OMG.

[Bad Waffle]

Ecotech week on science channel. Its like a bajillion episodes of cool stuff that i always talk about to all my friends.

It goes over new ways to cut down pollution, new ways to redesign buildings, new ways to save money on energy, new ways to store energy, new ways for transportation, new things to make life easier, etc etc.

ITS ASSUM.

When it comes on tomorrow, this will be the discussion topic. watch with me, i guarantee you'll find something interesting if you're a sci-fi buff (or are against global warming).

:haw: *happy*

[Emmzee]

Ecotech week on science channel. Its like a bajillion episodes of cool stuff that i always talk about to all my friends.

It goes over new ways to cut down pollution, new ways to redesign buildings, new ways to save money on energy, new ways to store energy, new ways for transportation, new things to make life easier, etc etc.
Cut down? Hell, I've increased pollution by taking the catalytic converter out of my car. Can somebody say extra horses?

[Bad Waffle]

go diaf :saddowns:

[Archon23]

Sounds cool. Unfortunately my parents forgot to pay the cable bill this month and I just noticed seeing as most of my time is on the computer.

[Agamemnon]

Against global warming? As in being against it being a theory or against greenhouse gas emissions in general?

[Bad Waffle]

greenhouse emissions in general.

Well, why we're at it, to avoid a large arguement on the validity of global warming, let me just say--if its true, then we should do something about it. if its not true, then its not like we're risking anything by trying to reduce the emissions anyways. Either way, if we do anything, it just means less money wasted, and more furthering the technology of our world.

[Agamemnon]

I think what people get mixed up on is how other people view the situation and will go on for the rest of their life arguing with that person instead of both of them agreeing that greenhouse gases are damaging the ozone layer and making an effort to reduce that.

[Warsaw]

Yes.

Go Hydrogen cars!

[Bad Waffle]

Its a true example of a redundant arguement. No matter who wins the arguement on it, the pollution remains. No matter who wins, there are still cheaper than what we have now ways to fix this. Its like you have the opportunity to get an A on a test by studying and putting forth effort, but you settle with a low B because you can "get past" for now on that. If you got an A on it though, it would be better for the future.

[thehoodedsmack]

Will any discussion focuss on how to make a Cadillac Escalade more environment-friendly? Because I'd really like that. I love all this green-earth stuff. I'll be sure to watch what I can.

[JDMFSeanP]

Power it by air with an air powered pressurizer in it so it just recycles everything and emits...air.

[Leiukemia]

I've never really been interested in this kind of stuff, but I think I'll watch it just to see it. I do like seeing the eco-friendly converted cars and houses and things like that.

[Rob Oplawar]

Its like you have the opportunity to get an A on a test by studying and putting forth effort, but you settle with a low B because you can "get past" for now on that. If you got an A on it though, it would be better for the future.

Like my Junior year of high school. I worked my ass off and got straight A's in my 3 AP classes, 3 honors classes, and 1 college course.
I was miserable and in the end I'm in exactly the same place.

We could end up working our asses off to reduce pollution only to belatedly realize that the world is a more pleasant place for humans to inhabit when it is warmer throughout the year and we get more rain. And that carbon has come into incredible demand for construction, and we could have had a veritable wealth of carbon to be easily plucked out of the atmosphere by now, but instead it's all locked away in seabeds and whatnot.

Ah, the follies of our time.

Just playing devil's advocate ;)

[Warsaw]

Reducing emissions won't take the carbon out of the air, just put less of it into the air. It's the job of green plants to reduce CO2.

[Snowy]

Ecotech week on science channel. Its like a bajillion episodes of cool stuff that i always talk about to all my friends.

It goes over new ways to cut down pollution, new ways to redesign buildings, new ways to save money on energy, new ways to store energy, new ways for transportation, new things to make life easier, etc etc.

ITS ASSUM.

When it comes on tomorrow, this will be the discussion topic. watch with me, i guarantee you'll find something interesting if you're a sci-fi buff (or are against global warming).

:haw: *happy*
This stuff is interesting. No doubt I'm going to try and buy some solar panels when I buy my first house. I don't think I have the science channel though... do you know if it'll be on discovery? That's where I see the commecrical.

[Warsaw]

Discovery owns the Science Channel...:downs:.

[Bad Waffle]

discovery is like a nerd's savior when it comes to TV. Millitary/science/history(sometimes) channels FTW.

[Snowy]

I miss TechTV. :(

[LlamaMaster]

The main problem with introducing a new method of creating energy to the world is the overall lack of support from people. When everybody (Billions of people) is so incredibly independent on oil, it becomes increasingly hard to spread the knowledge which will convert people to alternative sources. Than we got those who believe there is no problem, and refuse to believe that the change can be good. Hell, even I don't believe in global warming, but I do believe that there are several other alternatives to oil which would be far better in the long run. I honestly don't believe that the world will listen anytime soon. People will simply wait until it is to late to change, and we won't have to energy required to convert the world to an alternate source of energy. Company's are trying in vain to spread awareness on the subject, but unless we get somebody in a high political position to enforce laws to convert the energy used, our country and others will be stuck in a rut. ***sigh***, the world is damn big to influence without great difficulty...

[Archon23]

Even if we get the whole message out there (I highly doubt we'd pass laws out there) theres still the whole thing of how many people would actually do it. I mean people would know and would like to try to help but will they actually do it? Not only that but there are tons of oil businesses so they'll have hissy fits if we get an environmental friendly alternative and use that for the majority of fuel.

[Warsaw]

The problem is that lots of people make lots of money off of the established resources, and don't want to reduce demand for their cash-producing, high-demand reserves.

[Rob Oplawar]

Reducing emissions won't take the carbon out of the air, just put less of it into the air. I'm talking about actions taken to remove carbon already in the air, but come to think of it, you're right, locking carbon in seabeds is intended to be used on newly created carbon before it is released into the atmosphere. My bad.


Than we got those who believe there is no problem, and refuse to believe that the change can be good.
What I'm saying is who ever said the climate was so good in the first place? We've got harsh seasonal extremes that force many crops to be grown only 3 months out of the year. A better insulated planet (ala greenhouse effect) could have much less variation between seasons. Warmer weather could mean more evaporation which could mean more precipitation, which could also be good. Think of how much energy we expend just to keep ourselves warm in the winter (I hope somebody replies with the obvious response to this).

All I'm saying is we can't possibly know, with such a mind bogglingly complex system, what is best for us on this planet (and it is about us- to paraphrase Michael Crichton, we may die, but the planet and life will go on with or without us).

But that brings me to why I actually am on the side of let's do something to reduce pollution and counter global warming if it is indeed there. Because it is good to fear change when the stakes are so high- sure we could be worried over nothing or it could even benefit the planet,
or
it could worst case scenario go Day After Tomorrow on us and we just don't know. With the stakes so high, it's really best not to gamble on it.

[Archon23]

Regarding your observations on the warming up might be good thing.

Well it might save US some trouble in the long run you can't forget the delicately balanced ecosystems of the world. Sure wed get more crops less heating bills but just that at the cost of a few many species going extinct. Not to mention the seas going a little bit higher forcing people who live by coasts (like me) to move to higher grounds.

[Warsaw]

Well, if the sea levels rise, I won't have to move, I'll just have a five-minute drive to the beach :cool:.

[Con]

Yes.

Go Hydrogen cars!
or electric, which are actually a bit better than hydrogen I heard. Did you know that back when cars were first being made, there were just as many electric cars as there were gasoline. The only reason that gasoline cars won was because they were the first to be mass-produced. Also, the Ford model T is more efficient than a Ford Explorer.

[Archon23]

Hell did you know back when diesel engines were first made they were supposed to use corn oil? Now that would've saved us a ton of trouble.

[Warsaw]

It was cheaper to use a wide-spread and readily available resource than to switch over to a different resource that required more processimg. Same thing happened with VCR and DVD, because video disks came out right after VCR, but the companies decided to capitalize on VCR first. Same thing is also happening with CPUs, since there are CPUs out there other than Intel and AMD that are a lot more powerful but you don't see them because most people don't need that kind of power for what they do.

[Gamerkd16]

lol This this going turn into one of those "So you think Global Warming is just a Theory" threads.

[Dal]

*Game of 'Spot the pubescent' starts as of the previous post!*

It's not trolling when I do it once >.>

[ExAm]

Ecotech week on science channel. Its like a bajillion episodes of cool stuff that i always talk about to all my friends.

It goes over new ways to cut down pollution, new ways to redesign buildings, new ways to save money on energy, new ways to store energy, new ways for transportation, new things to make life easier, etc etc.

ITS ASSUM.

When it comes on tomorrow, this will be the discussion topic. watch with me, i guarantee you'll find something interesting if you're a sci-fi buff (or are against global warming).

:haw: *happy*I don't get the Science channel! D:

[Gamerkd16]

*Game of 'Spot the pubescent' starts as of the previous post!*

It's not trolling when I do it once >.>
Dude, I'm 18 years old and a Freshman in College.


Ecotech week on science channel. Its like a bajillion episodes of cool stuff that i always talk about to all my friends.Damn, it sucks that I missed it. I've always found that sort of science stuff intriguing.