"building" a sniper : )

[PenGuin1362]

Yes this deserves a thread. prick.

Step 1: cut a hole in the bo-...Get scope

1940 production PU Scopes are difficult to come by these days. Especially in good condition. Plus when you do find one, you're lookin at $350+ (worth more then the rifle they mount on). Well about a week ago i was browsing gunbroker.com and came across quite a nice looking PU. Authentic 1943 (or early 44, the A prefix was switched after early 44) Russian PU sniper scope. So I decided for shits and gigs, why not "build" a ww2 russian sniper.

Well, $373 later, step 1 complete
the 19X65 stands for inspection and repair in 1965

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/0601092239.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/0601092239a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/0601092242-1.jpg

Next to come is a 91/30 Mosin Nagant followed by tap kit and screws, then of course a bent bolt and leather lens caps for final touches.

Feel free to post any odd things you collect or in are in the process of building >_>

[mech]

Ugh, your scope is missing a gun.

[Boba]

i thought jews were supposed to do the non-physical labor like putting weapons together

oh wait tavor sucks
:smug:

[PenGuin1362]

Ugh, your scope is missing a gun.

god damn it. i must have dropped it.

[rossmum]

You lucky bastard.

Nice scope.

[Advancebo]

Maybe you shoulda built the gun first...

[SnaFuBAR]

or not, as the scopes are pretty hard to find. :downs:

read first post next time.

[Advancebo]

Didnt understand it much

[rossmum]

How could you not understand it? Even if you don't know what the fuck a PU-type scope is, he explains how they're hard as fuck to find in good nick and how they cost more than the rifles.

[Advancebo]

Cuz I was reading it at 2 am in the morning and tiredz.

[rossmum]

The ironically-named common sense dictates that posting when you don't actually comprehend the thread at all is a pretty damn bad idea.

[mR_r0b0to]

dude thats the best gun ever

[Napalm]

Dude, that scope brings back cod2 memories. Lol

[PopeAK49]

This looks like it's going to be really fun to put togeather. Hopefully your sniper turns out nice. I'll be waiting for more progression.

[Advancebo]

What is it going to be fueled by? Explosives or CO2?

[PenGuin1362]

stop talking please. I buy real guns like a real man :beer: This will be number 3

also, ordering the 91/30 nagant tomorrow : D 1940 manufacture. will post more pictures as it progresses. and videos if anyone wishes to see this beast in action. (my m44 carbine nagant shot through 4 inches of solid cast iron and inch of steel >: ) )

[rossmum]

stop talking please. I buy real guns like a real man :beer: This will be number 3

also, ordering the 91/30 nagant tomorrow : D 1940 manufacture. will post more pictures as it progresses. and videos if anyone wishes to see this beast in action. (my m44 carbine nagant shot through 4 inches of solid cast iron and inch of steel >: ) )
Is it just a straight infantry rifle, or an ex-sniper? The infantry rifles can be rather inconsistent when it comes to build quality and accuracy, but the ex-snipers (a little pricier and rarer) were converted because they only just fell below the very high standard set for sniper rifles. If I was to actually build a 91/30 sniper (and damn do I ever want to), I'd look for one of them.

[PenGuin1362]

unfortunately ex-snipers are hard to come by now. The few I found had shitty stocks, bore, or receiver. and the ones that didn't, like you said were pricey.

What makes the ex-snipers better is they were counter-bored, where as most infantry rifles weren't. the rifle i'm looking at is not counter-bored so it's accuracy will not be up to par with an ex-sniper. Perhaps if i could fine one in as nice condition i might grab it. A lot of the stocks on ex-snipers were cut off in large sections to make replacing the segment where the scope was easier, so adding the scope back on will make the stock look fuglier, and perhaps more prone to cracking.

[PenGuin1362]

Phase II of operation build russian sniper complete. Commence acquisition of bent bolt.

Finally got it in today. 1943 M91/30 Mosin Nagant. Excellent bore, came with all WW2 sling, oil can, and bayonet. Ammo pouches are post war. Now just to buy a bent bolt and begin mounting the scope :iamafag:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/0717091838.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/0717091840.jpg

Be jealous.

[n00b1n8R]

Am not jealous. :smug:

[PopeAK49]

You going back to the civil war as a sniper. :realsmug:

[t3h m00kz]

Get a KAR 98 then tell me to be jealous :smugsome:
seriously though sexy rifle

[PenGuin1362]

i am. next summer.

[legionaire45]

Pretty :).

[TVTyrant]

I'd shoot the rifle without the scope first just to see if it has any accuracy. Alot of Nagants are in pretty poor shape, as in ugly bores that have mostly been shot out. Also, a sniper rifle is going to be useless unless you handload or know of a good source of good 7.62x54R ammo. The majority of what's available is pretty shitty, especially the cheap surplus stuff. And if you roll your in you can make the loads tailored for your particular rifle.

[PenGuin1362]

You're talking to someone who knows more about guns then is mentally healthy. First of all I have examined the bore myself and it is in excellent condition, in fact better then my M44 Nagant which still hits with half inch or less grouping. Its accuracy is phenomenal. So i think it's safe to say this one will do fine. Also there is a local firearm shop that buys very high quality 7.62x54r ammo which is where i get my ammo from.
I don't fuck around, if i'm buyin a rifle it's going to be in damn good shape.

EDIT: this rifle has also been counterbored which actually increases the accuracy of the rifle

[TVTyrant]

You're talking to someone who knows more about guns then is mentally healthy. First of all I have examined the bore myself and it is in excellent condition, in fact better then my M44 Nagant which still hits with half inch or less grouping. Its accuracy is phenomenal. So i think it's safe to say this one will do fine. Also there is a local firearm shop that buys very high quality 7.62x54r ammo which is where i get my ammo from.
I don't fuck around, if i'm buyin a rifle it's going to be in damn good shape.
Good. I wasn't trying to be critical, I was just trying to be helpful. I too know quite a bit about guns, andf its good to see someone who knows what hes doing.
What brand is the ammo? Partizan or Sellier or what? Even if its of good quality, I would still recommend handloading. Its alot of fun, usually costs less than factory loads (unless its Bear or Wolf) and you get a much wider bullet selection.

[Spartan094]

What do you plan on doing with this sniper?

[rossmum]

What do you plan on doing with this sniper?
Using it as a hat stand, surely?

[PenGuin1362]

Partizan. Out of the ammo i've bought I like theirs the best. I would love to hand load because i know it costs a shit ton less. but i don't go shooting enough at this point in time where the investment in the equipment would not really be beneficial right now.



What do you plan on doing with this sniper?

Many assassinations. (hides from FBI :ohdear:)

Nothing. I collect firearms.

[TVTyrant]

You could go, OMG, deer hunting. You dont even have to shoot anything. Just as fun to sneak up on animals in the woods.

[PenGuin1362]

I'll bayonet charge them.

[TVTyrant]

At least then people can't complain about you not giving them a fighting chance. Go black bear hunting like that. It sounds like fun.

[Rosco]

Many assassinations. (hides from FBI :ohdear:)

Nothing. I collect firearms.

That's very cool dude, the mosin nagant is my personal favourite, when bolt rifles are concerned.

[rossmum]

You could go, OMG, deer hunting. You dont even have to shoot anything. Just as fun to sneak up on animals in the woods.
he could go german hunting

[Ganon]

lol take it in the woods and do work. gun is pretty cool tbh.

[PenGuin1362]

he could go german hunting

i am german you twat

[legionaire45]

i am german you twat
You won't have to look very hard then!

You should make it tacticool.

[SnaFuBAR]

You won't have to look very hard then!

You should make it tacticool.

waiting on ross ragepost about tacticool

[BobtheGreatII]

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9672/hkwithoptics.jpg
:realsmug:

[Inferno]

Your building it wrong!

Should look more like this.

http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs/65870_88675974_tacticoolAR15.jpg

[BobtheGreatII]

That's awesome... Ha ha ha

[PenGuin1362]

yeah i wish i had the money for all that.

[rossmum]

people who seriously think that is cool rather than ridiculously pathetic need to remove themselves from the gene pool

[Boba]

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2637/futurama5bthebirdbotoficecatraz5d20055ko4.jpg
its only a matter of time

[legionaire45]

Why did ent you get da version with da rails? :<<<<

[SnaFuBAR]

people who seriously think that is cool rather than ridiculously pathetic need to remove themselves from the gene pool

iirc belligerent ignorance is a two way street :allears:

[PopeAK49]

people who seriously think that is cool rather than ridiculously pathetic need to remove themselves from the gene pool

What if you think it's both? :realsmug:

[ICEE]

Hey guys dont argue with ross hes a big time army guy now remember he cant be hanging around with gunscrubs like us

[TVTyrant]

http://www.portierramaryaire.com/imagenes/oicw.jpg
Speaking of tacticool...

[kid908]

^
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Based on XM-8 =\ and the XM-8 was more practical.

[TVTyrant]

^
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Based on XM-8 =\ and the XM-8 was more practical.
The XM-8 was actually a component that came off of the XM29 OICW. The US military realized that the components would develop better separate before being put together.

[rossmum]

The XM-8 was actually just a shittified version of the G36. It wasn't as bad as people like to make out, but it was a complete waste of time and money. The G36 is a solid rifle and, unlike the XM-8, it had a standard attachment system. The one on the XM8 would require a whole new set of equipment, which is just ridiculous.

Since you guys have brought the OICW up, though... check out the AICW. As awesome as Metal Storm is, I don't really want to be lugging a bulky, 16-lb. rifle about the bush. With any luck they'll cancel it (if they haven't already).

[TVTyrant]

The XM-8 was actually just a shittified version of the G36. It wasn't as bad as people like to make out, but it was a complete waste of time and money. The G36 is a solid rifle and, unlike the XM-8, it had a standard attachment system. The one on the XM8 would require a whole new set of equipment, which is just ridiculous.
Yes, the XM-8 was based on the G36, but it was intended originally to be only a component of the OICW. Thats what lead to part of its development ending, because the contract that H&K had won wasn't for individual weaopns, it was for the combined weapon, which caused some other company (cant remember who just now) to file a lawsuit. Thats what ended its developement.
And in the cae of it being a shittified version, thats somewhat true, but I dont really like the G36 anyways. A solid performer under ideal conditions it may be, but under I have heard of parts breaking from being dropped in the heat or the cold. It is very reliable for fighting in Europe, but in the deserts and jungles I do not believe it to be rugged enough. Say what you will of the M-16 jamming (which is very true, although it is not as common of an occurance nowadays), it can take some serious physical abuse. Thats why I really like the HK-416 and Ruger SR-556. The piston rod combined with the aluminum/steel frame seemsto be a winner to me, instead of the plastics that the XM-8 and G36 are primarily composed of. tl;dr

[rossmum]

Well I dunno about you, but I'm pretty happy with the F88. :haw:

[TVTyrant]

We dont get a fancy gun. If I join the American military, I get an M16 :saddowns: Thats why I want to work for the American army snipers as a gunsmith. I get an awesome job, get to handle great equipment, and perhaps even work my way into a brass position :iamafag:

[rossmum]

I would gladly demote myself to avoid a brass position :iamafag:

[TVTyrant]

I would gladly demote myself to avoid a brass position :iamafag:
Really? Thats interesting, because I dont give a fuck about the soldiering life or actual fighting, I'm just interested in equipment.

[PenGuin1362]

I r russian sniper....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/0805092247.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/0805092248.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/0805092249.jpg

[rossmum]

yo peng where do you live so i can come shoot that next time i'm in north america

[PopeAK49]

Hey you can be that one russian sniper that killed a lot of guys, but then he got his head blown off. :realsmug:

[PenGuin1362]

i is vasili :saddowns:

[Daishi]

i is vasili :saddowns:

He may be thinking of vasily, but vasily survived WWII, and lived until 1991.

[rossmum]

If he is, he did actually suffer head wounds - a mine went off in his face and blinded him. His sight was restored by a rather awesome surgeon, though.

[PenGuin1362]

cause Russia's awesome. I want his rifle, but it costs about a million, in a museum in russia >_>. Goin to sight this bitch in on saturday :iamafag: