Remove Crysis forams

[Dwood]

Just as con noted, why don't we remove the crysis and the Unreal forums, moving their topics to an other games/mods section? Or into the tech thread?

[Con]

I think the question that needs to be asked in addressing this is "what do you guys want the site to be?"

I've argued before that Modacity is trying to be something it's not and that it's futile to try forcing it. We have a number of sections being underused because we simply don't have enough content makers to fill them up with new threads. The way I see it is we're trying to fill big shoes, not that Modacity has no contributors as some people say. Most of our activity is around Halo and the reason is pretty obvious given this community's history. The Studio sees a lot of activity as well and has a nice mixture of mediums and content in general. It seems like the Studio, General Modding, and all the other game engine sections exist for people who are either working on things aside from Halo or who have moved on from Halo to another engine. We certainly aren't attracting any new users because of our Crysis, Source, or Unreal sections. Those engines have their own communities.

I think it's safe to say that if we want to fill up Crysis, Source, and Unreal sections then our current userbase will have to do it. It's unrealistic to expect people to contribute equally to all of our sections given who we are as community. Something that would make more sense to me is merging these low activity sections together into the already existing General Modding section (which currently sees no activity). The news threads from Crysis, Source, and Unreal would go back into Tech Talk since Tech Talk covers gaming discussion but not specifically modding.

[Dwood]

Which I believe is completely appropriate. There really wasn't enough people using those forum sections to warrant having them in the first place and now it's a ghost town. moving Source there too wouldn't hurt either

[Jelly]

remove dwood from forams

[Con]

Serious posts only :|

Does anyone else wanna comment on this? I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts.

[Llama Juice]

I agree with you Con. When I had UT3 projects to show, I'd usually just post them in the Studio anyways, because people not interested in Unreal don't look at the Unreal subforum.

E: Also, for the "What do you want this site to be?" question... It's just a community where a bunch of Halo fans come and feel self important by shitting on other stuff.

I mean, what I want the site to be is entirely unrealistic for what our userbase is... so I say just cater to the userbase.

[Con]

E: Also, for the "What do you want this site to be?" question... It's just a community where a bunch of Halo fans come and feel self important by shitting on other stuff.

That's like saying anyone with a hobby is trying to feel self important...
People have interests aside from Halo, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[Llama Juice]

Haha that's not what I was getting at, it was more of people's attitudes tend to be disrespectful. I know we have our own interests and such. I suppose I'm just tired of certain people and I'm letting that taint my view of the community as a whole.

[Limited]

I propose you remove the said forums, BUT you have to add a Gaming Talk forum (as in tech talk but for gaming only). I'd like this community to be more chatty and open about different games. The forum shouldnt have to be current chat either, for example a thread could be "What did you love about Super Mario", that thread would just die in tech talk, its not really current but would fit in a gaming talk forum.

The general modding forum doesnt really cover it either, I see that as "talk about other games in terms of modding".

Anyways thats what I propose, we have a new forum just for gaming chat. I feel people could post perhaps game design ideas, for people to crit and discuss about, right now theres no real place for it, that won't be swamped with generic tech talk.

[jcap]

I agree, but before we take any step we would need to tag all threads.

[Dwood]

I agree, but before we take any step we would need to tag all threads.

Give me the powers and I'll tag some threads with the tags you want me to use.

[Con]

Prefixes would be good too, might even replace the need for tags in this case. We would just need to add a prefix to every thread in the section like [SOURCE] etc then throw all threads from the sections together. There must be some admin tools for this.

[Guardian]

Maybe a "General Modding" Forum which has the games which a modded a little more than others like UT3 and Crysis as Sub Sections like the Halo CE release section.
That way if people have a game they're modding which isn't on here, they know where to put there news, and if a game comes up enough just put another Sub section in for it.

[Con]

We already have a General Modding section. Clearly nobody notices it, so that's why we should move all the threads into it. Subsections are bad though, I think the admins will agree.

[Dwood]

Jfap needs to give me powers and I'll start tagging some threads in the Unreal sections.

[p0lar_bear]

Ultimately, I'm thinking that we should revert ourselves back to being Halo-centric. Some people showed interest in modding other engines at one point and so we jumped on it, unfortunately there wasn't enough follow-through from everyone, members and staff alike.

Personally, I'm interested in working with Source, however, I don't have the same time and desire I had while I was in high school to learn SSDK/Garry's Mod like I did with the HEK. Unreal? Great engine, but forget it, I really don't feel like trying to learn yet another toolset as part of a hobby.

I'm for the removal and condensing of these forums. I'd like to run more ideas to jcap, Con, Snaf, etc etc on what I'd like to see in a reversion before I say anything else on the matter publicly.

[Donut]

remember the minecraft thread a couple days ago where it was suggested that we have a forum for minecraft, but was ultimately shot down due to the small number of minecraft related threads (re: 1)? i say we do the same for source and unreal. make a sticky, or just one main thread for each and put it in tech talk, like the youtube, pics funny random, and minecraft threads. that way anybody into the engine can run through the small amount of posts in that one thread and comment where appropriate.

the issue there of course is what to do with the existing threads.

[n00b1n8R]

Games sub-section in techtalk (I never used to go there until I realised that was where general games was meant to go :S), general modding section in Games General with all mod related unreal/crysis/source threads and the rest go in the general games (along with the minecraft/Bops/whatever else).

[Timo]

When both forums have only had two threads active in the past 2 months, I think it's pretty safe to say they won't be missed.

jcap if you don't want the 216 threads moved until they're all tagged you either need to do it yourself or give someone the permissions to do so, otherwise nothing, as usual, is going to happen. It'll only take 10 or so minutes.

[Kornman00]

The forums continue to be the forums because the active maintainer of this site is holding out for some future version of vB. Of course, this site has been playing hold-out for many forum related features since it became modacity.

The community continues to be the community because there's nothing causing more people to come in than leave. Think of it as bleeding out with no IV. But don't think I'm saying this community is "dying". Everything has an expiration date; it's either alive or dead.

This site is just a place to host a forum. The forum is probably over 90% Halo based people. Putting the various other engines into a generic forum until there is an actual need to have a separate forum isn't a bad idea. Hell, we kept H3 & Reach together for the longest time until the game came out and people started getting all Forged out, causing specific traffic that necessitated branching.


The end result really doesn't matter to me. I keep the 'all other gaming talk' subforums collapsed. Those engines have communities dedicated to them already which were built from the ground up; just as we are for Halo PC.


Compare this site to an out of work writer. One that doesn't have a dad who says funny shit. The best thing that this site can do now is just start planning and discussing the future. Bungie will have a new franchise coming out that may be for the PC (Bungie have only said it will be cross platform, with job listings for PS3 as well). Either the site considers what the future can bring and how it can apply itself to it, or it will continue to just spiral out of known existence.

We don't need another wheel, we need hover technology.

[Timo]

If an admin could delete the Unreal and Crysis forums that'd be great

[Dwood]

I also think we should merge OT and Community Forums as well... Nothing happens in Community any more anyway.

[Timo]

Motion to delete modacity forums

[L0d3x]

Motion to serve our new God "Dwood"