Airsoft!

[NT Studios]

Hey, I was wondering if anyone here was into Airsoft?

Here is the new AEG I just ordered:
CYMA CM028 AK-47 Fixed Stock Combo (http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=cm028-ak47-airsoft&Category_Code=High-Grade-AEGs&Store_Code=R)

http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/cyma-ak47-cm028.jpg


This is the one! There are several mid-grade AK-47's on the market but this is the one to get. It goes by several names such as "extreme" or "x-factor", but the official name is the CM028. It is compatible with Tokyo Marui parts and features a metal version III gearbox. The AEG is repairable and even upgradeable. Many of the external parts are metal, and the simulated wood stock is extremely realistic looking, you cannot tell the difference. Coming in at 280fps w/ .20g bb this AEG can easily compete against more expensive Tokyo Marui or Classic Army AEGs.
Included:

(1) CM028 AK-47 AEG
(1) 8.4v 1200mah battery (small type connector)
(1) Small type trickle charger
(1) Sling
(1) Cleaning/De-jamming rod
(1) 300 round high-cap magazine
(1) Small bag of bb's


Here is some gear I was looking into:

M18 Smoke Grenades [Yellow & Red]:
http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/gg-smoke-loader.jpg

Click me to View (http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=G-07-045&Category_Code=replica-grenades&Store_Code=R)

NCStar Tactical Red Dot w/4 Reticules
http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ncstar-d4b_scope_small.jpg

Click me to View (http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ncstar-d4b&Category_Code=airsoft_accessories_scopes&Store_Code=R)

ACU-Tactical Vest: Digital Camo
http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/acu-tactical-vest-f.jpg

Click me to View (http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=acu-tactical-vest&Category_Code=Airsoft_Accessories_Vests&Store_Code=R)

ABS plastic replica helment w/ woodland digital camo cover
http://www.kapowwe.com/images7/digital-camo_helmet.jpg

Click me to View (http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=helmet-woodland-digital&Category_Code=Airsoft_Helmets&Store_Code=R)

[ExAm]

Excellent. Unfortunately my gear consists of one Marui SPAS-12, two extra shot magazines, one broken KWA M9 with a metal slide and extra magazine, and a woodland camo jacket :v:

[NT Studios]

hehe, I might have to up the battery on this new one because the longest that lasts is an hour. So I have a lot of shopping to do -.-'

[n00b1n8R]

All I'm seeing is $$$$$$

Buy your gun, wear a bike helmet, put on some glasses AND FIGHT LIKE A MAN

[NT Studios]

All I'm seeing is $$$$$$

Buy your gun, wear a bike helmet, put on some glasses AND FIGHT LIKE A MAN
Nah, Money spending is good, it helps the Bailout and Americas protection? who wouldnt run away from a shitload of plastic BB's? :D

[ExAm]

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@NT Studios

Quick! Before a mod catches you! :v:

[NT Studios]

Phew, thanks for that, I saw him walking in with the Ban hammer

[ExAm]

bike helmet [...] LIKE A MANI'm sorry, that is just completely contradictory right there.

@NT
Protip: N00bin8r is an Aussie of the classification australius /b/tardius

LIST OF KNOWN AUSSIES
Bodzilla (australius boozius)
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Dane O'Roo (australius srs texrus)
Rossmum (australius ex-postwhorus)

[Snowy]

V8xOGmSG8dM

[Rosco]

http://www.actionhobbys.co.uk/JG-BAR-10-Sniper-Rifle-Inc-Scope-And-Rings_AI9VX.aspx

I own this rifle, it's pretty good for a springer, skirmish material either way, but I haven't got round to it yet.

I also have this
http://www.actionhobbys.co.uk/JG-M4-A1-AEG-Full-Metal_ALIN4.aspx

Both are decent guns, especially for chinese clones, I guess JG have been doing some good work. :)

I also have a .22 air rifle, but it's quite old, one of my dads.

[n00b1n8R]

Protip: N00bin8r is an Aussie of the classification australius /b/tardius
Oh, you. :downs:

[nooBBooze]

All I'm seeing is $$$$$$

Buy your gun, wear a bike helmet, put on some glasses AND FIGHT LIKE A MAN
THIS.


Here's my story
I, along with other nooblets was used as cannonfodder for two softair teams and we basically ended up on the defending site on a one flag CTF game on every turn.
Our ability to effectively hold a rifle and move in a combat situation, a result of years of experience in twodimensional warfare, was overshadowed by the fact that we were horribly underequipped. The crosshairs on our rifles were broken, automatic fire required us to inconveniently press the bottom of the clip adding to our difficutlies of aiming properly. Our camouflage was non existent although yours truly tried to wear clothing in green and brown tones so at least I was almost invisible compared to my rookie comrades in blue overalls.
So there we were, lying on the very frontline unwitting of the fact that we very indeed entering a world of pain. The enemies, faceless, quite possibly underaged and pubeless underneath their aweseome gear, were quite at ease while they slowly moved behind the trees flanking our rookiebrigade.
Baffled at their apparent carelessness -after all spotting us required no effort at all- we opened fire nonetheless, in an effort to finally kick some ass.
After a few salvos, after we finally got off of a minro adrenaline rush, not only did we fail to score even one single hit, our presumed targets, who at this point absolutely HAD to be aware of our presence, proceded as if nothing happened, ignoring us -or so we thought.
Needless to say, those spoiled brats were after our manpoints.
a few enraged salvos later it was clear that they, probably in the knowledge of the misfeatures of the boomsticks they issue the noobs, kept clear of our range of fire wich was about 10m. In the face of humiliation and verly, considerable incoming pain we stormed towards them, taking cower behind the trees. They were not going to have our manpoints without a fight.
The short skirmish that followed saw the 5 of us taken out in no time, with no casualities on their side.
I myself, was killed by friendly fire.

Fun times

[kenney001]

Hey, I was wondering if anyone here was into Airsoft?

Here is the new AEG I just ordered:
CYMA CM028 AK-47 Fixed Stock Combo (http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=cm028-ak47-airsoft&Category_Code=High-Grade-AEGs&Store_Code=R)

http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/cyma-ak47-cm028.jpg



That is the same gun I have right now. Its pretty nice, just needs a few things to keep up. You might want to invest in a nice metal magazine, because the stock one isn't very good.

Also invest in a 9.6v intellect battery. The stock 8.4 is kindof weak for the gun's power.

The stock piston is actually pretty cheap. Mine lasted a few months, but be prepared to replace it.

Other than that, This gun is very well built and I have had it for over 3 years. Oh and a homemade wood kit always looks nice.http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h94/vote1sanches/IMG_3096.jpg

[Cortexian]

Yes I'm into Airsoft, no I don't have a gay AK like everyone else and their dog.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/777/g36kcrailrds01ii8.jpg

Old bad pics of my old bad gear (It was Thanksgiving '08, and the company we had over wanted to hear about Airsoft and see all the stuff I had at the time)...
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8688/1848481imgzo2.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3225/1848488imggu8.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1050/1848489imgpl0.jpg
(Velocity reducer on the end of the outer barrel in the gear pictures, it's the thing with the red band. Had to put it on for some in-door games because the limits here are 325FPS for indoor in my city)

In addition to the gun upgrades, I have some fairly nice combat boots and a drop-leg mag dump pouch now (goes on the left leg). I'm also going to be upgrading to a GRAW-like Multi-Cam setup using the following gear (when I have money again):
http://www.dragonredairsoft.com/airsoft/armor/cpBodyArmor-2.gif

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1ptfwpjTLlg-koNN1qAejRlcldLWSwiaSb-3UwLqivDq8Pgic7bmtD-Z_dIJcOiytgQu6eZz3KLjg

[Rosco]

I dont own an AK dude, you're not the only one :p
I'm looking into the folding stock one if I do buy an AK, but I probably will be looking at gas shotties before anything else.

[Sel]

I never got this airsoft stuff, seems like it would be better to go join the army, and get paid.

[ICEE]

I never got this airsoft stuff, seems like it would be better to go join the army, and die if you actually get shot.

Its exactly the same as multiplayer fps. Its all the fun of shooting your enemies, without the fear of death.

[Rosco]

I never got this airsoft stuff, seems like it would be better to go join the army, and get paid.

My job funds my hobbies, I don't need to join something that can actually get me killed to use guns.

[n00b1n8R]

So what exactly do you fire?

[ExAm]

So what exactly do you fire?
http://capitalairsoft.ca/store/images/airsoft-bbs.jpg

[legionaire45]

I'm probably going to buy a $5 Airsoft pistol to use as an "animation reference", maybe with a matching $20 SMG.

lol.

[ExAm]

I'm probably going to buy a $5 Airsoft pistol to use as an "animation reference", maybe with a matching $20 SMG.

lol.
A $5 airsoft pistol isn't going to be a good animation reference D:
half the parts on those aren't even functional.

[n00b1n8R]

http://capitalairsoft.ca/store/images/airsoft-bbs.jpg
What is that, bean bag stuffing?

Size, weight, material details pl0x.

[ExAm]

6mm 0.2g plastic BBs with the seams polished away. 0.12g, lower grade plastic bbs with visible seams can be used in single shot spring guns, but will damage any with a more complex mechanism.

[n00b1n8R]

jesus, how fast would they have to be going to hurt O_o

[KiDD]

http://aftermathairsoft.com/rifles.aspx?productID=5

Thats mine, Great gun. So damn tough.

[Cortexian]

jesus, how fast would they have to be going to hurt O_o
Engagement distance? From 2-3 meter's against bare skin a 250+ FPS gun will most likely make a bleeder. 4-10 meters a welt or small cut. Using a gun like mine (upgraded to shoot 425 FPS) you will have the BB embeded into your skin at 2-3 meters, bleeders against bare skin from anything under 10 meters, and welts for pretty much any hit under 25 meters. The BB's are solid plastic, so they don't brake apart and loose much velocity on impact. However, guns like mine will cause the BB's to shatter if they hit a solid object under 5 meters away, usually...

[n00b1n8R]

Airsoft

sounds awesome! :gonk:

[ExAm]

This is why you typically wear loose/thick clothing when playing. With most guns you can still notice that you're being hit. The game relies on the honor system, so you yell "hit!" when one strikes you. Sometimes it depends on where you get hit. Some people play such that if you get hit in one of your limbs, you can no longer use that limb, and torso or head shots are instant kills. Most of the time a hit anywhere is a kill. Let me tell you though, knuckle shots are a bitch.

Freelancer, downgrade your gun, man! Jesus, you're just being dangerous with that hardware! :gonk:
Failing that, at least use only your sidearm at close range.

[DrunkenSamus]

It is NOT fun getting shot by an automatic gun REPEATEDLY. :gonk: the pain stays for at least 60 seconds and it is fucking excruciating to the max. :(

[SnaFuBAR]

So is this strictly airsoft or can I post my air rifle here?

[Cortexian]

Freelancer, downgrade your gun, man! Jesus, you're just being dangerous with that hardware! :gonk:
Failing that, at least use only your sidearm at close range.
I almost play exclusively outdoor, so really close encounters don't generally happen to me. If there's ever a situation where I get forced into the "interior" buildings that we generally play around I do usually switch to my pistol, it in itself shoots approx 350 FPS, haven't chronoed it recently though.

When I'm playing indoor I drop down my spring to the stock spring and add the velocity reducer.

Don't worry about my being dangerous with the hardware that I play. I don't know about where you live, but in Calgary here almost all of the games are run by members of Joint Operations Calgary (or JOC). If you're caught using a "hot" gun you are banned from playing ever again at JOC events. The entire JOC community has agreed to these FPS rules, so 425 FPS for outdoor is very common, though some people will use their 425 guns at close range as well... I recall an incedent involving a SAW that was upgraded to the limit and the player wielding it camping in a "dead-end-hallway", rounded the corner hoping to knock out anyone around there, and was hit by a hundred or so 425 FPS rounds :gonk:...

So is this strictly airsoft or can I post my air rifle here?
Can you shoot at people with it for fun legally? I don't see why not if you can...

[SnaFuBAR]

Can you shoot at people with it for fun legally? I don't see why not if you can...
Uh.... actually it shoots between 1000 and 1250 fps depending on the ammo I use. It's actually classified as lethal to around 200 yards >__> Caliber is .177, and shoots flatheads, hollowpoints, steel bb tipped "fireballs", magnums, match ammo, wadcutters, dome heads, and a variety of other ammo.

It's a fun plinker, though. Lemons and such explode. I slapped a 3-9x scope on it and some c-thru scope mounts so i could ironsight. 15 rifling grooves, right hand twist. I'll be adding a bipod to the body, a pointer to another modified mount, in line with the scope, and an eye cup and sun shade to the scope. Been shooting this rifle for... 12 or so years now.

[Rosco]

Uh.... actually it shoots between 1000 and 1250 fps depending on the ammo I use. It's actually classified as lethal to around 200 yards >__> Caliber is .177, and shoots flatheads, hollowpoints, steel bb tipped "fireballs", magnums, match ammo, wadcutters, dome heads, and a variety of other ammo.

It's a fun plinker, though. Lemons and such explode. I slapped a 3-9x scope on it and some c-thru scope mounts so i could ironsight. 15 rifling grooves, right hand twist. I'll be adding a bipod to the body, a pointer to another modified mount, in line with the scope, and an eye cup and sun shade to the scope. Been shooting this rifle for... 12 or so years now.

Love my air rifle, but it's a bitch to clean, caliber on mine is .22 :)

[SnaFuBAR]

Love my air rifle, but it's a bitch to clean, caliber on mine is .22 :)
Got a barrel cleaning rod and cleaning wads? makes it a lot easier. also, try using some gun oil for the barrel. I'm guessing you get ~800 fps.

[RobertGraham]

Arent rifles like that get 800FPS illegal anyways? BTW, this is NT Productions, lol, my username was lame

[SnaFuBAR]

Arent rifles like that get 800FPS illegal anyways? BTW, this is NT Productions, lol, my username was lame
No, and they never have been.

[Rosco]

Got a barrel cleaning rod and cleaning wads? makes it a lot easier. also, try using some gun oil for the barrel. I'm guessing you get ~800 fps.

Yea got gun oil, I use it for the JG Bar10 as well, makes the bolt smoother. :)

Never checked out the fps, and don't matter if it's illegal, I live by a beach that is usually deserted, well at least in winter. I wouldn't shoot someone with it however, air rifles are way more powerful than airsoft bbs, and bbs can be painful anyway, lol.

Also snaf, it might just be it's age, it was my dads before mine, still shoots good though, not gonna get rid of it any time soon. :cool:

[Cortexian]

Maybe not true down there Snaf, but here in Canada any thing that shoots over 450 FPS is then classified as a "firearm", and you then require a permit.

I've also got an Crossman 1077 air rifle, semi-automatic 12 round CO2 powered, 2 x 12 round clips. Also has a little 4x2 scope and an el cheapo rds.

http://www.ronniesunshines.com/images/1077%201.jpg

It's obviously to powerful for shooting at people with, and it's illegal, just like a real firearm up here. For real firearms we (my dad and I) have a Benelli 12 Gauge Semi-Automatic Shotgun, .308 Carbine, 30-30 lever action, and a .44 Mag Desert Eagle for lulz.

[SnaFuBAR]

heh, all i've got at the moment is my air rifle. i'm having a hard time picking out a real gun.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5162/220rifleca1.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1598/hunter220lj2.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5733/ironsightqi5.jpg

[Sargent_Hawk]

... I have some crappy ar-15 see-thru spring action 6MM BB rifle, all plastic, I don't know the FPS), weird mag setup, you laod the mag, pull down a spring, tilt&shake, then pop it in the gun, mag holds about 27 BBs at once. My BB pistol is 6MM also, M9 style, full metal, spring action, I can fit about 20 BBs in the mag at once with no problem, allthough it was intentioned for 15 at once.
My little brother has the fully automatic version of my BB rifle, except it gravity loads from a fake red dot.

I should be getting a better AR-15 model with fully/semi automatic, true mag fed (no shake&tilt).
Link: http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Knights-SR-16-AEG&Category_Code=&Store_Code=R
if I don't get that I'll be getting a spring action shotgun.(3 shot)
Link: http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SOFT-M3L&Category_Code=&Store_Code=R

As for real guns:
2 Disapator barrel AR-15's, Attachments: Scopes, a C-More red dot, custom grips, SOCOM stock and A2 stock(Updated, mine now has the A2 and dad has the SOCOM.), mine has a heavy barrel (originaly made for an automatic, but was never used :awesome:)
Merlin .22,(My little sister's), Scope.
Remmington 780(I think its a 780 atleast, we never bring it out to the range and never seem to talk about it...)
Guns I used to have:
2 AK-47's
2 Ruger mini 14's(folding stocks)
1 SKS(back from 1960's, in perfect condition, sadly it was sold...)
Glock 19. (was sold so we could get a Glock 30)
Glock 20(shoots a .10mm, take that you short & whimpey shooters.)
Walther P .22.
Merlin .22(second one, sold it)
Some hunting shotgun. (it's been a while, I don't remember what model or brand it was.)
I think that's all of them...

[p0lar_bear]

Just picked up a SIG-Sauer P226 by Swiss Arms for about $20 at Wal-Mart.

12-shot mag, 315 Fps (96 m/s), 25/25 accuracy, max range of 44 yds (40 m), uses the BAXS shooting system. It's spring powered, and needs to be manually cocked.

Came with a sticky gel target. Thing's already gotten pretty fucked up. :lol:

e: The magazine catch broke so I returned it for a refund.

[Warsaw]

@AK in first post: should've gone with the CM.042; it's a superior build quality, and most importantly is made of metal and actual wooden furnishings.

My loadout:

CQB:
-One used black suit
-One red tie
-Pair of old dress shoes
-One KWA Glock 23F and two spare magazines (Will be replaced soon by two WE "Ivory Grip" M1911s with the black finish removed and with rosewood grips)

Awww yeah....

Outdoors
-One authentic Soviet M34 BDU dated 1959
-One velmeschok dated 1959
-One Soviet leather "Y-harness" and matching belt (belt is dated 1991, but it hasn't changed too much over the decades)
-One G&G RK104 @ 420fps with .20g BBs, 400 with .25g (working on getting an AK-47 to match my outfit)
-SPLAV Spetsnaz boots, size 42 Russian (9 US) (I need to get some '45 jackboots)

I need to also get the appropriate 50s 3-cell magazine pouch for the AK, a grenade pouch, a canteen with pouch, a helmet or ushanka, an AK-47 bayonet (NOT AKM OR AK74!), a slabside 7.62x39mm magazine to convert to airsoft, the aforementioned AK-47, and some shellac stain to refinish the real-steel AK wooden furniture I have stashed under my bed awaiting a gun to be mounted to.

Edit: And an entrenching tool...definitely need one of those...

[ExAm]

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1598/hunter220lj2.jpg
Lol, snaf is white :v:

jk, bad pic quality mbmb

[ExAm]

bump for blasphemous construction plans:

So I found this stock, yea?
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/0307090104a.jpg

Check out how it would look attached to my baby
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/0307090104.jpg

I feel like Dr. Frankenstein :3

[n00b1n8R]

Remember what Frankenstein's monster ended up doing to him? :-3

[rossmum]

As far as I know Airsoft is illegal out here, though I seem to recall plans to change that being proposed as of late. Personally it's no biggie to me though, as the real thing is far and away superior.

[ExAm]

Personally it's no biggie to me though, as the real thing is far and away superior.
Yeah, right. Try playing a game like airsoft with real guns. Unless you're in a government sanctioned gladiator arena, you're going to jail for a very long time.

[rossmum]

Yeah, right. Try playing a game like airsoft with real guns. Unless you're in a government sanctioned gladiator arena, you're going to jail for a very long time.
Sorry I forgot, who employs me again and doing what

oh, right

[RobertGraham]

I only play airsoft for the fun. Its kind of like simple training for the Marines, at least that's what I think of it.

[n00b1n8R]

Personally it's no biggie to me though, as the real thing is far and away superior.
Yeah, getting shot at by people who want to kill you ftw!

[rossmum]

Yeah, getting shot at by people who want to kill you ftw!
not likely in the reserves

[RobertGraham]

Go Marines!

[rossmum]

uhhhh

if that was directed my way, we don't have marines here, hth

[RobertGraham]

uhhhh

if that was directed my way, we don't have marines here, hthErr, In America, land of the free, we have the Bad ass Marine Corps. I don't know where your from

[rossmum]

Well, see, all around America there are these landmasses just across the oceans. Funnily enough these have other countries in them, and not all of these worship America to the point of basing their armed forces on yours!

I live in Australia. We used to have Royal Marines way back before the turn of the 19th/20th centuries but we sadly no longer do. That said, we do have the SAS, Commando units, and even our regular army is pretty hardcore. We whooped said badarse USMC last time they came down here on exercise, poor bastards didn't have a clue about surviving in our environment :p

[RobertGraham]

Well, see, all around America there are these landmasses just across the oceans. Funnily enough these have other countries in them, and not all of these worship America to the point of basing their armed forces on yours!

I live in Australia. We used to have Royal Marines way back before the turn of the 19th/20th centuries but we sadly no longer do. That said, we do have the SAS, Commando units, and even our regular army is pretty hardcore. We whooped said badarse USMC last time they came down here on exercise, poor bastards didn't have a clue about surviving in our environment :p
It would be the same difference if you came to our environment.

Units are trained for different environments during a certain war period. The War on Terrorism for example. Most of the USMC were trained to fight on Homeland Territory and Middle East desert combat. Though, the Navy Seals are supposed to be prepared for any kind of Environment, whether its the Desert or the fucking Antarctic, they are going in.

[Bodzilla]

the aussies have always had a reputation for fighting well beyond our numbers and in terrible conditions though :p
Rats of tuebrook, kokoda trail to name a few.

we dont have the numbers, so we make up for it with tactics :eng101:
i remember a doco on vietnam and the difference between the aussie and american forces.

We basically said you bitcheZ be Crazy

[rossmum]

When push comes to shove I'd go out and say that the US largely relies on a mix of tech and numbers, whereas the British and the forces offshot from theirs (Canadian, Australian, etc.) tend to fight incredibly hard but with far lesser numbers and usually with inferior kit. If I was to assemble a 'dream team' army, I'd have us lot up the spearhead, with the US in support, not the other way around. We get a lot more training, I think I read somewhere that our regular training is on par with the lower-level SF stuff you guys have.

Different forces, different priorities, I guess

[Bodzilla]

When push comes to shove I'd go out and say that the US largely relies on a mix of tech and numbers, whereas the British and the forces offshot from theirs (Canadian, Australian, etc.) tend to fight incredibly hard but with far lesser numbers and usually with inferior kit. If I was to assemble a 'dream team' army, I'd have us lot up the spearhead, with the US in support, not the other way around. We get a lot more training, I think I read somewhere that our regular training is on par with the lower-level SF stuff you guys have.

Different forces, different priorities, I guess
australia, fuck yeah.
hi five y/n?

o/

[rossmum]

\o

By the way, they're gonna see if they can get me enlisted by mid May, wootles

e/ lel whoops this got a bit derailed

[TVTyrant]

We Americans just love to bomb stuff and then run it over with our tanks. I don't have an opinion on the Challenger-II vs. Abrams thing, but I'm pretty sure America has more Abrams than England, Australia, Canada, and all the British based forces have Challengers combined xD So maybe America should go support, but we just have so many dudes, plus we actually use our forces :rolleyes:

[Bodzilla]

I DONT UNDERSTAND FACTS WHEN THEY CONTRADICT MY VIEW

oh hai.

[rossmum]

We Americans just love to bomb stuff and then run it over with our tanks. I don't have an opinion on the Challenger-II vs. Abrams thing, but I'm pretty sure America has more Abrams than England, Australia, Canada, and all the British based forces have Challengers combined xD So maybe America should go support, but we just have so many dudes, plus we actually use our forces :rolleyes:
Yeah, the Chally is technically superior but it means sweet fuck all when there's about 100 of them (may actually be less, I honestly can't remember but it was a tiny number)

[Xetsuei]

This isn't a "My Country's Army is Better Than Yours" thread, thanks.

As far as guns go, I have

http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/jgsystan.jpg
JG M4 S-System in black and tan.

http://www.shortyusa.com/cart/images/1359.jpg
UTG MK96 Spring Sniper Rifle in digital camo.

http://www.shortyusa.com/cart/images/1486.jpg
Two KWC Desert Eagles CO2 (on mine the clip is longer and they're two tone colored)

[RobertGraham]

IMO, the way we win is we over run them with Tanks and airplanes, and then they are like, O fuck, America's here, we better get the hell out before their Aussie and brit friends get here and destroy us with their morale. We all win.

[rossmum]

This isn't a "My Country's Army is Better Than Yours" thread, thanks.
I never actually said we were better overall, thanks.

[Xetsuei]

I never actually said we were better overall, thanks.

You know what I meant; don't nit pick.

[rossmum]

I don't have nits, what are you implying sir

[TVTyrant]

IM A DICK WHO CANT TAKE A JOKE.
Cool story bro.

Also, I'm loving that M4 with the black and tan. I'm thinking of getting an AK-103 with a similar finish on it.

[ExAm]

Still gotta drill a little more out of the grip so it fits up there nice and snug. http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/0307092307.jpg

[p0lar_bear]

I want an airsoft handgun that can come as close as possible to a "toy replica" as it can. That P226 I returned is a good example: it had a full-sized magazine, a hammer that cocked when the slide was pulled (though it was just for looks; it wasn't part of the firing mechanism), and it would have also had a working slide lock if the notch in the slide was just a few centimeters back more. However, it was manual; I had to pull the slide each time to fire it.

All of the CO2-powered airsoft handguns in stores around here sacrifice something for semiauto fire, usually the magazine (either making it as small as the pellets or nixing it altogether for a revolver mechanism inside the slide) and blowback. I'm wondering if there is a CO2-powered handgun that's a faithful replica, or if that's asking too much. If that's the case, how well do electric airsoft handguns perform, and if they're decent, do they suffer from the same redesigns as a CO2 one?

[ExAm]

Green gas airsoft guns are about as close as you'll get. This one's full metal, full size magazine, the hammer is functional and a part of the firing mechanism, and it works and disassembles in the same way as the real thing:
L2LkD5V5mIw
i've got the same gun, but the version with only a metal slide.

[p0lar_bear]

I want that bad now.

Though I'd probably get shot if someone saw me with it around here. :v:

[ExAm]

Add more orange paint to the front end :downs:

[rossmum]

Paint the whole thing orange :downs:

[n00b1n8R]

Paint flames on it so it looks like it's firing faster than it is. :downs:

[rossmum]

Nah bro you want a racing stripe for that

[Bodzilla]

dont forget some neons and spinners.
also hang some purple dice off the trigger and ur all set baby.

[Cortexian]

Green gas airsoft guns are the only way to go when it comes to pistols.
ftfy.

Airsoft springer and electric blow backs are simply inferior to a good gas blow back, in almost every way that matters.

[RobertGraham]

ftfy.

Airsoft springer and electric blow backs are simply inferior to a good gas blow back, in almost every way that matters.
Agreed. They are more powerful.

P.S. do not use them in cold weather, they jam up

[Warsaw]

They also jam up if you fire them too fast on some models...usually the ones with a high-flow valve.

[TVTyrant]

dont forget some neons and spinners.
also hang some purple dice off the trigger and ur all set baby.
Screw the dice man, its all about the truck nuts!

[TeeKup]

Screw the dice man, its all about the truck nuts!
http://www.bumpernuts.com/IMG_0126.JPG

That is THE most retarded vehicle accessory ever conceived.

[Spartan094]

ew wtf, it IS the dumbest vehicle accessory ever

[RobertGraham]

Is that silly putty hanging off the back? :awesome:

[PenGuin1362]

...Anyway.

D-boys AK-74u Real wood grip, steal receiver/stock/magazine.
400fps
$130 :)

been through 3 games with it and a few backyard skirmishes, shoots like a champ.



Oh and a 1945 Mosin nagant M44 carbine and Can't recall the model but a remington shotgun...>_>

[Warsaw]

AKS-74Us are often more accurate than M4s in the airsoft world...I find it hilarious and ironic considering how much of a piece the real 74U was.


2000 posts, yay.

[ExAm]

Oh sup. Finished my stockmod:
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/0315091559.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/0315091559a.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/0315091558.jpg

No, it's not just taped on. The tape is covering the screwed-in erector set piece and the two nails I used as pins to hold it in place.

[rossmum]

You should've tried for a snug joint, that doesn't look too good. It may be as solid as anything, but it doesn't look like it.

[Rentafence]

Looks a bit far from the trigger, is that comfortable to shoot?

[ExAm]

I tried, but if I had drilled any further backward, I would have drilled out of the back of the grip. It was the closest I could get. It's fine to shoot.

[rossmum]

This is where improvisation comes in handy.

http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-science.gif

[Cortexian]

Get something to fill the gap with, no idea what to suggest though.

I just got owned at an indoor game by some guy wielding a Hell Kitty (http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ProductDetail?prodID=25883):
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/RWC-SG-HELLK-L.jpg

Bitch packs a wallop, and I fucking want one.

(this is not a joke)

[t3h m00kz]

wow.

[p0lar_bear]

Clocking in at 5 minutes of laughing nearly non-stop at just how ridiculous that is.

e: Found this while rooting through my images earlier. Part of a series of PMs between me, snaf, and a few others. That's the P226 I had mentioned earlier in the thread.

wAt up wit ya?
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p119/p0lar_bear/problembre.jpg

[ICEE]

I don't airsoft much. When I do, its mostly non competitively with a few friends. I don't own a gun, I just borrow my friend's shitty awesome one. It is a broken modified m16, with the barrel snapped off shortened. It holds 600 bbs and is literally held together by electrical tape. A bad ass piece of shit hardware. pics shall be posted when i got em

[Cortexian]

wAt uP wiTH YeA!?
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5905/p0larbearisgoingdown.jpg


OVERKILL, KILL, Kill, kill... /echo
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6319/p0larbeargotraped.jpg

[ThePlague]

Hmm.
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn64/Hazard1337/0402092049a.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn64/Hazard1337/0402092049.jpg

[SnaFuBAR]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3220/watbrepo6.jpg
we can get inna some gangsta shit sup wit ya bre!?

[ExAm]

OVERKILL, KILL, Kill, kill... /echo
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6319/p0larbeargotraped.jpg

...x10^42
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/0402092106.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/0402092108.jpg

[Cortexian]

Quite you, my fully automatic assault rifle beats your scoped shotgun!

Snaf, remove your finger from that trigger! That is a REAL firearm! (I think). Also, clean that shit, holy fuck.

[t3h m00kz]

I got somethin bett4 than airsoft bre

U bEst stEp b4ck bre

[Cortexian]

I got somethin bett4 than airsoft bre

U bEst stEp b4ck bre

E: fucking hold up out of focus
There are no pictures in this post, I think you forgot something.

[t3h m00kz]

I was trying to get a better picture of the label but couldn't

It's a Nyko Perfect Shot, fuckin gangsta shit for WiiQuake

[Bodzilla]

u WANNA GO BRAH

[Rentafence]

O'all yall stop dis er im gonna end U all

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/rentafence/Misc/picture_002.jpg

[SnaFuBAR]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4571/hellnobrear6.jpg
wat? bes step bak be-i-otch!

[Chainsy]

Holy fuck, Snafubar I didn't know you were a fucking wookie, jesus that hair on your hand looks like my pubes.

[teh lag]

Holy fuck, Snafubar I didn't know you were a fucking wookie, jesus that hair on your hand looks like my pubes.

... :lmao:

There are so many things I want to point out with that sentence but I'm just going to keep laughing.

[Rentafence]

Niga aint you got some hanzo steel?

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/rentafence/Misc/picture.jpg

[SnaFuBAR]

what u want a shank fight holmes?

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7175/swardshomehnr0.jpg

[Rentafence]

Bresef my shank is shrapnel

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/rentafence/Misc/0403091913.jpg

[t3h m00kz]

U tryin ice meh? wut now bre?

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu308/m00kz/selfbre.jpg

[ICEE]

bitches fuckin round on my turf? got notha thang commin
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z295/iron_clad_photo/general%20stuff/mace.jpg

[RobertGraham]

This is Airsoft Thread, Ninja's

[p0lar_bear]

Oh god what have I done :gonk:

[Cortexian]

Ranger Shrapnel Superiority, Brah!

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2927/rangedfrag.jpg
(Real grenade beats real guns/airsoft guns/wii guns/knives/swords)

[t3h m00kz]

lol I dare you to pull the trigger.

"i told u i was hardcore"

[Rentafence]

Ah this is the best thread ever.

[RobertGraham]

Shoot it

[Donut]

iv got a super 9 bolt action spring rifle. shoots .2g and .25g at ~350 fps.
cant get a pic atm
oh, and this:
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s277/TheKillerDonut/P1000390.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s277/TheKillerDonut/P1000391.jpg
everything is functional. its spring powered, the drum spins when you pull the trigger, shells come out, and pulling the hammer back cocks it. not double action though, and the fps sucks so much. i thought it was going to be awesome when i bought it. i can barely hit anyone with it. mmm... at least i can still shoot myself with it :woot:

[Cortexian]

Just got back from a small 20 person outdoor game, did some MilSim as well as some Skirmish games. All-in-all it was a pretty awesome game except for the melting knee-waist deep snow which was on almost all of the fields. The snow made for some rough maneuvering and advancing (or retreating) but it was pretty fun. Guns are drying off now:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3535/dryingoff.jpg

I broke my vertical foregrip about half way through the games, I don't know how.

[Amit]

And how do I convince my parents to let me buy one of these things?

[Cortexian]

And how do I convince my parents to let me buy one of these things?
Well since you're in Canada like me, you wait until you're 18 like the rest of us and then you buy it.

Also, it's illegal to import, sell, or trade airsoft guns in Canada *cough*, but if you do get one it's perfectly legal to own without any kind of permit.

Makes hella sense right? Also, get the Crossman clone of the Marui M3 shorty from Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444331 1039&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672319&bmUID=1238896803964&deptid=1408474396672192&ctgrid=1408474396672205&subctgrid=1408474396672319). A guy had one on the field today to test it out and it was pretty awesome, he spray painted the clear sections black and it looked 90% legit. I don't see why you couldn't convince your parents to let you buy a gun that's half clear from Canadian Tire.

[Joshflighter]

Hey, I bought that same one from Canadian tire.

I also got a small handgun air soft, but Im to lazy to get pics of them...

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn159/Joshflighter/DSC00153.jpg

I got my lazy ass up. :)

[Newbkilla]

Lawl. Nice starwars :)

[Joshflighter]

Nvm, most people dont know the diff between Star Trek and Starwars...

[RobertGraham]

Lawl. Nice starwars :)

There is a big difference in Star Wars and Star Trek buddy

[Amit]

Well since you're in Canada like me, you wait until you're 18 like the rest of us and then you buy it.

Also, it's illegal to import, sell, or trade airsoft guns in Canada *cough*, but if you do get one it's perfectly legal to own without any kind of permit.

Makes hella sense right? Also, get the Crossman clone of the Marui M3 shorty from Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444331 1039&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672319&bmUID=1238896803964&deptid=1408474396672192&ctgrid=1408474396672205&subctgrid=1408474396672319). A guy had one on the field today to test it out and it was pretty awesome, he spray painted the clear sections black and it looked 90% legit. I don't see why you couldn't convince your parents to let you buy a gun that's half clear from Canadian Tire.

Uh...I don't doubt what you've said, I'm just wondering why you can still buy them on Canadian websites...and Canadian Tire? WTF. My dad says I'm gonna become a terrorist just because I play Halo and COD4. And I always play as the good guys! :lol:


Nvm, most people dont know the diff between Star Trek and Starwars...

There is a big difference in Star Wars and Star Trek buddy

I believe he means the awesome collection of star wars games?

[Cortexian]

Uh...I don't doubt what you've said, I'm just wondering why you can still buy them on Canadian websites...and Canadian Tire? WTF.
I should have been more clear, sorry. You can't import/sell/trade "all black" airsoft guns like the ones I have. All airsoft guns now require certain components to be clear plastic to make it into Canada. Here are the best legally importable/sellable/tradeable airsoft guns in Canada:

M4/M16 series (http://007airsoft.com/products/htm/aeg-gg-m16.htm)

H&K Series (http://007airsoft.com/products/htm/aeg-gg-hk.htm)

Various Pistols (http://007airsoft.com/products/htm/gas-kjw.htm)

I highly recommend buying from 007airsoft, Ken is a great guy and he'll break his back trying to help you out. He won't sell to anyone under 18 though, as is the situation with most reputable airsoft dealers in Canada.

[Joshflighter]

I was wondering, would spray paint work to get it black? :o

[Warsaw]

Yes, but it still won't have that metallic feel. If you don't mind that, then you're fine.

[Cortexian]

I was wondering, would spray paint work to get it black? :o
If you mainly want realism your best bet would be to get a gun that uses plastic in it already, that way you can use Krylon spray paint to blend it fairly well. I'd recommend waiting until you're 18, then you can sign up and get age verified on Airsoft Canada to access the Buy/Sell forums.


Yes, but it still won't have that metallic feel. If you don't mind that, then you're fine.
That all depends on how good of a painter you are, you could certainly do a multi-coat paint job that gets close to gun metal. Obviously it still won't look genuine though.

[Joshflighter]

Yea, I was thinking about spray painting it....

Where I live, we have this military supplier kind of store, and it sales a bunch of Airsofts and paintball weapons that are black and realistic looking. Only problem is, that they cost so damn much.... (durr)

[Warsaw]

If you mainly want realism your best bet would be to get a gun that uses plastic in it already, that way you can use Krylon spray paint to blend it fairly well. I'd recommend waiting until you're 18, then you can sign up and get age verified on Airsoft Canada to access the Buy/Sell forums.


That all depends on how good of a painter you are, you could certainly do a multi-coat paint job that gets close to gun metal. Obviously it still won't look genuine though.

Coat of chrome paint and then some black will get you that metallic look. However, plastic will never have that cold feel that metal gives you when you pick it up, which is what I was getting at.

[Cortexian]

Coat of chrome paint and then some black will get you that metallic look. However, plastic will never have that cold feel that metal gives you when you pick it up, which is what I was getting at.
You know what mister? This is what i think about you brah:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6398/g36machinepistol01.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9476/g36machinepistol02.jpg
I was working on my gun and was trying to make a "test build" so i didn't have to rebuild my whole gun for a few test shots... Then I realized this would never work because:


The BB's just flew up from the mag and through the magwell when I inserted the mag (rep to whoever helps me pick them all up off my floor...).
No hop-up or barrel assembly means nothing to hold the BB's in place, and no way to test for accuracy and such.

I also removed the beanie babies/stuffed animals (heh, fuck you) from that one display case and made it better:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5711/airsoftdisplay.jpg

Airsoft stuff ordered today (to fill up my display case, obviously):
STAR Auto-Winding 2500rd S-MAG (http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/star-2500rd-s-mag-hi-cap-magazine-for-g36-series-aeg.html)
Box of five 95rd Magazine's for G36 (http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms-95rd-magazine-for-g36-series-aeg-5pcs.html)
7500 .20g BB's (Gotta feed those mags!)
Another black vertical fore grip...

[BobtheGreatII]

Lol, I was about to make a post about how silly it was that you had all that stuff in a case. But then I read your post about how it was filled with beanie babies.

[RobertGraham]

Removing the Beanie babies was a crucial step of his process

[Joshflighter]

That's awesome.

Making me jealous...

[Cortexian]

How is it silly, lol, airsoft guns look bitchin. However you're right, main objective was to remove beanie babies.

Bottom of post edited with new stuff that I ordered, should be here next week month.

E: All you guys that have PM'ed me about getting into airsoft/buying guns, get JG (Jing Gong) G36's as your first guns, they're fucking awesome price:performance ratio guns. And they're Mauri compatible, which means you can upgrade them a lot. Plus, I can help you guys out with maintinence/upgrades/mods since all G36's are built the same.

[Rentafence]

So I just got my CYMA 035. Fucking awesome, full metal and real wood foregrip.

[Cortexian]

So I just got my CYMA 035. Fucking awesome, full metal and real wood foregrip.
Yea, the real wood is a nice touch on those. I hate AK-47's and all their variants though, so :gtfo:.

[Amit]

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5711/airsoftdisplay.jpg


Oh my fucking god. That was my first expression when I saw your display case. For two reasons, of course:

1. Cleansed display case of beanies...:ugh:
2. Your equipment looks so fucking badass in there.

[Cortexian]

The bottom should be filled out when my shipment of new stuff gets here... However I need to find a way to store the auto-winding drum mag I ordered in there... I'm probably going to build a shelf system that allows for some extra storage to the right of the G36's barrel/front grip area.

[Amit]

I'm probably going to build a shelf system that allows for some extra storage to the right of the G36's barrel/front grip area.

That's exactly what I was going to tell you to do lol.

[Joshflighter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipq7ZYSN36Y

lawl.

[Cortexian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipq7ZYSN36Y

lawl.
God you're bad. You should have at least got a semi-auto instead of a spring loader.

"Canadian Tire, that's in Canada"

Also, shoot it at your hand, I'm making a video right now of me shooting myself with my CanTire junk... Coming soon...
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/773/cantireairsoft.jpg

[Joshflighter]

:(

How much does that stuff cost?

Edit: They dont even have an auto where I live. Lmao. :|

Edit again: Found this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUjqFxuY4R4

[rossmum]

airsoft is for girly men

real men shoot .303

~flies away~

[Cortexian]

airsoft is for girly men

real men shoot .303

~flies away~
You have fun with your .303 and I'll stick with my .308 *cough*7.62*cough*.

~shoots you down~

Also, Fear1337:
i2MDXXJhWW8

DO IT!

Sorry for Mr. Blurrycam.

[Joshflighter]

Your gun looks so much cheaper then myn. D:

[Cortexian]

Your gun looks so much cheaper then myn. D:
They shoot the same tbh.

[SnaFuBAR]

PUSSY PISTOL

[Cortexian]

PUSSY PISTOL
Snaf, shoot yourself with your real gun in the hand on camera! Lets see if it will penetrate skin!

[Warsaw]

How is it silly, lol, airsoft guns look bitchin. However you're right, main objective was to remove beanie babies.

Bottom of post edited with new stuff that I ordered, should be here next week month.

E: All you guys that have PM'ed me about getting into airsoft/buying guns, get JG (Jing Gong) G36's as your first guns, they're fucking awesome price:performance ratio guns. And they're Mauri compatible, which means you can upgrade them a lot. Plus, I can help you guys out with maintinence/upgrades/mods since all G36's are built the same.

I have to disagree with you there, since any of the DBOYS or CYMA full-metal AKs have a vaster array of parts to choose from, which makes them a little more n00b-friendly than the G36. For someone just starting, I'd recommend an AR variant, MP5, or AK, since those have the most aftermarket parts to choose from. The biggest thing though is having either a Version 2 or 3 gearbox, since those are the easiest to work with.

[Cortexian]

I have to disagree with you there, since any of the DBOYS or CYMA full-metal AKs have a vaster array of parts to choose from, which makes them a little more n00b-friendly than the G36. For someone just starting, I'd recommend an AR variant, MP5, or AK, since those have the most aftermarket parts to choose from. The biggest thing though is having either a Version 2 or 3 gearbox, since those are the easiest to work with.
Sure the MP5/AR/AK's have more accessories and parts available, but the G36 is an incredibly well put together airsoft rifle as long as you get something on part with JG or better. It's a little harder to track down G36 parts and accessories I agree, but it's well worth it since they're very tough guns. I've fallen onto my G36K, thrown it off a 20'~ cliff onto rocks after tripping, swung it into a tree trying to 180 to engage, and it still works like new.

[Warsaw]

Point there. I'm not sure how durable those AKs are. I'm willing to bet though that the DBoys is as durable as a VFC AK (except maybe in the folding stock) though, since it is steel and it is a replica of the VFC take.

[Cortexian]

Plus there's that (disgustingly ugly looking) mag well adapter that lets you use M4/AR-15/M16 magazines in your G36. So if you really want team play you can fall in with the ARFags.

[Warsaw]

Lol, ARFags...at least I'm not the only one who thinks that.

[ExAm]

Is this about how many people gravitate towards AR-15 based guns?

[Str1d3r_V_C0r3]

My airsoft guns are single action as I can't afford those automatic gas operated types. I have an AK-47 and an SIG P226.

[ExAm]

Please tell me you are someone else satirizing Strider and are not actually Strider who has come here again to taint this place with his presence.

[Str1d3r_V_C0r3]

Please get back on topic ;) I'm trying to turn over a new leaf here, bro. Anyway, do you know where I can grab an electric or gas airsoft gun for cheap? It's not much fun when you have to re-cock the gun after every one shot.

[Warsaw]

www.airsoftgi.com

www.evike.com

www.airsoftextreme.com

Those are the best three websites to look at, and have the largest selections in the United States. If you are Canadian, then god damnit, I'm too tired to go and look for Canadian sites...

[Cortexian]

If you are Canadian, then god damnit
Your sentence should have just ended there tbh, it's stupid hard to find retailers in Canada. Your best bet would be:

www.007airsoft.com (http://www.007airsoft.com)
or
www.capitalairsoft.ca (http://www.capitalairsoft.ca)

They're the only two retailers bringing Canadian legal "CanSoft" at the moment. Basically certain parts need to be clear when they're imported to get past customs, orange tips won't do it.

For example:
http://007airsoft.com/products/product-images/10201.jpg
(Has Canadian trades though, p nifty when painted black)

Pistol:
http://007airsoft.com/products/product-images/20077.jpg
(Lower is "tinted black" clear plastic)

Simple paint job with black Krylon spray paint usually fixes up the clear jobs nicely.

[Warsaw]

Paint with chrome paint and then flat or semi-gloss black to get metal-ish look. I've seen it done to an older (heavily modified internally) CYMA .028 AK, and it turned out pretty well.

Are metal receivers even available in Canada?

[Cortexian]

Paint with chrome paint and then flat or semi-gloss black to get metal-ish look. I've seen it done to an older (heavily modified internally) CYMA .028 AK, and it turned out pretty well.

Are metal receivers even available in Canada?
Yes they are, up until this year airsoft was simply frowned upon and you could import them with a restricted class import permit (thee classes, non-restricted, restricted, prohibited). There are A LOT of used guns and parts floating around, and there are quite a few people who just drive down to the US and smuggle the stuff through customs. We just don't tell the newbies that so they don't try it and fail.

Hear that Fear1337? Don't drive to the U.S. and fail at smuggling and ruin it for the rest of us, kthx.

As for the firearms permit types, here's a description of each:



Non-restricted firearms are ordinary rifles and shotguns, other than those referred to below.

Restricted firearms include:


handguns that are not prohibited;
semi-automatic, centre-fire rifles and shotguns with a barrel shorter than 470 mm (about 18.5 inches);
rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm (about 26 inches); and
firearms restricted by Criminal Code Regulations (http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/pol-leg/code-eng.htm).

Prohibited firearms include:


handguns with a barrel length of 105 mm (about 4.14 inches) or less and handguns that discharge .25 or .32 calibre ammunition, except for a few specific ones used in International Shooting Union competitions;
rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm (about 18 inches) or their overall length is less than 660 mm (about 26 inches);
full automatics;
converted automatics, namely full automatics that have been altered so that they fire only one projectile when the trigger is squeezed; and
firearms prohibited by Criminal Code Regulations (http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/pol-leg/code-eng.htm).



These don't pertain at all to airsoft, but airsoft is a "gray area" in Canadian law. They're not "firearms", they're not "replica firearms" (replica firearms are defined as replicas that are non-functional), and they're not "airguns"... It's really quite confusing when you get down into it, the easiest way to do it is just ignore the stupid laws and be responsible with your airsoft guns.

[Joshflighter]

Hear that Fear1337? Don't drive to the U.S. and fail at smuggling and ruin it for the rest of us, kthx.




Oh I see how this is going to go. :mad:

[Warsaw]

Technically they should be airguns, because they use air to propel the projectile...at least for electrics.

[ExAm]

Gas guns are still airguns, they use pressurized gas (air also being a gas), rather than explosive agents.

[Cortexian]

Well, technically a "springer" airsoft gun is an airgun. The concept behind airsoft isn't using a solid opbject to fire the BB's, it's using compressed air to fire them. No AEG that I know of fires the BB by hitting it with a piston/cylinder head or whatever. There's an air nozzle connected to it that compressess the air as it's forces towards the BB and then expelled once enough pressure builds up.

[ExAm]

Where did I mention any sort of solid object?

[Cortexian]

Where did I mention any sort of solid object?
Did I quote you? No.

[ExAm]

You didn't quote anyone. Generally when i see a post without a quote below mine, I assume they are responding to me, because they didn't see fit to add a quote. When you respond to someone who isn't the immediate previous poster, it helps to quote to avoid confusion.

[Cortexian]

You didn't quote anyone. Generally when i see a post without a quote below mine, I assume they are responding to me, because they didn't see fit to add a quote. When you respond to someone who isn't the immediate previous poster, it helps to quote to avoid confusion.
I could say the same thing about not quoting to avoid confusion. :downs:

[rossmum]

You have fun with your .303 and I'll stick with my .308 *cough*7.62*cough*.
aww man 7.62x51 how hardcore

you do know i fully intend to purchase a 1903, a 98k and a 91/30 at some point, right? 7.62x63, 7.62x54r and 7.92x57 respectively?

watch who you mock boy :snafubar:

e/ airsoft still illegal in australia, in other news, government is utterly retarded

more at six

[ExAm]

I could say the same thing about not quoting to avoid confusion. :downs:
Good sir that makes absolutely no sense at all and is preposterous. :frogout:

[Warsaw]

aww man 7.62x51 how hardcore

you do know i fully intend to purchase a 1903, a 98k and a 91/30 at some point, right? 7.62x63, 7.62x54r and 7.92x57 respectively?

watch who you mock boy :snafubar:

e/ airsoft still illegal in australia, in other news, government is utterly retarded

more at six

Real men fire .700 Nitro Express...:v:.

http://www.haluze.cz/fotky/big/kanon-2.jpg1.980747.jpg


Gas guns are still airguns, they use pressurized gas (air also being a gas), rather than explosive agents.

Air refers to the mixture you and I breathe in on a regular basis...unless you happen to be inhaling silicone-impregnated, low-PSI propane...:jibbly:

[Cortexian]

Air refers to the mixture you and I breathe in on a regular basis...unless you happen to be inhaling silicone-impregnated, low-PSI propane...:jibbly:
Educate yourself. (http://airsoft-innovations.com/art1.html)

Most "Green Gas" isn't even infused with any silicon based oil apparently, it's better to just do what they suggest and grab the propane adapter + light silicon oil. It is very oily.

[Warsaw]

Over here it is. All green gas in the US has silicone impregnated into it. I've never seen a can of Green that doesn't have it, and most indoor airsoft fields ban the use of propane. :snafubar:

[Cortexian]

Wow... All they're doing is commercializing on overpriced propane then because it's exactly the same... Did you look at the lab results they posted?! Some Green gas is mated with silicon oil, but most of it isn't.

Either way, it's cheaper to use propane, and not any more dangerous.

[Warsaw]

Yes, well, I live in America, where a large number of the population are paranoid freaks who like a government which holds their hands and tells them what is "safe." At least in VA, every 'green gas' can has silicone oil in it, evidenced by the slick substance left behind on every single GBB after firing. and because everybody supposedly gets it from the same importer, it's all got the same mixture.

Personally, I would like to use propane, but I'm not keen on getting banned from my local field for doing so.

[ExAm]

The only green gas you can buy in my area has silicone in it.

[Amit]

Yes, well, I live in America, where a large number of the population are paranoid freaks who like a government which holds their hands and tells them what is "safe." At least in VA, every 'green gas' can has silicone oil in it, evidenced by the slick substance left behind on every single GBB after firing. and because everybody supposedly gets it from the same importer, it's all got the same mixture.

Personally, I would like to use propane, but I'm not keen on getting banned from my local field for doing so.

We live in Canada where you can't even legally buy airsoft guns. You have to weasel your way around the rules.

[Warsaw]

The only green gas you can buy in my area has silicone in it.

Exactly, because all the green gas comes from the same source.

@Amit: but once you do get them, it's easier to power them...:haw:.

Indoor fields get shut down if they have people using off the shelf propane in their guns. Ridiculous really.

[Cortexian]

You didn't read the article I linked did you?...

Anyways, it's really easy to use the Airsoft Innovations propane kit, and you honestly don't even need to oil it every 8 mag fills, more like every 15.

[ExAm]

Exactly, because all the green gas comes from the same source.Actually they have several brands One's made in the US, the others in korea or some place. All with silicone.

Korean/foreign green gas cans are known for their copious spelling errors. The US can was only slightly better, sadly.

[Warsaw]

Same importer, not same manufacturer. That importer has requirements that must be met, due to Federal law, hence silicone in them.

[Cortexian]

You guys have laws that make sense about Airsoft.

/jealous

[Cortexian]

Worthy of bump.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6080/101627781yh4dybkydsc706.jpg
(I like this variation more, will build one of my own when I have the cash)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1480/106160082d6hrogq1dsc402.jpg

More Sex Here. (http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsoft/shpdinfinitychrome)

[ExAm]

*jizz*
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-87796159854445_2050_3440622
FFFFF. $250.

[Cortexian]

That's disgusting! :downs:

[rossmum]

Worthy of bump.

More Sex Here. (http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsoft/shpdinfinitychrome)
TRUE OPERATOR DETECTED

ugh seriously what is so fucking wrong with a good old 1911 with its original finish and grips, why are people so obsessed with stupidly large guns covered in either chrome or gold plating

[Cortexian]

TRUE OPERATOR DETECTED

ugh seriously what is so fucking wrong with a good old 1911 with its original finish and grips, why are people so obsessed with stupidly large guns covered in either chrome or gold plating
Because it's for CAPS style shooting and looks badass? It's not a practical to use during an operation and I never would use it during an operation...

L2Sport Shoot.

With that in mind, does it not look badass?

[Rentafence]

Because it's for CAPS style shooting and looks badass? It's not a practical to use during an operation and I never would use it during an operation...

L2Sport Shoot.

With that in mind, does it not look badass?

Random bevels and extrudes =\= detail. Crappy model.
jokes nigger

[Cortexian]

Random bevels and extrudes =\= detail. Crappy model.
jokes nigger
I'm a white boy, gosh.
I'LL EXTRUDE YOU IF YOU DON'T STFU!

[rossmum]

Because it's for CAPS style shooting and looks badass? It's not a practical to use during an operation and I never would use it during an operation...

L2Sport Shoot.

With that in mind, does it not look badass?
no, it looks gaudy and horrible http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-colbert.gif

[Cortexian]

no, it looks gaudy and horrible http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-colbert.gif
Each to their own I guess. I just don't want to be using a plain-old 1911 while doing CAPS shooting.

[Warsaw]

Infinity doesn't look that terrible...I'm just not a fan of rails on pistols, though Glock pulls it off nicely.

@ExAm: Beretta? Srsly? Ew. :p

[Cortexian]

Well, I've found that LAM's make pistoling a dream. And you can't add a LAM without a rail.

This build I'm looking at is going to cost around $1400 as it stands... I'm talking with a guy from the Airsoft Canada website about a custom build (since he's the best with these things).

[ExAm]

@ExAm: Beretta? Srsly? Ew. :pHey, fuck you. The Tetragrammaton M9 is godly.

[rossmum]

Well, I've found that LAM's make pistoling a dream. And you can't add a LAM without a rail.

This build I'm looking at is going to cost around $1400 as it stands... I'm talking with a guy from the Airsoft Canada website about a custom build (since he's the best with these things).
You're willing to pay more for an airsoft gun than the real thing?

:ohdear:

[ExAm]

Doesn't anyone else find it really strange that many of our most popular threads were (IIRC) originally started (in their V1 form) by banned members we considered annoying?

[Amit]

Doesn't anyone else find it really strange that many of our most popular threads were (IIRC) originally started (in their V1 form) by banned members we considered annoying?

Mostly annoying and not many that acted fucking retarded.

[n00b1n8R]

You're willing to pay more for an airsoft gun than the real thing?

:ohdear:
You can shoot people with the fake one :downs:

[rossmum]

oh :downs:

[Rentafence]

Doesn't anyone else find it really strange that many of our most popular threads were (IIRC) originally started (in their V1 form) by banned members we considered annoying?

It's because Modacity is like a tick, surviving off the blood of it's host. Our nourishment is the new people who join and create the spark that keeps the flame going, until he's banned and the process starts again.

[Alwin Roth]

I don't know what this game is called, but whenever we airsoft

we have about 6 runners, and 6 shooters, the point is:

the runner's have to make it across a field to the shed, when the runner touches the shed, he/she is safe.

The shooter, is behind a fence, and shoots the runners

the first 4 runners that make it to the shed get to be shooters, while the last 2 runners still are runners

3 shooters became runners depending how the line is set up.

What exactly is this game called?

[Warsaw]

Retarded, that's what it's called. That's no game at all, just sounds like some shitty plan so a bunch of friends can team up against a group they don't like and have at them without having to worry about return fire.

[SnaFuBAR]

You're willing to pay more for an airsoft gun than the real thing?

:ohdear:
this is why i never got into airsoft. the prices are not justified in the least bit.

[p0lar_bear]

Simulations: pay probably 20x more to do something without fearing death or debilitating injury.

[Cortexian]

You're willing to pay more for an airsoft gun than the real thing?

:ohdear:


You can shoot people with the fake one :downs:


oh :downs:
Well, you can also shoot people with the real one, it's just usually illegal... :rolleyes:




this is why i never got into airsoft. the prices are not justified in the least bit.


Simulations: pay probably 20x more to do something without fearing death or debilitating injury.
This.

Also, it would cost probably 2-3 times more than my quoted build price to build a real steel version here in Canada. Since the mid-frames are restricted items and I'd have to pay for it + get it smuggled in.

You U.S. people have it easy with your awesome gun laws. Concealed carry permits ftw.

[rossmum]

*not a us person*

*can buy a lee-enfield for $150, mint*

*owns*

[Warsaw]

*can buy a class 3 license and subsequently any automatic weapon he desires after turning 21, including Vickers, FG-42, MG-42, StG. 44, etc. should he find one*

Wut nao? :aaaaa:

[rossmum]

*fuck*

that said do you have a friend with a running matilda mk.iii, running centurion with a working main gun, and several bren carriers?

*owned*

[ExAm]

this is why i never got into airsoft. the prices are not justified in the least bit.
That's because real guns are simpler in function than airsoft guns. A lot of small mechanical parts go into a good airsoft gun, and they have to design them to fit all of these extra parts without them being visible on the outside.

[SnaFuBAR]

That's because real guns are simpler in function than airsoft guns. A lot of small mechanical parts go into a good airsoft gun, and they have to design them to fit all of these extra parts without them being visible on the outside.
dude, airsoft guns don't have to stand up to even 1% of the forces a real firearm would ever have to. That said, firearms are plenty complex with their internals. I'll say it again, the prices of airsoft guns are unjustified in every respect.

[Cortexian]

dude, airsoft guns don't have to stand up to even 1% of the forces a real firearm would ever have to. That said, firearms are plenty complex with their internals. I'll say it again, the prices of airsoft guns are unjustified in every respect.
Unless you live in Canada in which case our failure law makers ruin everything gun related... :fail:

[rossmum]

e/ @ snaf

They know there are people who will sell their souls to play soldiers rather than get paid to do it for real, so they price them accordingly.

[Warsaw]

*fuck*

that said do you have a friend with a running matilda mk.iii, running centurion with a working main gun, and several bren carriers?

*owned*

No, but I do have a friend who designs some of the next gen weapons to be deployed by the US military and some who fly F-22s. :party:

And yes, airsoft gun quality is crap...ALL of them. Not one can match the feel of a real firearm. For example, even VFC and Inokatsu AKs are nothing compared to the real deal, and I've handled all three.

[p0lar_bear]

And yes, airsoft gun quality is crap...ALL of them. Not one can match the feel of a real firearm. For example, even VFC and Inokatsu AKs are nothing compared to the real deal, and I've handled all three.


Simulations: pay probably 20x more to do something without fearing death or debilitating injury but as an omnipotent being who isn't subject to the various limitations set by real world physics.

ftfm

[Amit]

Thread is fucked. Shows 23 pages but only allows you to view up to page 22.

EDIT: What the fuck.

Okay, so let's say I wanted an M14 EBR, what's the most durable one I could find for under $300 CAD?

[Cortexian]

EBR setup = $600 minimum.

M14 = $300-$500 used.

You won't be getting an M14 EBR package for anything under $700-$800. Cheapest I can find in the Airsoft Canada Age Restricted Classifieds is going for $950, it's also upgraded a little bit. The best setup is going to be a Tokyo Mauri M14 + King Arms EBR Clone.

Pimped guns like M14's are money pits. M14's in general are money pits...

[Warsaw]

Those better be Canadian prices, because here in the US, a G&G M14 is $255USD, and they are better than the TM and CA versions (yay for revisions).

[Cortexian]

Yes they're Canadian.

M14's are shit hard to find new in Canada so the prices are pretty damn high. They came out just before the airsoft import ban so there just isn't a lot to go around. Plus they're very nice guns once upgraded internally.

Anyone near the border want to be my airsoft running and get some guns across the border and to a Canada Post? From there you can just mail them to me legally because once it's IN Canada you can pass them around all you want... Discreetly...

[PenGuin1362]

False. Echo 1 M14 EBR is under $400. FPS at around 350 and quite durable, heavy weight, metal RIS and receiver. Also upgrading the gear set of the ECHO is cheaper than buying from say CA or places of the sort.

[Warsaw]

For just under $400 you get a JG-made rebrand and the ugliest/flimsiest looking rail system to ever grace a firearm...:lmao:.

That long barrel will do you no good without a tight-bore in it.

[Cortexian]

False. Echo 1 M14 EBR is under $400. FPS at around 350 and quite durable, heavy weight, metal RIS and receiver. Also upgrading the gear set of the ECHO is cheaper than buying from say CA or places of the sort.


For just under $400 you get a JG-made rebrand and the ugliest/flimsiest looking rail system to ever grace a firearm...:lmao:.

That long barrel will do you no good without a tight-bore in it.
This + Canada = $600 Minimum.

Quality M14 EBR in Canada = $800+

[Amit]

False. Echo 1 M14 EBR is under $400. FPS at around 350 and quite durable, heavy weight, metal RIS and receiver. Also upgrading the gear set of the ECHO is cheaper than buying from say CA or places of the sort.

This is what I was thinking of. I probably should have clarified what I meant. If I went to stay with some relatives in the US I would buy the gun there for cheap. I've seen it for under $250 US.

The Echo 1 may not have the best internals but I'm no professional.

[Cortexian]

This is what I was thinking of. I probably should have clarified what I meant. If I went to stay with some relatives in the US I would buy the gun there for cheap. I've seen it for under $250 US.

The Echo 1 may not have the best internals but I'm no professional.
Or externals. The EBR set is goign to be shitty. Don't cheap out on airsoft man.

[Warsaw]

Well, for basic model guns, going with less expensive brands is fine. When you start trying to get ready made "specialty" weapons such as "SVDs" (these are rarely accurate to the real thing in any respect) and EBRs, the quality tends to be very poor, to say the least.

[Cortexian]

Plastic EBR's are the best thing ever okay?

[Warsaw]

Exactly.

[Amit]

huh?

[Cortexian]

Awesome helmet cam footage from my most recent game. I wasn't the one filming, since I'm to cheap to own a helmet cam + awesome gear... The guys primary weapon jams about half way through so he has to switch to his pistol, p awesome. Unfortunately I was basically doing what the guy in the video was doing, except on the other side of the field, so we don't see each other.

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Guy A: "WHOA MAN!"
Guy A: "Are you using me as a shield, er..?"
Cam Guy: "Are you dead dead?"
Guy A: "No... I've got armor... So..." *Raises weapon*
Cam Guy: "Well, you wanna walk away then?"
Guy A: "Well that's usually what you do... I was just kinda... :confused:"
Cam Guy: *Thinking 'I just capped your ass...'* "Well I'm not gonna walk away right..."
Guy A: "No! Not you!" *Looks dumb and walks away in shame*

[PenGuin1362]

Or externals. The EBR set is goign to be shitty. Don't cheap out on airsoft man.

The externals of the m14 EBR of the Echo 1 is up to par with those of the leading brands. Internals are nice as well, just not AS nice as leading brand internals, however a simple upgrade can fix that at half the price. the reason echo 1 is so cheap is because it's American based, they have the parts shipped and assemble the guns in the us as opposed to classic army and guns of those sort which are shipped to the us in full which costs quite a lot of money to go through customs, not to mention those companies are based in asia.

If you're going to blow $800 for an m14 EBR you might as well just save up another $400 and buy a real m14 and get more use out of it...

[rossmum]

Awesome helmet cam footage from my most recent game. I wasn't the one filming, since I'm to cheap to own a helmet cam + awesome gear... The guys primary weapon jams about half way through so he has to switch to his pistol, p awesome. Unfortunately I was basically doing what the guy in the video was doing, except on the other side of the field, so we don't see each other.
He doesn't seem to move a lot... I remember when I went paintballing for a mate's 18th, with the exception of that one time we were pinned in a ditch by basically their whole team, we barely remained in the same position for more than thirty seconds. We were like a fucking dream team, one of us would fire, the other would move, then turn around and cover as the previous firer would move. All without having to say a word :haw:

[Cortexian]

The guy that was filming is a big fat asian guy ross... He doesn't move around a lot normally. Lol.

However when I play I usually try to maneuver as much possible, even though it requires effort and I'm a lazy rifleman... I'd rather play sniper recon roll and scope out enemy positions and take a nap than run around...

[Amit]

That game seemed pretty slow and boring. How Many guys did you have? I'd rather play in a medium-large size game in a wooded area, like in Scoutthedoggie's:

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[Cortexian]

That was no faster than the game I posted, it just had more clever camera work to make it look like it was fast paced. When I was playing I was running around quite a bit and doing tactical room clears with a couple other guys. The video's I posted were on the boring end of the field, lol.

However, objective based games like yours are always faster paced. We usually play a "downed pilot" scenario like in Black Hawk Down, one team has infinite instant respawns (walks back to base, then right back out) and has to stop the extraction team. The extraction team has infinite lives, but they have medic respawn, and the medic only has one armor hit. The objective of the extraction team is to pull a downed pilot back to their base while under constant fire. It's really quite fun. And extremely fast paced.

There were about 30 people in the videos I posted.

[Warsaw]

Fake page 25...:U

Also, as awesome as that field is, British airsoft gun limits are almost as stupid as Canada's.

[Cortexian]

British airsoft gun limits are almost as stupid as Canada's.


almost as stupid as Canada's.


almost
Key word there.

[Bodzilla]

It's a gun alright.

this to me is like women discussing fashion, i have no idea what the fuck is going on. lol....

[rossmum]

They're not guns, they're basically either toys or functional models. Not proper guns, not even close.

[Cortexian]

They're not guns, they're basically either toys or functional models. Not proper guns, not even close.
But to the soccer moms like 'Zilla, it's a gun!

[Warsaw]

^ What he said.

You guys have to have clear receivers to import. Brits have to have bright, neon coloured receivers to import, and the power limit is 1 Joule. Also, you have to register your airsoft status and guns.

[Donut]

lol i envy these guys. bigass playing fields to play with people who have their own shit and dont cry when they get hit.
best i can do is play with my friends using only shitty pistols because i have 3 of them. i used to have 2 rifles, but SURPRISE, my friends broke them so all i have left for rifles is my bolt action sniper. nobody touches that. it is mine :tinfoil:

seriously though, having to stop mid game because something is "unfair" about me having a bolt action rifle with more range and 20 shots vs a fully automatic mp5 with about 300, and having switch guns with the complainer so they will keep playing is bullshit. expecially when they cry more when i send a shitstorm of pellets with the automatic. i need to get some E-cash i buy a new automatic...
E: and yeah all the guns we play with are mine. they dont have any.

[Warsaw]

Your field and local player suck then...up here, shit is cash. :cool:

[Cortexian]

That doesn't even sound like airsoft Donut. Are you sure your "local field" isn't just the local park? Sounds like you're playing with a bunch of kiddies that aren't even old enough (16-ish imo) to be playing airsoft. Also, if anyone "broke" one of my airsoft guns, they'd be paying me the complete price of what went into it.