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Limited
May 31st, 2009, 04:46 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/8070095.stm


Last Titanic survivor dies at 97

The last survivor of the sinking of the Titanic has died aged 97.
Millvina Dean was nine weeks old when the liner sank after hitting an iceberg in the early hours of 15 April 1912, on its maiden voyage from Southampton. If the ship hadnt gone down she would have been American.

Having lived in the place the Titanic set sail from theres lots of history about it. I had a relative that worked on the ship, he was a cook.

TeeKup
May 31st, 2009, 04:47 PM
May she rest in peace. I believe now the story of the titanic can rest.

DrunkenSamus
May 31st, 2009, 04:55 PM
Wow, what a trip.

Heathen
May 31st, 2009, 05:17 PM
I never got the fascination with titanic.
Lost of people died from a ship accident with the fault belonging to the crew.
E: and I am not trying to be a rude dickhead.

Limited
May 31st, 2009, 05:22 PM
Dude, theres way more conspiracies than that Heathen. The whole issue of whether the Titanic is actually the Titanic, or whether it was the sister ship that sunk. Was it true that the guy who had the key (for something in the Bridge that would have saved alot more lifes) knew he had the key but he still jumped overboard. Many more too.

=sw=warlord
May 31st, 2009, 05:23 PM
I never got the fascination with titanic.
Lost of people died from a ship accident with the fault belonging to the crew.
E: and I am not trying to be a rude dickhead.
I don't think it was entirely the crews fault, they were afterall told that the ship was unsinkable.

Joshflighter
May 31st, 2009, 05:41 PM
Eh, may she rest in peace, but she ain't nothing special. Look at what happen at Novascotia (I think that's where it was) Canada. The entire place was leveled (City) that was located near where the ships collided. Yet, no one even really knows about this...

Heathen
May 31st, 2009, 05:45 PM
I don't think it was entirely the crews fault, they were afterall told that the ship was unsinkable.
But they took an unregistered detour through an iceberg field (is that what its called?)
They're lack of coordination sunk the ship.
And conspiracies, I just think people think some people cant die like normal people.
Its just like how almost every dead celebrity has a conspiracy around it.
Tupac, Bob Marley, Elvis, even recent ones like Anna Nicole and Heath Ledger.

They were sort of famous for riding on the Titanic, and the "unsinkable" ship sunk. The fact of the matter was, by modern standards, its a VERY sinkable ship. It was just a lot better made than the ships of the day. The whole sister ship thing is just more speculation. What happened to the REAL titanic then? I heard it was in Jamaica telling T-shirts. And the key thing, fearful selfishness. He wanted to gtfo that ship.

Its still makes a very charming story though.

Limited
May 31st, 2009, 05:55 PM
The real Titanic definitely sunk. The whole money issue is also another conspiracy.

I agree Titanic wasnt a humongous deal, people have devoted their lifes into uncovering the story of the ship. Thats a little much if you ask me. But it was a very important ship, so was Britannic and Olympic.

Saying it was alot better made than any other ship is semi true. It was made completely different, however they had to cut corners due to money issues.

My housemate is really into it, anytime theres anything about it on the Discovery channel he always demands we watch it =\.

DrunkenSamus
May 31st, 2009, 05:57 PM
It was a one of a kind ship at the time. It was like entering a 19th century mansion with elegant furniture but on water.

Con
May 31st, 2009, 06:11 PM
What makes the titanic such a big deal is the mystery factor. How does an iconic, unsinkable ship go under? So people have been trying to find out, and only now do we know. If such a pinnacle of beauty and engineering could sink, I think its symbolic of how we're still vulnerable to the unknown. That's what interests people.

TVTyrant
May 31st, 2009, 06:14 PM
Wasn't the Lusitania the sister ship of the Titanic? That would be weird if the actual ship that sunk was supposed to be the Lusitania, and the Germans sunk what was supposed to be the Titanic :O

E:Yeah, just checked Wiki, the Lusitania and the Titanic WERE sister ships, as was the Olympic.

Aerowyn
May 31st, 2009, 06:26 PM
But they took an unregistered detour through an iceberg field (is that what its called?)
They're lack of coordination sunk the ship.


Because the ship was so large, the crew figured they would be able to see any icebergs that were big enough to do damage to the ship.

It is not that their lack of coordination sunk it--it's the ship's. It couldn't make quick or enough turns because it had too small a rudder.

I don't blame the crew for the fact that the rudder was too small to properly navigate around the iceberg. :P It's the builders of the ship who put the rudder on, so....

But on topic, how very sad. At the very least, thank goodness she was too young to remember that night. It may have traumatized her for life otherwise.

jcap
May 31st, 2009, 08:38 PM
They just loaded the ship up with explosives a few days in advance and detonated them. Didn't you see how fast it went under in Titanic? No ship could have done that!

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sdavis117
May 31st, 2009, 08:41 PM
The whole fascination with the Titanic is that it was deemed unsinkable, yet it sunk on it's maiden voyage. It's that fact that no matter how many safety nets we put in place for something, it can still fail from simple forces of nature.

Heathen
May 31st, 2009, 08:53 PM
Well I am hereby deeming myself unkillable.

sdavis117
May 31st, 2009, 08:58 PM
Well I am hereby deeming myself unkillable.

Here rests Heathen, the man who was crushed by a random log. May his death be a reminder that Mother Nature does have a cruel sense of humor...

Edit: Fixed my speakers, never mind.

rossmum
May 31st, 2009, 11:28 PM
I could draw an accurate picture of the wreck at age nine. I was absolutely fascinated with the Titanic, not really sure why but it just grabbed me.

SnaFuBAR
May 31st, 2009, 11:39 PM
IIRC they used flawed steel in the rivets and lowered the height of the bulkheads. This is why when it grazed the iceberg (which would have been seen had the relieved officer remembered to leave the binocular locker key) it sank so quickly. That and there were less than half the number of necessary lifeboats.

The titanic is no mystery.

Jean-Luc
May 31st, 2009, 11:57 PM
I could draw an accurate picture of the wreck at age nine. I was absolutely fascinated with the Titanic, not really sure why but it just grabbed me.
I feel the same. Always have been really fascinated with massive machines and incredible engineering failures. Very little is more interesting imo.

Advancebo
June 1st, 2009, 02:34 AM
I read in a science book that it was the metal that made up the hull of the titanic. Something about over-amounts of sulfur in the metal, which caused it to be brittle.

SnaFuBAR
June 1st, 2009, 01:46 PM
Actually it was slag in the sub-standard steel used in the rivets which weakened them, not over-amounts of sulfur in metal that made up the hull. When the rive heads popped off from grinding against the iceberg, seawater flowed into the hull. Not only did they use sub-standard steel for the rivets, they lowered the height of the bulkheads. Had the bulkheads been built at the original design height, the Titanic would've sank MUCH slower.

This is the fact, it's not even speculation anymore.

sevlag
June 1st, 2009, 01:56 PM
well to throw my two cents in here regarding the Titanic,

if the first 5 of the liner's compartments on the bottom of the hull were filled with water then the ship would have been able to survive, HOWEVER a sixth compartment after it stuck was filled because of the timing of the water tight doors sealing, if the captain was to allow ALL the compartments to fill, the weight of the water would have been distributed throughout the titanic's hull and allowing for the carpathia to make a 100% rescue operation, the sixth compartment filling however was what put the nail in the coffin so to speak as most of the weight was at that time was now greater around the bow of the ship than the stern, causing the titanic to lift up and whatnot...

i spent like most of my life fascinated with the titanic, i read up on most of the logic, none of that conspiracy bullshit

EDIT: snaf beat me to what basically sunk the damn thing