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0m3g4Muff1n987
July 5th, 2007, 01:20 PM
I'm new here just so everyone knows. I come from Halomods.

Anyway I just got H2V after waiting weeks and weeks for school to end (since I couldn't get H2V until I raised my grades to all A's), and when I tried to install it I got an error.

It said: Fatal error installing:
redists\H2V-licr.msi

Someone else on the halomods forums said they had the same exact problem, and just gave up. I won't, I'm determined to play halo 2 since I don't have an xbox and have waited for a port of halo 2 to the pc for years.

So does anyone know how to fix this? I installed vista on a clean partition and I'm not using a program to run halo 2 on XP or anything.

My specs are: 1.6 ghz centrino duo processor, 1 gb RAM, and a 128 MB intel 945GM graphics card.

So halo 2 should install fine, but for whatever dumb reason it doesn't. BTW I've exchanged one disk already, and the 2nd one has the same error. When I try to run the MSI program on the disk manually, it says one of the programs it needs to continue with installation had an error.

Anybody know how to fix this, since no one at halomods did?

Skyline
July 5th, 2007, 02:17 PM
Lol, that graphics card is integrated so it shouldn't run fine.

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 5th, 2007, 03:10 PM
Grr... I know I hate integrated gfx cards... but it should still be ok. I mean halo 1 works fine.

If this is the reason halo won't install, is there ANY way at all to change graphics cards in a notebook!?!?! The stupid curse of a permanent graphics card has plagued me forever. When I bought the notebook a 128 MB gfx card seemed good, now games (especially retarded, high-demanding ones like halo 2) need more power. WTF!

Is there a way to change the graphics card in my notebook? Or just to install halo 2, do I have to buy another freakin computer?!

Dr Dmoney
July 5th, 2007, 03:24 PM
Well, I am sorry but you will have no lucky changing the cards in a laptop. They are attached to the motherboard, on 95% of computers. When you buy a laptop from a few companies one of the options is you want an offboard Videocard.

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 5th, 2007, 03:27 PM
Fuck... so the reason this doesn't install is my card?




And which companies support the offboard graphics cards?

Dr Dmoney
July 5th, 2007, 03:32 PM
I know alienware does but they are so god damn expensive.

Skyline
July 5th, 2007, 04:57 PM
Laptops aren't really ment for gaming.

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 5th, 2007, 05:26 PM
I still like em. You can take them everywhere, and you can't, say, take your desktop computer into the crapper with you just to browse.

Xetsuei
July 6th, 2007, 01:04 AM
If my laptop (1.6ghz Core 2 Duo, 2gigs ram, GeForce Go 7600) can't play h2v @ 640x480 low settings no AA and get hardly 15 fps, your laptop will most certainly not run it well at all.

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 6th, 2007, 09:28 AM
Xetsuei™;95183']If my laptop (1.6ghz Core 2 Duo, 2gigs ram, GeForce Go 7600) can't play h2v @ 640x480 low settings no AA and get hardly 15 fps, your laptop will most certainly not run it well at all.

Holy crap. Nevermind, I'd better start saving up for a better laptop. And yes I'm getting a laptop, no doubt about it-I do a lot of multimedia tasks like video editing that I need a laptop for.

Emperor Nero
July 7th, 2007, 08:08 PM
I got this same problem, but it installed fine before i upgraded my laptop to 2 gigs ram (1 gig of ram was not enough to play with). My graphics card is a Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family, 224 MB Shared memory. Any ideas now?

Xetsuei
July 7th, 2007, 11:57 PM
That's not a graphics card, its an integrated graphics processing unit, which plain sucks ass.

bum has knife
July 17th, 2007, 12:32 PM
It said: Fatal error installing:
redists\H2V-licr.msi


Was Windows Update running while you were trying to install?

randreach454
July 18th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Lol I like how he mentioned halo 1 ran fine on it..
Anyways, vista is a very demanding OS, and halo 2 pc is very different then halo 1 pc. Its quite demanding..
My system plays it fine on 1024x768, just click the computer button to the right to see my specs..

Integrated graphics and halo2 though, not even worth trying.
A 9800 running it shocks me, what reso and level of detail are you using? Anyways, go with a desktop for all your gaming needs.. No reason why you cant have a desktop for gaming and a laptop for your on the go tasks..

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 19th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Lol here's a reason for not having 2 computers, not enough money. Besides I might want to play games on the go. Anyway, once I make enough money I'm going to buy an Asus G1 notebook, it's meant for gaming, it's got dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB RAM, and nvidia 7700 video card, which is 512 MB dedicated graphics memory, so H2V should run fine right?

BTW in a notebook, when it says dedicated graphics memory does that mean you can switch graphics cards? Because I know on the bottom of the Asus G1, there's covers for RAM, CPU, HD, and I think video card but I'm not sure. Once I get the g1 can I mix and match all of those? :eek:

Mr Buckshot
July 19th, 2007, 11:23 PM
ANY GRAPHICS MADE BY INTEL ARE COMPLETE SHIT AND SHOULD NEVER BE EVEN CONSIDERED FOR ANY FORM OF PC GAMING.

Mr Buckshot
July 19th, 2007, 11:24 PM
sorry for double post, but go here:

http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4177

Laptop variants of the described video cards are not different except for clock speeds - however if there are major hardware differences I point 'em out.

a7on
July 20th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Sorry mate but even if you where able to install it, it would of run at like 4 fps. As for anyone who is having slow frame you can always go to msconfig, service, hide all windows services, and disable EVERY service and process that isn't vital for vista and then run Halo 2. Anyhow yea Laptops where NEVER meant for gaming. The ones can run games cost two or three times as much as a equivalent desktop pc.

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 20th, 2007, 03:56 PM
If they cost more, I can handle that. Anyway, I've seen that topic. What I was saying was H2V will run fine once I get a laptop with 512MB of memory. Not the one I have now. I'm past that, I don't want to install halo 2 on this graphics card.

ExAm
July 20th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Laptops aren't really ment for gaming.
Some are. Not all laptops are for mediocre tasks. Consider VooDoo, Alienware, Sager...

Mr Buckshot
July 21st, 2007, 06:36 AM
Laptops aren't really ment for gaming.

many laptops serve that purpose. Mine runs Halo 2 at 1024x768 on low, 30 fps.

Anyway, if you want to "upgrade" a laptop's video card...

ASUS XG Station (http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/hands-on-with-the-asus-xg-station-external-gpu)

MSI Luxium (http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/10/msis-luxium-external-graphics-solution-spotted/)

Those two devices are basically enclosures that let you stick in a desktop PCI-express video card and connect it to a laptop via an ExpressCard slot (you must have the full-size slot, not the expresscard 34 slot found on Macbooks). It's nowhere near as fast as putting it in a real desktop computer, but it is a good way to bring high-end video to a crappy laptop. By the way, you can only game at home at your desk if you do this, because the enclosure is heavy and needs its own power supply.

Cyberpower, Dell, Alienware, Sager, and Voodoo have adopted a format called MXM (Nvidia only), which is an attempt to make a standard PCI express for laptops. MXM means that you can actually take out the card and stick in a new one, but you cannot do this for integrated video.

Omega, you're essentially stuck with your laptop - either buy a new system altogether or get one of the two devices I mentioned (when they come into retail...)

Xetsuei
July 21st, 2007, 02:13 PM
Xetsuei™;95183']If my laptop (1.6ghz Core 2 Duo, 2gigs ram, GeForce Go 7600) can't play h2v @ 640x480 low settings no AA and get hardly 15 fps, your laptop will most certainly not run it well at all.


Ignore this guys. ._. It plays H2V 1024x768 high settings 4xAA fine.

Mr Buckshot
July 24th, 2007, 09:08 AM
Lol here's a reason for not having 2 computers, not enough money. Besides I might want to play games on the go. Anyway, once I make enough money I'm going to buy an Asus G1 notebook, it's meant for gaming, it's got dual core 2GHz CPU, 2GB RAM, and nvidia 7700 video card, which is 512 MB dedicated graphics memory, so H2V should run fine right?

BTW in a notebook, when it says dedicated graphics memory does that mean you can switch graphics cards? Because I know on the bottom of the Asus G1, there's covers for RAM, CPU, HD, and I think video card but I'm not sure. Once I get the g1 can I mix and match all of those? :eek:

Technically, a dedicated video card means that you can upgrade the laptop card, but it isn't as simple as it looks. You can't just pop out the card and slap in a more powerful one. Anyway this is a Nvidia-only property.

Nvidia's MXM is complicated. You have 3 types - Type 1 is for low end cards (not integrated, i.e. Geforce 7300), Type 2 is for mid-range cards (i.e. Geforce 7600), and Type 3 is for high-end cards (i.e. Geforce 7900). You can't take out a Type 2 card and stick in a Type 3 card because of size constraints (e.g. if your laptop is 15.4", you can't stick in a super powerful card because they need 17" or larger).

You can take out the card and slap in a new one, but your options are so limited that it really is not worth it. Essentially, you're stuck with whatever laptop GPU you have. I know Asus has made a laptop that is touted for being the most upgradeable yet, but that upgradeability is not that easy for the video card.

Asus G1 notebooks are superb gaming machines...if you can find the correct retailer who sells them for a decent price, that is. Newegg is your destination. Use www.notebookreview.com to check for great deals.

And another word: Dedicated video memory is good, but it does not always mean the card itself is dedicated. HP/Compaq, for example, makes Radeon X200s with dedicated video memory, but the chip itself is integrated into the motherboard, which makes it a crappy chip.

One more thing, here's a helpful guide for notebook video cards:

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3056&guide=Graphics+Card+Guide+2006

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 24th, 2007, 03:58 PM
Thanks Xet, I was getting worried by that post, and thank you Mr. Buckshot, your posts were extremely helpful (+rep 4 u). I'll check out those links, and it reassures me that G1's are superb since I'll be getting one.

One more thing: (ok, 2) How well will a g1 be able to play halo 2 at 1680x1050 resolution, and what about 1280x800? Also, how well will I be able to switch graphics cards in a g1?

And how the hell will I make $1700 anytime soon?...

Neuro Guro
July 24th, 2007, 06:09 PM
... and you can't, say, take your desktop computer into the crapper with you just to browse.

I beg to differ. You'd be amazed at what i've done before..

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 24th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Umm... you took your entire fucking 40-pound desktop computer into the bathroom with you?

Neuro Guro
July 24th, 2007, 09:36 PM
Umm... you took your entire fucking 40-pound desktop computer into the bathroom with you?

Yeah. What, you can't lift 40 pounds?

Hell, I think my turd was like 50.

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 25th, 2007, 03:46 PM
Well, my point is, I don't see it as worth it to drag a box of hardware along with a mouse (with no surface to move it on), a keyboard, speakers, a monitor, ethernet cable and a power cord into the bathroom just so you can be on it for a few minutes while you shit. While you could just take a less-than-ten-pound box of hardware in with none of the extras. But if that's the way you do it, go ahead :/

Anyway I still am in need of answers to my couple of questions.

XellKhaar
July 26th, 2007, 06:47 PM
I get this exact error when I try to install, exactly the same. I have an Nvidia 7900 video card, an intel core 2 6400 processor (2.13 GHz), 4 GB of RAM and Vista Home Premium 32 bit. I don't think this is related to any hardware issues since I meet the recommended requirements and everything. Suffisive to say, upgrading your computer is not gonna help. If you ever find a sollution to the problem, let me know: S104Fred@hotmail.com

bum has knife
July 27th, 2007, 12:14 PM
The only time we've been able to repro this issue internally is when Windows update is also running. Make sure this is not running when you try to install H2V. If that still doesn't work then please let me know.

leorimolo
July 27th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Xetsuei™;95183']If my laptop (1.6ghz Core 2 Duo, 2gigs ram, GeForce Go 7600) can't play h2v @ 640x480 low settings no AA and get hardly 15 fps, your laptop will most certainly not run it well at all.


Wow your computer must be fucked up cause I have a 7300 go and 2 gigs of ram and I get a smooth 30fps....

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 27th, 2007, 04:24 PM
Xell I sold it back, so once I get a g1 (definitely not anytime soon :() i'll buy it again and it'll most likely install fine. And I'm pretty sure windows Update wasn't running. Its okay, I don't want to install h2v on my shitty graphics card anymore anyway.

XellKhaar
July 27th, 2007, 04:32 PM
The only time we've been able to repro this issue internally is when Windows update is also running. Make sure this is not running when you try to install H2V. If that still doesn't work then please let me know.

I turned off windows update on mine, I even disabled it but that didn't help, still same error.

Xetsuei
July 27th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Xetsuei™;105734']Ignore this guys. ._. It plays H2V 1024x768 high settings 4xAA fine.


Wow your computer must be fucked up cause I have a 7300 go and 2 gigs of ram and I get a smooth 30fps....

hurr

tomdex
July 28th, 2007, 08:49 AM
HELP ! I need this file h2v-licr.msi please send me this file :tomdex1@wp.pl , thx.

tomdex
July 28th, 2007, 03:09 PM
ehhh please ;( it's important.

Xetsuei
July 28th, 2007, 03:28 PM
No.

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 28th, 2007, 03:37 PM
Making sure you said please won't help you in court :)

kenney001
July 30th, 2007, 12:36 AM
lol i just bought a laptop that had the G945m gpu in it, and i have problems running Need for speed Most Wanted at 680x420 at almost the lowest settings. Good luck trying to run Halo 2 on it.

(I paid $100 for a 1.6g Intel core 2 notebook with a 15.4" widescreen monitor, 1 gig ram, DVD+RW, 120gig WD Sata HDD, so im not complaining about it really.)

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 30th, 2007, 09:26 AM
Wow! Only 100 bucks for a computer like mine?

...

Mine IS old. I'm guessing you bought it from ebay or something?

kenney001
July 30th, 2007, 12:27 PM
nope, my uncle shipped it back from germany, and it got smashed on the trip. It wouldnt boot, so i bought it from him, bent the keyboard back out and replaced the HD. It works perfectly now, and now shows no external damage other than the few scratches from everyday use and the keyboard dips in a little. Dobnt worry, this laptop (gateway MX6920) still sells for 750-800 new.

0m3g4Muff1n987
July 30th, 2007, 10:13 PM
I'd better start saving my pennies.