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Atty
January 21st, 2009, 11:07 AM
You feel your smarter then the teacher? I'm in a intro to computers and info class right now and I think, on a bad day, I know more about a computer then this guy, and I had to pay upwards of $500 for this class, just to sit here for 16 weeks and listen to a monotone teacher tell me things I've known since 3rd grade....ugh.
Llama Juice
January 21st, 2009, 11:13 AM
It's an intro to computers class... what did you expect?
That's like when I had my 3D Fundamentals class and the teacher seemed stupid because he had to dumb down everything for the noobs who've never touched 3d before. I had him again later in another class where he could get away from modeling the same 300 poly character over and over and over again.
Think about the situation from the teachers perspective.
Or, in highschool... my computer teacher was retarded and I did have to teach him how do to a lot of stuff... but that's highschool, he was still smarter than most of the students...
Atty
January 21st, 2009, 11:17 AM
Honestly, a teacher that actually has a grasp of the course material vs a teacher who is just reading from a book, and doesn't understand the material.
Also, you have a point on considering it from his perspective...but still, I can't believe this is a required course for a CS major, just wanting to enter into that field should prove you have more intelligence then this class will ever require.
MetKiller Joe
January 21st, 2009, 12:35 PM
Honestly, a teacher that actually has a grasp of the course material vs a teacher who is just reading from a book, and doesn't understand the material.
Also, you have a point on considering it from his perspective...but still, I can't believe this is a required course for a CS major, just wanting to enter into that field should prove you have more intelligence then this class will ever require.
Some people assume that CS is easy and it = free & easy money, which is why the course is dumbed down to a level where it no longer teaches anything beyond "Excel: Advanced Techniques" or whatever.
My computer programming teacher just tells me and my friend (both of us are beyond the class in material because we've been doing this for many years) that we should just take a task (like one time we chose File I/O) and master it.
He knows that he could not teach us much more, so he just let us do our own thing. We are much more productive, and he's always eager to see what we've cooked up.
I'd just ask if you could do side projects because if you are beyond the class in every measurable form, you shouldn't have to go through what is already engraved in your skull (things that you know cold).
My two cents.
flibitijibibo
January 21st, 2009, 01:03 PM
Honestly, a teacher that actually has a grasp of the course material vs a teacher who is just reading from a book, and doesn't understand the material.
Also, you have a point on considering it from his perspective...but still, I can't believe this is a required course for a CS major, just wanting to enter into that field should prove you have more intelligence then this class will ever require.
This is one of those classes that I would skip if attendance wasn't taken. Or, you can do what my brother did during his econ class and just read the book, block out the teacher's noises, and ace the exam because the exam is most likely just a photocopy of the chapter reviews.
Apoc4lypse
January 21st, 2009, 01:04 PM
You feel your smarter then the teacher? I'm in a intro to computers and info class right now and I think, on a bad day, I know more about a computer then this guy.
My intro to AutoCAD class... lawl.
I was always miles ahead of that man, even when things got screwed up in his program. (hed been using cad since it was just a command program and the newer versions confused him like 2009) I'd never even seen auto cad 2009 but I still figured out things before he did when he couldn't figure out something.
Thats not to say he wasn't a good teacher, considering I think I was the only one in there who spends half his life on a computer. It was just boring waiting on him to teach the rest of the class, I ended up only showing up for 20-40 minutes of class per day of class at one point, but the whole class was supposed to be like 2 hours and 30 mins. It took weeks when I could have learned everything he taught us in like a week maybe (in need of an accelerated course for people who knoWutDaFuxUp).
E: I have to take a computer literacy class this semester also xD required for my major. I looked at the book I was supposed to buy, and I'm not even bothering its like 130 bucks for it, and its basically an ellaborate guide to micosoft office, fuck that...
Rob Oplawar
January 21st, 2009, 01:24 PM
College isn't about gaining knowledge or skills directly useful to your chosen profession. You're paying out the ass for a piece of paper that tells potential employers the following:
You have the commitment to follow through on a 4 year project.
You have the ability to learn, even if the things you are learning are not interesting or even useful.
You have the ability to work hard, even when the work does not appeal to you.
And perhaps most importantly, you have the restraint to obey and "respect" somebody who probably knows a lot less than you because they are your superior.
In almost any job you will need all of these skills.
It's stupid and arbitrary and shouldn't work this way, but the world's not gonna change while you're around, so you can either gamble on the slim chance of being successful doing things your own way, or you can fork over the cash and four years of your life to get a fallback plan in the likely situation that doing things your own way doesn't work out.
NuggetWarmer
January 21st, 2009, 04:57 PM
In 6th grade I taught computer class while the teacher sat back in her chair.
Mr Buckshot
January 21st, 2009, 05:01 PM
IB Mathematics Higher Level. The teacher just parroted everything the IB study-guide book said, so it was a super easy course with a super easy IB exam.
This math teacher's son went to my school as well and while his son was certainly not dumb at all he struggled with math more than any other subject. Hmm...
CN3089
January 21st, 2009, 05:02 PM
You feel your smarter then the teacher?
You're probably wrong. http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-smug.gif
ramis92
January 21st, 2009, 05:08 PM
Nearly all of my computer classes were like this. Especially during Graphic Arts (Photoshop work). The teacher just cared about the money he was making, and it looked like his only photo editing software he's ever used was MS Paint:lmao:. I'd do a 2 week long project in 2 days, and play Halo and CS 1.6 for the rest of the time.
MetKiller Joe
January 21st, 2009, 05:37 PM
College isn't about gaining knowledge or skills directly useful to your chosen profession. You're paying out the ass for a piece of paper that tells potential employers the following:
You have the commitment to follow through on a 4 year project.
You have the ability to learn, even if the things you are learning are not interesting or even useful.
You have the ability to work hard, even when the work does not appeal to you.
And perhaps most importantly, you have the restraint to obey and "respect" somebody who probably knows a lot less than you because they are your superior.
In almost any job you will need all of these skills.
It's stupid and arbitrary and shouldn't work this way, but the world's not gonna change while you're around, so you can either gamble on the slim chance of being successful doing things your own way, or you can fork over the cash and four years of your life to get a fallback plan in the likely situation that doing things your own way doesn't work out.
QFT.
Yes, boiled down. College is a place where you prove competence, and, if lucky, you learn something in the process.
paladin
January 21st, 2009, 05:46 PM
right now, i am feeling that way while i type in class.
Bodzilla
January 21st, 2009, 06:07 PM
I had the same problem when i did an info tech. course during highschool.
the course was that shit i didnt bother sitting the exam for it and after 6 months never went back.
I just concentrated on my wood work project (I could only use 1 of the courses towards my UAI, fucking aced that shit btw) and walked away with a good result.
the whole course is just so horrendously stupid, and has been this way for about 10 years.
My brothers a computer genius basically, he just knows what he's doign and he's devastated at the lack of knowledge people have after doing these year long courses.
Because when he did it, he actually learnt something.
Everything is dummed down so they can churn people out quickly into the industry because the Drop out rate used to be extremely high.
and as a result, nobody learns anything any more.
English Mobster
January 21st, 2009, 06:09 PM
Ah yes... 9th grade Computer Animation.
I did an entire semester's worth of work in about 4 weeks (actually, only 2, because I went to Flordia for a vacation for 2 of those weeks), so the teacher gave me administrative privileges, access to Adobe Photoshop CS2 (We were using a program called Macromedia Fireworks), and an "Advanced Photoshop" book.
Did most of the excercises in THAT in about 4 weeks, then I spent the remaining couple months as a teacher's assistant, basically screwing around with my shiny administrative privlieges.
I think at one point I managed to manipulate my own account so I was able to play Halo and access blocked websites without the higher-ups who are using remote desktop to watch your every move noticing.
dark57
January 21st, 2009, 06:13 PM
well my computer teacher didn't know what video cards were and ended up teaching us business skills...
Limited
January 21st, 2009, 07:25 PM
Sometimes yes. Has the lecturer your talking about worked in the industry before getting the job at the college?
Mr Buckshot
January 21st, 2009, 07:41 PM
This wasn't really a class, but still hilarious:
For one activity my English teacher brought the class down to the library computer stations. The librarian then set up a laptop with a projector to show the students how to use databases that the school provides to students free of charge.
I spent 5 minutes laughing at the librarian because she didn't know how to properly connect the VGA cable to the laptop 0_O then I "kindly" walked up and helped her.
After that she started the tutorial on how to use the database, and screwed up real bad, seriously it's just an info database, no one needs to have a live demonstration to figure out how to use the database for research.
Yeah, so I've always felt much smarter than the librarians at school. I also feel smarter than my math teacher as posted previously.
Limited
January 21st, 2009, 07:44 PM
Yeah, what I found is IT teachers only know information about their specific unit. They FREAK out if anything else happens to do with IT and have no clue what to do. Tbh they know nothing about computers at all, minus their field.
MetKiller Joe
January 21st, 2009, 08:10 PM
This wasn't really a class, but still hilarious:
For one activity my English teacher brought the class down to the library computer stations. The librarian then set up a laptop with a projector to show the students how to use databases that the school provides to students free of charge.
I spent 5 minutes laughing at the librarian because she didn't know how to properly connect the VGA cable to the laptop 0_O then I "kindly" walked up and helped her.
After that she started the tutorial on how to use the database, and screwed up real bad, seriously it's just an info database, no one needs to have a live demonstration to figure out how to use the database for research.
Yeah, so I've always felt much smarter than the librarians at school. I also feel smarter than my math teacher as posted previously.
My librarian plays Halo 3 and has a computer science degree.
I once talked to her and we actually spent 45 minutes on game design and development.
Yeah. I guess you know what that makes me. Uber-bookworm.
dark57
January 21st, 2009, 08:20 PM
Also in computer class i tought 5 kids how to mod halo (pc not ce) :]
Donut
January 21st, 2009, 09:28 PM
i ended up doing four kid's projects in computer science last year. and finished them all in 2 days.
i slept in that class
Chainsy
January 21st, 2009, 10:26 PM
I am sorry, but I read the title as: "Have you ever been a class whore...."
Made me lol.
mech
January 22nd, 2009, 03:06 PM
You feel your smarter then the teacher? I'm in a intro to computers and info class right now and I think, on a bad day, I know more about a computer then this guy, and I had to pay upwards of $500 for this class, just to sit here for 16 weeks and listen to a monotone teacher tell me things I've known since 3rd grade....ugh.
Test out then :confused2: I tested out of all my comp classes and have a 4 grand scholarship to show for it.
Kornman00
January 22nd, 2009, 05:10 PM
If this is the case with your class, then you can use the time for other uses, to work on other homework to say the least, so you shouldn't be too upset over the fact that you're getting a credit for a class which you can do other classes homework in.
Also, I don't think you can be smarter than the teacher in every case. We don't know everything, and chances are if you pay attention there will be more than likely some subtle things which you didn't know or fully grasp.
Rob Oplawar
January 23rd, 2009, 12:37 AM
Fuck it, I dropped my stupid computer class.
I'm never gonna make it in the real world. :{
Mr Buckshot
January 23rd, 2009, 12:48 AM
Also, I don't think you can be smarter than the teacher in every case.
True, it depends on what field though. If you were comparing, say, the ability to interpret classic complicated literature, then I am probably one of the stupidest on this forum especially since English is not my first language.
I think everyone on this forum is smarter than my school librarians though ;) They think that if you change the monitor resolution it'll trigger a catastrophe throughout the network. Seriously I don't expect the average Tom Dick and Harry to know in-depth details about computer specs, but I would expect them to be more computer literate than my school librarians.
As for my IB Math HL class (which I completed a year early) it was just easy shit but my teacher just wasn't great, so I had to self-study pretty hard or I wouldn't have achieved that 7 on the IB exam. That self-studying also helped me take the AP Calculus BC exam as backup.
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