes of the mountains.

[Disaster]

Mountains are good but the field is just really really bland.

[Advancebo]

Make it so you can see the lines of the grass.

[Corndogman]

Aye, Its supposed to look like they're walking through tall grass, but It just looks like floating torso's. More detail in the grass, and make it look like its being pushed away by the soldiers. And the grenade explosion, Its kicking up dirt, but it seems to be having no effect on the blades of grass around it, fix that.

[rossmum]

Mountain is good, you need more in the background though (I used the singular because I see virtually nothing to tell me otherwise); they never just 'end' suddenly, there would at least be some foothills or a proper cliff. The grass and trees have no definition at all and badly want some, because right now they just look like giant green blobs. The Marines are too bright, and the Covenant are hard to make out against the background. The dropship is way too stubby, unless it's meant to be banking left, in which case the perspective is stuffed.

Keep working on it, the mountain and sky are keepers at the very least.

[Chainsy]

I shall, here is just a small sketch I did last night before bed.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/flood2copy.png

[Joshflighter]

I don't get it.. does he not have arms? D:

[Maniac]

I think his right hand should be up holding the rope (which should be tight), then the body is positioned pretty good and maybe make his left arm uhh i dunno :)
nice though.

[Chainsy]

Practicing on random scenery.http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/scene.png

[jngrow]

Ok, at first, I thought you didn't like drawing legs or feet. Now it is apparent that you just don't like the bottoms of pictures. Why do you almost never draw them?

[rossmum]

The grass around the rock spire is what you should've had in the other picture, you can actually tell what it is.

[Chainsy]

I know, that's why I was practicing it. :)

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/eliteheadcopy.png

[SnaFuBAR]

it's an ant eater.

[teh lag]

You really need to finish some of the stuff you start man :\ You're at the level where you should really do an entire picture, not just make practice stuff that goes nowhere.

I absolutely hate the design, but at least you've dropped the blur/sharpen abuse you picked up as of late. I'd say more, but you probably won't touch the thing again (or post any revisions you make) so I won't bother.

[Chainsy]

I will be completely honest here, I have to totally disagree with you that I am at a level where I should do a full scene, I just do not feel I am ready, I need to learn perspective better, need to learn more proper brush strokes to express my work, that's what I am practicing on, making flesh look like flesh, grass like grass, metal like metal, I am still just starting to learn to run.

[TeeKup]

So learn then.

Stop producing half-assed attempts at art work that could be something great. You're not expanding yourself, in fact your stagnant.

[NuggetWarmer]

Making half, excuse me, a quarter of a picture is not going to teach you anything. You need to do multiple complete pictures in order to get real practice.

[Gamerkd16]

You really need to finish some of the stuff you start man :\ You're at the level where you should really do an entire picture, not just make practice stuff that goes nowhere.

This.

I don't get it. You are putting out great stuff. How hard can it be to just complete the picture? All it requires is more time and more ink. Skill shouldn't be a factor?

You've had plenty of practice already. 35 pages worth and probably a lot more. Time to move on up...

[TVTyrant]

Dude, Snaf's right. Badass ant eater is badass!

[Chainsy]

He meant it in a negative way.
Anyways have not had much time this week to do anything painting related, but managed to have 2 hours tonight get this done:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/concept.png

[Joshflighter]

Stargate worlds?

[Chainsy]

What...? I am sorry, I am not into stargate, so you'll have to explain.

[Joshflighter]

They have the same kind of concept armor in the game.. (at least it looks similar)
Let me get a link. :)

EDIT; now that I look at it.. its not that similar.

http://community.stargateworlds.com/warehouse/gallery/1188_original.jpg

[Corndogman]

Proportions are totally out of whack.

[Reaper Man]

Wow, what's with the perspective? I can't tell if he's drawn facing directly ahead or if he's tilted towards the viewer. Proportions are messed up man. You aught to try drawing with some guide lines, at least until you get the hang of perspective and proportion..

[Limited]

Wow, what's with the perspective? I can't tell if he's drawn facing directly ahead or if he's tilted towards the viewer. Proportions are messed up man. You aught to try drawing with some guide lines, at least until you get the hang of perspective and proportion..
Hes clearly facing the user, however its not dead straight because its not a concept document, its more like a real life pose. Due to the fact people hardly ever stand completely parallel and straight the body has a tiny twist to it.

I think picture looks great, the body does look a bit off, especially when compared to the guys legs. Usually if a guy has big legs, hes going to have a chest at least the same proportions. Obviously this is still a WIP so it can change and you've only blocked out the shape right now.

Loving the details on the helmet.

[Chainsy]

So yeah, have not modeled in the longest time, had an hour to spare, came out with this, no the base and the top parts are not done, all I could finish was the back wall as I put that time limit on myself.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/View1.png

[Advancebo]

Looks nice, but that wall thing behind the pillars dont look forerunner.

[ThePlague]

Looks nice, but that wall thing behind the pillars dont look forerunner.
Uhh...yes it does.

[jngrow]

So yeah, have not modeled in the longest time, had an hour to spare, came out with this, no the base and the top parts are not done, all I could finish was the back wall as I put that time limit on myself.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/View1.png

I actually really like this. I don't know what you are doing with it, but maybe put some space for a hallway in there?

[rossmum]

Uhh...yes it does.
No, it does not.

The triangles radiating out from the centre are at fault. Without those dividing it up, it would.

[Limited]

The back wall reminds me of the controls in Halo CE.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/7/75/TSC03.png
Probably over all shape, and just imagining lines being drawn from corners.

[Hunter]

I dont like the back wall. Design is bad.

[Limited]

I dont like the back wall. Design is bad.
Meh I dont see how its bad, I keep imagining the triangularly part animating open to show some kind of control panel, and the rest of the walls there will be lit dimly.

[Chainsy]

Doesn't really matter anyways, as it will not be going ingame, since I am too lazy to seal some stuff. Was just to make sure I could still model after all this time.

[Chainsy]

Have not had much time to do shit lately, school is just a bitch and its the first year of high school
so it's a pain in the ass trying to adjust, anyways here's a speed painting of something I thought of off the top of my head when bored.


http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/sppedpaintingcopy.png
Also before stupid questions are asked:
1. Inspiration from silent hill, and roman gladiators, helmet is supposed to be large
2. As said above with silent hill inspiration, the odd looking skin is because he is not alive.
3. I need to learn muscle groups.
If it is not anything of the above, please feel free to post what suggestions you have.

[DEElekgolo]

Nice.

[NuggetWarmer]

Cool. Do more like this, and I'll stop bitching to you on XFire about finishing things. It actually looks like it's done instead of missing a bunch of stuff.

[Con]

much better perspective and proportions here, but don't outline the muscles so much. The shoulder pad looks too much like part of the arm, so change the colour a bit. His upper arm doesn't look too great either.

[Corndogman]

Its definitely an improvement. Is the left arm supposed to be transparent though?

[Chainsy]

Started on texturing nuggets assault rifle, so far on what I have on the basic diffuse:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/assaultriflerender.png
Lower res, but shows more of ar:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/assaultrifle.jpg
The grip is being done by veex, which I will edit a bit to my preferences, yes I am aware of the errors on the grip, nugget will have to handle those.

[DaneO'Roo]

Ok, no.

Nononononono.

Please, stop that. I really don't have the time right now to tell you whats wrong, i just saw that post and got jabbed in the side by a bit of shock.

Also, more than 1 person doing 1 texture is a recipe for disaster. Layers go missing, files go missing, things happen. No.

[BobtheGreatII]

The only thing I like about that is the UNSC logo... and even that could be done differently.

[jngrow]

I agree on the UNSC logo... but why is it cloth?

[Mass]

snip
draw some feet or you'll never learn

please

[Chainsy]

Yea thanks guys, how about posting what I could do in fixing it? Only last 4 posts that have been at all useful was mass's and even then it was not even about the assault rifle. :\

[Hunter]

Started on texturing nuggets assault rifle, so far on what I have on the basic diffuse:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/assaultriflerender.png
Lower res, but shows more of ar:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/assaultrifle.jpg
The grip is being done by veex, which I will edit a bit to my preferences, yes I am aware of the errors on the grip, nugget will have to handle those.

Whats with the spray can sprays on the side of it?

[rossmum]

AR is a non-starter, dude. No material definition at all, really obnoxious grunge, inset pieces where they make no sense, and faded orange/yellow paint, of all things? Since this is for CE and not some flashy next-gen game, add some decent lighting so we can at least make out what's what. Add scratches where they make sense (top of the upper heatshield/computer, around the front of the heatshield, on the wider parts of the stock and receiver). Ditch the paint, ditch the UNSC tag - I'm pretty sure the owners of the rifle don't need that as a constant reminder who they're fighting for - and lose the ugly crinkling on the cheekpiece, which is the wrong shape model-wise to be that soft a material. Make the grunge look less like fresh dogshit and more like a buildup of sand, dust and grit, and reduce the visible amount of it. I'd lose the angled divider in the receiver's inset, too. Either make it straight or don't make one at all. Weapons are designed to work and, in times of war, to be easy to manufacture. They get less complex as production concessions are made, not more.

[Chainsy]

Thanks ross, I will probably just restart from scratch though. Well I do no tend to show much of the medium I am most comfortable with, penciling and inking, for that same reason that I need much more work in the other mediums that I rarely post them.
I had an hour of free time, was extremely bored so I got two sketches done, mountain scene taking the longer of the two.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_4065.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_4066.jpghttp://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_4067.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_4069.jpghttp://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_4072.jpghttp://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_4071.jpg

[Joshflighter]

No offence, but hatching doesn't always look good if you know what I mean. :)

[Bastinka]

Like said, a suggestion would be try different styles of shading.

[Chainsy]

Like what kind? I was using mainly pen in that, and its just a normal ballpoint, so no matter what, it will bleed its guts and create a dark splotch and I can not make it fade, I do not cross hatch with pencils though, I pencil in thick shadows then use my finger and erase to make them fade and blend in well.

[Chainsy]

So i had 45 minutes to spare and was in the mood to do something disgusting, decided to do a flood.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/floodgina.png
E- oh forgot to tell what it does, top claw/sucker attaches to wall/ ceiling/ ground and its mouth/gina thing stays closed and pushed against a wall to look like a cell pod until prey comes near, in which it opens the mouth and shoots out the hooked tentacles. I also had the thought of it to move around it used the hooked tentacles to drag it self along slowly to new spots.

[jngrow]

Cool, but IMO it just doesn't look that gross.

[teh lag]

It doesn't look so much like a flood to me... more like a Hunter Metroid (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/metroid/images/thumb/2/29/Hunter_metroids.jpg/180px-Hunter_metroids.jpg) that's using a Flood texture set.

That aside, it doesn't look so bad; the shading gets iffy at the very top but it's otherwise pretty solid. I'd like to see it without the green fog (?) covering up the edges though...

[Chainsy]

Eh, I put it all on one layer to make the file not as large, so even if I erase fog around edges, it will still have the exact same effect.

[Disaster]

Hell. I might actually model that.

[Chainsy]

No you won't disaster, you're too damn lazy and busy. :)

[Chainsy]

Ok, so I am redesigning the ma5k, but I do not have much experience with guns, here is what I have so far, barrel has not been added yet, I do not know if I should add a scope, would make it pointless, still have not added clip and not sure whether I am going to do the usual bull-pup design or something else. Give me any ideas you think would improve it as I now have the basic shape:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/ma5kredesigncopy.png

[Chainsy]

Ok, so one of my regular practices that has been helping me, is to do timed session to see how much I can get done in the allotted amount that is given.
The above flood painting took me the usual time, so I am trying to shave it down from 45min -2 hours to 30min-1 hour 15 min.
I gave myself the limit of 30 minutes for this piece, decided to do a stylized punk zombie.
I like it enough that I will probably refine it tomorrow.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/stylizedpunkzombie.png

[Chainsy]

Update, decided to refine.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/stylizedpunkzombie-1.png

[ThePlague]

Penis Sword!

[JunkfoodMan]

you need to work on your perspective. to me, that head looks like it was drawn facing the "camera", and edited using the "Perspective" transform in photoshop.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/stylizedpunkzombie-2.png

[NuggetWarmer]

"Fuck you! Gimme another leg or I'll stab you with my shitty sword!"

[Chainsy]

Have not painted in a week in a half, to me, that's the equivalent of Bod trying to not masturbate for 4 months, my hands are fucking blue.
So in light of this, I decided to just get started on another painting, just to get my hand working again. So I have the basic shape done, also about the girly left hand pose, its because he has a shoulder mounted cannon he will be holding onto. This is just the basic suit, still have to add exo armor, shading, details and obviously the cannon.
Reason I am posting this is because I am done for the night, and want some suggestions that I can mull over in my sleep.
Well enough rambling.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1-1.png

[Con]

lengthen the lower leg a bit, and make the foot just a bit longer. It could be seen as the leg being at an angle, but it's not a natural position. Not too sure about the face, but I guess that's your thing. It's definitely an improvement, good job so far.

[DaneO'Roo]

^ no the leg is in correct proportion if shaded correctly. The only thing that troubles me in terms of proportion is the end of the foot, but he is an alien.

[Chainsy]

Blueman has gone back to the incubation stage, didn't really like the design, the house is at 85 degrees at 9 o clock pm in Texas humidity..... can't really focus right now, but am painting something, but it's gonna be a quickie.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/runner.png

[thehoodedsmack]

I can't tell if he's running on a wall, running normally with the camera tilted, or jumping over something. Hell, it might not even be one of those. What exactly is going on?

[Roostervier]

Yeah, your past few concepts have been pretty unclear on what's going on. I've got no idea what he's doing.

[NuggetWarmer]

God damn it finish something.

[ThePlague]

God damn it finish something.
^This

[Chainsy]

Yeah, your past few concepts have been pretty unclear on what's going on. I've got no idea what he's doing.
Ok, yeah once I finish it will be pretty clear, he is running, wall or floor I have no idea, will paint it in though once finished with body, yes nuggers, I will finish this one, just didn't like where blue man was heading.

[Corndogman]

Tbh, It looks like he's got some type of anti-gravity boots on or something, and hes about to fly away. I don't see how it's going to look right if he's running on the wall or the floor.

In other words, give him anti-gravity boots.

[Chainsy]

Ok, I am also open to do projects in concept work as I am not on a team.
And I am getting bored with no specifications on something to do.

[Chainsy]

Been a long 3 weeks.... step dad and mom are divorcing, I am stuck living at my grandparents in one room with 3 people... Just havn't been shitted to do anything recently, and since I have to use a usb drive to get my drawings online, it's a pain in the ass. I decided to relieve stress today and just do a generic halo scene, portraying the last character on the game of zombies, took about an hour, since I was tired, but it was fun and distracting enough to get my mind of the stress...(also I am aware that one of the figures on the ground closer to the camera is a bit out of perspective, need to make him larger, will be easy because he is on a sperate layer, also need to add some flying snow from bullets and zombie falling)
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/laststandcopy.png

[DEElekgolo]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4376/wrongzcx.jpg
The scale of the two spartan's I am pointing out are at about the same size. So the differences in distance from the camera are about the same, meaning the lighting of the two must be similar.

[Jean-Luc]

The main thing that I'd like to see in that is more detail and sharpness in your drawing. Other than that, the concept looks good, however your camera angle isn't quite what I would consider dynamic. Tilting the image slightly would help.

[Hunter]

It looks good, just try and make your drawings sharper and have more detail.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/painting.png
Working on metal still, have to make water...well...look like water.

[Corndogman]

Work on the cliffs/rock... they look like rock candy (though not in a good way).

[SnaFuBAR]

the concept looks good
well you can cut that out because it's not his concept... it's a paint over or repainting of a halo 3 promotional image.

[Chainsy]

Wrong sir, The one you're thinking of was not the zombie gametype, both blue and red team possesed weapons of all sorts, the promotional poster that you are speaking of also had the same number of red and blue, the poster is a desert environment, and is from a completely different perspective and has different armor varients. So please Snaf, if you're going to be the usual douche with crit, that's fine, at least back your shit up before questioning my work, because I do not deserve to have my work, though bad it may be, insulted even more. Ok chewbaca?

Oh, and by the way, anyone wondering the poster of subject, the reason I knew which one it was is because it was on my wall.
Here it is:
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/halo-3-fight-l.jpg

[Chainsy]

Designing a biosuit, have the under skin part read, planning on adding metal, but I am having a problem with ideas on the head, any ideas will be appreciated.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/biosuit.png

[SnaFuBAR]

That was actually not the one i was thinking of. I thought I remembered a couple of poses being the same, but I was wrong. Anyways, the concept (even if it were a complete copy) wasn't very strong anyways. The bullet strikes from the turret are not in line with the barrel, the way the closest blue spartan is dying (?) doesn't make sense. he looks like he's wall running. What is the one next to him doing? Nothing is sharp. If anything, the red spartan should've been painted a lot sharper than anything else.

Your little lake scene there (which looks like some kind of futuristic kohler faucet surrounded by crushed yellow napkins that turn to ambiguous yellow chunks) looks like the perspective is pretty borked. You missed the material on everything.

The biosuit looks alright but the chest and abs part looks like something with big eyes, a nose and 4 huge teeth. i would suggest following muscle groups if you're going to make it look like muscles. This one actually has decent symmetry. The way you use light and dark though I'm not sure if you're trying to simulate a gradation or muscle striations, but it does neither. it makes the surface of every part look really playdough-ish.

[Chainsy]

Yeah I wanted a rubber like quality on the biosuit, going to add (pores?) some kind of vents on it for heat to get out of, and metal for hard parts such as abs, ect.

[Chainsy]

Goin a little more complicated on the under armor, theme has been changed to gladiator.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/biosuit-1.png

[Chainsy]

:)http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/biosuitcopy.png

[Disaster]

wow, chains is actually finishing paintings.

Is it the end of the world already?

[MetKiller Joe]

I don't think there is enough depth. Don't get me wrong, there is some, just not enough, especially in the head area.

[Chainsy]

Yeah, I am not done yet, still need to add volume to head and noticed some errors around the armpit closest to the camera, will fix.

[Corndogman]

I just really don't like the face, there's nothing appealing about the design to me. Also, the handle of the sword (?) is bent, not sure if that was intentional or what.

[Higuy]

Add more detail to the next area and add a little bit to the sword.
And is it just me or is the nose looking a little crooked?
I like the detail around in belly/waist area

[Chainsy]

Bending of handle is intentional, the face tbh I like, I just have to blend it in better, on the subject of the nose being crooked...I have no idea, will have a few people look over it and if they agree i'll fix, also got some cirt from duce on the waist being too thin, will fix.

[Chainsy]

Decided to do a serious painting for once, here is my plan for it, took me 30 minutes to think out.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/lol-6.png

[Higuy]

What is it?
I don't see anything in that at all.

[Chainsy]

Oh ok, yeah I can see where you are coming from, revised it a bit:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/cloudscopy.png

[mech]

Looks like a penis. Apparently the elite's trying to stop it from ejaculating. It's not a bad painting, just that's the first thing I thought when I saw it.

[Chainsy]

Thats because it is, look at those veins, and from that look on the elites face you can tell he's having fun.

[Cagerrin]

Looks more like a Brute than an Elite.

[Disaster]

Looks like a penis. Apparently the elite's trying to stop it from ejaculating. It's not a bad painting, just that's the first thing I thought when I saw it.
god yes lol :gonk:

[Newbkilla]

Lmao, it does. Also, I hope to God you were joking Chains..

[Chainsy]

So I am having a drawing block, I have some concepts in my mind, but they're not ready to go digital yet, so took 20 minutes to do some modeling, as I have not gone a round in a while.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/boredom-2.png

[Joshflighter]

Is that supposed to be forerunner? :o

[Malloy]

Yeh those podiums are really bad. Alot of innacuracies are noticed and I am too tired to offer precise constructive advice. So i'll see what I tihnk tomorrow.

[Chainsy]

Yes, inaccuricies to me not using angle snaps or checking anything, just modeling, also did not save the file so I couldn't fix anything even if I wanted to. :)

[ThePlague]

That half sword thing on the elite/brute looks pretty badass

[Chainsy]

So had 30 minutes before bed to kill, decided to just do a random painting of an environment.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/speedpainting-2.png

[Con]

I'm not given a great feeling of depth. The atmosphere is there, but the composition is almost boring. It seems like the focal point is the gate, but the gate itself isn't all that interesting. The shadows of the gate don't seem to come from any apparent light source, and if such a light source existed, then it would have a different effect on the lighting of the scene. The brush work looks much better though, it's definitely an improvement.

[SnaFuBAR]

Everything kind of blurs together. no definition on anything, no separation of ground and walls. Honest to God, dude, this is probably the last time I'll tell you, because you let this piece of crit roll off like water on a duck's ass, but that default photoshop brush, stop using it. Everything looks like brush strokes, only it's all different size strokes, nothing looks like what it should be. You don't want it to look like brush strokes. Everything is almost completely abiguous.

[Chainsy]

Snaf, please quit making assumptions that are not true, I thank you for the crit, but the problem with your crit is that I used 5 different brushes. Now, seeing as I did this in a monotone color, with no contrast, of ocurse everything blends in, and it my bad for not adding a point of interest. Brush strokes are fine snaf, I saw a guy paint the grand canyon in photorealism with only one brush, and I will work in my own style.

[rossmum]

I think his point was that the brushstrokes are too obvious, which I agree with. It's too easy to tell exactly which brush whole areas of that were done with and that really kills it.

[Limited]

rossmum you seem to be focusing on areas of the painting and not taking in the whole scene. Ok the bit middle left from the broken down fall is rather obvious however thats a small part of the painting and should be overlooked.

A painting is a scene, dont ignore that fact.

[rossmum]

Yeah, except that the immediate foreground (and I mean ground, literally) is the only part which doesn't scream PS brushstrokes (although to be fair even it isn't all that far from the rest)...

I'm not ignoring any facts, far from it. I can overlook things if the overall result justifies that, but not when the 'things' are the overall result.

[DEElekgolo]

Have you ever tried Vignetting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vignetting) for environments?

[Limited]

Yeah, except that the immediate foreground (and I mean ground, literally) is the only part which doesn't scream PS brushstrokes (although to be fair even it isn't all that far from the rest)...

I'm not ignoring any facts, far from it. I can overlook things if the overall result justifies that, but not when the 'things' are the overall result.
The items in the backdrop doesnt. The little fence thing doesnt, I have no idea what your talking about saying whole drawing looks like brush strokes.

[rossmum]

As someone who works with Photoshop just about every day, I can tell you right now that brushstrokes are exactly what they look like.

[Chainsy]

Nothing special, just the usual, also I noticed just now the perspective on the belt is borked, will fix when I get some crit on it.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/skully.png

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/skully-1.png

[Corndogman]

That blade makes no sense, he would stab himself in the head when he lifts his arms up. Not to mention its position on the arm doesn't seem like it would make it a very efficient weapon.

[Chainsy]

Bad perspective on my part, its supposed to be on back elbow, and would be a very effective weapon. I need to work on volume and anatomy now, legs are too small, I have the skill, now I just need to get the technical crap down to the last bit.

[Corndogman]

Yeah, and work on your definition more. It was a lot better in this painting (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showpost.php?p=399636&postcount=418) you did than in this one.

[Limited]

Do you ever block out/draw outline of the sketch first? Maybe thats why your having troubles with perspective.

[Bastinka]

Shading looks a bit weird, need darker darks and lighter lights to really distinguish shapes.

[Chainsy]

Thanks for crit, here is a speed painting for eye candy in thanks!!!
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/speedpaintcopy.png

[MetKiller Joe]

That's actually pretty decent. Some stuff that I can't pinpoint, but looks good for a concept.

[jngrow]

Getting a lot better but you still really need to work on your definition.

[mech]

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8979/speedpaintcopy.png

Looks pretty cool.

[MetKiller Joe]

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8979/speedpaintcopy.png

Looks pretty cool.

I could have sworn we just had an entire thread about shitposting and how it affects the community. /half-kidding

..and this is definitely not backseat moderation

[Chainsy]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU
anyways, I could've sworn you would've gone for metal tits.

[Joshflighter]

Wow, chains, thats really awsome!

Edit: Wtf??? Is Chains banned??

[Chainsy]

Don't know why, but decided to read my whole gallery from page 1.
I am nostalgic and stunned I have actaully improved this much, and I want to tell you all thank you for helping me improve.... That said, I am still not satisfied with my work, and never will be!!!
I am gonna catch them all!!!
Fuck wrong line.
I AM GONNA BE THE BEST
THAT NO ONE EVER WAS
TO PAINT THEM IS MY REAL TEST
TO IMPROVE ON THEM IS MY CAUSE

I WILL TRAVEL ACROSS THE LAND
SEARCHING FAR AND WIDE
TEACH ME TO UNDERSTAND
THE POWER THATS INSIDE!!!

fuck yea.

[Joshflighter]

So... You drunk?

[Newbkilla]

Nah, hungover.. Seriously, what was up with the speech dude?

[Roostervier]

he just wants attention

[ThePlague]

Pokemon :\

[Chainsy]

If you hate pokemon get the fuck out, in fact, from now on I will only paint new and exciting pokemon to keep the series alive!

[Chainsy]

Ok, so I am entering the teen challenge at conceptart.org and am planning on winning or getting damn close, I want to get my name out there now, so I will be obviously be more likely noticed ahead of time or could possibly get a scholarship, though I highly doubt it, it's worth a go.

So the theme is Selkies, which are seal spirits who disguise themselves as men or women.
Mostly all the ones have been beautiful women getting out of seal suits, wanted to get a more tribal, animalistic view then the grace theyre going for.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-3copy.png

[Chainsy]

Revisions.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-3copy-1.png

[NuggetWarmer]

oh god the toes

if you want to win you're going to have to do better than that. sorry duder, it looks like you sorta just started coloring without some lineart to work with. the definition is lacking and needs to be darker/deeper in many parts, and the proportions are off on his legs.

[SnaFuBAR]

need refraction of the water surface on him.

[Reaper Man]

Pretty cool, but why would a seal spirit strap feathers to itself? Also, the feathers should be bent back..

I think red strips of cloth would make more sense.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/hamma1.jpg
Low res Jpeg, skin is a 2048 by 2048, so pretty good res in renders, yes I know it isn't brute style, I just did it for shits n giggles. Only straight up diffuse, will finish bottom tomorrow, and add specular and shaders and normal map and all that nice stuff.

[Corndogman]

Wait a second... thats a render?

[Chainsy]

yeah

[Roostervier]

I think you should wait next time until you get "beta" bitmaps for all of those (normal, spec, diffuse). It will look much nicer and people will be more impressed. Also, if you do diffuse first, I have to question your work flow. Granted, there are people that do diffuse first all the time (IIRC Con does), but it's much easier to do the heightmap/normal map first. Especially if you convert the height map to an AO map to bring out more detail in the diffuse.

Anyway, on to the skin. I think the gold is a bad idea. Needs to be normal metal. Same thing with the teal green. Also, the parts that are exposed metal look a bit too cloudy; actually, most of it does. It needs more material definition.

[MetKiller Joe]

I think 1024x1024 would do fine for the skin. There isn't much in the way of detail even if you wanted to include normal maps.

I'd go with rooster on this one. Gold does not suite the gravity hammer nor the green.

[Chainsy]

Green is stone, jade to be exact, that's why it is kind of cloudy, as said I know it is not brutish in any way, was just skinning it for shits n giggles, i could change it to red and grey though.

[SnaFuBAR]

you need to work on your material definition. this looks way too painterly.

[Chainsy]

Thanks for the crit guys, I just honestly don't think skinning is for me anyways, I just do it to get a breath of fresh air from painting in 2d.
Anyways just some more random wish wash, a bit morbid, but isn't my work always that in some way?
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/skully-2.png

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/skully-2.pngWhere's dah crit? :(

[CabooseJr]

Looks deadly.

[Hunter]

Looks like hes ready to spank someone.

[Joshflighter]

Maybe its a she?

Looks cool, would be nice to see you do a dark background for it, but not a foggy/smokey one.

[Chainsy]

Before I say anything ROSSUM and other people with a unhealthy obession who are
WWII enthusiasts will probably be angry at my depiction of the WWII war planes as I did these out of my head, and the whole point was to have them be recognizable as "hey, those are some old WWII war planes!!!" to the average person. Anyways.....
Was in a patriot mood today, no idea why, but I decided to do a speed paint on some WII war planes and it built up to this.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Rossisgointopopalung.png
Edit- I am aware the wings were not well done as they are crooked, I noticed them too late, oh well.

[Newbkilla]

Hawaii and Alaska weren't part of US in WWII. So 48 stars, not 50. :)

[nick3d]

looks good, you done it in photoshop?

[Chainsy]

Been designing my own custom odst, visor color is going to change, still need to finish and render the rest of it.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-5.png

[NuggetWarmer]

Once you finish this, could you make side and front views? I'd like to model this. :)

[Chainsy]

Ok, but they won't be colored. :) Also keep that to yourself, rooster might try to bite off your fingers, he wants a go at it too.

[Joshflighter]

Nuggy, you have other stuff to model. :)

[NuggetWarmer]

nostfu >:C

[Malloy]

I'll model this biped.

[Joshflighter]

Wow, wth...... This happened once I modeled the ODST barrier too.. :|

[Chainsy]

Well just some stuff I have been working on the past week, nothing really turned out as I planned, my mind has been fucked up from my gf being in the Bahamas, miss her.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-2copy.png
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/cityscapespeedpaintcopy-1.png
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/mutantinsurgent.png

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/maninred.png

[Heathen]

Been designing my own custom odst, visor color is going to change, still need to finish and render the rest of it.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-5.png
Why is everyone insisting on the ODST's looking fat.
Fat people aren't cool.
They don't look fat in the games.

[Chainsy]

Because most ODSTs are american.

[Joshflighter]

LOL.

Also, chains, concept.. :D

[Chainsy]

Awww cmon, don't push it. >:(

[SonicXtreme]

personally i dont think theres anything wrong with that ODST concept , or some of the other stuff looks good to me :)