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Saggy
June 27th, 2010, 10:08 PM
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I'm sure most of you know by now, but for those that don't, a new iteration of the Rock Band franchise is due to be released later this year. If you're like me, you're probably starting to get tired (or already are) of all these music/rhythm games beings released and don't really care that there is a new Rock Band/Guitar Hero <insert number here> . With Rock Band 3, however, they really are bringing a lot of new, innovative ideas to this genre of gaming.

First off is the inclusion of a new peripheral, the keyboard. While this may seem like an unusual addition to some, I believe it has great potential. There are a lot of great classics that use keyboard/piano--remember that although the keyboard is the peripheral, it doesn't only have to play keyboard specifically. Some examples taken straight from the setlist of Rock Band 3 include "Break on Through" by The Doors and "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen.


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The keyboard peripheral itself is a fully-functional, two-octave ranged MIDI instrument. What that means is although the keyboard can be used for general gameplay--hitting the right keys in the colour coded area--, as well as the games "Pro Mode" (more on that below), it can also be used with MIDI software/devices as a real instrument. It is currently being priced at $79.99 for its release--bundeled with the game it will cost you $129.99.

The second great thing about Rock Band 3 is the newly introduced "Pro Mode" which allows players to use more advanced peripherals that will literally let them play the song. Pro Mode allows you to use a drum set with added cymbals, the newly introduced keyboard, or one of two new specially designed guitars to learn the proper notes/chords/or beats of a song and apply that to real instruments. For example, if using the keyboard on Pro Mode, the notes you see scrolling towards you on screen will relate to the actual keys that are being played in the song. If you are using one of the new guitars, the notes on screen would show you which fret to play on which string. There are also various difficulty levels in Pro Mode as well, ranging from Easy to Expert. Easy-Pro Mode gives a limited amount of notes; just enough so that if you translated the notes played onto a real instrument, you'd have the basic (albeit terrible) sound of the song. Expert is the real deal, it's you playing note-for-note with the song. Pro Mode makes Rock Band 3 more than a game, but a learning tool for inspiring musicians; or just a way for experienced musicians to get a proper challenge out of these types of games.


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I previously mentioned that there are two new, specially designed, "Pro Mode" guitars. One of these is the Madcatz Wireless Fender Mustang PRO-Guitar Controller (Note: Madcatz is now the official Rock Band peripheral maker for those that don't know). This guitar features 105 buttons along the neck, representing 17 frets for each six strings of the guitar. Speaking of strings, this guitar has them; replacing the infamous "strumbar" we've all come to know is six strings. While all this may seem good, you may be asking yourself, "Why is there a billion buttons? Why not just have strings across the whole guitar if they're trying to push people to play a real instrument?"


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Image of the Fender Mustang PRO-Guitar Contoller--Destructoid.com


The second PRO-Guitar controller for Rock Band 3 is the Rock Band 3 Squier by Fender Stratocaster. This is the real deal; this guitar is a fully-functional electric guitar complete with everything you would expect from a standard guitar (minus a whammy bar). Oh, and it can be used to play Rock Band as well. While playing in Rock Band's Pro Mode, pressing a string down on the fretboard is recognized by the game just like you'd expect. It even tells which fret you are holding down, and if you slide and tap your fingers on the neck, the fret you are holding down will change in real-time in game. The guitar appears to be super responsive and that's just what is needed for something like this to work. Also, remember that this is a real guitar. That means it can be plugged into an amplifier, even while you are playing the game. If you want to hear exactly what you're playing, plug this bad boy into and amp while playing Pro Mode, and prove to yourself you're playing a real song. A video demonstrating this new, amazing guitar can be seen here:


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Whew, now that all that's out of the way (I probably sound like one of the PR guys; I haven't even played the game yet I'm speaking so highly of it), what do you guys think about this new Rock Band game? Will you be trying it out at all or are you just going to pass it up?

Kornman00
June 27th, 2010, 10:43 PM
I hope that they'll let players make use of that built-in tech in the guitar to make their own music. Did they ever make an official song maker for Rock Band or GH? I know there's some fan made programs out there but I haven't kept up with them since probably '07 (that in-game editor doesn't really count in my books).

sdavis117
June 27th, 2010, 10:53 PM
(Note: Madcatz is now the official Rock Band peripheral maker for those that don't know).

This news makes me very unhappy.

Saggy
June 27th, 2010, 10:58 PM
I hope that they'll let players make use of that built-in tech in the guitar to make their own music. Did they ever make an official song maker for Rock Band or GH? I know there's some fan made programs out there but I haven't kept up with them since probably '07 (that in-game editor doesn't really count in my books).
Well, they have the Rock Band Network (http://creators.rockband.com/) that allows Xbox 360 users to create songs on the PC using the official tools that Harmonix uses. The downside is that you need an XNA Premium Membership to actually transfer the songs to your Xbox and that is quite costly.

Timo
June 27th, 2010, 11:02 PM
The fuck is the point of that guitar, you may as well just learn to play an actual guitar :|. I can't see anyone being able to coordinate all of those buttons on their first or second play through on any reasonable difficulty. I guess it's pretty neat that you may come out of the game knowing how to play a real guitar, but I can't see myself sitting down for hours trying to get the game to an enjoyable level.

Saggy
June 27th, 2010, 11:15 PM
The fuck is the point of that guitar, you may as well just learn to play an actual guitar :|. I can't see anyone being able to coordinate all of those buttons on their first or second play through on any reasonable difficulty. I guess it's pretty neat that you may come out of the game knowing how to play a real guitar, but I can't see myself sitting down for hours trying to get the game to an enjoyable level.
I agree completely; the guitar with all the buttons I see no real purpose for. It is, however, a MIDI instrument as well. I forgot to mention that in my post.

I'm really excited for the other guitar (the actual guitar) though because it really interests me. As someone who can play basic guitar, I hope that it helps me progress with guitar playing and have fun while doing so. There will also be exercises and stuff as well included with the game, so I'll be able to learn skills as well as actual songs.

Kyle
June 28th, 2010, 09:31 AM
The fuck is the point of that guitar, you may as well just learn to play an actual guitar :|

I think it's more of something to move players from the plastic Rock Band controller to an actual guitar. It's also cheaper than the other guitar (at least I sure hope so, touch sensitive technology in the entire neck of the guitar sounds pretty expensive) so that may be a factor for some to get it as well.

I'll be picking the keyboard bundle up, though I'm sad it is confined to 2 octaves (but I understand why). Not having the parts for the left hand will feel weird in some songs. Also, I hope they fixed the whole 'if there's no singer in a song and you have a singer you can't play the song' thing.

Also, it's pretty disappointing they released Queen songs, "Don't Stop Believin'", and many other songs where keyboard/piano/organ (and multiple singers) play a large role already. There hasn't been any official word on past DLC being updated for the keyboard, harmonies, and pro mode, but I'm not surprised. Going back to update near 1000 songs would be quite a task.

What we really need to know is the rest of the songs! If "Evil Woman", "Like a Rolling Stone", "Sun Glasses at Night", and a song by Billy Joel, Elton John, and Journey don't make it into the game, they're going to have a very sad Kyle. But fuck yes to "The Power of Love", "Just Like Heaven", "Here I Go Again", and "Rainbow in the Dark"!

Llama Juice
June 28th, 2010, 01:21 PM
This is the first I'd heard of RB3, so much thanks for posting this.

Do I care?... not really.

I bought Rock Band so that I'd have something to do with my hermit roommate, since he's not into multiplayer FPS much... and that's mostly what I play.... I don't live with him anymore, and the few people around here that play rockband and such aren't really that hardcore about it to really make me care.

Still, it's cool that Harmonix is going that extra step... and really trying to give extra to the fans, and really actually try to do something new that's kinda big.... so kudos to them.

Amit
June 30th, 2010, 12:55 AM
I wouldn't buy the game or the actual guitar, but if somebody I know has both, I would gladly use it over the crappy plastic guitars. I just never felt comfortable using them. It makes more sense to play the real thing.

Corndogman
June 30th, 2010, 06:59 PM
One thing I've always hated about the little plastic guitars is when your sitting down and playing, the neck is heaver than the body so it will slide off of you and you have to hold it up. Whereas a real guitar the body is heavy enough, and big enough so that you keep it in place with your strumming arm.

I'm with Amit, if a friend has it I'll play it, but unless it turns out to be ridiculously awesome then I'm not gonna bother.