I NEED this graphics card.

[EX12693]

Ati Mobility Radeon HD 5650.

I need the card itself. Find me one guys!

Go!

[Amit]

Uh, how about...looking for it yourself!

I'm not even gonna post that stupid "this is how you google" thing.

Well, I guess it would be harder to find the card itself. Unless there's a laptop-based PCI-E card for it, I doubt we'd be able to help you. Hell, even if a notebook has a PCI-E slot with a video card in it, I doubt you'd be able to remove it and slap one of these in.

E: edit, I've done some quick searching and it doesn't look good so far. I can find various nVidia cards, but not these ATi series cards. They're too new to have such cards, if they are to be produced at all.

[flibitijibibo]

http://tinyurl.com/ylrbtnr

E: Aw, Amit ruined it for me.

He is correct though. It'll probably just be in pre-built laptops.

[Warsaw]

Good luck finding an MXM version of a rather low-end card. You don't typically get a removable one unless it's of the 5700 type or greater.

[EX12693]

Uh, how about...looking for it yourself!

I'm not even gonna post that stupid "this is how you google" thing.

Well, I guess it would be harder to find the card itself. Unless there's a laptop-based PCI-E card for it, I doubt we'd be able to help you. Hell, even if a notebook has a PCI-E slot with a video card in it, I doubt you'd be able to remove it and slap one of these in.

E: edit, I've done some quick searching and it doesn't look good so far. I can find various nVidia cards, but not these ATi series cards. They're too new to have such cards, if they are to be produced at all.
I um, don't need your smart-ass comments.

And Flibit, since when did you think I needed a personal army for a Google search? So over-reactive...

Im just asking for help. Ive done a bunch of research already and no luck has come, so I thought an extra google search or two might find the link that I might have missed...

[Donut]

how about letting us know youve done some searching instead of saying "DO THIS FOR ME NOW".
youre asking us for help. acting like a child isnt going to get you that help.

[FRain]

I um, don't need your smart-ass comments.

And Flibit, since when did you think I needed a personal army for a Google search? So over-reactive...

Im just asking for help. Ive done a bunch of research already and no luck has come, so I thought an extra google search or two might find the link that I might have missed...

That wasn't a smartass comment. That is what happened. You were asking for it.

Also: if you had done your research, then you would have realized that any video card Radeon sells under the Mobility brand, is most likely only prebuilt in laptops, and cannot be bought seperately.

[Warsaw]

^Not entirely true. The HD4800 and HD5800 lines come in PCI-Express MXM format, so you can swap them into notebooks that meet the TDP requirements. It's just hard to find mobile graphics cards from both nVidia and ATi, because no vendor sells them on a regular basis. If only Newegg had them, they could make a killing on people spending $300 for a new laptop GPU to avoid buying a new laptop altogether.

[EX12693]

Thank you Warsaw for actually HELPING. I'd +rep if I could.

I cracked open my laptop a couple days ago and it does have an empty slot where a card would go.
At the beginning of the thread, how do you think I knew the EXACT card I needed, if I didn't do any research? It's quite obvious I did research. Now to state even MORE obvious facts, I will say this. What a bunch of little shat-faces you guys are. (Except Warsaw of course)

Also, the "smart-ass comments" statement was not related to this thread. Rather to PMs and rep.

[flibitijibibo]

K, thanks for the constructive criticism of our criticism. We'll keep that in mind next time.

[Amit]

I um, don't need your smart-ass comments.

And Flibit, since when did you think I needed a personal army for a Google search? So over-reactive...

Im just asking for help. Ive done a bunch of research already and no luck has come, so I thought an extra google search or two might find the link that I might have missed...

Well, I think my first post was fairly balanced between somewhat useful information and "smart-ass" comments.


That wasn't a smartass comment. That is what happened. You were asking for it.

Also: if you had done your research, then you would have realized that any video card Radeon sells under the Mobility brand, is most likely only prebuilt in laptops, and cannot be bought seperately.

The way I said it makes it a smart-ass comment. However, it does not make my statement any less true. He didn't state that he had done research already, which throws other people off sometimes. It threw me off, initially. He set himself up for it, as you said.


Thank you Warsaw for actually HELPING. I'd +rep if I could.

I cracked open my laptop a couple days ago and it does have an empty slot where a card would go.
At the beginning of the thread, how do you think I knew the EXACT card I needed, if I didn't do any research? It's quite obvious I did research. Now to state even MORE obvious facts, I will say this. What a bunch of little shat-faces you guys are. (Except Warsaw of course).

Go ahead, you can fully say it. We are shit-faced people. You won't turn to stone. Except, in this case I am being called shit-faced for providing facts. It doesn't really add up.

Telling us the exact card you need does not reflect research. It only tells us the exact card that you want. Obviously you've gained the information that your laptop has a PCI-E slot available for use, otherwise you would not even be asking us to find a laptop video card for you. As Warsaw and I previously said, it is rare that lower-end cards of these kinds are available in the laptop form-factor or MXM sizes.


Also, the "smart-ass comments" statement was not related to this thread. Rather to PMs and rep.

I have never contacted you privately in any way previously. I have never sent you a private message, nor have I ever used the reputation system on you. So, I don't exactly know what you're on about.

[flibitijibibo]

Amit: I negrepped for no proof of research, he just mad.

[Amit]

He directly quoted only me, and not you, as well. Once again...he fucked up. Either way, he came here for help and we've given what information we've found.

EX, sorry man, but you'll probably have to buy a high-end version of the HD 5000 series video cards for your laptop.

[Warsaw]

And you need to make sure that it meets the TDP requirements, or you risk not being able to power it at best and frying the rest of the components at worst.

[EX12693]

Yeah I was afraid of that. Thanks for the help...
or lack thereof regarding everyone else.

Oh btw I don't care about rep. Doesn't really mean anything except the measure of patience (or impatience) towards you.

[Amit]

Yeah I was afraid of that. Thanks for the help...
or lack thereof regarding everyone else.


Yeah, fuck you too.

[Cojafoji]

Yeah, fuck you too.
:eng101:

[Warsaw]

What is this I don't even...

[Amit]

Wait, if he was talking about the people other than Warsaw and I, then I retract my statement.

[EX12693]

I wan't even supposed to be here today...

E: Aw, amit ninja'd me.

EE: Warsaw helped... Amit, you just kept saying stuff I already knew.

[Warsaw]

I said largely the same thing he said, but dumbed down.

[SnaFuBAR]

Stop moaning at everyone, EX, you fucked up by not providing what info you already had and the attitude towards your post was simply the result. End of, simple as that. You can reopen this thread if you have anything to post other than complaints towards everyone, which you've done in every post but your opening post. Nobody else give him shit either.

Do not reopen this thread to argue with me.
Do not reopen this thread to argue with anyone else.

[EX12693]

Warsaw, something you said earlier... adding another component might fry the ones I already have? How?

[Warsaw]

I said if you put in a graphics card that does not meet the TDP of the laptop, i.e. 75W, you might fry everything else in there due to excessive heat generation. Alternatively, the computer might just give you a proverbial "Hell no" and not let it work at all.

[EX12693]

Oh fry as in heat... I thought you meant fry as in short out circuits or blow out capacitors or transistors. Lol.
Anyway my laptop case can handle the heat anyway. I'm looking for this card because a model of my comp comes with the card in it, and I'm fed up with Intel GMA.

[Amit]

a model of my comp comes with the card in it

Ah, I understand now. Tell us that the next time to avoid all the trouble.

Try to find out from the manufacturer if they can sell you the card separately or from anywhere else. It must not be immediately available to consumers.

[EX12693]

Hopefully there won't be a next time! :haw:

[Warsaw]

Oh fry as in heat... I thought you meant fry as in short out circuits or blow out capacitors or transistors. Lol.
Anyway my laptop case can handle the heat anyway. I'm looking for this card because a model of my comp comes with the card in it, and I'm fed up with Intel GMA.

Well, frying your components via heat typically involves blown capacitors, transistors, etc.

[EX12693]

...God now I'm just getting confused...

I've fried stuff via no airflow, but not blowing out parts. Btw I'm trying to get in tough with the manufacturer... no luck. :smith:

[Warsaw]

What do you think happens when you fry something? It doesn't just up and stop working when it gets too hot, something has to give out.

[EX12693]

Yeah, but I've fired stuff using heat, not passing too much electricity through it.

[Warsaw]

*head desk*

The heat is generated by electricity passing through it...with a card that draws too much power for the laptop you are both A.) generating excess heat and B.) drawing more current than the specs say are tolerable.

[EX12693]

You don't need to much current to fry something... just too much heat. This component won't fraw too much power though. I'm just worried about too much heat.

[Warsaw]

Bottom line is that it will blow something, regardless of whether it got too hot or had too much current flowing through it (which makes that isolated component get too hot). You are separating it into two separate problems when it really isn't.

[EX12693]

No it won't blow anything. Another model of my laptop COMES with the card. I already said this.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Just because its another model, doesnt mean it will work with it.
Its entirely possible other parts are different so it wouldn't work properly.

[Warsaw]

Sweet Jesus, you are not comprehending. I'm not talking about your specific laptop, and have never been. I'm talking about in general, if something doesn't meet the TDP, it runs the risk of being too hot or drawing too much power...which both result in a transistor or capacitor being blown and thus a fried part.

Kapeesh?

Fake E: By the way, an already rare MXM HD5800 probably doesn't meet your TDP...and MXM HD5600s are even harder to find.

[Amit]

EX, are you sure that the HD 5650 in that notebook is removable and not permanently attached to the PCI-E port? That might actually be the case, meaning you won't be able to get one.

[Warsaw]

Protip: Different models of the same notebook may also have different motherboards.

[EX12693]

Ive been doing more research on this questions. I still dont really know yet...

[bravo22]

from previous experience I have learned that generally upgrading laptop graphics is more trouble than it's worth because no two laptops are alike and there's always heating, size, driver issues etc. Usually when the manufacturer advertises a laptop graphics as upgradeable, it doesn't mean you can simply swap out for the next generation at will, it probably means if the card fries you can remove it and replace it with a similar model. Also there are different types of MXM sizes and they aren't compatible with one another's slots. And just because the same model of your computer comes with the dedicated card, doesn't necessarily mean the card can go into your integrated-chip model. The mobo could be different to accommodate the card, there could be a different cooling system, etc. Just save up and get a whole new computer (preferably build a desktop, unless you study abroad like me). Furthermore it is extremely rare to see laptop video cards being sold separately.

[Warsaw]

Which is essentially what we've been telling him.

Most used MXM form factor right now is MXM 3.0b. Also, drivers are being fixed by ATi and nVidia to be uniform, but right now there are no results, just announcements.