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Amit
January 18th, 2012, 12:29 AM
Ubisoft has taken it up another notch of its ludicrous DRM schemes. In Anno 2070, not only must you be connected to the internet to play the game, you can't change you video card more than three times before you get locked out of the game permanently.


Now, when Guru3D found out about Anno 2070′s DRM, Ubisoft’s response to that was… well, terrible.

They said: “Sorry to disappoint you – the game is indeed restricted to 3 hardware changes and there simply is no way to bypass that. We also do not have 7 copies of the game for you.”

Why does Ubisoft have a problem with this when the other publishers don’t? Simple. They think that DRM will actually help them reduce piracy (lol). Hey, never mind pissing off your legitimate customers, the most important thing is to reduce piracy! There are so many things wrong with this logic that I don’t understand where to even begin.

Source

(http://gamingbolt.com/ubisoft-responds-to-the-latest-drm-controversy-there-simply-is-no-way-to-bypass-that-we-also-do-not-have-7-copies-of-the-game-for-you)This is the kind of shit that drives people to pirate games. And when people don't buy the game because of this ridiculous treatment of PC customers, they will still claim that pirates ruined them. I'll tell you that every single game that I ever pirated, I never had a single interest in buying the game. So you didn't lose shit. I wasn't a potential customer. Many games, however, I have enjoyed so much that I actually bought them legitimately. You should be thanking piracy that people have an interest in your games, Ubisoft!

Sanctus
January 18th, 2012, 01:00 AM
Dafuq is wrong with Ubisoft these days?

"You cannot race your car on our race track, on race day, if you've had to pull into pit lane more than three times... ever, or else you will be banned from this track. It's to prevent people illegally driving onto the track without a permit to do so. But don't worry, we're only doing this so you can enjoy your racing experience."

That's how I see it.

jcap
January 18th, 2012, 01:50 AM
How does this shit even make any sense? I mean, I totally understand activations, and keys should be tied to your Ubisoft account. Why is anything more than that needed?

By the way, about the entire "not losing a single customer" issue...

I love the Assassin's Creed series. I own AC1, AC2, and Brotherhood. I do not own Revelations. Why? Well, Ubisoft decided that PC gamers were unworthy of getting the game at the same time as console players. Ubisoft postponed the PC release two weeks after the console release. I wanted to buy the game on the PC, but I wasn't going to wait to play it after it was released on consoles. Funny enough, the console version got leaked a full 12 days before the street date, and I got to play it. Now I have no motivation to buy it, and with this recent debacle, I may never buy it if they keep up this bullshit...ever...or any future Ubisoft titles.

(By the way, the PC release of the game was leaked 10 days before it was supposed to be officially released, so the delay had NOTHING to do with patching or anything technical. It was just pure bullshit.)

neuro
January 18th, 2012, 04:25 AM
i'm currently seriously considering walking back into the ubisoft office and punching someone in the face.

t3h m00kz
January 18th, 2012, 05:01 AM
hah

game companies these days.

=sw=warlord
January 18th, 2012, 07:04 AM
i'm currently seriously considering walking back into the ubisoft office and punching someone in the face.
Make sure you hit em hard enough to make them see stars for me.
I swear this is one of the most ridiculous strategies I've ever heard.

Warsaw
January 18th, 2012, 08:41 AM
Whelp. Good thing that there haven't been any Ubisoft Games that I thought were worth my money (much less playing) since Chaos Theory.

Cortexian
January 18th, 2012, 12:24 PM
Yeah, I usually don't buy Ubisoft games for PC anymore because of their DRM shit. It's just EASIER to pirate it, that way I get an uninterrupted gaming experience. Not to mention that I have to rely on the Ubisoft servers being online when I want to play. No thanks.

Ubisoft, your entire corporate DRM section needs to be fired.

Amit
January 18th, 2012, 01:18 PM
The sequel to Hell's Highway is the only real game I'm waiting for from Gearbox, but if they publish with Ubisoft again...I don't know what I'm going to do.

MXC
January 18th, 2012, 01:40 PM
The sequel to Hell's Highway is the only real game I'm waiting for from Gearbox, but if they publish with Ubisoft again...I don't know what I'm going to do.

Doesn't Gearbox work under 2K now?

TeeKup
January 18th, 2012, 03:35 PM
Pretty much never buying anything from Ubisoft ever again.

DarkHalo003
January 18th, 2012, 04:48 PM
Note to self, don't work for Ubisoft.

ejburke
January 18th, 2012, 06:26 PM
There are two axioms that are pertinent to this thread.

1) DRM should not inconvenience paying customers beyond a reasonable degree.

Bad Ubisoft!

2) If you're going to pirate, at least feel a little shitty about it.

Bad Modacity!

Kornman00
January 18th, 2012, 06:51 PM
If the publisher doesn't feel remorse, I won't either. Eye for an eye.

=sw=warlord
January 18th, 2012, 06:58 PM
Eye for an eye.
Makes the whole world blind.

Amit
January 18th, 2012, 07:34 PM
An eye from one dude and an eye from another leaves them both with one eye each. Nobody is blind...yet.

Kornman00
January 18th, 2012, 08:21 PM
An eye from one dude and an eye from another leaves them both with one eye each. Nobody is blind...yet.
Right. I'm not going to let some fuck faced publisher walk away with both of their eyes and also one of mine.

ATTN: Ubisoft, you're only treating a symptom, not the actual problem. Get over yourself (corporations r ppl rite?)...and add bass support to Rocksmith while you're at it.

DarkHalo003
January 19th, 2012, 11:23 AM
I just don't play Ubisoft games.

Hotrod
January 19th, 2012, 11:56 AM
Wait... Is it 3 hardware changes of any kind? So that means that when I upgraded my motherboard, processor and ram (as well as my power supply a few months back) it would have meant that I wouldn't be able to play a game that I payed for anymore?

That's fucking retarded...

Cortexian
January 19th, 2012, 01:52 PM
They probably don't stack... Once it detects new hardware it uses up a key, regardless of how much new hardware it detects.

=sw=warlord
January 19th, 2012, 03:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/OCReC.gif

Amit
January 19th, 2012, 05:36 PM
I posted this in the Funny Pictures thread a few weeks ago:

http://i.imgur.com/ZbOUZ.gif

=sw=warlord
January 19th, 2012, 08:34 PM
Someone needs to make this into a DRM, industry and consumer gif.
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad103/pulpin123/1269646821610.gif

Cortexian
January 19th, 2012, 08:44 PM
I was gonna but then I realized I didn't have Photoshop and stuff setup on here yet.

TeeKup
January 19th, 2012, 11:00 PM
Someone needs to make this into a DRM, industry and consumer gif.
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad103/pulpin123/1269646821610.gif

That person is an asshole, I hope he gets a brick to the face.

rossmum
January 23rd, 2012, 09:18 PM
wow this is really dumb

good thing i don't get ubisoft games anymore, huh.

Mr Buckshot
January 23rd, 2012, 09:19 PM
So, Ubisoft, ready to have me buy a pre-played console copy and be able to enjoy all the legit goodness, without a cent going to you?

Kornman00
January 23rd, 2012, 10:45 PM
So, Ubisoft, ready to have me buy a pre-played console copy and be able to enjoy all the legit goodness, without a cent going to you?
Publishers, like Ubisoft, are starting to use keys (that are one-time-use) to get around their profit "losses" due to used-games. You use the key get "extra" features like playing MP.

So yeah, :\

Warsaw
January 24th, 2012, 02:07 AM
That's fine, because Ubisoft's multi-player offering hasn't been good since Pandora Tomorrow (Chaos Theory was literally the same thing, so it doesn't count).

Kornman00
January 24th, 2012, 04:20 AM
It's not just Ubisoft doing it though

Warsaw
January 24th, 2012, 12:52 PM
But it is just Ubisoft doing these retarded-ass DRM gimmicks. Well, that's not true, Blizzard is, too, but I could not care less about what Blizzard is up to.

Amit
January 24th, 2012, 03:48 PM
That's fine, because Ubisoft's multi-player offering hasn't been good since Pandora Tomorrow (Chaos Theory was literally the same thing, so it doesn't count).

I rather enjoyed Both GRAW games' MP components. Hell's Highway MP is fun, too. Wow, how could I forget to mention RS Vegas 2's MP?

Warsaw
January 24th, 2012, 04:12 PM
I didn't particularly like any of those, but hey, to each his own.

MXC
January 25th, 2012, 06:59 PM
I rather enjoyed Both GRAW games' MP components. Hell's Highway MP is fun, too. Wow, how could I forget to mention RS Vegas 2's MP?

RS:V2's Multiplayer kicks ASS, especially the terrorist chunt mode...if you can find someone to play it with.

Amit
January 25th, 2012, 10:30 PM
It was fun until the game decided that it would no longer log me into my Ubisoft account :(

Warsaw
January 25th, 2012, 11:53 PM
Did you guys also have a problem with R6V freezing for no apparent reason, requiring a console restart to get out of? Happened with both games.

Amit
January 26th, 2012, 02:12 AM
I play exclusively on PC. No freezes, though. Maybe it was overtaxing the console?

Warsaw
January 26th, 2012, 02:16 AM
Pfff, if it was, it was for all the wrong reasons. R6V was not visually impressive by any measure, so it had to be the crap optimization if it was overtaxing any system at all. That said, it would do it even in rooms with nothing happening, especially on Terrorist Hunt. Walking, walking, stop. Swearing ensues.

neuro
January 26th, 2012, 03:51 AM
this surprises you?

i'm actually surprised the stuff ubisoft make isn't MORE crap, considering the people i had to work with..

Amit
January 26th, 2012, 02:03 PM
I wouldn't put it past Montreal to leave memory leaks in their games. Consoles can get those too, right?

Warsaw
January 26th, 2012, 04:04 PM
Yes. So can phones. Any modern computer can.

Amit
January 26th, 2012, 05:49 PM
Thought so. My phone's youtube app has memory leaks :(

RIP mobile entertainment.

Cortexian
January 27th, 2012, 01:54 AM
If you don't have an iPhone, then you don't have a non-shitty YouTube app.

If you don't have an iPhone, well, you don't have an iPhone.

Warsaw
January 27th, 2012, 03:35 AM
That's a bold statement. I'm pretty sure the YouTube app I use on my phone is better than the one you use on yours. And I've used the one you use.

Amit
January 27th, 2012, 03:50 AM
If you don't have an iPhone, then you don't have a non-shitty YouTube app.

If you don't have an iPhone, well, you don't have an iPhone.

You're right. I don't have an iPhone. I have an iPad and the youtube app works wonders. However, I can't walk around with a fucking big up iPad on me now can I?

=sw=warlord
January 27th, 2012, 04:56 AM
If you have an iPhone you still don't have an iPhone, Apple has your iPhone and you're just borrowing it.

JackalStomper
January 27th, 2012, 05:54 AM
I change my hardware about once every 8 years so this doesn't really bother me.
But I guess it's the thought that counts right?


If you have an iPhone you still don't have an iPhone, Apple has your iPhone and you're just borrowing it.
^

Cortexian
January 27th, 2012, 06:17 AM
If you have an iPhone you still don't have an iPhone, Apple has your iPhone and you're just borrowing it.
Yeah, that. I'd like to see them try anything along those lines legally.

Also, in reference to my last post I was just parodying their own TV ads.

Warsaw
January 27th, 2012, 11:45 AM
Don't parody bad TV ads. It only works if you don't use the product being advertised. If you were an Android or WP7 user and not an iOS user, I might have lol'd.

=sw=warlord
January 27th, 2012, 12:09 PM
Yeah, that. I'd like to see them try anything along those lines legally.


You mean like changing the screws to security screws when customers take their devices into apple stores without asking?

Mr Buckshot
January 27th, 2012, 12:34 PM
Publishers, like Ubisoft, are starting to use keys (that are one-time-use) to get around their profit "losses" due to used-games. You use the key get "extra" features like playing MP.

So yeah, :\

not sure if it works for ubi, but for EA it's very possible to dupe tech support into giving you a free online pass (friend did it with a pirated 360 copy LOL).

and like warsaw said, Ubisoft hasn't made good multiplayer for a while now, except for maybe Tom Clancy co-op - something which I'd much rather play in split screen if I'm using a console.

also, anyone notice that the upcoming F2P Ghost Recon Online gameplay looks very similar to the Ghost Recon Future Soldier multiplayer, just with worse graphics to scale better on weak PCs?

neuro
January 27th, 2012, 12:36 PM
it's free to play, but you have to pay to do anything mroe than walk around basically.

that being said, it's a pretty fun game

Mr Buckshot
January 27th, 2012, 12:45 PM
it's free to play, but you have to pay to do anything mroe than walk around basically.

that being said, it's a pretty fun game

really? I remember in preview vids the devs said it would be possible to unlock just by playing - paying might speed up unlocks but still get bottlenecked by levels or something. You'd think TF2 would raise the standards really high for F2P shooters.

do you know if Ubi's gonna control all the servers or let the users handle it like with TF2? The former typically translates into zero real protection against cheating, much like Combat Arms, thus degenerating the game into a kiddie aimbot fest. If they do it that way, then it's as insulting to PC gamers as this DRM crap.

Cortexian
January 27th, 2012, 07:52 PM
You mean like changing the screws to security screws when customers take their devices into apple stores without asking?
Change them back? The security screw driver is like $5.

Amit
January 27th, 2012, 11:40 PM
Change them back? The security screw driver is like $5.

That's not the point, but it's the only thing you can do.

Cortexian
January 28th, 2012, 12:39 AM
However once you have a security screwdriver you don't need to change them back anyway.

I already had a security screwdriver for other modding stuff so it wasn't a big deal at all to me. My iPhone also came with the security screws, as do lots of other electronics (especially consoles).