The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

[Futzy]

Game's finally coming out after 6 years on 11/11/11.
New engines been confirmed

Seeing lots of speculation about #tesv (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23tesv) game engine. It's brand new... and it's spectacular!
http://twitter.com/bethblog

[InnerGoat]

looks like the best game of 2011 already has a date hehehe

[Warsaw]

As long as they get the character proportionality correct, will buy.

[343guiltymc]

As long as they get the character proportionality correct, will buy.
Which games ever get their character proportions right? Just play in first person.

[Warsaw]

Half-Life 2? Halo series? Even Fallout 3 was better than Oblivion, and it too was pretty bad. Seriously, I can't stand playing Oblivion because the characters make me cringe; a black spot in an otherwise lovely game.

[Futzy]

Half-Life 2? Halo series? Even Fallout 3 was better than Oblivion, and it too was pretty bad. Seriously, I can't stand playing Oblivion because the characters make me cringe; a black spot in an otherwise lovely game.
Mods. Its the only thing that makes bethesda's games visually pleasing. They have been saying they will be focusing more on animations and making it look generally better this time. New engine is proof that they are actually trying, to some degree.
Don't judge it till you see screens, but the story is still going to be the reason I buy it.

[Warsaw]

I'm not judging it. I simply said if they fixed all their proportionality woes I will be buying it. I like Oblivion, it just hurts my eyes (Shivering Isles also refuses to install on my PC).

[ejburke]

Is that pronounced Sky-rim or skee-rim or sky-reem or skee-reem? Bethesda would rule gaming if they could make a combat system that was worth a shit.

[Futzy]

Is that pronounced Sky-rim or skee-rim or sky-reem or skee-reem? Bethesda would rule gaming if they could make a combat system that was worth a shit.
I hope so, all of their games are terrible in that regard.

[Dwood]

I loved the battles. :(

I just wish that they could have larger scale battles than they had done in the past... the current ai does terrible in groups more than 3 - 5

[Donut]

bring back spears god dammit.
i actually enjoy morrowind more than oblivion for several reasons, but one of the big ones is because of individual weapon skills. axe and blunt are not the same thing and should not be under the same skill category. also, i want to be able to hit stuff with staffs again. directional blocking wouldnt be terrible either, as in, blocking to the right or to the left. be able to control that shield bash thing would be nice too. oh and hand to hand blocking: fuck that. if iv got a big sword and some old woman puts her hands up, i expect to cut them the fuck off, not recoil backwards and get punched in the groin 6 times.

i know it sounds like i just want morrowind with better graphics, but i find myself so much more immersed in morrowind than oblivion. i loved all the little devices, like the pressure plates and stuff in oblivion, but the environments and the people in morrowind made me feel so much more involved. maybe it was all the racism... idk

[CN3089]

Is that pronounced Sky-rim or skee-rim or sky-reem or skee-reem? Bethesda would rule gaming if they could make a combat system that was worth a shit.

They say it in the teaser trailer friend :)

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[TeeKup]

Do want...SO fucking bad.

[Futzy]

You know what engine would have actually been good for a game like this? Bungie's Blam! rendering engine. It really dose everything an RPG would need. Automatically generated LOD, dynamic lights, amazing particles, background loading, huge draw distances, etc. They couldn't really do tech 5 since that mainly does indoor environments and doesn't have much of a draw distance. At least gamebryo is getting a significant upgrade. I doubt they'd write a whole new engine.

[Warsaw]

Wait, what? Did you just say id Tech 5 mainly does indoors? Hello, Tech 5 was designed as id's first engine with a focus on outdoor environments.

[Futzy]

It's similar to Gears in that it can do out door but its the size of an indoor area. Doesn't matter anyway, they're not using T5.

[ejburke]

Wht does it seem to me like Rage takes place in one long, meandering, spaghettified canyon? Does megatexture technology need to be able to predict where you're going to work properly? That's probably why it would be a bad fit for an Elder Scrolls game.

[Necr0matic]

I just hope they make the Dunmer look cool like in Morrowind. In Oblivion they all had weird fat faces and their skin was too blue and not grey enough.

[Dwood]

http://www.elderscrolls.com/ - watch the trailer. Posting on my Youtube account soon enough b/c the speeds on the main site are so sloooow.

[Dwood]

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[ThePlague]

:o

[Warsaw]

I love the direction that Bethesda is going with this Elder Scrolls. It seems like the story will be more coherent and be the main focus. Also, the music was win.

[CN3089]

jeremy soule status: still owns

[RedBaron]

jeremy soule status: still owns
Dawn of War music in my Elder Scrolls?

[Donut]

i saw some cool magic stuff and dual wielding going on there. like bioshock 2 style. hopefully the dev kit they provide wont be as limited this time. hard coded weapon types = bullshit. i want to make my own skills and classes.

[NullZero]

Jizz. Jizz everywhere.

[MXC]

http://www.abload.de/img/elderscrolls5_235970b0m5j.jpg
Boing boing boing.

[Dwood]

a butaface! Does she have a beard and a square chin????

[cheezdue]

a butaface! Does she have a beard and a square chin????

Paperbag girl. One thing that I wish they would fix is using the bow. It never really felt satisfying using that thing.

[Warsaw]

Because the string never made the loud "THWANG!" sound that a real one makes when you let fly.

[TVTyrant]

Honestly, I wasn't a fan of Oblivion. Hopefully this one will have more interesting combat and a better story, because the last one was really kind of boring. Then again I think most sandboxes are pretty boring so yeah.

[RedBaron]

Because the string never made the loud "THWANG!" sound that a real one makes when you let fly.
Easily fixed with a mod that replaces the sound file. Someone should do that...

[Warsaw]

The animations also feel weak and there's no show of tension. You also need a very slight screen shake while holding and have it abruptly stop when the arrow goes. It's a bit more involved than a simple sound mod. Archery is actually way more involved than it looks.

[RedBaron]

Maybe you should write Bethesda a suggestion, they might actually listen, seeing as how they're very inspired by all the mods for their games. I thought about suggesting to them visual weapon decay for weapons that were gradually damaged and not repaired. The only game that I saw this done well in was Far Cry 2, and the game itself was horrible, lol

[Warsaw]

Perhaps. But I have been underwhelmed by every Bethesda game I've ever played so far, the list of which is comprised of Oblivion, Fallout 3, and New Vegas. I'll be happy if they just get the characters looking proper, because that has traditionally been their weakest point. Low resolution textures is the next weakest link.

E: And story. They could take some cues from BioWare here. That said, BioWare has some story flaws they could work on, too, but they set the bar.

[dark navi]

So, is anyone else extremely excited to jump into Skyrim?

[TeeKup]

I know I am :iamafag:

[dark navi]

I know I am :iamafag:

:downs: Huzzah!

But seriously, playing this on PC on a 50-some inch plasma will be awesome.

[MXC]

Taking my brother to pick up his copy on the midnight launch, so I'll eventually get to play it.

[Warsaw]

:downs: Huzzah!

But seriously, playing this on PC on a 50-some inch plasma will be awesome.

Not at 1080p. The pixels, they burn! Better to play on a 30" 2560x1600. :realsmug:

[Donut]

i have a lot of love and respect for bethesda for being so dedicated to giving the fans modding tools and allowing their games to be modded so far (ex. modding the executable with the script extender), and i went from not wanting to play morrowind when my friend first showed me it to clocking almost 150 hours in my first 2 weeks with it. loved almost everything about morrowind aside from the occasional collision glitches, and the combat. in total, i definitely have over 500 hours in morrowind, and thats a lot for me with any one game.

i picked up oblivion in 2008 i think for pc. was blown away by the graphics and ability to block, but honestly, now that i look back on it, the game holds your hand when it comes to going places, and auto travel makes the big open world less of a thing you have to tackle and more of a pretty place to look at. i enjoyed morrowind a lot more where there was a big challenge to finding things and people. you had to pay attention and search. to me, that challenge made the game so much more satisfying. also, i love spears and crossbows to death. it makes me sad that oblivion doesnt have them. i hear skyrim brought back polearms though, so thats awesome.

overall, i feel like morrowind conveyed an environment a lot more convincingly than oblivion did. oblivion was pretty, and the ai conversations were cool at the time, but morrowind had much deeper story and gameplay in terms of rival factions and issues of race. that really brought me into the atmosphere.

so this whole tangent is my way of saying i love the elderscrolls series, but i hope skyrim can take the atmospheric elements of morrowind, make the game a little more mature than oblivion (race issues and the sort), make it beautiful, and have the combat not suck. the only reason i wont get it on release date is because elder scrolls games should not be bought on steam. the steam .exe has some weird steam anti-piracy thing in it, and the script extender modders wont crack it to avoid copyright, so theres a slew of awesome mods you cant play gone right there. also, i have no time, at all, and i just bought the stalker series and dead space 1 and 2. havent touched any of them yet. will get skyrim eventually though.

i identify with that 50inch tv thing too.

[Warsaw]

STALKER is Fallout for real men. It's friggin' great.

[Donut]

i just started playing stalker: shadow of chernobyl. it feels like a slightly newer morrowind in russia with guns. i love it so far.

[Mr Buckshot]

Waiting for a sale, never going to support $60 for a standard edition of a PC game. If they were to throw in meaningful limited-edition extras, then maybe. I loved the extras in the augmented edition of Deus Ex Human Revolution, and even that didn't cost me $60 (preorder discount 10%).

I did enjoy Oblivion and Morrowind though, just never had much incentive to try mods or replay the game.

[seanthelawn]

STALKER is Fallout for real men. It's friggin' great.

Hell yes.

Something tells me Skyrim's gonna have a fuckton of bugs on release day. I probably shouldn't have preordered since I'll most likely end up waiting a bit before playing so that the glitches don't ruin my game experience.

[Pooky]

Hell yes.

Something tells me Skyrim's gonna have a fuckton of bugs on release day. I probably shouldn't have preordered since I'll most likely end up waiting a bit before playing so that the glitches don't ruin my game experience.

By something, I assume you mean Bethesda's entire release history?

[seanthelawn]

http://i.imgur.com/5FhLF.gif

[jcap]

Bethesda didn't put any care into the PC version. For me, the framerate is way more sluggish than it should be for the settings it's at, and even at max settings the game looks like shit compared to either BF3 or DXHR. I'm disappointed in their lack of optimization on this ancient shitty engine.

Also, they put absolutely NO THOUGHT AT ALL into their UI design. It looks nice, but it's designed for consoles. The mouse practically has no use in the UI at all...you need to use your keyboard. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking.

[seanthelawn]

...even at max settings the game looks like shit compared to DXHR.

Holy shit don't let this be true. I feel like DXHR's graphics were terrible.

[jcap]

Oh. My. God.

I give up. I can't play this shit.

The UI is impossible to navigate. It makes no fucking sense whatsoever. You know how you have a mouse pointer, right? Well guess what? It doesn't do shit. You need to use the WASD keys to navigate the menu. You can click on any menu item as much as you want, but it won't do anything unless you select it with your keyboard first. There's not even any consistency either. Some things you need to click on, some things you need to press enter. Also, if you hit "i" to open up your inventory, you think you can close the screen just by pressing escape? WRONG.

I'm not going to buy this game, and I refuse to play it until it's finally patched.

Fuck Bethesda. Fucking console sellouts.

[InnerGoat]

Wait how are you playing the game if you didn't buy it ...................... ???? :raise: :catstare:

[MXC]

Wait how are you playing the game if you didn't buy it ...................... ???? :raise: :catstare:

Well, obviously, we have a delivery truck thief around here. So hide yo keeds, hide yo wife, cause jcapsgonnastealallyourgamesroundhere.


But in all seriousness, the game's been leaked for pirates for over a week now.


So how's the console version?

[king_nothing_]

I agree the UI isn't optimized very well for PC. Once you get used to it, it's easy enough to navigate though. It's hardly a big enough deal to cause me to not play it. The game is still fun.

I can't comment on the graphics since I'm lucky to be able to run it half-decently on medium settings with my outdated PC.

[MXC]

Looks fine to me.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1277250/nerdery/2011-11-11_00004.jpg

[dark navi]

I get a constant 60FPS when I play with maxed out settings, and my computer isn't that high end. Also, I have no idea why you call them console sell outs... the game plays fine.

[Donut]

unless they did something dramatically different, this game should support modding just like every other elderscrolls game. if the ui is as bad as you say it is jcap, the modding community will have a ui mod to fix the problem

[Amit]

ZOMG it's out! Going to go download it now.

[jcap]

This game also has mouse acceleration enabled by default, with no way of disabling it from the in-game settings. Fuck everything about this.

You can change it by editing SkyrimPrefs.ini in the Skyrim root directory, changing bMouseAcceleration=1 to 0.

Also, rumor has it that the issue of being unable to click on menu items is isolated to the pirated version of the game. Earlier I was told that the retail version was the same, which got me totally bent out of shape over it. If that's not an issue, I won't be as mad (though the UI is still total shit since you can't even compare inventories while looting).

I still stand my ground saying this engine is horseshit though. Should have been tossed out 5 years ago.

[NullZero]

Graphics looks fine, don't see how it's worse than DXHR. It uses a different artistic design and colour palette.

I do agree with the UI critics. Trying to use the mouse on it is quite frustrating. Basically, don't use your mouse at all when navigating menus.

[seanthelawn]

Anyone here running this on an ATI card? I have a 6970 and I'm getting <30FPS even though the initial hardware scan thing automatically detected that I should be on ultra settings.

E: Other hardware stuff: 8GB DDR3 Ram, Intel i7 2600k Sandybridge thingie at 3.4ghz

[NullZero]

Probably needs some optimisations blah blah.

I was set to high on my aging HD4850, but it was lagging a little, so I changed AA and AF down to 4 samples, and now it's butter. Can hardly notice the difference AF-wise.

[seanthelawn]

Yeah I changed my AA to 4, no other changes and it's been running fine. Then again I haven't been outdoors since I've changed it so I guess I'll have to wait and see.

[jcap]

Anyone here running this on an ATI card? I have a 6970 and I'm getting <30FPS even though the initial hardware scan thing automatically detected that I should be on ultra settings.

E: Other hardware stuff: 8GB DDR3 Ram, Intel i7 2600k Sandybridge thingie at 3.4ghz
I'm in the same boat as you. This is what I meant when I was complaining about performance. Even though the 6xxx series of cards isn't as powerful as the 5xxx series, the 6970 should still have plenty of horsepower to play at way more than 30 FPS on its highest settings. I also noticed that regardless of whether I play on medium or ultra, no AA or 8x AA, I get <30 FPS. I don't know if this is the card, the drivers, or the engine. I want to lean towards the engine because other games that are more graphically intensive play better.

Also, I only have shit FPS outdoors, whereas indoors it's >50 always.

[seanthelawn]

It's gotta be the engine; that hardware can easily play more graphic-intensive games maxed out with good FPS.

[Donut]

if there is an option for 3d grass, turn it the fuck off. 3d grass alone eats over 20 fps in oblivion

[MXC]

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[king_nothing_]

rofl.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Getting roughly 60fps at most times on ultra (with other settings set to maximum afterwards via launcher)
Using a 6870 here.

[TVTyrant]

Played this game for the last 20 hours straight with a friend. Pretty boss on the 360. I feel bad for PC users because thats some bullshit if it doesn't run properly. Graphics look a little dated on my 360 though.

[jcap]

Getting roughly 60fps at most times on ultra (with other settings set to maximum afterwards via launcher)
Using a 6870 here.
No idea how, unless you spend all of your time indoors and not outside.

I updated my drivers to the latest release (11.10, 10/31) and there's no improvement over 11.9. For me, the difference between medium (no AA and AF at all) and ultra (full AA and AF) is about 5 FPS. I keep replaying the intro sequence of the game over and over as a baseline for comparison. On medium I'll get about 32 FPS average, while on ultra I get about 26 average. Entering the fort, I struggle to pull 20 FPS. It's a joke.

Indoors I max out at 60 FPS (locked by vsync...no I will not disable it because I dislike tearing).

I have no idea what I can do other than wait.

[Donut]

why would you want it to go above 60 fps anyway? dont most monitors have a refresh rate of 60Hz?

or are you a 120Hz elitist :raise:

[jcap]

I agree with you. I was implying that my FPS was capped at 60 FPS when I am indoors by vsync. I was saying that I don't want to disable it because I don't like the tearing effect when it is disabled. I honestly don't know how anyone can withstand that on a flat panel monitor.

[Pooky]

why would you want it to go above 60 fps anyway? dont most monitors have a refresh rate of 60Hz?

or are you a 120Hz elitist :raise:

In most every game I've played higher framerates make for smoother control. The difference between playing Quake 3 at 125 FPS then playing something else at 60 fps is rather jarring. You can feel the difference even if you can't see it.

Just sayin~

[Rook]

If you use vsync on source games there is HUGE mouse lag, don't see how it's possible for anyone to play with it on.

[dark navi]

Not knowing what most of this crap does, I just check every box and gamble for good gameplay. :)

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

....or are you a 120Hz elitist :raise:


*cough*


Anyways, I get about 60fps at all times with my 6870 LOL!

[MXC]

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[DarkHalo003]

:lmao:

[jcap]

In most every game I've played higher framerates make for smoother control. The difference between playing Quake 3 at 125 FPS then playing something else at 60 fps is rather jarring. You can feel the difference even if you can't see it.

Just sayin~
Does it really matter though, or is it just placebo? I'm asking because I don't know. If your monitor is incapable of refreshing the image being sent more than 60 times per second, why does it care if you are sending 125 frames in the same timespan? The only thing disabling vsync has ever done for me is produce a picture that looks like this when anything is fast moving:

http://datan.org/files/dev2/tearing-halo1.jpg


And as for "feeling" it, maybe that's true. Technically the game should be doing its thing regardless of whatever the rendering framerate is, but I guess it depends on the engine?

[dark navi]

I supposed if a game is created "incorrectly" a game with a higher FPS would have more precise physics and what not... but I can't see that happening in Skyrim or an retail game for that matter.

Also, I was trying to show my girlfriend the whole troll thing and I went back to the game later to see my latest save as this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVJ15sP_mHs

My previous save was at least 20 minutes before this. :(

[Pooky]

Does it really matter though, or is it just placebo? I'm asking because I don't know. If your monitor is incapable of refreshing the image being sent more than 60 times per second, why does it care if you are sending 125 frames in the same timespan? The only thing disabling vsync has ever done for me is produce a picture that looks like this when anything is fast moving:

And as for "feeling" it, maybe that's true. Technically the game should be doing its thing regardless of whatever the rendering framerate is, but I guess it depends on the engine?

It really matters. Idk how to describe it, but the input is noticeably faster for me with higher fps. As for Quake 3 in particular, it's absolutely true

http://www.funender.com/quake/articles/fps.html

Other games might not do anything so drastic as affect the player physics, but it still makes a difference.

[DarkHalo003]

I don't think disabling Vsync is worth the higher FPS. It causes some annoying horizontal tearing that really defeats the purpose of disabling Vsync in the first place.

[Donut]

wow i never even thought of that mouse input thing, but now that you mention it, i just started playing the pc version of dead space. with vsync on, there is this terrible mouse acceleration. with vsync off, its closer to 1:1 mouse movement.

i mean, mouse movement in general is fucked up in that game and the vsync thing is a bug, but i see what you mean.

[jcap]

Shitty engines~

(I have no idea how mouse input relates to vsync)

[Donut]

yeah neither does anybody else, but turning off vsync is how you fix the problem in dead space. just a shit console -> pc port. i have to play with the game's sensitivity all the way up and my mouse on 3000 dpi just to be able to aim. for reference, 1500 dpi is fast in battlefield.

[TeeKup]

This game is best game. Holy fuck.

[king_nothing_]

I bought the Breezehome in Whiterun and all the upgrades for it. I just married Ysolda :realsmug:. She started up a shop, and she gives me profits from it. :D

[TeeKup]

^ fuck I'm totally doing that.

[dark navi]

I can't get 5,000g from harvesting people's crops :/ How do you guys get all that gold?!

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Where to go to buy the house?

[dark navi]

Where to go to buy the house?

One of the guys in Dragon's Breach can sell it to you got 5k.

[jcap]

Basically, this: http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/EricSchwarz/20111111/8866/Skyrim_or_How_Not_to_Make_a_PC_Game.php

All of it.

[king_nothing_]

I can't get 5,000g from harvesting people's crops :/ How do you guys get all that gold?!
I steal tons of shit.

[TeeKup]

I just found a Dwarven Store room just north of Riften, made a SHITTON of money off the metal in it. Saved some for myself for my dwarven weapons.

[Phopojijo]

I can't get 5,000g from harvesting people's crops :/ How do you guys get all that gold?!Player> "Would you like to buy this wagon full of cabbage for 200g?"
NPC Farmer> "No thank you, I have a field of cabbage ready to be harvested."
Player> <while walking away> "Lol no you don't." <leaves>

[TVTyrant]

I can't get 5,000g from harvesting people's crops :/ How do you guys get all that gold?!
1. Run through dungeons.
2. Give zero fucks about being over encumbered.
3. ????
4. Sell that shit for massive profits.

[dark navi]

So I was just minding my own business when...
http://img.odinseye.org/images/skyrimdrag.png

[Donut]

you know, i was upset at first that i couldnt get this on release date, but the more i hear about it and see, the less bad i feel. the combat system looks like it kicks ass, but of course after oblivion what doesnt? the menu looks atrocious, and oblivion's menu system has pissed me off more than a little bit in the past. how do devs do this? repeatedly fucking up like this, especially a dev like bethesda thats known for paying attention to the community.

play morrowind, even if for a few minutes, just to check out its menu system and bartering system and all that. the UI for that, while it isnt quite so pretty, allows for resizing of windows, and having everything in one, easy to use place. to be quite honest, i have yet to see anything in gaming that rivals morrowind's item menu, and nothing even comes CLOSE to the bartering system. i just dont get how a company goes from something so great to fucking up so badly. come on.

[Pooky]

Welp, definitely not touching this game.

[seanthelawn]

I dunno guys, it's definitely broken in like 999999 different ways but it's still fun as fuck. Just IMO.

[ODX]

Yeah, I keep hearing that this game is ported horribly with such terrible optimization that I'm afraid to buy it.

Much less even bother waiting for a sale either.

[Amit]

Since this is an RPG game, the following logic applies:

1. Download the game and crack it. Apply any updates that are cracked to make sure that you have the least broken version of the game
2. Play it and decide if it's something you find you'd spend a lot of time on.
3. Buy it if you think it's worthy of your attention or delete it if you're not interested in it anymore.

Problem solved.

[TVTyrant]

I can't blame anyone here for disliking the game, since this is a PC based forum. But I will say that, if your willing to play it on the 360, this game is definitely worth your time. I honestly feel bad for those people who bought the PC version, because thats a big pile of horseshit your all stuck with.

[dark navi]

I have a the Razer1911 day one crack + patch and it has ran fine. Buying it after this thursday (pay check!!). The UI system works fine for me, as I am open to using WASD. The game has frustrated me at times, but then I find out that I am just doing it wrong (had no idea you could sprint for my first 8 hours of gameplay).

[Warsaw]

I'll wait for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 before buying another game of this type, it will undoubtedly be better in every way.

[Amit]

S.T.AL.K.E.R. 2 has always-on DRM.

...............http://www.adiumxtras.com/images/thumbs/troll_icons_2_28891_7697_thumb.png
..............Problem?

[king_nothing_]

I can't blame anyone here for disliking the game, since this is a PC based forum. But I will say that, if your willing to play it on the 360, this game is definitely worth your time. I honestly feel bad for those people who bought the PC version, because thats a big pile of horseshit your all stuck with.
1) I think it runs and plays just fine on PC.
2) You feel bad for PC players? Nice modding community you have there, loal. I feel bad for console players.

:downsdance:

[Donut]

S.T.AL.K.E.R. 2 has always-on DRM :P
:suicide:

[Warsaw]

S.T.AL.K.E.R. 2 has always-on DRM :P

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Cracks. I'll buy it, then download it. :haw:

[TeeKup]

I have no idea what the fuck you people are bitching about. I'm having a load of fun with this game.

[DarkHalo003]

I have no idea what the fuck you people are bitching about. I'm having a load of fun with this game.
It's Modacity; if one thing is remotely wrong then it automatically sucks. You've been here since 06, how could you not know this?

[TeeKup]

Probably because I'm playing on a 360 where I have absolutely NO issues with it, where everything works perfectly and the menu system isn't shit.

E: Oh and I just killed my 5th Dragon, btw the Stormcall Shout is amazing.

[Donut]

my gripe is the menu system. i havent played it to know about anything else. so while the game may be (and im sure is) very strong in certain areas, the menus are atrocious, and thats a thing you constantly have to deal with.

its like the mouse acceleration in dead space. its one little thing, but it affects the whole game because you constantly have to put up with it.

[TVTyrant]

2) You feel bad for PC players? Nice modding community you have there, loal. I feel bad for console players
I don't get what you mean. I feel bad that the PC version sucks because my console experience has been nothing but positive. Whats wrong with that?

Probably because I'm playing on a 360 where I have absolutely NO issues with it.
This.

[Pooky]

It's Modacity; if one thing is remotely wrong then it automatically sucks. You've been here since 06, how could you not know this?

I'm not going to waste my money on a game that so blatantly disregards a significant portion of its core audience. There is no argument. Kay? Kay.

[TVTyrant]

I'm not going to waste my money on a game that so blatantly disregards a significant portion of its core audience. There is no argument. Kay? Kay.
Agreed. I don't get why people make a big deal about our complaining. Check my latest blog for my opinions.

[Pooky]

Agreed. I don't get why people make a big deal about our complaining. Check my latest blog for my opinions.

Because any remotely negative opinion on the internet = LOL UMAD these days.

[Nero]

have the pc version and i dont have any issue witht the menu.....

[Pooky]

From what I've heard it sounds like you're in the minority. Almost everyone I've talked to says the PC version of Skyrim is a failed port on the order of H2V.

[Nero]

This is my first time playing an rpg so maybe. lol.

[Donut]

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its kind of difficult to see what im saying if you havent seen and played morrowind for youself, but look what hes doing with the bartering menu. how hes just dragging stuff in. while it isnt exactly pretty, that is fucking fantastic usability wise. skyrim needs more of THAT.

[DarkHalo003]

I'll probably buy this in a few years when I have cash and it's $20. I'm behind on other games anyways, so at least by then some awesome mods will have cleaned all of these issues up.

[Nero]

@Donut; I see what you mean. :)

[Sanctus]

Man I need to go stand on the corner or something so I can get this and Anniversary.

:iamafag:

[Boba]

so uh

where's the best armor and weapons, and where do you guys get the most gold for selling stuff

[TeeKup]

^ Dragon Armor.

[Boba]

where/how

[TeeKup]

You need to be a Master (lvl 100) in smithing and it requires the dragon bones/scales you've collected. By the way a Blood Dragon ambushed me in Riverwood so now its corpse is strewn across the main street. It's rather silly.

[Siliconmaster]

ALL THE SKYRIM o_O

Yeah, my productivity for this week is fucked.

[MXC]

Can you kill a dragon with your bare hands?

I've been asking all over the place and no one can give me a straight answer. I love the Elder Scrolls series, but don't give a flying shit about magic.

[TVTyrant]

Maybe, but I sure you could if you had BEAR hands.

Oho, hahaha, haha, I crack myself up.

[Ifafudafi]

Can you kill a dragon with your bare hands?

Well, when you unequip everything you can attack with your fists, so if you're willing to heal profusely and chip away at it constantly every time it lands, I'm sure it's techincally possible. Good luck though

[Donut]

you dont need magic. i watched a friend kill 3 of them with 7 or 8 shots from a bow today. criminally easy tbqh.

[TeeKup]

That's because you can become STUPIDLY good with bows. Then again you can become stupidly good at anything. Just read all the fucking perks. I just got one for sneak that allows sneak attacks with daggers to do FIFTEEN times normal damage. The final perk for master sneak allows you to enter Sneak Mode while in combat and your target will literally lose track of you. Giving you ample opportunity to hit him with previously said OP dagger sneak attack.

E: Game is awesome.

[Warsaw]

There are also gauntlets that give you 2x sneak attack multiplier, so just think about that...one hit kills on almost everything.

[king_nothing_]

Oh hai,

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6784/kingsdragonscale.jpg'

:realsmug:

[Sanctus]

Hate being broke. TEEK BUY THIS GAME FOR YOUR BROTHER :D

[TeeKup]

I'M BROKE TOO NO.

[EagerYoungSpaceCadet]

http://media.minecraftforum.net/content/images/2011/11/skyrimpick.jpg

[NullZero]

>Wearing nightingale clothing
>sneak around and assassinate people from behind

Certainly felt a bit like playing assassin's creed. Awesome game, +1.

[Rook]

my gripe is the menu system. i havent played it to know about anything else. so while the game may be (and im sure is) very strong in certain areas, the menus are atrocious, and thats a thing you constantly have to deal with.

its like the mouse acceleration in dead space. its one little thing, but it affects the whole game because you constantly have to put up with it.
bMouseAcceleration=0 under Controls in SkyrimPrefs.ini. (C:\Users\[username]\Documents\My Games\Skyrim)

I've barley even played the game yet so there are probably other options that can be toggled. That command makes it feel a lot better though.

[Timo]

jJFkEHR28HQ

[dark navi]

I actually bought the game, and it seems the mouse works fine in the menus in the updated version. Just letting all you scallywags know.

[Siliconmaster]

The mouse works fine in my pc version, and I've tweaked the .ini file enough that the game looks gorgeous and runs to match.

[neuro]

jJFkEHR28HQ

i-uhhh don't get it?

[Timo]

It isn't nearly as funny as the guy makes it out to be, but it gave me a laugh.

This game is amazing, for once I feel bad for pirating a game and will probably end up buying it.

[Patrickssj6]

i-uhhh don't get it?
same here, watched it 3 times

[Amit]

Why did Jeff laugh like a maniac? As a rabid watcher of his channel and LAGTV, I feel disappointed in myself for not understanding :(

EDIT: After about the 5th time watching it, I finally listened to what he was saying. He said "Now just touch it," referring to his penis. She then backed the fuck up. Now it's funny, but only in my head.

[Donut]

just to be clear, i dont even have skyrim. the mouse acceleration thing was only in reference to dead space.
off topic: if you get that game, oh dear god, disable the fuck out of vsync ingame and force it through your graphics control panel. there are literal game breaking glitches if you dont.

[seanthelawn]

Is Vsync on by default? I've played like 40 hours without encountering a game-breaking glitch and I haven't touched Vsync settings

[Donut]

forget about the vsync thing. i was talking about DEAD SPACE, not skyrim.

[TeeKup]

For those of you who don't know yet. Mehrunes Razor is back.

[seanthelawn]

forget about the vsync thing. i was talking about DEAD SPACE, not skyrim.

Oh wow, you said it right there. I need to L2read. My b

[king_nothing_]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6808/skyrimcrimsonsapperdagg.jpg http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4819/skyrimvrykolakasdagger.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7151/skyrimfiresoulbow.jpg


:downsdance:

[TeeKup]

I hate you so much right now.

My ultimate goal is Daedric armor. Smithing is already at level 54.

[king_nothing_]

Smithing can be power leveled easily if you have the money. Just make like a million iron daggers.

[TeeKup]

What I'm doing. Was focusing on a mage/assassin character at first. But then I caught eye of the Daedric armor and knew I needed to have it.

[Warsaw]

Greeble is going to be the bane of my existence...

[Higuy]

Picked this game up a couple days ago. While I've only pumped about 2 hours into it, its simply beautiful and a really immersive game. Can't wait to sit down and play for it like 6 hours straight.

[PlasbianX]

I don't like what I've played so far. I played on my friends xbox using composite cables (first mistake) and the game looked like poop (im assuming this is because it was on a big screen with shit cables) but my real problem was the amount of lock ups and texture pops. The game was taking 2 second pauses every 30 seconds or so and got VERY annoying quick. Maybe it was just his xbox, idk.

[neuro]

just his xbox i guess.

[TeeKup]

Install the game to your hard drive lol....

[Warsaw]

Install the game to your hard drive lol....

He shouldn't have to. If he has to install it, what was the point of getting it on console and not PC? Besides, some of us still have 20GB hard drives, with Battlefield taking up most of the remaining 10GB that we were allotted.

[Mr Buckshot]

Google around for how to mod 3rd party hard drives to work in a 360. Just re-use the enclosure from your current 20 GB hard drive. Don't know of anyone who got banned for doing this, but it's less obvious if you use a drive size that's 250 GB or less.

[Warsaw]

I know all that, but you're missing the entire point of playing a game on console instead of PC. It is supposed to "just work." If I have to jump through hoops, then I'm going to get it on PC and enjoy the bonuses that come with that platform in return for having to jump through hoops.

[king_nothing_]

If you have a sufficient PC, is there any reason whatsoever to choose to get it on a console?

[TVTyrant]

If you have a sufficient PC, is there any reason whatsoever to choose to get it on a console?
I prefer couches to chairs lol.

[king_nothing_]

lol.

[TeeKup]

If I did have a sufficient PC, half the games that came out in the last 4 years would be on it.

[DarkHalo003]

If I had money, half of the games that came out in the past 10 years would be on it....

[Siliconmaster]

Install the game to your hard drive lol....

Apparently Skyrim runs at worse graphics though if you install it on the 360.

Playing on my pc at maxed out settings. This game is steadily growing on me. Just today I was barely starting to wonder if I was getting bored with it. Then I walked out of the general store and a dragon flew down mainstreet.

This game.

[TeeKup]

I've been ambushed 4 times coming out of the fuck all random buildings in 4 different towns. First in Riverwood, then in Morthal, again in fucking Winterhold and one more time in Riften. Dragons want your bone marrow. Also was ambushed by a high ranking Blood Dragon coming out of a ruin. Fucker looked like Alduin and took shitall for damage. Managed to run away.

[MXC]

I've found that, at least on the 360 version, you can still lunge with a two-handed sword while over-encumbered. It's a 1-second increase in speed, but it's worth it.

[TeeKup]

Just forged my Daedric armor. Now time to max out my enchanting to make it ridiculously overpowered.

[king_nothing_]

Smithing + enchanting + alchemy = I can one-shot everything in the game with my bow. :smugsome:

[Higuy]

Just beat the main quest. Talk about epic.

[TeeKup]

My game is glitched. Somehow my One-handed skill is being affected by a disease that doesn't exist so its an effective 15. Instead of 80 where it should be....

[king_nothing_]

I made a vidya:

J5mMIdROkVE

:hay:

[TeeKup]

That's gross.

[king_nothing_]

I know right. Heh.

[Timo]

I made a vidya:

vidya

:hay:

ಠ_ಠ

[Amit]

I'm calling PETA!

[TVTyrant]

Lol at the 1 gold heheh

[king_nothing_]

Huh.

[TVTyrant]

Read it wrong, I thought it said 1 gold not 340 some. Lol.

[MXC]

I made a vidya:

vidya

:hay:

I don't think I want to play anymore.

[CN3089]

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/630731920666693653/120A003FABD090FA6515F14A165374882DD46824/

ಠ_ಠ

man you can't even use shouts in there


also blades armor is the best if you're not using it you are the worst

if you get smithing high enough you can make it maxed armor rating anyway :colbert:

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/630731920666756016/820EA785B020DEC08D9F3374042AA7938AC46410/

booyah

[MXC]

Has anyone tried hoarding yet? You know, filling your house-literally-with crap?

I've got a little over 82 cabbages and around 50 potatoes so far.

[neuro]

i filled the firepit in my house with a FUCKTON of mammoth-tusks, and everytime i enter the building, they all explode, more often than not resulting in death.

i quicksave every time i enter my house
:D

[king_nothing_]

Has anyone tried hoarding yet? You know, filling your house-literally-with crap?

I've got a little over 82 cabbages and around 50 potatoes so far.
I've been thinking about it. Not sure what I should collect, though. Maybe books. Just pile them up all over my house.

Where's everybody living? I've been in Proudspire Manor in Solitude for awhile now.

EDIT: Maybe I'll collect soul gems and pile them all over my house. They look pretty neat.

[TeeKup]

I like my Breezehome. I still can't figure out why my One-Handed is at 15. I've done everything I can think of to clean myself of diseases and such. I'm so confused.

[king_nothing_]

Are there no diseases listed in your active effects?

[TeeKup]

None at all.

[CN3089]

I like my Breezehome. I still can't figure out why my One-Handed is at 15. I've done everything I can think of to clean myself of diseases and such. I'm so confused.

try player.getavinfo onehanded in your console

assuming you're part of the pc gaming master race

also,

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[Timo]

Just found out that mammoths can fill grand soul gems. So much easier to enchant stuff well now.

[TeeKup]

That video is beyond hilarious to anyone who's played oblivion.

[cheezdue]

So I just made it to the top of Throat of the World without doing whatever you have to do to get up there. :iamafag:
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004983889/screenshot/614969358078620848/?
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004983889/screenshot/614969358078622615/?
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004983889/screenshot/614969358078624786/?

[TeeKup]

I couldn't find the ebony ore up there. D:

[cheezdue]

You sure? I found it on the way up there along with a enchanted pickaxe. Look at the first screenshot and look towards the bottom left. That's where the ores are.

[itszutak]

oops I can make infinite money buying soul gems, iron, making iron daggers and enchanting them with banish

welp

[king_nothing_]

oops I can make infinite money buying soul gems, iron, making iron daggers and enchanting them with banish

welp
Yep. I did this too. And if you have the double enchant perk, do Banish and Paralyze. Those are the two most valuable.

[cheezdue]

Is there a place in the game where you can create your own spells? I'm bored of my flamethrower hands and fireballs.

[Donut]

just a guess, but mages guild? is there any main magic place like the arcane university in oblivion?

[TeeKup]

To my knowledge right now no. I'm hoping they bring back the Frostcrage Spire in some shape or form.

[king_nothing_]

The College of Winterhold is pretty much the main magic place. There is no spellcrafting in this game though.

[seanthelawn]

Just found out that mammoths can fill grand soul gems. So much easier to enchant stuff well now.

Thank you

[Timo]

Probably the coolest thing you can do that I also only recent found out is blasting away clouds using Clear Skies. I thought it was just for that one quest. It's goddamn amazing clearing the clouds away on an overcast night to reveal a massive green aurora.

[cheezdue]

The College of Winterhold is pretty much the main magic place. There is no spellcrafting in this game though.

Booooooooo :saddowns:

[TeeKup]

Probably the coolest thing you can do that I also only recent found out is blasting away clouds using Clear Skies. I thought it was just for that one quest. It's goddamn amazing clearing the clouds away on an overcast night to reveal a massive green aurora.

I did not know this. Thank you sir.

[Amit]

Whoa, thanks for that info.

[PlasbianX]

Idk if it's been posted or not... but has anybody seen the recent news about Skyrim? The land masses for the other areas from the other games are all present within Skyrim. Upon switching to no clip mode, you can get to Cyrodiil as well as Morrowind. Interesting..

[Warsaw]

Legit expansion packs, maybe? That would be exciting...

[Cortexian]

Are those land masses populated by anything?

Millions of dragons maybe? lol.

[Siliconmaster]

I noticed that there were a few good mods being made, so I started experimenting. HD textures + HDR + visual bloom + realistic water shaders + higher-res night sky + realistic color tinting:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3084/tesv2011112921573554.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3006/tesv2011112922004633.jpg

It's a tad dark due to the day/night tinting feature, but that's actually fairly realistic. Night time was pretty bright, even in caves.

[TVTyrant]

Wow that looks awesome.

[PlasbianX]

Are those land masses populated by anything?

Millions of dragons maybe? lol.

With the exception of the tower from Oblivion, no.
http://www.geekosystem.com/skyrim-explorer-travels-morrowind-oblivion/

[Ifafudafi]

Hey, kids


Creation Kit — Beginning in January, PC players will be able to download the same development tools we used at Bethesda Game Studios to create Skyrim. In tandem with the Creation Kit’s release, we will roll out a new Wiki and videos to help you get started.

woo (http://www.bethblog.com/index.php/2011/12/01/skyrim-what-were-working-on/)

please please please please have a decent particle fx editor

[TeeKup]

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8840/tumblrlrvzk63pim1qfu4th.jpg

Joy in its purest form.

[Warsaw]

Well, that more than makes up for them locking down the executable with Steam. Fuck yeah.

[Sanctus]

Do want... even though my computer is still living in my PS2's shadow and I am a complete noob.

[neuro]

im going to put my warthog ingame, and replace my horse with it.

it shall be glorious.

[DarkHalo003]

im going to put my warthog ingame, and replace my horse with it.

it shall be glorious.
Do it. Skryim will never the be the same.

[Timo]

Companion on the chaingun shooting at dragons = greatest game ever.

[Siliconmaster]

Companion on the chaingun shooting at dragons = greatest game ever.

Holy shit yes. Someone make this happen please.

[Donut]

replace the chaingun with an automatic crossbow :v:

[ThePlague]

Make the warthog like a wagon, with wooden wheels and all that jazz.

[TeeKup]

Sqt-DdAhmsY

:iamafag: My Breton character is going to have so much fun with this.

[MXC]

:iamafag: My Breton character is going to have so much fun with this.

Holy poop, there really IS a use for magic in this game!

[DarkHalo003]

That song needs to be a part of that entire sequence in the actual game. Like seriously, if someone goes out and does that, that exact song must play.


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And for MXC:

FjaN20S4Fpg

[Cortexian]

So I've never played the other games in the series... Can I still play this one without missing anything?

[MXC]

So I've never played the other games in the series... Can I still play this one without missing anything?

As far as I can tell, not really. Every game is independent of the previous, I can't find any references to Oblivion gates in what little I've played.

[CN3089]

As far as I can tell, not really. Every game is independent of the previous, I can't find any references to Oblivion gates in what little I've played.

are you like five minutes into the game or something



or were you not paying attention to the thalmor story

[Donut]

So I've never played the other games in the series... Can I still play this one without missing anything?
youll miss a few offhanded references and wont have a frame for some of the stuff you read in the books you find lying around, but in my elder scrolls experience, not playing the previous game has little impact on how much youll enjoy the game. certainly not a reason to even consider not playing the game.

[DarkHalo003]

So I've never played the other games in the series... Can I still play this one without missing anything?
There is a Steam sale for Oblivion going on right now till tomorrow at 12:00PM if you can muscle $4.99. Since everyone is saying that there are some slight references, I'm already planning to see what Oblivion has to offer.

[itszutak]

There is a Steam sale for Oblivion going on right now till tomorrow at 12:00PM if you can muscle $4.99. Since everyone is saying that there are some slight references, I'm already planning to see what Oblivion has to offer.puffy faces, soft lighting to the max, and 5 voice actors

[Warsaw]

Also terrible combat mechanics and pixellated textures.

[Donut]

i will forever enjoy oblivion as an exploration game that ill never finish with dungeons where kills are achieved by sneak attacks that are lined up with hours of watching the AI's movement paths and slowly moving through the shadows.

open combat can fuck itself with bent re-bar. that goes doubly so for those dremora fucks.
E: and ill forever enjoy morrowind as a game i cant beat. so many add ons....

[DarkHalo003]

So far Oblivion is fun, but it leaves a shit ton unexplained as far as Magic Schools, Guilds, and enemy factions are concerned. You kind of have to poke around for yourself to find out what's what. It also just has random places thrown here and there that have no relevance to quests (I'm looking at half of the forts here). Over-encumberance is also a bitch, even more so than in the Fallout series. This makes me want Skyrim even more though, mainly because I'm looking forward to everything Bethesda improved on from Oblivion and the Fallout series' quirks.

[cheezdue]

I just found a black soul gem in Blackreach. Does this thing have a higher charge than a grand soul gem?

[Siliconmaster]

Black soul gems can capture human souls, unlike grand gems which can only capture creatures. If you get the Black Star, it can capture any soul if you choose black souls over lesser souls. It is also reusable. Normal black soul gems are one-use-only.

Edit: Black souls are also the same power as grand souls, I believe.

[TeeKup]

The Black Star, or Azura's Star. It comes in handy.

[RedBaron]

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[TeeKup]

Fuck I've started too many characters.

Nord Barbarian
Breton Mage
Orc Dual Wield Barbarian
Wood Elf Scout/Assassin
Argonian Assassin (main profile.)

Now I need to make a fucking an unarmed character. FUCK.

[DarkHalo003]

:lmao:

I can't wait till I buy this game.

[TeeKup]

So I beat Alduin last night. Was a pretty intense battle.

[Higuy]

So I beat Alduin last night. Was a pretty intense battle.
For some reason my battle with Alduin was actually fairly easy... the battle on top of the Throat of the World was harder for me for some reason.

[TeeKup]

I'm an assassin, all open battles are tough for me...well not anymore now that my enchanting is at 100. I'm about to enchant my Daedric Armor set, then for the next 20 or so levels I'm going to work on Heavy Armor and Two Handed.

[itszutak]

oooops I broke the game again, destruction spells cost me literally zero mana now

edit: oh yeah also I can also frenzy/calm/fear anyone at any level with my cheapest-cost spells

edit: also my gay lizard companion is immortal

[MXC]

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:lmao:I can't breath.

[TeeKup]

I lol'd hard.