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Inferno
April 16th, 2009, 07:35 PM
http://www.xfire.com/video/a55a6/
It's not great but I think if someone who's a good animator did something like this it would be awesome.

Unrealistic I know.

ODX
April 16th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Doesn't look so bad, reminds me of Far Cry 2's Barret reload, except using the right hand instead of the left. I have terrible creativity, so many if I'm bored I'll try this, but chances are I won't. Looks cool though, try to add an ophandle pull maybe.

Heathen
April 16th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Uh...bland and very usual...

Is their somethign I am missing?

Cortexian
April 16th, 2009, 08:37 PM
The entire point of using your off-hand to reload is so that you still have trigger control tbh... That's a pretty stupid way to reload.

Inferno
April 16th, 2009, 09:35 PM
Every sniper reload animation looks exactly the same in Halo 1 2 3 and in most Halo CE maps. I thought I'd try something different.

BTW heathen I hope that was sarcastic.

rossmum
April 16th, 2009, 09:54 PM
The entire point of using your off-hand to reload is so that you still have trigger control tbh... That's a pretty stupid way to reload.
Actually, it's a pretty bloody smart way of reloading a rifle which probably weighs somewhere in the region of 20-30lbs. without the mag falling out from not being seated properly.

Why the hell would you need 'trigger control' while reloading anyway? You're not likely to be firing thin air, are you? And let's not forget that this is a 14.5mm anti-materiel rifle, not a 5.56 NATO infantry rifle... do you honestly want your finger anywhere near the trigger while reloading that?

Inferno
April 16th, 2009, 09:58 PM
without the mag falling out from not being seated properly.
Yeah I had some problems with the link constraint. I pretty much have no clue how to use it properly. I fucked up the constraint on the clip real bad while animating so I couldn't get it to go back to the original place on the rifle while he was putting the mag in. Thus me getting annoyed and having the mag "teleport" to the correct position while he moved his hand back to the trigger and the gun was partially below the view point.

This isn't going in game anyways so it doesn't matter. I just had a creative spark and wanted to try it.

rossmum
April 16th, 2009, 10:00 PM
No, I was referring to the actual magazine seating properly in the rifle so it doesn't fall out of its own accord, not the animation itself. I'd like to see a perfected version of that animation ingame, it suits the rifle.

Heathen
April 16th, 2009, 10:30 PM
Every sniper reload animation looks exactly the same in Halo 1 2 3 and in most Halo CE maps. I thought I'd try something different.

BTW heathen I hope that was sarcastic.
Nope.

ICEE
April 16th, 2009, 10:30 PM
Seems to me that reloading a sniper rifle with the trigger hand could help you keep your barrel level, so you don't have to completely reposition the gun when you get ready to aim again.


Nope.

Could you make a few posts that don't suck?

Cortexian
April 16th, 2009, 10:36 PM
Actually, it's a pretty bloody smart way of reloading a rifle which probably weighs somewhere in the region of 20-30lbs. without the mag falling out from not being seated properly.

Why the hell would you need 'trigger control' while reloading anyway? You're not likely to be firing thin air, are you? And let's not forget that this is a 14.5mm anti-materiel rifle, not a 5.56 NATO infantry rifle... do you honestly want your finger anywhere near the trigger while reloading that?
It's a SPARTAN carrying it.

I don't know where you're from, but up here they define "trigger control" as controlling what's happening with the trigger. That includes NOT firing it accidentally while reloading, which could happen if you don't have a hand near the trigger to prevent things from snagging/pushing/firing the trigger. I was also talking about controlling the firing of the rifle while reloading.

ICEE
April 16th, 2009, 10:41 PM
To fire a gun you have to pull the trigger. whether or not your hand is on the handle makes no difference. What matters is if your finger is resting on the trigger. You can pull your finger off the trigger without moving your hand. That works perfectly as trigger control. What really matters here is how you support the gun. for a sniper rifle, I might hold it with my support hand. However, for this particular sniper rifle, with the bolt on the left, it would be a pain in the ass to animate it with him switching hands. Unless your a lazy guy and don't do a bolt push.

Cortexian
April 16th, 2009, 10:47 PM
To fire a gun you have to pull the trigger. whether or not your hand is on the handle makes no difference.
**GASP**

And you're telling me that the only object that can move the trigger to fire it is your own hand? If you're in the bush there are a ton of things that could snag in the trigger guard and fire the weapon if you don't have a hand near it to ward off such things.

Either way, you guys are just pussy's, I reload .50 Nitro Express rifles while holding them vertical with one arm. /trollin

ICEE
April 16th, 2009, 11:00 PM
**GASP**

And you're telling me that the only object that can move the trigger to fire it is your own hand?
I'm telling you this because your dumber than fuck if you allow something else to get in that region that could feasibly pull the trigger. :) Also, we're talking about animations here, special situations such as "oh hes a spartan so hes super strong" and "he could be in a bush" really have no ground to stand on here.

Heathen
April 16th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Seems to me that reloading a sniper rifle with the trigger hand could help you keep your barrel level, so you don't have to completely reposition the gun when you get ready to aim again.



Could you make a few posts that don't suck?
eat my balls.

nah, fucking with you clad.

but okay srsly.
I didn't really notice it because I didn't realize the "reloading etiquette" you are all aware of. Now that you explained that they are all the same, I completely understand.

Cortexian
April 16th, 2009, 11:21 PM
I'm telling you this because your dumber than fuck if you allow something else to get in that region that could feasibly pull the trigger. :) Also, we're talking about animations here, special situations such as "oh hes a spartan so hes super strong" and "he could be in a bush" really have no ground to stand on here.
Yes, because in combat situations, your IQ and planning always go according to plan, and your enemies perish before your perfected wrath. Animations should be realistic.

Again, realistic, someone (even a spartan) with an anti-material rifle would most likely be doing a recon mission. Which generally includes crawling and moving through rough terrain.

Normal animation is fine. This one is interesting, but I'm pretty sure no Spartan would ever actually need to do it. Ever.

ICEE
April 16th, 2009, 11:41 PM
Yes, because in combat situations, your IQ and planning always go according to plan, and your enemies perish before your perfected wrath. Animations should be realistic.

Again, realistic, someone (even a spartan) with an anti-material rifle would most likely be doing a recon mission. Which generally includes crawling and moving through rough terrain.

Normal animation is fine. This one is interesting, but I'm pretty sure no Spartan would ever actually need to do it. Ever.

Guy. We are talking about animations. In animations you cannot possibly account for all possible situations. And the spartan's strength excuse can only serve to worsen animation quality. I've fucked around with this concept tons of times, and it never looks good if you account for a spartan's abnormal strength.

Cortexian
April 17th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Guy. We are talking about animations. In animations you cannot possibly account for all possible situations. And the spartan's strength excuse can only serve to worsen animation quality. I've fucked around with this concept tons of times, and it never looks good if you account for a spartan's abnormal strength.
He's using Spartan arms is he not?! My arguments are based on that.

ICEE
April 17th, 2009, 12:21 AM
My arguments are based on my experiences. Most animators will agree. Done arguing this point with you and shitting up this thread.

Rentafence
April 17th, 2009, 12:27 AM
Hey guys, I think it's perfect, because after all, it's a fucking reload animation for a fucking video game and all that matters are aesthetics. Jesus Christ you guys can argue over anything. I wasn't aware that physics and simulated free will of the character would have to be taken into account when placing frames ffs.
ICEE > dat other guy

Cortexian
April 17th, 2009, 12:27 AM
My arguments are based on my experiences.
You've reloaded a SRS99C-S2 AM Sniper Rifle?

Cool story bro.

Anyways, the animation could always work, but as I've stated, it's dumb imo.

Ki11a_FTW
April 17th, 2009, 12:31 AM
Freelancer, ICEE is right

Cortexian
April 17th, 2009, 12:36 AM
Freelancer, ICEE is right
No.

What the fuck is up with people of a sudden stating that "my opinion is better than your opinion"? Honestly, in my opinion, it's pointless and stupid.

Ki11a_FTW
April 17th, 2009, 01:32 AM
it's pointless and stupid.

I don't really care, im just stating that i agree with ICEE

CtrlAltDestroy
April 17th, 2009, 01:49 AM
this thread is hilarious

Timo
April 17th, 2009, 02:21 AM
No.

What the fuck is up with people of a sudden stating that "my opinion is better than your opinion"? Honestly, in my opinion, it's pointless and stupid.

What, aren't you trying to do the same thing :confused2:

Cortexian
April 17th, 2009, 02:43 AM
What, aren't you trying to do the same thing :confused2:
No I'm stating it and defending it.

Everyone else is like "No fuck you you're wrong".

KiLLa
April 17th, 2009, 05:04 AM
No fuck you, your wrong. :)

Jokes aside...who cares?
It's a spartan...he can reload his dumb lil sniper anyway he chooses..battle situation or not..
Hell he could flip it in the air for all I care, as long as there's bullets to fire at my enemys when it's over..

rossmum
April 17th, 2009, 08:05 AM
No.

What the fuck is up with people of a sudden stating that "my opinion is better than your opinion"? Honestly, in my opinion, it's pointless and stupid.
why, you do it all the t-


What, aren't you trying to do the same thing :confused2:
oh, dammit

Anyway, it's irrelevant what he is. The Spartans weren't always superhuman, remember? And that's when they would've learned their weapons drill. And they would've learned the same weapons drill as anyone else, because no matter what you are, you learn basic weapons drill just the same. It becomes habit, you of all people should know that.

FRain
April 17th, 2009, 10:15 AM
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A year and a half old. Don't have the animations anymore. [/attempt to re-rail the thread]

Hunter
April 17th, 2009, 11:52 AM
Thread seams like it was dragged from a typical halomaps thread.

FlamingRain's animation looks nice, and so does yours. But the 3rd person one seems off as the stock moves around alot, wouldnt it be rested in the characters shoulder.

ICEE
April 17th, 2009, 12:11 PM
Thats not really the third person animation, its the first person animation from a third person point of view, it'll never be seen from a different angle without yelo

Inferno
April 17th, 2009, 04:21 PM
I just gave that second view to show the concept more clearly.

Corndogman
April 19th, 2009, 12:59 PM
No.

What the fuck is up with people of a sudden stating that "my opinion is better than your opinion"? Honestly, in my opinion, it's pointless and stupid.

Hi, welcome to Modacity Forums.


:)

Rhydgaled
April 20th, 2009, 06:03 AM
http://www.xfire.com/video/a55a6/
It's not great but I think if someone who's a good animator did something like this it would be awesome.

Unrealistic I know.
That actually looks good in the fp veiw, I like it.

I kind-of assumed the mag that gets put in was the same one as gets taken out in halo animations, but actually seeing the way it flies back into his hand from that second angle was rather funny.

EDIT: The point somebody made about having to switch hands to pull the bolt back makes sense though, maybe the model should be edited so the bolt is on the right-hand side so he can pull it back with his right hand.

FRain
April 20th, 2009, 09:56 AM
The mag does not necessarily have to come back in the same way it came out, before. All it is an arm controller linked to the magazine node or vice versa.