Inception thoughts, lasting impressions?

[DarkHalo003]

The new film starring Leonardo DeCapprio (whatever)- Inception - came out this past week. If you saw it (I really recommend you do), what'd you think?

I thought it was very well constructed plotwise and it developed into a great conclusion (great as in how it's told, not as in happy/sad ending kind of great, trying not to spoil here). It's definitely a must see and has great acting. Considering it's only been out for less than a week, I'll wait till I give my "spoiler tag" opinion and crap until we've had a decent amount of people who've seen it. Go go go!

[thehoodedsmack]

Was cool, but I feel it would have been better if Leo DiCaprio and Ellen Page's characters had been played by different actors. I also felt that during the last scenes, they began to stray too far from the rules the movie invented for the shared dream experience. Unsurprisingly, Ken Watanabe was the best part of the film. The ending also got a laugh out of everyone in the audience.

It was a cool idea for a movie, but I think it could have been better if they had opted for a recurring-theme other than "man learns to cope with loss of wife". Also, because Cobb used the totem of his deceased wife, we can't even be sure she is dead. Since Mal would know the exact details of her totem, we can't disregard the notion that the entire movie was within Mal's mind. Just saying.

[Siliconmaster]

I loved it, and I personally thought that the casting and acting in general was perfectly fine.

And how did they stray from the rules? The only part that was questionable was killing themselves to get out of limbo. I can only assume that it worked because the sedative was almost worn off by that point. And I loved the ending- it implied that he was indeed back in reality, but of course they couldn't resist denying us the satisfaction of certainty.

[Kornman00]

I haven't seen this one yet but after seeing him in Shutter Island I figured Inception would be a pretty damn good movie too. Nice to see this and Despicable Me (saw it in 3D) topping the charts over the sequels/remakes of yesterday's junk.

[Rob Oplawar]

Yeah, I loved it. Technically you can say that it has flaws that might have been improved on, but overall it is an absolutely fantastic film. While the theme is nothing close to original ("is this really real?") I found the storytelling and the action to be very original. To use the common buzzword, it's very cerebral. It's no Transformers (ie plotless characterless scifi action special effects orgy), although the action is just as exciting if not more so. I'm itching to go see it a second time to see what I pick up on that I had missed the first time around.

[t3h m00kz]

i liked it

[ICEE]

Looked interesting, but I can't see it because it has dicaprio in it. There are thus far 3 actors which I absolutely will not watch.

Tom Cruise
Dicaprio
Tara Reid

[MastaCheefa]

Looked interesting, but I can't see it because it has dicaprio in it. There are thus far 3 actors which I absolutely will not watch.

Tom Cruise
Dicaprio
Tara Reid

I agree with you on Tara Reid and for the most part Tom Cruise but your really missing out by not seeing Dicaprio movies.
He is one of the greatest actors of our time and his movies are almost always win. Theres so many good ones...The Beach, Blood Diamond, Catch me if you Can, The Departed, Shutter Island, and now apparently, Inception.

[Siliconmaster]

Yeah, not sure why you don't like DiCaprio. I really respect the guy for not becoming a typical celebrity actor after Titanic, and instead moving off to work on really well done serious acting roles.

[thehoodedsmack]

It's the look. He doesn't look convincing as the character. He was great in Catch Me If You Can, because he played a young man. He was great in Gangs of New York, because he played a young man. And he was great in Titanic because again, he was cast as a young man. But as he's aged, his appearance hasn't changed enough that I can believe he's the character portrayed. I'm not sure if Leo will ever be able to play a person his age, as his aging process seems to take a downward-sloping arc, where he's just now starting to show the slightest signs of aging.

To me, it doesn't matter how proficient an actor is in portraying a character; if they don't look the part, then they're unbelievable in the role from the get-go. That's why I felt that it would have been a better choice to cast someone other than Leo, because he doesn't look his age just yet.

[paladin]

Great movie.

the thing falls over

/dream

[Limited]

Film was fantastic, action, story characters all top notch. I heard it was really hard to understand, did not have that problem at all. I cant really think of anything I didnt understand, and I went for 2 pisses during it, one was near the end too.

Spoilers...

Silicon, perhaps they didnt stray from the rules, perhaps the plane (when they woke up) was actually limbo for them? I assume its not but it could have been. I still think the end is open, its one of those "you decide" what happened. Which although it sucks I dont know for sure, it did work well. Chuckle from the crowd occurred at that moment. Same thing happened from the kiss, and the guy after can crash. Although funny, they both seemed a bit forced and out of place.

The only bit of film, I didnt fully understand was the whole Ellen Page constructing a maze/architect for the dream, apart from right at the end with the tons of skyscrappers, yes she knew everything about the dream, but they didnt really show that in the film.


Gonna get it on DVD, I'm not one of those crazy people that will view it like 5 times in cinema in the next day.

I was sat in the front freaking row, my head was at full tilt back for the entire film, it was hard on the eyes, the films 2 hours and like 24 minutes, but not a single one of that was dragged out, film had great pace and it flew by.

Personally I think this topped Dark Night, it was the kind of action film I love and why I go to the cinema.

[DarkHalo003]

You make it sound like Lost when you put it that way.
I liked seeing another DeCaprio movie, but I agree the dead wife thing wasn't very original (considering his recent movie). The ending kind of bothered me though. I was kind of hoping for a happy one and having the totem topple over at the end.

[Siliconmaster]

You make it sound like Lost when you put it that way.
I liked seeing another DeCaprio movie, but I agree the dead wife thing wasn't very original (considering his recent movie). The ending kind of bothered me though. I was kind of hoping for a happy one and having the totem topple over at the end.


It did start to wobble- the implication is that it was going to fall over, but they weren't going to give you that certain of an ending- that would be too simple :P.

[Donut]

denying yourself this movie just because of one actor is pretty stupid imo.
i was really into how dream time is alot longer than real time, and how the effect is multiplied on lower dream levels, and of course the ending was beautiful. my favorite thing though was how it kept showing what was going on at different dream levels and how that affected the lower levels.

what i dont understand though is why does the free fall on dream level 1 cause no gravity on dream level 2, but the gravity is present on the lower levels?

[Siliconmaster]

Well, they did say that you felt stuff less as you went deeper. They might have felt a little lighter, but not nearly the same amount of physics shifting as on the level nearest to the van.

[DarkHalo003]

Donut, it'd be like being in a box inside a box inside a box while be claustrophobic. The effect just decreases with each layer.

[Siliconmaster]

^Except that your example is backward. In your example it would increase, theoretically, however I suppose your relation to the first box would decrease. Ok, weird example altogether.

[ExAm]

http://i28.tinypic.com/69kt2x.jpg

[Rob Oplawar]

LOL

[DarkHalo003]

Well, what goes in your dreams stays in your dreams......

[Dwood]

After the movie and stuff we were all using our cell phones to see if they would react the way we thought, and they did. xD


One thing I wonder about, is what happens when (or rather, if) the group that, being under the sedative (with like 10 people in it) manipulates the other physics of the dreams... do people's subconscious projections reject them too?

Also, each level deeper requires more power from the brain... how deep then, could they go? that's something that irked me, is the question of what if there were limitations on that person? (say, an inability to dream or something)

[Rob Oplawar]

I was just a tiny bit annoyed when they did the whole "We only use 10% of our brains" bit. That's a long-standing myth that, while interesting, is completely untrue. Perhaps only 10% of your brain is used for conscious thought (depending on how you define it), but rest assured 100% of your brain is being used for something.

e: *glances at avatar*
Suresh was right. It's so clear now. How it all works, pieces fitting together. It is in the brain.

[ExAm]

I was just a tiny bit annoyed when they did the whole "We only use 10% of our brains" bit. That's a long-standing myth that, while interesting, is completely untrue. Perhaps only 10% of your brain is used for conscious thought (depending on how you define it), but rest assured 100% of your brain is being used for something.

e: *glances at avatar*
Suresh was right. It's so clear now. How it all works, pieces fitting together. It is in the brain.
They didn't say we only use 10% of our brain, they said we only take advantage of 10% of our brain's potential. I know I can't imagine a convincing world in front of my eyes when I'm awake.

[Cortexian]

I absolutely loved the ending, as did most of the audience I assume as there was a slight laugh from everyone at the end. All together one of the best movies I've seen for awhile, it actually made you THINK about what you were watching while you were watching it. If you didn't go into the movie expecting to follow what was going on, and you just expected action and special effects you probably won't understand the entire movie and give it a thumbs down. Fortunately I figured that since this had to do with dreams, it would require some conscious following, and my suspicions were confirmed when they started talking about multiple layers of dreams.

Am I correct in saying that there were FIVE layers of dreams including layers of limbo?

• Real life.
------------------------------------------------
• Dream involving the van-torture escapade.
• Dream with "Mr. I'm your dream security, but not really I just hope you don't notice".
• Dream in the mountain-fortress setting.
• Limbo layer featuring Cobbs and Mals fantasy world from previous limbo.
• Limbo layer with "Mr. Old-now Japanese guy".

Or were the last two limbo layers the same? They didn't really clarify this, since it seemed that the Japanese guy had populated and built his own limbo world with armed guards and such... This was different than Cobbs limbo layer.

[Timo]

Damn cool movie. I'll need to watch it again to fully understand a few details, but man. Awesome.

[Champ]

I absolutely loved the ending, as did most of the audience I assume as there was a slight laugh from everyone at the end. All together one of the best movies I've seen for awhile, it actually made you THINK about what you were watching while you were watching it. If you didn't go into the movie expecting to follow what was going on, and you just expected action and special effects you probably won't understand the entire movie and give it a thumbs down. Fortunately I figured that since this had to do with dreams, it would require some conscious following, and my suspicions were confirmed when they started talking about multiple layers of dreams.

Am I correct in saying that there were FIVE layers of dreams including layers of limbo?

• Real life.
------------------------------------------------
• Dream involving the van-torture escapade.
• Dream with "Mr. I'm your dream security, but not really I just hope you don't notice".
• Dream in the mountain-fortress setting.
• Limbo layer featuring Cobbs and Mals fantasy world from previous limbo.
• Limbo layer with "Mr. Old-now Japanese guy".

Or were the last two limbo layers the same? They didn't really clarify this, since it seemed that the Japanese guy had populated and built his own limbo world with armed guards and such... This was different than Cobbs limbo layer.
Limbo is a shared dream space. So it was the same level. Saito was probably just somewhere where Cobb and Mal didn't create.

[DEElekgolo]

Had a dream today, "woke up" twice.
Ended up waking up at noon.

Splain' dis.

[Dwood]

Falling back to sleep again.

[Limited]

Okay I have a question..spoilers


Okay you know the toetum thing (think it was called that), the object thats unique to the person to tell them if their dreaming. Is that only to tell if they are in someone elses dream, I.e, the other person doesnt know the object/objects weight. Or does it also work in their own dream, i.e. someone takes over their dream, for instance the guy they are trying to trick, he could have used one to see if he was dreaming.

[Timo]

Okay I have a question..spoilers


Okay you know the toetum thing (think it was called that), the object thats unique to the person to tell them if their dreaming. Is that only to tell if they are in someone elses dream, I.e, the other person doesnt know the object/objects weight. Or does it also work in their own dream, i.e. someone takes over their dream, for instance the guy they are trying to trick, he could have used one to see if he was dreaming.


My understanding was that they were the only ones that knew how it functioned in the real world, so regardless of whose dreamspace they were in, it wouldn't act as they know it should. Like the top spinning forever.

[Dwood]

My understanding was that they were the only ones that knew how it functioned in the real world, so regardless of whose dreamspace they were in, it wouldn't act as they know it should. Like the top spinning forever.


The only problem with that is if the person was in their own dream.... better to be in your own dream than someone else's, neh?

[Timo]

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Mind = Blown

[Guardian]

:O I was wondering why the musical countdown sounded so different from what it did on in the dream layer that it was started on, now it makes sense.
It sounds so epic slowed down.

[ExAm]

My friend's friend saw the movie again, and noticed that whenever Yusuf played the warning music, the main theme would always play one dream below. Nifty, eh?

[Donut]

so could that be used as proof to say that the entire movie was just a dream in that main guy's mind?

[ExAm]

so could that be used as proof to say that the entire movie was just a dream in that main guy's mind?
Uh, no?

[Timo]

One thing I noticed when I watched it a second time that I didn't really get

In the first dream when they are falling, the guy in the second dream experiences weightlessness. Why are there no effects in the third dream down when the dreamer is weightless?

[Rob Oplawar]

I briefly wondered the same thing, then decided it was a small enough discrepancy that I can satisfactorily chalk it up to "that's just how it works" without feeling too bad about it. There are a number of little things like that throughout the movie, but the overall quality is unmatched this summer.

[Siliconmaster]

Didn't we already discuss the weightless thing? Due to the effects being exponentially less each layer, the people might have felt a little lighter, but not enough to affect the dream. Just like how the asian guy (sorry, forgot his name) can't feel the pain from his gunshot wound one level down.

[ExAm]

He can feel the pain, just less than in the level above.

[Siliconmaster]

Yeah, but it's a lot less. Only when he's actually dying does he start to feel it more. I'm not saying the effects would be nonexistant, just that they wouldn't really notice it unless it were extreme- such as the van hitting the water at that speed, which they do feel.

[ExAm]

So this is three non-sequential pages from an actual old comic

http://i.imgur.com/xyhNj.jpg
http://disneycomics.free.fr/Ducks/Rosa/D2002-033/07.jpg
http://disneycomics.free.fr/Ducks/Rosa/D2002-033/10.jpg

[Lateksi]

Funny read. They're very much alike... Rosa's comic probably gave director Nolan the idea.

[GoAcapulco]

Probably the best role of Leonardo DiCaprio... I watched in the cinema, the movie "Inception" I really liked, and even more I liked the soundtrack of the movie by composer Hans Zimmer. Songs "Old Souls" and "Mombasa" just cool. Who needs the music, you can download below

http://i36.tinypic.com/2mmhilv.jpg

Composer: Hans Zimmer
Album: Inception Soundtracks
Size: 108 Mb
Bitrate: 320 kbps
Genre: Soundtracks, Instrumental, Classic
Year: 2010
Quantity: 12 tracks

Track List Inception OST
01. Half Remembered Dream (1:12)
02. We Built Our Own World (1:55)
03. Dream Is Collapsing (2:23)
04. Radical Notion (3:43)
05. Old Souls (7:44)
06. 528491 (2:23)
07. Mombasa (4:54)
08. One Simple Idea (2:28)
09. Dream Within A Dream (5:04)
10. Waiting For A Train (9:30)
11. Paradox (3:25)
12. Time (4:35)

ExAm edit: NO PIRATEY STUFF HERE, MATEYS. Them's the rules. Read 'em before posting.

[ExAm]

Links to pirated material are not allowed on these forums.

[CrAsHOvErRide]

Great movie, didn't really like the limbo thingy but loved the music.

[ChemicalFizz]

Actually, although the soundtrack itself is worth the purchase, they excluded two tracks from the film in the soundtrack that they NOW included as bonus downloads on the official website for the score. I was actually looking for one of them, which is titled "Don't Think About Elephants," which played during Joe Gordon-Levitt's infamous hotel scene. To be quite honest, the bonus downloads are the best tracks from the film.

http://www.inceptionscore.com/