Minecraft

[sevlag]

encountered a game breaker:

go to nether, come back and it may crash, your save iwll become 0.0 mb and fail to load(lock up)

[Limited]

encountered a game breaker:

go to nether, come back and it may crash, your save iwll become 0.0 mb and fail to load(lock up)
Quit and reload Minecraft, theres a bug fix update (1.2.0_01).

Anyone know how to make the watch? Im still bummed about laterns.


Sunrise/sunset is AWESOME. Anyone else start a new save?

[sevlag]

Quit and reload Minecraft, theres a bug fix update (1.2.0_01).

Anyone know how to make the watch? Im still bummed about laterns.


Sunrise/sunset is AWESOME. Anyone else start a new save?
didnt work, save still corrupted...went to my less worked on world

EDIT:
nvm

[Limited]

Oh yea, you wont be able to recover your save, unless you backed up.

Heres the schematic for a watch. Its pretty hard to read the time though.
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8289/watch.png

[sevlag]

Oh yea, you wont be able to recover your save, unless you backed up.

Heres the schematic for a watch. Its pretty hard to read the time though.
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8289/watch.png
the watch flips out in nether

[Limited]

Nether = hell?

I just fell from a big tower I made, lost all my stuff, respawned and it had disappeared, fucking I had all my diamond stuff that I had when I found diamond blocks. And my red stone powder, watch and compass.

[Yoko]

I had that exact same thing happen, it was out in the open too and all my stuff was gone. Luckily I only had a few iron picks and some cobblestone sorry for your lots Limited ~

[Dwood]

invedit link anyone?

[Bastinka]

invedit link anyone?
http://www.moddb.com/games/minecraft/downloads/invedit

Also anyone got a multiplayer server up? I wanna go explore the nether with a friend.


EDIT: Punching/hitting the fireballs from ghast's deflects them from you.

[Limited]

I had that exact same thing happen, it was out in the open too and all my stuff was gone. Luckily I only had a few iron picks and some cobblestone sorry for your lots Limited ~
Think I'll just make a backup of my main world and use that, I've got tons of resources there.


The inventory loss on death is a bug! But let's just pretend it's extra difficulty for halloween!

[t3h m00kz]

My latest skin:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j148/Delinquin/cyborgss.png

I know I'm a bit late but mother of god want

[Con]

Do I need to make a new level to get all this new halloween stuff like nether and watches? Will biomes be generated as I explore or is it too late?

[sevlag]

Do I need to make a new level to get all this new halloween stuff like nether and watches? Will biomes be generated as I explore or is it too late?
you can play on old saves con, its just that the biomes will only appear in newly generated chunks

nether (hell) portals can be made in old saves as well

[Limited]

I'd be careful with the portals, I placed one in hell trying to get back to my base look where I ended up =\

http://limited-development.net/minecraft/oh-dear.png

Yup, spiders bloody dungeon, was lucky to survive.

[CodeBrain]

http://codebrainshideout.net/too_awesome_for_pb/Minecraft_Pics/Treasure_room.png

My soon to be treasure room (where I keep most of my valuables)

[ICEE]

does that red dirt stuff burn all the time or only when placed outside of nether? I haven't even found a nether portal yet.

[CodeBrain]

does that red dirt stuff burn all the time or only when placed outside of nether? I haven't even found a nether portal yet.

Burns all the time, forever.

Additionally you don't find a portal, you make one.

Basically make a 5 vertical/4 horizontal obsidian frame, light the bottom obsidian blocks on fire, and portal will be made.

[n00b1n8R]

What recopies do we have with the new ores?

[ICEE]

How to build a home that is impregnable by mobs:

The only way in, is via boat surfing

lz8kwTtg00U

[thehoodedsmack]

So I build a portal into the Nether, and things are cool. But when I try to exit via that portal, I wind up somewhere COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from where I placed my entrance in the real world. What's that about?

[Cagerrin]

It's essentially a "fast travel" dimension. What I remember reading was that 1 block in the nether = 16 blocks in the normal world.

[t3h m00kz]

BEWARE FOUL DEMONS AND BEASTS

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu279/m00kz/barbskin.png

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu279/m00kz/barbarian.png

http://www.cdaccess.com/gifs/screen/d2barbarian.jpg

[Dwood]

http://www.moddb.com/games/minecraft/downloads/invedit

Also anyone got a multiplayer server up? I wanna go explore the nether with a friend.


EDIT: Punching/hitting the fireballs from ghast's deflects them from you.
thx bro.

[thehoodedsmack]

It's essentially a "fast travel" dimension. What I remember reading was that 1 block in the nether = 16 blocks in the normal world.

That's not the problem. It's the same portal, not one I built inside the Nether. I read up about it, seems to be a bug.

[n00b1n8R]

How to build a home that is impregnable by mobs:

The only way in, is via boat surfing

lz8kwTtg00U
A flat space like that with no torches will get mobs at night. Also height cap means the buildings will be lame. Also playing on pussy-mode.

[sevlag]

That's not the problem. It's the same portal, not one I built inside the Nether. I read up about it, seems to be a bug.
its a known problem, happens to me as well, the only "true portal" is the one outside my obsidian bunker

[thehoodedsmack]

I think the problem might be that I built my portal right against a wall. Apparently you have to have space on both sides.

[ICEE]

A flat space like that with no torches will get mobs at night. Also height cap means the buildings will be lame. Also playing on pussy-mode.

There will be torches when im done building it. its entirely unfinished. Also, I play peaceful when I'm building shit because falling 4 blocks and losing health = gay, and it happens a lot. As for buildings, fuck buildings.

[Dwood]

ATTN: I just dug straight down, like 20 levels if not more, and entered into a cavern full o' lava and water, and obsidion. 'twas awsum.

Edit: Oh and there was diamond galore too. :3

[Limited]

I suggest you guys check out the bridge mod (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=64642), its unbelievable. It got broken in the halloween update but hes working on an update (theres a basic fix out so you can use it, but its slightly buggy).

[MXC]

The new employee for Notch is the same guy that made this:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/235/9/8/Brutal_Legend_SCUMM_by_jnkboy.png:bunchies:

[CodeBrain]

I suggest you guys check out the bridge mod (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=64642), its unbelievable. It got broken in the halloween update but hes working on an update (theres a basic fix out so you can use it, but its slightly buggy).

Using Elemental Arrows mod, fun lighting pigs on fire, and turning my small lake into a ice rink

[t3h m00kz]

It's a shame I don't want to mod the game too hard.. aside from texture swaps... those elemental arrows look like fun.

E:
Bad ass texture pack

http://imgur.com/0zgLw.jpg

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=73861

[thehoodedsmack]

Personally, I like the low-quality textures.

[n00b1n8R]

High-res texture packs rarely suit minecraft IMO. realistic ones like that look terribad on FLAT FACED CUBES. :v:

[Warsaw]

Personally, I like the low-quality textures.

This. It's those low-quality textures that make the game so lulzy with their deceptive simplicity.

[Cagerrin]

Ugh, I tried a hi-res pack once. Looks like utter shit at the distances I had to view my structures from to see them in their entirety.

[thehoodedsmack]

So I deleted the Minecraft launcher from my computer today. This game is too addicting. I wonder how long I can last before playing in-browser...

[Dwood]

I just need to more easily tell the difference between metals. 's all i care about.

[n00b1n8R]

I just need to more easily tell the difference between metals. 's all i care about.
black is coal, brown is iron, yellow is gold, red is dust ???

[ThePlague]

Got the game yesterday, it's amazing. And holy crap so addicting.

e: yee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItPvkkiEYt8

[Rentafence]

AO mod for minecraft. If you aren't using this you're a square (or cube)

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=55700&ao

Before
http://ded.zenblue.net/minecraft/Ambient_occlusion_disabled.jpg

After
http://ded.zenblue.net/minecraft/Ambient_occlusion_enabled.jpg

[dark navi]

If anyone wants to join my shit-fested server, feel free. It is a great server if you are a member, but there are like 50 guests, so sorry.

http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=af168a7b30a3e496c33a953c243c423a

[sevlag]

love my giant fortress on top a mountain, easy to get to and the only mobs that spawn are sheep.

so notch hinted at fixing SMP bugs in the next update

[Rentafence]

love my giant fortress on top a mountain, easy to get to and the only mobs that spawn are sheep.

so notch hinted at fixing SMP bugs in the next update

So post pics

[sevlag]

So post pics
ight
from the back
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Keyes/minecraft/javaw_2010-11-05_19-51-52-33.bmp

The stairs
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Keyes/minecraft/javaw_2010-11-05_19-54-17-81.bmp

The approach
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Keyes/minecraft/javaw_2010-11-05_19-54-35-33.bmp

built this over the course of a few hours,already had the wood for the flooring inside, there is also a mineshaft i started close to the chests seen in the 2nd pic, it goes from like close to the top of the mountain down to the bedrock

[Rentafence]

How did you get the smooth stone for your fortress? Did you carve it out of the mountain?

Also your roof is burning.

[sevlag]

How did you get the smooth stone for your fortress? Did you carve it out of the mountain?

Also your roof is burning.
roof is made with the hell stone that burns forever and the smooth stone is made by putting cobble in a furnace, my mine about a few blocks down became a blast shaft so obtaining cobblestone wasn't hard (but fall from the top of the spiral to the bottom and its insta death

[Cagerrin]

How did you get the smooth stone for your fortress? Did you carve it out of the mountain?

Also your roof is burning.
You can stick cobblestone in a furnace to get normal stone. Kind of a pain, but cobblestone looks like ass.

(since I'm too lazy to change it, the normal stone in the texture pack I'm using also looks like ass, but I'm not using it much anymore, so..)

[Dwood]

the artist guy made this:

http://www.monokey.org/temp/premakes/otherm.png

Which I want to play it like that. Would be so boss.

Edit: I was digging around and found a cave... That led into another cave. Dug around some more and got flooded by a MASSIVE waterfall, which I swam up and dug my way out... those caves were large enough to take me from the bottom of the level up to the surface. I was surprised, to say the least.

[Rentafence]

Put cobblestone in furnace etc etc

How the fuck did I not know about this?

[t3h m00kz]

fun fact, you can generate infinite cobblestone using a stream of lava intersecting a stream of water

[ThePlague]

Something I wanted to try:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWTkiwbjipM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K_4_5Cco4E

Is it good/bad? Should I keep going? etc, etc.

[Dwood]

@Mooks: You can also generate that one stone type obsidian by placing Lava inside water.

@ Plague: You spent like 4 minutes talking about the options menu. Blech. Also if you have like 20 logs in there for wood, you can right click on the wood and it will just add them together. Try it.

[ThePlague]

Alright. Would these seem useful at all to anyone, or should I quit before I get ahead?

[sevlag]

Alright. Would these seem useful at all to anyone, or should I quit before I get ahead?maybe for those new to it you could do something.

i find it funny that ever since the update mobs have been spawning in segments of my mineshafts that are lit up like a christmas tree

[t3h m00kz]

@Mooks: You can also generate that one stone type obsidian by placing Lava inside water.

Whoa, really? Is it infinite?

If so, I'm rebuilding all my shit

[thehoodedsmack]

Whoa, really? Is it infinite?

If so, I'm rebuilding all my shit

Lava doesn't work like water, in that you can't place two lava blocks two spaces apart and expect the middle space to become filled with lava. There's a finite amount in each map section. However, there's a whole bunch of lava in the Nether, and it'll generate more as you explore further, so theoretically, you can get an infinite amount.

Also, the method of generating Obsidian is to have water flow over a lava block. You can get up to seven at a time I believe.

[t3h m00kz]

oh yeah I knew that stuff. Obsidian is as easy as a single bucket of water

I haven't had the nerve to explore the nether yet, the screams freak me out

[thehoodedsmack]

I haven't had the nerve to explore the nether yet, the screams freak me out

I play on Peaceful. The world is far less frightening.

[ICEE]

unfortunately you can't use a bucket o water in the nether, it burns up immediately. Its best to take many buckets, fill them with lava, and transform them into obsidian back home.

[thehoodedsmack]

That's what I do too. On top of that, I can't mine Obsidian, 'cause I got no diamond tools. I just pour the lava into a frame.

[ICEE]

no diamond eh? You should spend some time mining the caverns in the overworld then. Also, i've noticed that it is a wise idea to mine the area surrounding diamond ore as well as the ore itself. Sometimes diamond ore blocks will separate themselves from the rest of the vein, and people will never find them because they're at a diagonal, or a block or two off from the pack. Just a little tip for the future.

[sevlag]

buckets dont, but water blocks ARE NOT affected

[Limited]

Download that XRay app, can show you where all types of block are, that is if your real desperate.

[ThePlague]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9VveM723p8
Better? Once I hit about day 4 or 5 it'll get way more interesting.

[Dwood]

From this: http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?22074-Minecraft&p=561775&viewfull=1#post561775

To this:

http://www.tunnelentrance.com/minecraft/aboveground.png
http://www.tunnelentrance.com/minecraft/underground.png

[n00b1n8R]

I play on Peaceful. The world is far less frightening.
:frogout:

[MXC]

So I'm just working on my pit, as we all do one night ingame, I look down, and I see this:

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/15/minecraftskeletonriding.png

That's right, a skeleton riding a spider. I'm scared.

To prove I'm not bullshitting you guys, I just risked my life to get a closer picture:
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1369/minecraftskeletononspid.png
Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shirt oh shit.

[InnerGoat]

Yeah that stuff happens ^^

[MXC]

Daylight isn't killing this thing. I'm just going to find a spot and wait it out.

[Warsaw]

So I'm just working on my pit, as we all do one night ingame, I look down, and I see this:

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/15/minecraftskeletonriding.png

That's right, a skeleton riding a spider. I'm scared.

To prove I'm not bullshitting you guys, I just risked my life to get a closer picture:
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1369/minecraftskeletononspid.png
Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shirt oh shit.

So now we know what happened to Moria.

[ThePlague]

DoM 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qdi8tCZidI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnAfCXeGbqA

[t3h m00kz]

I've never seen that... Is that a bug or an actual enemy variant?

[CodeBrain]

I've never seen that... Is that a bug or an actual enemy variant?

The skeleton and spider mob are real, however it is a rare mob.

[ThePlague]

Should I make a new thread for these, or keep annoying people by posting them here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX0Fxd4eZWQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtV5Os_8U4Y

[Dwood]

Minecraft Cart boosters!

gPls6LXlkGI

Minecraft automatic cart tracks!

Ayhg-yizLUI

Making your minecraft cart tracks even moar awsum:

0v5cAFYouWY

[Con]

LOL

Sl36SsszqpY

[InnerGoat]

That was quite the action scene there!!

[t3h m00kz]

FUCKING CREEPERS MAN

[n00b1n8R]

I have won the LARP
THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS YOU POWERGAMING CUNT http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-argh.gif

[t3h m00kz]

14KwzYBjm-8

minecraft summed up in 20 seconds

E: Also. MY ISLAND:

2-RjX6n96u4

Sorry it's so dark. I swear the source video wasn't as dark...

[n00b1n8R]

Sup peasants.
(world started just after Halloween update)
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-11_000924.png
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-11_000952.png
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-11_001224.png
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-13_001121.png

Graveyard (I fill in a grave after each death, put a little headstone to say what I achieved in that life, basically to keep score :p)
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-12_163552.png
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-11_001307.png

dat view 3:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-10_232222.png
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-10_231333.png

Also the first booster in my subway system which now links spawn to my island and my island to a distant continent where I'll set up a new settlement.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-12_112320.png
Cheated for the pick to dig it out and the rails/carts because fuck it uses way too much iron.

Also a tree I came across on the new continent that was on fire when I got there. Freaked me out >_>
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/Minecraft/Halloween%20world5/2010-11-12_225220.png

Got my own little island with a full 360 view of the area from inside my house.
Burnt most of the house down one time, that was fun. Spawn's over in the desert you can see in one of the sunrise shots.

[DEElekgolo]

I haven't played minecraft in over 2 weeks due to a pooped computer...

[ICEE]

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z295/iron_clad_photo/house.png?t=1289689582

As you can see, mobs are no longer an issue.

[sevlag]

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Keyes/minecraft/javaw_2010-11-13_15-25-02-69.bmp

well there goes my booster track

[Dwood]

That Sucks.

[sevlag]

That Sucks.
whats worse is i turned around and there were 2 more :D

[n00b1n8R]

Do you guys actually have trouble with fighting monsters (given a few seconds warning)?

[sevlag]

Do you guys actually have trouble with fighting monsters (given a few seconds warning)?
well because creepers are meant to be silent until they get next to you, yes...

spiders and skeletons are no problem however and zombies i barely see

[ICEE]

no, but they're overwhelming in numbers.

[Donut]

skeletons are by far my most hated mob (not counting the ghast, because thats a fucking given, ok.). i always end up getting hit a couple times before i manage to get close enough to do any damage. its the fact that they can attack from a range that i have issues with. i dont usually carry a bow with me either, but i suppose thats my fault. i never used to have issues with creepers, but now i seem to be getting blown up more. idk. zombies are not a problem, and you just have to know when to swing to knock back a spider.

[n00b1n8R]

Skele's are usually a problem for me when I'm either surrounded or don't have strafing room (eg caves). Otherwise you can walk around them faster than their arrows can move to hit you.
Seriously though, get a bowe and always have it in an inventory slot. they're so fucking useful and since Notch made arrows way cheaper, there's no reason not to use them.

[Donut]

wait what about arrows being cheaper?

[n00b1n8R]

wait what about arrows being cheaper?
The original recipe for arrows required an ingot of iron where you now put flint. You can imagine why that was changed :p
~the more you know~

Also, can anybody link me an un-modded minecraft.jar please? I think I broke something and I can't find my backup -_-

[InnerGoat]

delete the bin folder and it'll redownload

[iizahsum]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeV0XB-w_yM
Not mine, but I have now officially started building one.

[Dwood]

Download that kid's world, he posted it on the comments.

[n00b1n8R]

delete the bin folder and it'll redownload
Thanks, I can hear sound again :D

[Dwood]

Help minecraft win the Moddb indiedb game of the year!

http://www.indiedb.com/games/minecraft

http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/319/318820/ModDB_Incentive.png

[Donut]

there is no doubt in my mind that minecraft will win. i cant even think of anything to run against it

[ThePlague]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVLX3ZVEdOA
it isn't a lot of TNT, but it was fun.

[sevlag]

creeper carts are getting annoying

[Moses]

In case anyone was wondering (or if anyone is even left in these seemingly dead forums) I've made a watch and portal patch for higher res textures in minecraft. watch only works at 32x32 tho since i can't seem to figure out what else needs to be changed. Portal works at 32, 64, and 128. i could make a 256 if needed but that's just kinda unnecessary tbh.

edit: forgot the link

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=87661
(http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=87661&start=30)

[ThePlague]

New update tomorrow too! Adds you being able to die in SMP, and you can kill other players, mobs, etc.

[sevlag]

New update tomorrow too! Adds you being able to die in SMP, and you can kill other players, mobs, etc.
<redacted>

ok now i see it, but prepare for grifers to kill you and take your shit

[ThePlague]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P5Md3EofgI

Got some video of us actually doing a quick castle war, i'll upload it later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRKR805ahMw

yeah...

[FireDragon04]

I love this game :neckbeard:

xvgvotRJ6mE

[sevlag]

player damage makes SMP...interesting, now if we could oinly get auto cart to work

[DEElekgolo]

Remember when notch updated minecraft?
Man those were the days!

[dark navi]

Remember when notch updated minecraft?
Man those were the days!

Man, I remember that, 4 days ago.

[Cortexian]

A patch a day keeps the trolls away!

[n00b1n8R]

I was actually getting concerned about Notch's updates for a while there but now he's back to good old grinding.
Haters gona hate.

[Con]

Thought I'd spend some time tonight working on my house/fortress. Also built my first Nether portal. Fuck ghasts.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8547/derpl.jpg

[n00b1n8R]

(To take screenshots, press F1 and F2)
Nice house, shame about the cobblestone though!

[Con]

You see I was in freefall at the time (that's my max height tower there on the left). I'm gradually converting it away from cobble.

edit:
inside the house

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4565/81942985.jpg

Where I entertain the guests aka my pumpkin

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2118/14506996.jpg

Front entryway, trying to think of what to put in front of the fireplace as an interest piece.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2682/12991296.jpg

Upstairs, eventually going to be a library once I make more bookshelves.

[n00b1n8R]

Great to see a house with some proper design instead of a mashup of rooms with no obvious purpose or flow.

[Dwood]

I want to see a portal mod for Minecraft so bad.

[Con]

I think the addition of magical items would be cool, or even adding magical properties to existing items. You would only be able to get the magic dust from the nether.

[Dwood]

With Beta comes a larger focus on polish and content, and we’ll start early on with adding proper modding support with a stable API

Also, buy now or else you miss out on any updates after minecraft reaches a 'stable' state!

[n00b1n8R]

I want to see a portal mod for Minecraft so bad.
Portal as in Valve's Portal?
It's already been done lol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBIqoBP_y4)

[Heathen]

Fun looking too.

[Dwood]

Autocanopy.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7439/20101207213912.png

[Phopojijo]

I love this gameGot to said, your videos are actually quite entertaining. Good job.

[paladin]

Just updated my texture pack and installed a few mods:
http://image.odinseye.org/images/newmod.png

http://image.odinseye.org/images/201012lhl.png

[ThePlague]

What texture pack is that? It makes it actually seem HD.

[ICEE]

Gahh, shame on you for posting such an awesome screen without posting a DL link :C

Share please

[Dwood]

Makes it look clean up close and farther away! Nice.

[n00b1n8R]

Gahh, shame on you for posting such an awesome screen without posting a DL link :C

Share please
reposting this

[n00b1n8R]

After pulling my finger out and using my extensive search-fu, I think I've worked the main ones out:
The lighting (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=55700)
The grass (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=100771)
The map (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=77497)
The texture (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=29164)

Installing all right now (and a few more~)

[iizahsum]

Just bought this game. I love it. That's all.

(goes back to MineCraft)

http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=iizahsum

http://forums.redstonewire.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=14629

that's where I got my skin. I edited a bit though.

[sevlag]

so the beta is out guys...



Working server-side inventory! Finally! And as a result of that, a whole pile of bugs and issues got fixed.
Made SMP servers save chunks way less often in most cases. Chunks don’t resave if they got saved in the last 30 seconds
Moving too far away from a container, or having it blow up, closes the inventory screen
Fixed /kill
Introduced leaf decay again. It acts differently from before
You can now throw eggs
On a whim, added super exclusive clan cloaks for Mojang Employees
When you mouse over a block, its name pops up in a box.
.. and something else, which is even more rare

[iizahsum]

Any good servers to play on?

[Heathen]

Any reason I would get lag in minecraft? I'm damn sure my computer should be able to handle it.

[Heathen]

nvm got it

[dark navi]

Beta essentially broke SMP, made many people lag in SP because of Leaf Decay... Hopefully he will fix before Christmas.

[dazman23]

SMP is fixed now just need to the hosts to update their servers as no one will be able to connect as keeps on saying outdated server.

[n00b1n8R]

Shame about all the mods :ugh:

[dark navi]

I have my server running a temp. map, just because we are waiting on a stable release of hMod to keep our actual map out of chaos. Wow, maps can get really screwed up, fast:
http://www.odinseye.org/minecraft/

[Con]

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9629/1293168112338.jpg
http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Conscars

just finished my skin, inspired by http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3500/balthazarx.jpg

[iizahsum]

http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Conscars

just finished my skin, inspired by http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3500/balthazarx.jpg

Balthazar from Guild Wars. Badass.

Edit: well the dervish form.

[FireDragon04]

PEgrara0Yvo

Merry Christmas everyone!

[Con]

Nice vid. I didn't see any snow in my world though :\

[n00b1n8R]

Nice vid. I didn't see any snow in my world though :\
Get in a boat, don't stop till you find ice. It's there.

[Con]

Here's what I've been working on in my friend's SMP server. It's all legit.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.34.56.png

The pit under my house's guest wing. Took my friend and I about 5 hours to dig and goes down to layer 10. That clump under my house is no longer there, made it to finish the underside.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.44.28.png

The front view of my house. Landscaping is a WIP! Those reeds will be moved to the back yard eventually.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.47.24.png

Rear view of my house, showing my back yard which will end up including some sort of garden/farm with trees.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.50.23.png

Floor 3, the library.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.51.00.png

Floor 2, central storage and processing.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.51.47.png

First floor main entry with water feature, kinda like a nether portal...but water...

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.52.40.png

First floor lounge, similar to the one in my SP map that I posted here a while ago.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.53.26.png

Guest wing hallway, featuring 4 rooms for other players in the server to customize as their own.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.53.12.png

Inside of a guest room.

http://con.modacity.net/minecraft/2010-12-28_20.54.07.png

My room, don't know what I'm gonna do with the space yet. I'll probably bring that furthest wall in a bit to make more room in the storage floor.

[paladin]

On my server, nether portals are used for teleporting. Works out pretty well.

[Con]

Is there some mod to make them do that or do they just do that on their own in MP?

[n00b1n8R]

It's a mod.

[paladin]

There are plguins to make them do it.

[Phopojijo]

There are plguins to make them do it.Hot Coffee Plugin?

[Dwood]

Planetoids minecraft. The only way to go.

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=89218

[paladin]

Besides looking cool, thats dumb.

my minecraft creations

all legit except fly mod
SP

http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-1.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-2.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-3.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-4.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-5.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-6.jpg


SMP

http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-7.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-8.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-9.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-10.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-11.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-12.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-13.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-14.jpg
http://files.odinseye.org/Untitled-15.jpg

[ThePlague]

New update:


New features:
* Note blocks (right click to tune, trigger to play)
* 15 wool dyes
* A new water dwelling mob
* New tree types
* Reeds magically turned into sugar canes. They still make paper.
* A bunch of new crafting recipes
* One secret useful block
* One secret pretty block
* Cake
* AND MOAR. (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history)



Bugfixes:
* Paintings work in multiplayer
* Disconnecting while riding no longer keeps the player in the world
* A bunch more state is properly synched in multiplayer
* Fixed colors going weird on PowerPC
* Fixed a horrible chunk reload loop in singleplayer
* Fixed most lighting bugs in newly generated SMP maps
* Falling sand behaves better in SMP
* Fixed a few crash on load level bugs


Now I need to wait for the fly mod to get patched :(

[Cagerrin]

Spiders can climb up walls.

fuckfuckfuck

[ThePlague]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEPVYrltke4

[Con]

The ending was great.

[Dwood]

Found 2 sugarcane deals 3 high. Turned them into this:

http://www.modacity.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1941

I swear I didn't hax it in!

[Con]

ewFrgDPCgGA

[MXC]

Do we have a SMP server yet?

[EX12693]

wmclan.net is borked... :/

[ThePlague]

This is why Minecraft is great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuWW9bEfzvs

Now that's creativity.

[sevlag]

im l.azy, anyone got a texture pack where the stone is opaque, i need to look for diamonds

EDIT:
nvm just replaced the copy glass's texture over the slot that references smooth stone

[Darqeness]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ts8wOy_oX7w

Awesome.

[FireDragon04]

I still bloody love this game - been playing WAYYYY to much though.
On my server me and my friend built this...

KXZGZcYPNF8

Let's get this thread going again maybe?

[ThePlague]

Once I get more done with my castle i'll post a vidya, but for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4oz4mcOP14

[Cortexian]

I still bloody love this game - been playing WAYYYY to much though.
On my server me and my friend built this...

KXZGZcYPNF8

Let's get this thread going again maybe?
What are those glowing windows you guys used? Is that a custom texture pack or something?

[n00b1n8R]

It'll be a glowstone (or jackolantern :B) retexture.

What's the IP dragon?

[FireDragon04]

What are those glowing windows you guys used? Is that a custom texture pack or something?

Yeah we use a texture pack called Doku craft, love it!


It'll be a glowstone (or jackolantern :B) retexture.

What's the IP dragon?

We've whitelisted the server for now, but were going to let about 10 people or so in this week some time.

That video has pretty much exploded over night got 2,000 views while i was sleeping.

[ThePlague]

Here's my castle so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN4UECrhpas

Still probably going to add to it though.

[FireDragon04]

Looking good Plague, I love floating castles - they look so cool!

So we made another timelapse... yeah we're getting addicted to big builds:
uYnjfE9EY0M

[n00b1n8R]

Every time I try one of those temples, it end sup looking like a funky stepped pyramid, totally stealing your design~

(do a skull fort of doom with lava and shit)

[Cortexian]

Stealing your zen-garden wall design for something I'm building in my SP world...

I have to say, I like the texture pack you guys are using but I'm not a fun of texture packs that change things completely. I mean if I jump on your server I'll see a bunch of jack-o-lanterns instead of awesome lights heh.

[dark navi]

Stealing your zen-garden wall design for something I'm building in my SP world...

I have to say, I like the texture pack you guys are using but I'm not a fun of texture packs that change things completely. I mean if I jump on your server I'll see a bunch of jack-o-lanterns instead of awesome lights heh.

I am pretty sure those are lightstone blocks, not jack-o-lanterns.

[ThePlague]

Modacity Minecraft Modding Team? (http://notch.tumblr.com/post/4955141617/the-plan-for-mods)

[Cortexian]

I am pretty sure those are lightstone blocks, not jack-o-lanterns.
My point still stands. To people without the texture pack it would just look weird.

[Dwood]

He's going to charge something like 75$ for full-on access, imo.

Guess it's free with the game(??)

Edit: I feel like Notch is saying what this guy on Twitter said:

"I'm ready to retire on your money and my broken promises. Here's my source code, finish the game for me."

But I'd rather have the source code than not have it!

[ThePlague]

I say, as new leader of MMMT, once we get THE TAGS the source code, we make trains and cars. Sel approves?

[paladin]

First make pokemon encounters.

[JackalStomper]

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/FortressCraft-Chapter-1/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258550821 Are you serious microsoft

[TeeKup]

Wait. What?

[cheezdue]

Why are there so many of these block building games?

[Cortexian]

Because they're fun as hell. But Minecraft is the first and best so.

[TVTyrant]

I'd be down for XBox Minecraft if I can export the maps to Halo Forge :P

[jcap]

Wow, it looks like a real game. When is that coming to the PC so we don't need to get our asses raped by Java anymore?

E: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=163285

[TVTyrant]

Is it by the Minecraft people?

[Cortexian]

No, someone who just ripped off his idea. I'll never play that because of it's just a copy.

[jcap]

It actually looks infinitely better than Minecraft. Aside from just looking way better, you can also go into flycam to place blocks much easier. It's not focused solely on mining, but rather building.

Notch lost his chance when he decided to slack off like a lazy fuck and not improve his game or make it multi-platform. After its initial success, he could have hired a team of people and gotten several millions of dollars from investors to start a studio, but he didn't. He's a goddamn fucking idiot as far as I see him.

[Cortexian]

The shitty graphics are part of Minecraft's appeal. You can fly around in Minecraft as well and place blocks, even in mid-air with the right mods.

[TVTyrant]

Not everyone knows how to use the mods?

[Cortexian]

Drag and drop some files into the minecraft.jar using WinRAR, profit.

[Dwood]

After its initial success, he could have hired a team of people and gotten several millions of dollars from investors to start a studio, but he didn't. He's a goddamn fucking idiot as far as I see him.

Agreed. He's the dumbest developer I have ever seen. If it weren't for the one original idea he ever had he and his company would never have gone anywhere. In fact, they should have set the entire company on minecraft, and only one or two people developing the next game. They've only made bad decision after bad decision. Mark my words, those people in Mojang are dumb.

But even after that, the biggest thing that pushed me to a conclusion that Notch should never be allowed to do what he wants to do, ever, was the trip where he went with that bajillionaire and didn't take advantage of meeting all those billionaires. I mean, heck, it sounded like all he did was go and get drunk when what he should have done was talked to all those people and got them on his contacts list, because those would have been the guys to invest in his company.

The March 30th blog tells it all.

[Limited]

Agreed. He's the dumbest developer I have ever seen. If it weren't for the one original idea he ever had he and his company would never have gone anywhere. In fact, they should have set the entire company on minecraft, and only one or two people developing the next game. They've only made bad decision after bad decision. Mark my words, those people in Mojang are dumb.

But even after that, the biggest thing that pushed me to a conclusion that Notch should never be allowed to do what he wants to do, ever, was the trip where he went with that bajillionaire and didn't take advantage of meeting all those billionaires. I mean, heck, it sounded like all he did was go and get drunk when what he should have done was talked to all those people and got them on his contacts list, because those would have been the guys to invest in his company.

The March 30th blog tells it all.
My word, you complain Notch is stupid yet you really need to look at yourself sometimes Dwood.

Why exactly is he stupid for not signing with a publisher or licenser? You do understand, taking that big leap has consequences. Having lots of money to back a project does not equal a good quality product. If he had, people would be yelling from the rooftops that hes a sell out and the game won't be the same...and that would be 100% true.

I commend Notch for not falling into that trap, you can even read from his 30 March blogpost (which you ironically quoted) that he is not about all the money or fame. He just wants to be able to make things, the way he wants.

You need to understand, Notch built the bulk of the game by himself. He can handle making it on his own for now. Is focus now leaning onto the next game? Yes it is, personally I feel Notch is becoming slightly tired of Minecraft and the 'newness' has worn off. That would happen with or without financial backing fyi.

You claim he wouldnt have got any where without his one original idea, that is outrageously untrue. He got to where he is by harnessing that idea and crafting a well-throughout quality product. (I use product loosely).

You do realise, if he had financial backing it would have meant no more Minecraft, until a full release? The game would be significantly different, as you can see Notch is starting to use people mod ideas and putting them into the game. This is not a "oh im running out of ideas" situation, he is looking at what people want. He then wants to provide an implementation of it that suits the style of the game, and allows it to be 'right out of the box.

Dwood its easy to say "yeah he should have taken the money" yet you have not though it through. Plus, hindsight is 20-20 vision.

[Dwood]

Read my post again, I'm not saying that he should sign with a publisher or licenser, I'm talking about him passing up having people financially invest in mojang so he can hire more people to work on the code for the game, and become a full-on studio, not just 6(?) guys in an office. The kind of people he went to meet wouldn't be dumb like a publisher would be.

Granted, it's possible that he took contacts down, but in all honesty he probably only got the guy with the jet that took him there's contact.

And second, my beef with Notch isn't centered around financial backing. It's that the question lies around this: Do they have the ability to make another original idea or product that can keep the company in business for x years, as well as the capability to actually do it?

[jcap]

Hindsight is 20/20, but it doesn't excuse poor management. The point is, he doesn't know a good opportunity when it hits him in the face. He has a product that is making profit. After the first 1 million copies sold, he should have started looking into expansion. Let's say the first 1 million copies were all sold at $5 a pop. That would mean he made $5 million in revenue, and he probably has very few expenses eating away at his profit.

He could have hired someone to write up a solid business plan that could be presented to investors. Looking at the initial success and huge revenue, he wouldn't have had to look far. Even if he wasn't in it for the money, to avoid disappointing their fans they should have had the vision of making a "real" game for multiple platforms to reach an even wider audience. They didn't even have to sign with a publisher, except for the console versions!

Now, they've missed that opportunity. They had the chance to be first out of the gate, but instead we're going to see a ton of spinoffs that are making up for where Minecraft fell short.

[Limited]

Read my post again, I'm not saying that he should sign with a publisher or licenser, I'm talking about him passing up having people financially invest in mojang so he can hire more people to work on the code for the game, and become a full-on studio, not just 6(?) guys in an office. The kind of people he went to meet wouldn't be dumb like a publisher would be.

Granted, it's possible that he took contacts down, but in all honesty he probably only got the guy with the jet that took him there's contact.

And second, my beef with Notch isn't centered around financial backing. It's that the question lies around this: Do they have the ability to make another original idea or product that can keep the company in business for x years, as well as the capability to actually do it?

You have beef with a guy, you do not know, and have never met JUST because your unsure he has the ability to make another original idea to keep the company in business. Do you understand how idiotic that sounds? Your angry at a guy, because your concerned he might not be able to carry on doing the things he does. You complain you don't want to Notch to be able to do the things he does - because your worried he won't be able to do the things he does in the future? Dwood, your methodology is absolutely baffling.

Your only assuming that Notch has been crystal clear on his blog. Notch is the CEO of a company, he cant just go on his blog posting about rumours and unconfirmed dealings. Certain things need to be kept private, especially financial things.

Your also assuming the guy that went to the office was actually a game developer backer. Looking back at the article to me it sounds like hes a fan that just happens to be rich. He was interested in the way the company works and wanted to have a look around, he then treated the three developers to a flight to London to go to a swacky party where wealthy people go to. -Not every rich person is an investor Dwood.

You also do realise it might have been an April fools joke? If he hasnt set up the date correctly on his blog, it could have meant it was Apr 1st his date but not in blog date.

Dwood, are you trolling me or are you really this stupid?


Jcap, yes he probably is business stupid, hes a developer not a business man. But he has thought hard about what Minecraft is and what his vision of the game is. Becoming "a full game" would ruin Minecraft. The whole essence of Minecraft is the simpliciy of it all, the cookie cutter style developer that allows for modular code to be added.

Personally I dont see what Minecraft can expand into, without destroying the complete makeup of what it is. Minecraft is a minimalistic style game.


They had the chance to be first out of the gate, but instead we're going to see a ton of spinoffs that are making up for where Minecraft fell short.
Lol, what has Minecraft fallen short of, that copy-cat (which by the way, are leaning off the name) games have mastered?

[Dwood]

I'm saying that it's aggravating to see a financially stable, capable product miss out on going even further because it can, but due to developer... laziness(?) hasn't gone half as far as it could. He made Minecraft and, a WORLD of opportunities opened up and smacked him in the face, but he turned them down... He's had people volunteer to program for Minecraft FOR FREE/CHEAP and they turn them down. I do have beef with him I guess, but my points still stand. Mojang decided also to leave him as the ONLY developer for the game... what are they smoking?



Your also assuming the guy that went to the office was actually a game developer backer.
I'm assuming that he's a rich guy, who knows how to make, and keep money. It doesn't matter where you invest if the people you're investing in have a product with financial value, are going to do their job, and like doing it. You don't have to invest solely in one market in order to make it as an investor. Provided notch got the people who were there's contacts, if he needed money or whatever all he'd need is someone to present a biz plan to those people. Mojang has a great original product, I just don't think they have their heads screwed on straight.



Looking back at the article to me it sounds like hes a fan that just happens to be rich. He was interested in the way the company works and wanted to have a look around, he then treated the three developers to a flight to London to go to a swacky party where wealthy people go to.

Which was a golden opportunity that, as far as I'm aware, he missed out on and instead used it to get drunk.


-Not every rich person is an investor Dwood.

90% of all mega-uber rich persons are an investor, if not all. Wealth isn't static, and the best way to make and keep it, is through investing your money in something.

[Limited]

He was a rich person, not a "mega-uber rich". Also he may have won the lottery. I know two millionaires (a friend of mine, two of his uncles) and they have done a crap job with the money. My point still stands that your methodology and take on things are utter stupidy, reflecting upon your "hes the dumbest developer ever".

[Dwood]

He was a rich person, not a "mega-uber rich". Also he may have won the lottery. I know two millionaires (a friend of mine, two of his uncles) and they have done a crap job with the money.

Lotto money doesn't buy jets, and if he won the lotto or something similar, I expect the money to not have automatically granted the guy access to rich people's parties. And 2nd: if a person owns a jet, they have ~15 million or more (usually) as total value. You don't just spend ~2 million (once tax hits that, it aint pretty either) on a private jet once you have say, 3 million euros.

I've worked with my grandpa at a private airport he used to own, and got to meet people with very, very large net worths. Every single one is constantly investing in some projects here and there.



My point still stands that your methodology and take on things are utter stupidy, reflecting upon your "hes the dumbest developer ever".

There's nothing stupid in stating that the company has made an astounding number (and continue to do so) of bad decisions.

[ThePlague]

You three are sounding like the hundreds that were spamming reddit yesterday :\

It's Notch's game, we're players.

[Cortexian]

Dwood, I know like, 20 Oil company CEO's that run varying levels of successful companies. Some with net worth in the billion dollar range. They don't invest there personal wealth in anything except oil-related projects and such, even if one of them thought Minecraft was the best thing to ever happen to video gaming I doubt they would care enough to invest into something so far out of there "realm".

I'd expect most CEO's to be similar to this, the only people you'd see investing in Minecraft are people with inherited wealth and/or someone who won a lotto. Note that not all countries tax lotto winnings either, so depending where they win they could very well become millionaires with $15,000,000 in the bank overnight. Here in Canada for instance, Lotto 6/49 hits the $20,000,000 mark often and I've seen it go as high as $77,000,000 that I can recall.

[Dwood]

I doubt they would care enough to invest into something so far out of there "realm".

Granted.



I'd expect most CEO's to be similar to this,


I'm talking about the people who would be on the 'board' members of the oil company. And then there's a few other discrepancies about the oil industry that makes it different from other industries but I digress.



the only people you'd see investing in Minecraft are people with inherited wealth and/or someone who won a lotto.


Yeah, because they'd be investing by buying the game. You invest in the company, not the game. :P. And inherited wealth? Are you saying that only people who are more likely to be irresponsible with their money are going to invest in Mojang? Which is ridiculous.



Note that not all countries tax lotto winnings either,


1. I figured it was the same, because here in USA and depending on the state, the end taxes on the lotto wind up being about ~50% of the winnings, so if you win the 20 mil lotto you only have 10 mil. 2. Lotto was pretty unrelated.

[paladin]

I like this game.

[Dwood]

I like this game.

Me too. Too bad it isn't better.

[Limited]

Me too. Too bad it isn't better.
Then make your own. Oh wait sorry you were too busy failing to make that HEK All in One idiotic mod tool with those ridiculous claims your team claims to be able to pull off.

Its possible to have too much of a good thing Dwood. Like heroin

[Limited]

umad
My goodness, I might have to switch my opinion about you.

From village idiot to complete and utter neanderthal.

How would you improve Minecraft, Dwood. With an audcaious claim of it should be better, you must have some great ideas.

[Patrickssj6]

From village idiot to complete and utter neanderthal.

Who had a bigger brain than you do now :v:

[sevlag]

done with MC, its SSP is boring and there are no good servers that allow the occasional mischief making

shit gets stale

[Donut]

dwood, jesus christ, maybe he did make some bad corporate moves in your opinion, but please tell me how that makes the game itself worse? at this point it sounds like youre just upset at what notch did at a corporate level and youre taking it out on the game to defame notch even more.

please, do explain to us what the problems with THE GAME ITSELF are, and how you would have made it differently.


and as far as investment is concerned, who is he going to go to for investment? as far as i know, no big company is going to invest in a virtually unknown gaming company unless that big company is itself a game company. we have seen it with virtually every first person shooter out there today: when a big company has money in a game design, they impose their will to get the game to sell as well as possible. notch doesnt want that. it goes against what he believes in as a developer. he wants minecraft to be indie. the man has millions of dollars and, like one of you said, very few expenses. why the fuck would he abandon his beliefs of being indie WHEN IT HAS MADE HIM THIS KIND OF MONEY?

[ThePlague]

Hey guys.
It's Notch's game, we're players.

[Donut]

that doesnt mean we arnt allowed to express our beliefs on the game or the developers

[Dwood]

please tell me how that makes the game itself worse?

Okay, so it's not Notch i'm mad at entirely, it's Mojang. Notch has passed up a lot of opportunities but that would have been made up for if the company didn't make bad decision after bad decision.



at this point it sounds like youre just upset at what notch did at a corporate level and youre taking it out on the game to defame notch even more.


At that post, it was semi-unrelated, however all corporate decisions in a company that small have immediate effects on the game.



please, do explain to us what the problems with THE GAME ITSELF are, and how you would have made it differently.


I'm going to name a few things here:
1. Lag
2. Taking in mods to replace developer coding.
3. Lack of updates- at this rate with notch being the only person working on the game, and the impossibly long development it takes, does the company even care about the game?

1. A large amount of lag could have been mitigated if Notch had coded the game in another yet still cross-platform language that compiles to machine language like C++, and would have left him a large window to create a real modding api. Granted the game wouldn't have gone so far so fast if it weren't for the mods but I would have made that concession. Currently, the game requires me to use a mod in order to get more than 5 fps as well.

2. As I noted, instead of sending all of Mojang's resources into development of their currently selling, tried and true title that has yet to hit a 'released' state, they are using mods to replace development time.

3. This goes back to the 'corporate' decision to leave Notch as the only developer for minecraft which is still in beta! Either their next game is going to hit home-run or they don't know how to run a software/video game company. Edit: You don't leave a product halfway through development to develop another one. You put all resources in the main product, and set minimal people to work on the new product or stall it entirely until the main product has either been released or reached the end of its development lifetime

I'm not going to talk about specific features here but we all know of where minecraft has fallen short.



and as far as investment is concerned, who is he going to go to for investment?


Mojang has a solid product that has sold over 2 million copies. Who wouldn't go for it? And You're thinking that in order to get investments you have to go to companies.


Read my post again, I'm not saying that he should sign with a publisher or licenser, I'm talking about him passing up having people financially invest in mojang so he can hire more people to work on the code for the game, and become a full-on studio, not just 7 guys in an office. The kind of people he went to meet wouldn't be dumb like a publisher would be.

[Donut]

1. A large amount of lag could have been mitigated if Notch had coded the game in another yet still cross-platform language that compiles to machine language like C++, and would have left him a large window to create a real modding api. Granted the game wouldn't have gone so far so fast if it weren't for the mods but I would have made that concession. Currently, the game requires me to use a mod in order to get more than 5 fps as well.
lag has never been an issue for me, but i definitely agree on coding this in something a little more suited for a full game.



2. As I noted, instead of sending all of Mojang's resources into development of their currently selling, tried and true title that has yet to hit a 'released' state, they are using mods to replace development time.
but is this actually a problem? i dont see this affecting the gameplay in any way except making it so i dont have to worry about installed mods breaking with official updates. i mean yeah we're still waiting on the proposed lanterns and zombie siege and capture the flag, but im not worried that we'll never see it happen.



3. This goes back to the 'corporate' decision to leave Notch as the only developer for minecraft which is still in beta! Either their next game is going to hit home-run or they don't know how to run a software/video game company. Edit: You don't leave a product halfway through development to develop another one. You put all resources in the main product, and set minimal people to work on the new product or stall it entirely until the main product has either been released or reached the end of its development lifetime
in most cases id agree with you. but the game is already in a stable playable state, with the updates being more of "add-ons" than completing an "incomplete" game. ill agree that saying its beta is a misnomer, but with what theyre doing here they might as well remove the idea of a "final product" and just keep updating the game with new stuff periodically.
i may be misunderstanding what youre saying here, though. i recall before somebody (you?) said it seems like notch getting bored with minecraft, and now it seems like hes abandoning it. if thats what you mean, im kind of 50-50 there. dev times support that notion, but the fact that things are being made at all counters it.



I'm not going to talk about specific features here but we all know of where minecraft has fallen short.
well, i was kind of looking for something along the lines of that, since it seemed like you were suggesting the gameplay itself could be better. thats what i took from it anyway.



Mojang has a solid product that has sold over 2 million copies. Who wouldn't go for it? And You're thinking that in order to get investments you have to go to companies.
well thats what im saying. he could form a full company, but from what iv read, i think thats just not what he wants to do. it seems like notch just made a game for fun that hit it big, and hes just cool with the money. is it dumb of notch and mojang economically to not try to get investments? maybe. what im saying is though i dont know who would invest in his company OTHER THAN a gaming corporation that does that sort of thing. i just dont think its feasible to hunt down people who won the lottery or anything like that. if it were me in his place, if i could find somebody who wasnt a gaming company like activision or something, i would go for the investment. if i could only get game companies though, i would seriously consider staying indie, because its my game and ill make it however i want. i dont want you telling me what i have to do to make more money. from what i can gather, thats how notch feels and that, combined with the fact that hes already rich enough to retire anyway, is why notch and mojang arnt going for investments. think about it, the guy could retire on what hes made already, and he made the game for fun in the first place. hes doing what hes doing because he wants to do it, and now he never has to do anything else. why should he make more, potentially unwanted work for himself?

E: i just read your post again. am i mistaken in believing that notch is the head of mojang?

[Dwood]

E: i just read your post again. am i mistaken in believing that notch is the head of mojang?

Yes. Notch is not the head of Mojang.

[Donut]

well then. that does change some things.

[Cortexian]

When did he not become the head of Mojang?

[Dwood]

When did he not become the head of Mojang?

Since ever.

[king_nothing_]

I think it just depends on how you define "head" of the company. Notch owns Mojang, but there is a "managing director" as well as a "business director". It would surprise me if he wasn't closely involved in everything having to do with Minecraft, though.

[Limited]

Okay, so it's not Notch i'm mad at entirely, it's Mojang. Notch has passed up a lot of opportunities but that would have been made up for if the company didn't make bad decision after bad decision.



At that post, it was semi-unrelated, however all corporate decisions in a company that small have immediate effects on the game.



I'm going to name a few things here:
1. Lag
2. Taking in mods to replace developer coding.
3. Lack of updates- at this rate with notch being the only person working on the game, and the impossibly long development it takes, does the company even care about the game?

1. A large amount of lag could have been mitigated if Notch had coded the game in another yet still cross-platform language that compiles to machine language like C++, and would have left him a large window to create a real modding api. Granted the game wouldn't have gone so far so fast if it weren't for the mods but I would have made that concession. Currently, the game requires me to use a mod in order to get more than 5 fps as well.

2. As I noted, instead of sending all of Mojang's resources into development of their currently selling, tried and true title that has yet to hit a 'released' state, they are using mods to replace development time.

3. This goes back to the 'corporate' decision to leave Notch as the only developer for minecraft which is still in beta! Either their next game is going to hit home-run or they don't know how to run a software/video game company. Edit: You don't leave a product halfway through development to develop another one. You put all resources in the main product, and set minimal people to work on the new product or stall it entirely until the main product has either been released or reached the end of its development lifetime

I'm not going to talk about specific features here but we all know of where minecraft has fallen short.



Mojang has a solid product that has sold over 2 million copies. Who wouldn't go for it? And You're thinking that in order to get investments you have to go to companies.

Do you know understand you have conflicting issues Dwood. You want him to have financial backing, which as I have repeated over and over will have production consequences. Yet you complain that mods are replacing developer code and there is a lack of updates.

How can you not grasp the fact that if it had backing, it is more than likely there would have been no release of the game, until it was complete. The production cycle of Minecraft has helped it improve. Notch would not have seen the mods people are making, he probably would have not thought of the amazing ideas people are making. Not allowing that production cycle would hamper Minecraft and decrease the quality of the product. Its not about "yeah well Minecraft developers are becoming lazy". They want what's best for the game, they want ideas, they want the feedback from players to see how they can improve.

I commend Minecraft guys for actually listening to what players want, and adding it in. Its wonderful to see so much interaction between developer and player.

I remember the massive outcry about not being able to peak over the edge of a block, you had to REALLY carefully navigate to the edge of the block to see it and add a block next to it. People asked Notch to implement a solution...he did. You can now hold shift and you WILL NOT walk off the edge.

It's a small fix, but it improved the game ten-fold.

Notch is the founder and top man in Mojang, Dwood your talking shit.

[Dwood]

I'm sorry, guess I got the difference between Markus Persson and Notch wrong. Then I blame him even more. :P

[Patrickssj6]

Notch is the founder and top man in Mojang, Dwood your talking shit.
Dwood has talking shit? :P

[Dwood]

Notch is the founder and top man in Mojang, Dwood your talking shit.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/122/0/e/notch_does_not_run_mojang_by_dwood15-d3ffv0e.jpg

[paladin]

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/122/0/e/notch_does_not_run_mojang_by_dwood15-d3ffv0e.jpg



Notch is the founder and top man in Mojang, Dwood your talking shit.

http://image.odinseye.org/images/notch.png

[Dwood]

WHAT IS IT.... RAAAARGH

[Dwood]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/290267628.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1304601845&Signature=0r8MJAicw3S%2BWdLoAGrFS9P7UqE%3D

^ Thats in mojang fridge.

[MXC]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/290267628.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1304601845&Signature=0r8MJAicw3S%2BWdLoAGrFS9P7UqE%3D

^ Thats in mojang fridge.
^ Which doesn't have any cheese.

[Donut]

i look at it like this: its notch's game. he made it, and then this mojang happened. notch must have hired the people, including that ceo guy.

either way you cannot sit here and tell me that notch doesnt have a say in the business side of things

[Cortexian]

My recreation of FireDragon04's Japanese building on the Modacity server:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8527/dojo01.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6646/dojo02.jpg
http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/1083/dojo03.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4650/dojo04.jpg
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3230/dojo05.jpg

Zen garden still needs work.

[JackalStomper]

Looks cool, can you not connect it to my tower until I have a chance to set up the station and entrance for the new rail myself? I already have an idea what it will be like.

[Limited]

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/122/0/e/notch_does_not_run_mojang_by_dwood15-d3ffv0e.jpg
Hes also first in line, look at paladins picture. - Your list is just in alphabetical order by first name. Sheesh Dwood, learn the alphabet.

Don't use your American mumbo jumbo on me Dwood, Carl Manneh is Managing Director - He has a more 'business' head that Notch. But Notch still top man, top dawg, top gun whatever you want to call it.

Thats a badass base Freelancer.


Dwood literally cannot read...


(5:25:02 PM) ifoundabuck: http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?22074-Minecraft&p=580706#post580706
(5:25:17 PM) ifoundabuck: you got served
(5:25:36 PM) DazerLaz3r: No you didnt
(5:25:41 PM) DazerLaz3r: 'serve' me
(5:25:45 PM) ifoundabuck: i just did
(5:25:47 PM) DazerLaz3r: that's a screenshot
(5:25:50 PM) ifoundabuck: yeah
(5:25:57 PM) ifoundabuck: you were implying the CEO is on the top?
(5:25:58 PM) DazerLaz3r: directly from the minecraft launcher
(5:26:09 PM) ifoundabuck: at top of list?
(5:26:13 PM) ifoundabuck: i agree hes top of the list
(5:26:16 PM) DazerLaz3r: I'm implying he's the one who makes the executive decisions
(5:26:29 PM) ifoundabuck: ITS FUCKING ALPHABETICAL ORDER YOU IDIOT
(5:26:39 PM) DazerLaz3r: :/
(5:26:58 PM) ifoundabuck: you literally cannot read, it says so in my post

[Dwood]

Don't bring up the dead conversations plzkthx.

[Limited]

You mean like you did, 4 days after my post?

[Cortexian]

Hey hey hey, stop!

[Hunter]

Modacity got a server? That would be good.

[ThePlague]

Modacity got a server? That would be good.
Uhh. (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?23181-Modacity-Minecraft-Server)

[FireDragon04]

I play this game way to much, I'm working on a huge timelapse video at the moment - we're timelapsing an entire city been built over the space of two weeks so... alot of disk space needed.

But other than that Notch is sucking at the moment, he's fixing alot of useful stuff aka 'Bugs' right now such as minecart boosting system... I guess we do have those shitty little booster rails now.

Weather is super annoying when your building, i disabled it on the server I own, it just annoyed me and all the users... it seems way to frequent online too... not sure if thats just an SMP thing or if its like that in single player too.

Default textures just seem outdated and ugly now, Dokucraft (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=224969) is the way to go, still keeps the games aesthetic but looks 100 times better, <3 it!

Other than that, I’m going to start playing single player again to get back into the whole survival thing, which I haven't done for a good few months, should see me over until the release of LA Noire too, which will no doubt take alot of my time up.

[Amit]

FUCK MINECRAFT

that is all :P

Seen some awesome shit, though. That castle thing Freelancer built looks awesome...but at the end of the day it's just blurry blocks.

[neuro]

at the end of the day evey digital artwork is just pixels?

i dont see the logic in it man

[n00b1n8R]

But other than that Notch is sucking at the moment, he's fixing alot of useful stuff aka 'Bugs' right now such as minecart boosting system... I guess we do have those shitty little booster rails now.
He's specifically said he's "fixing" boosters? :gonk:

[FireDragon04]

He's specifically said he's "fixing" boosters? :gonk:

Yeah... lemme find the link...

http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/68693850062995456

That basically means (and he has confirmed since then) booster won't work :(

[n00b1n8R]

Asshole, boosters were my favorite thing in minecraft. The fact you could make a perpetual energy machine was awesome :(

[Donut]

yeah seriously. those new booster tracks are pretty useless, and i JUST FUCKING INSTALLED like 5 booster systems to link my two bases together. god damnit.

[n00b1n8R]

http://notch.tumblr.com/post/5775170768/the-changelist-for-1-6

[Donut]

i will definitely be putting in the obligatory day of minecrafting to play around with the stuff on this update. glad to hear about increased velocity from booster rails too.

[ThePlague]

Donut play on the modacity server!

[Dwood]

* Fixed animals only spawning near light during the night
Whelp there goes any animal farms being useful ever again.

[FireDragon04]

We just made a story video in minecraft:
Bqgh7xHkXSY

[n00b1n8R]

If only minecraft was that awesome :saddowns:
Loved the boat!

[n00b1n8R]

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/224048-creation-the-earth-updated-final/

[chrisk123999]

Just wow.

[king_nothing_]

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/224048-creation-the-earth-updated-final/
Holy fuck.

Holy.......fuck.