Snow with a extra side of more snow!

[Inferno]

Super Hi Rez click the image to get big ass full size.
http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/images/snowtrap_UVW_Optimized.jpg
This map needs another beta test now! When do you guys want to test her out?

Ingame images coming soon.

edit-
I'm going back and adding a few more lights...

[SonicXtreme]

better include snow hogs :P

[sdavis117]

Needs more snow. Maybe like 2 cubic tons right over there.

[klange]

When do you guys want to test her out?
ASAP, will host slow server.

[MetKiller Joe]

Super Hi Rez click the image to get big ass full size.
http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/images/snowtrap_UVW_Optimized.jpg
This map needs another beta test now! When do you guys want to test her out?

Ingame images coming soon.

edit-
I'm going back and adding a few more lights...

The buildings don't have that frost-bitten feel to them, but it looks nice.

I'll test it out.

[Inferno]

I'll see what I can do about ice.

Also I forgot I had to do portals. Fuck.

[Malloy]

Looks like an uber cool variant, but still looks innacurate to Halo 3's :(

[Llama Juice]

Needs more snow. Maybe like 2 cubic tons right over there.
Do you have any idea how much 2 cubic tons is?

But yea, what MKJ said about the frostbittenness of it all... it's just not there.

[sevlag]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

yes this is warranted, i want to test this but i can't play CE that much

[TomClancy]

Looks sweet, I'll beta if you'd like.

[StankBacon]

uhh.. what is this supposed to be?

[flibitijibibo]

Yeah, I can help out if you need it. I can test on the machine in my specs and on a laptop with an 8600M GT if benchmarking's important.

[Inferno]

uhh.. what is this supposed to be?
Sandtrap...

You seriously never played sandtrap?

Here is a example. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySk4PnphZCg)

[New101]

Im up for a big team battle X) since my xbox is fried right now X[

[Hunter]

Snow looks very... ermm. dirty.

Also, you should put better metal textures on as well instead of that extremly boring metal with sripes.

[Higuy]

I'll beta, unless it's past 7:00..
Looks cool, though the big block in the back where the banshee goes looks a tad bit bland. I bet you could spice that up, looking at the rest of the map.

[Inferno]

I don't know what you mean hunter...

And I have a nice strip texture on the banshee block but you can't see it because it's so far away.


Also,

Let me tell you something! 2 cubic tons of snow is----

HEY LOOK WHAT I FOUND! RAAAAAHHHHH
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/09ee56ddf1394219eeec3543777ac893a84286ff.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/837380b0a9144dd933110def6807d410b1a0e146.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/589e66cf95b388b99a8feb2fa3d109f44e5839a4.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/67b9f3a66f927383088983a67b5cb330891d537f.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/e897d10847d00b4d0d2fc588b474da2b8523ca79.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/2895fcd6eabff27245c9b10088733fcc86899f3c.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/3db7533868d3e528f368cf9140bd69d71afc55d7.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/097df5e417d128688d3a7b377aba6467e8e048d8.png


The texturing is a bit bland in some places but I didn't have much to work with really. I didn't do the model I just optimized it.

[Malloy]

Looks pretty rad.

[Higuy]

Hmm. Looks pretty good, I hoping that Tank isn't placed like that normally though lol. (on the right hand side base)

[Inferno]

Well since the blue base gets better defense I decided red team needed a better offense.

CTF only btw.

[MetKiller Joe]

It looks much better. I'd get rid of the white on the buildings in small-medium patches and also turn down their opacity to maybe 60-80%.

Edit: Never mind. I looked at the pictures closer and noticed that is the stock metal texture, but the lighting makes it look washed out. I'd just make a detail texture that is darker.

[Inferno]

It looks much better. I'd get rid of the white on the buildings in small-medium patches and also turn down their opacity to maybe 60-80%.

The white? You mean the lights?

[Higuy]

Also, to make the map look a bit better since its snowing, you could create a small plane for area's of the forerunner flat surfaces, tessellate them bit and create some small terrain hills (not any more up to like mc's knee), and create it with no collision. That way, it looks as if the snow is piling up onto the forerunner surfaces =)

[StankBacon]

now it actually looks like something, much better than the renders.

[Inferno]

Also, to make the map look a bit better since its snowing, you could create a small plane for area's of the forerunner flat surfaces, tessellate them bit and create some small terrain hills (not any more up to like mc's knee), and create it with no collision. That way, it looks as if the snow is piling up onto the forerunner surfaces =)
Good idea. I'll do that when I tweak the map after beta testing.

[ThePlague]

I'm up for it

[Higuy]

Good idea. I'll do that when I tweak the map after beta testing.
By the way, you should create about 3 different ones (and just copy them around the map, people won't notice really). That way you can have 3 different bitmaps with alpha's, so that the snow doesn't just completely cut off making it look weird. (it would make the snow fade out). I'm not sure what the other bitmap would be for the detail maps besides snow, but I bet you could figure it out.

[Heathen]

looks great. Someone already showed me this via xfire or something. Was it you inferno?
If not, I might have just went in your xfire gallery from all your videos.

[FluffyDucky™]

Looks good! Are you planning on having snow flakes falling?

e: nvm, saw last page, looks awesome! :D

[k4is3rxkh40s]

I could try any time tonight, I have a hd 4850 coming in the mail today so I might actually be able to play Halo again.

[Malloy]

This may seem stupid but in Max, highlight all of the snow geometry and select scale and scale it like by 3 inches to ingame scale then export that model and texture co-ords out as a piece of scenery, then in Sapien add it then set to co-ords 0,0,0 and you should have a piece of no collision 'faux' snow effect. Just need a snow crunchin sound effect for walking :P

[Inferno]

I might play with deep snow later on right now it needs game play testing which will begin after I finish my new sync script for yoyo.

[BobtheGreatII]

Needs more Elephant. : /

Lol, looks great though, wouldn't mind testing.

[Rentafence]

This may seem stupid but in Max, highlight all of the snow geometry and select scale and scale it like by 3 inches to ingame scale then export that model and texture co-ords out as a piece of scenery, then in Sapien add it then set to co-ords 0,0,0 and you should have a piece of no collision 'faux' snow effect. Just need a snow crunchin sound effect for walking :P

Or it can just be part of the bsp set to render only.

[Malloy]

Oh rad, I was unaware of render only options. Do elaborate :D

[Masterz1337]

Crashed Spirit instead of Phantom? The CMT Spirit breaks up into 5 different pieces if you want it.

[Rentafence]

Oh rad, I was unaware of render only options. Do elaborate :D

Stick a ! at the end of your material name.

[Arteen]

It looks way too bland, and it's Sandtrap. The metal_flat_generic is really flat. And generic. Try and use a more interesting shader/bitmap. It honestly looks like a better-than-most box map. If you try and give the map more detail, it could look really nice.


Oh rad, I was unaware of render only options. Do elaborate :D
It's in the HEK tutorial. Look it up.

[Gwunty]

That model is amazing, I wounder who made it :3

[Ki11a_FTW]

It does look good, but the metal needs some small piles of snow on it of some sort, otherwise, thumbsup!

[Heathen]

Needs more snow. Maybe like 2 cubic tons right over there.
Ahh, you clever fuck. love matchmaking

[n00b1n8R]

Do you have any idea how much 2 cubic tons is?
About 2 tons worth?
2 metric tons of solid ice is only 2.18 cubic meters. :eng101:

But yeah, the map needs something to spice it up. How about 2 snowed in elephants? (making red and blue base?)

[Heathen]

Do you have any idea how much 2 cubic tons is?

You and noob jdgi.
ySk4PnphZCg

[BobtheGreatII]

Uhm... I think he purposely quoted the movie you guys... :mech3:

[Inferno]

That model is amazing, I wounder who made it :3

What is this I don't even...

[Llama Juice]

Uhm... I think he purposely quoted the movie you guys... :mech3:
:3

[Gwunty]

What is this I don't even...
WELL, it is obviously the best map model in your map pack.

[Rentafence]

WELL, it is obviously the best map model in your map pack.

Nuts.map was better.

[VickJr]

That look awesome. I love the take on the original sand trap to make it have an original forerunner look. The lighting gives a nice mood. And that sky is sweet. Is it animated?
Wish I could help test but no time. I have my own projects to work on.
Can't wait for this map!

[Gwunty]

Nuts.map was better.
becuase he fucked it up
:nsmug:

[halopro77]

Needs more snow. Maybe like 2 cubic tons right over there.

rofl that's from matchmaking :XD:

[Inferno]

rofl that's from matchmaking :XD:
HOLY SHIT I HAD NO IDEA! YOU ARE SO SMART THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID AT LEAST 100 TIMES IN THE LAST FEW PAGES!

</flame>

[Inferno]

Well I'm rescaling the map to make it 10% bigger because a certain shadow spartan kept complaining about how it was "too small"

[Inferno]

Epic triple posting!

The drop ship crashed recently. The covenant discovered this forerunner construct in the arctic. Soon afterwords the UNSC launched a attack on the covenat forces occupying the area and took it over. Much of there equipment was left behind and is being secured by the UNSC.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/f3eb390af46f0efd15bb329ad139a8705fcffbae.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/293e841bd44cdca3a2b6eae69ac0206da0d84050.png


Thank masterz for the nice broken drop ship model. :golfclap:

[Arteen]

The crashed ship looks awesome in the snow.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/untitled-6.jpg
Low res, look in other picture on where I circled, you missed a spot. :)
Edit: I THINK.

[Inferno]

There is just a shadow and 2 plasma grenades on top of the.... hut thing...

What's wrong?

edit-
If you guys are up to it the map is ready to beta.
I can set up a server tonight if you guys want to play.

[Chainsy]

Nvm its the lighting, looked like I saw triangulation from the wireframe with that line.

[BobtheGreatII]

edit-
If you guys are up to it the map is ready to beta.
I can set up a server tonight if you guys want to play.

Do it now!

[ThePlague]

Do it do it do it!

[Inferno]

Well I don't know if you guys don't really want it I guess I'll just---



--- make another thread for beta.

[ThePlague]

Suggestions:

-Starting weapons should be changed to things with better range, like a pistol and BR (if you would use custom weapons other than the fuel rod)
-The spawn points could be in better places.
-Needs more elephants

All I can think of now. Was it portalled?

[Inferno]

Portals are fucked up. They optimize the interiors but I can't get them to seal the fucking weather properly.

Pistol AR spawn is fine. What else would you spawn with?

Elephants won't work in CE.

[ThePlague]

Make the elephant snowed in like someone suggested then, and it won't move but still act as a base.

Were there any health spawns? Because I could never find one.

[English Mobster]

Make them the scenic, snowed-in Elephants. And make them into actual bases with spawns and that sort of shit.

[Higuy]

Make a blizzard that would be cool. Make it like the one in Sandstorm in ut3, don't know if its possible, would be cool though.
Also gameplay got pretty boring fast, don't know why, but it did.
Spawn points could be better, and not on top of a giant building.
Fuel Rod. Ok, I got hit dead straight with it 2 times and barley brought down my shields. :\
Make more hills in the backround.
It's nice, but I think since its basically just a halo 3 copy it got me bored straight from the get go.

[Inferno]

I'm going to add a scope and a better reticule to laser rod. The damage is fine though. You have to lead it durp.

See other threads for plans on elephant.

[Masterz1337]

Dropship is completely awesome looking. Wish when our dropships blew up they landed in as cool positions. The only thing I would suggest is that you let the player be able to travel into the minefield. That's a critical part of the gameplay in H3. Maybe make it extra icy so vehicles slide if they want to travel around the exteriors?

[Inferno]

Well I plan on actually adding a frozen pond where the snow dips down near the rocket spawn (in between the rocket building and the big main building.

I'll see what I can do about mines.

[English Mobster]

To make mines, you place a trigger volume down, then place a flag inside that volume, That way when ever any player stands there an explosion will take place after, oh 7 seconds (feel free to modify).
Make one flag per mine, with as many mines as you want in the trigger volume. It'll take some work to encompass the map with these things, but it'll be worth it.
In my example, the trigger volume is "minetrigger1" and the flag is "mine1".
Script for mines:

(script continuous minefield
(begin
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 0)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 1)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 2)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 3)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 4)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 5)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 6)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 7)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 8)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 9)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 10)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 11)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 12)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 13)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 14)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
(sleep_until (volume_test_objects minetrigger1 (players)) 15)
(effect_new "vehicles\scorpion\shell explosion" "mine1")
(sleep 700)
)
)

[Inferno]

Lol mob I'm going to actually make a device_machine to throw mines up and kill the player.

[English Mobster]

That... Works too.
Good way to go about it.
*Feels sorry for self for wasting 10 minutes of his life making a script which will never be used*

[Inferno]

Don't worry you wrote a script I almost used. That's a accomplishment for you.



I just kidd'n I love ya bra! NO HOMO

[Heathen]

What'd you do for the Albatross?

[Inferno]

I made a hill.
You wanna fight about it?

[Malloy]

make an Alby :P

[BobtheGreatII]

I made a hill.
You wanna fight about it?

Ha ha :mech2:

[Sever]

Make it a Pelican, durr.