[WIP]Assault rifley type thing

[Sel]

Anybody got any thoughts on what can be improved on this model?

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective-2.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective2.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective3.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/side-2.jpg

Also, Id appreciate it if anyone could link me to a tutorial for making a weapon display, I havent seen one on ghosts tut resource.

[thehoodedsmack]

Welcome to the Hood. Dang near everything could be improved. That thing couldn't be saved by smoothing alone, so I'd suggest you contact Snafubar, or read some of the tutorials that TheGhost kindly put up, and then start over.

[Hunter]

box modeled by the luks of it, the design is 2 bad, its just the model, that will be a very high poly model, and if you modeled a map like that it wud be a error party. Do wat i did and watch a plane modeling tutorial, ive start plane modeling now and its alot better than box modeling:

Plane Modeling Tutorial (http://tutorials.moddb.com/16/beretta-9000-video-tutorial/)

This is what i have made using plane modeling: (Most recent at top)
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Rifle_update_animated.gif
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/MX8_rifle.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/MX8CarbineWireframe.jpg

[Sel]

box modeled by the luks of it, the design is 2 bad, its just the model, that will be a very high poly model, and if you modeled a map like that it wud be a error party. Do wat i did and watch a plane modeling tutorial, ive start plane modeling now and its alot better than box modeling:

Plane Modeling Tutorial (http://tutorials.moddb.com/16/beretta-9000-video-tutorial/)

This is what i have made using plane modeling: (Most recent at top)
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Rifle_update_animated.gif
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/MX8_rifle.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/MX8CarbineWireframe.jpg


Whoa that owns mine a helluvalot, thanks for the link.

[Hunter]

lol, thanks, ive only just started plane modeling as well. So you should be able to make something lyk mine, just luk for a good weapon or use the weapon out of the tutorial and you could make something lyk that.

Wait i just noticed, you weapon has a simular shape 2 the Assult Rifle, did you modify the Assult Rifle model?

[Sel]

lol, thanks, ive only just started plane modeling as well. So you should be able to make something lyk mine, just luk for a good weapon or use the weapon out of the tutorial and you could make something lyk that.

Wait i just noticed, you weapon has a simular shape 2 the Assult Rifle, did you modify the Assult Rifle model?

I started from scratch but I imported the AR on the side of it so Id know about how big to make it.

[Hunter]

ok

[Con]

What ross said.

[Nimverus]

Good job on effort

[Sel]

Good job on effort


Its a good step up from the technique I used for peak of despair so all is good in the hood :D, now to watch that plain modeling tut that hunter put up here.

[Teh Ganon]

looks more like a dinosaur than a weapon. Nice dinosaur!

[SnaFuBAR]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective-2.jpg

all you did was tesselate the halo AR, drag things around and extrude some things. i don't believe you imported the halo AR for a reference at all, because you imported it to change it.

[PenGuin1362]

what the hell is that?!?!?!

seriously the lack of smoothing and extreme amount of tris is like...ahhh. best thing to do is start over. that mesh looks like a complete mess. don't triangulate so much and do NOT tessellate anything if that's what you did. nor use the halo ar if that's what you did as well.

[Sel]

all you did was tesselate the halo AR, drag things around and extrude some things. i don't believe you imported the halo AR for a reference at all, because you imported it to change it.

Reeaaalllllyyyyyyyyy, thats why its not skinned, and I went to the trouble to delete the pumps on the front, the flashlight cylinder, and remake faces around them, I am many things, a modder nub is not one of them.

[Stormwing]

In other words you went to the trouble to edit a perfectly innocent assault rifle into a glob of light blue early sci-fi alien shitslime which was then carelessly molded into some sort of weapon-like shape.

yeah, you're not a modder nub. you're a bloody idiot.


Delete this crap and actually learn to model. With that ego (a modder nub is not one of them? lmao) constructive comments probably won't get anywhere...then again, this "gun" is a lost cause anyway.
Hope you learn something from the tutorial.

[Jay2645]

It's a Bloober from the Mario games!

[demonmaster3k]

dude i don't usually say this but that gun sux
try to find a side-view of an already existing weapon and then use plane modeling (editable poly is a preferrable setting to use in weapon modeling after numerous attempts at a spartan laser... just for the helluv it)

try learning about real guns (parts and whatnut... guns are more than just a box with a trigger) before trying to design your own next time.

[Tarzan]

concept is good, but for the modeling... I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul. Not that I'd do much better at weapon modeling, IMO... but practice makes perfect.

[Bastinka]

:words: and I went to the trouble to delete the pumps on the front, the flashlight cylinder, and remake faces around them, I am many things, a modder nub is not one of them.
All the trouble? Thats barely anything you did!

L2model, please... You just extruded, tesselated and moved things around like snaf said. Try something more oiginal.

[Mass]

looks more like a dinosaur than a weapon. Nice dinosaur!

That's what I was thinking.

[Archon23]

I thought it was an abomination from hell. Though I wonder if even hell would take that. They do have to draw the line somewhere. :downs:

[LlamaMaster]

Wow! You guys must be high, because that the best fricken model I've ever seen! Everything about this model just screams perfection, hard work, determination and raw skill. The about of detail you manged to fit onto this fantastic piece of art is almost unbearable to to my naked unworthy eyes! Every time I glance at this model my heart skips a beat over how wonderfully beautiful it is. Such skill, such expertise couldn't be matched by snaf or ross. I'm in utter shock that you could create something so amazing as this with so few polygons! You must have to seriously skill. Other models of this magnitude have at least 5 times as many polygons. My mind is blogged by how the mind of a mere human could give birth to such an intelligently designed weapon. Somehow you planned out its architecture so well, that it doesn't even require a trigger! Brilliant!

Well done, you have a bright future in the community. I'm surprised that Bungie hasn't made you their president already.

Yes I'm an ass, but did you honestly expect to get positive results out of this model?

[Jay2645]

I detect sarcasm (I think, it's the Internetz, so you never know).
Also, trust me, he made that thing, it's not an Assault Rifle model, trust me. He's made other stuff, too, but I'm not going to repost them as he would probably get flamed for polygon wastage and lack of smoothing on one model, and the fact it looks like something out of the Flintstones on the other (Mainly because of the skin).

[LlamaMaster]

Yes, it's sarcasm. :rolleyes:

[Bastinka]

:words: it looks like something out of the Flintstones on the other (Mainly because of the skin).

The flintstones were ace. This is just horrible.

[Jay2645]

The flintstones were ace. This is just horrible.

I meant this gun:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/side-1.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/scope.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective.jpg
I was afraid to post a pic of it due to the sheer crappiness being flamed, but whatever.

[LlamaMaster]

That gun is also horrible.

[FRain]

Thnakz enw erpson. i antc ese aynmreo.

[Bastinka]

Thnakz enw erpson. i antc ese aynmreo.
What the hell?

Anyway, the Flintstones are still better then that.

[Jay2645]

Yeah, but the fact it looks like rock reminded me of them.

I am very gay and like your dick
FTFY.

[Bastinka]

Is that what it says?

Anyway, mushy looking models shouldn't be in halo... They're too organic unless you make a bunch of things to go along with it. Also, try observing UNSC / Covenant weapons and look at their wireframes and whatnot :\

[Pooky]

More bandwagon flame.... come on guys :fail:

[FRain]

Fail, can't take a joke. Get off the bandwagon. Obviously I said "Thanks new person, I cant see anymore." :fail:

[legionaire45]

To OP's first model: Is that a whale with a Penis for a grip?
To OP's second model: First off, the Forerunner's don't fucking use projectile based weaponry. Unless of coarse you were trying to make it look like it is made out of cock *cough*excuse me, rock*cough*
To Jay: Let the guy post the model on his own, you don't need to make him look worse.thief *cough*

Furthermore, cocks (http://tutorials.moddb.com/16/beretta-9000-video-tutorial/) and more cocks (http://tutorials.moddb.com/291/creating-a-weapon-for-source/).

[Mass]

To OP's first model: Is that a whale with a Penis for a grip?
To OP's second model: First off, the Forerunner's don't fucking use projectile based weaponry. Unless of coarse you were trying to make it look like it is made out of cock *cough*excuse me, rock*cough*
To Jay: Let the guy post the model on his own, you don't need to make him look worse.thief *cough*

Furthermore, cocks (http://tutorials.moddb.com/16/beretta-9000-video-tutorial/) and more cocks (http://tutorials.moddb.com/291/creating-a-weapon-for-source/).

Hey, those aren't cocks!!!
I'm severely disappointed. ;)



concept is good, but for the modeling... I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul. Not that I'd do much better at weapon modeling, IMO... but practice makes perfect.

The concept of a wtf dinosaur cannon?
It looks like someone chopped the limb off a mutant from a stupid movie involving space marines and fully automatic lizards. I don't understand why you think shrooms would help with modelling selentic.

[Jay2645]

I kinda got forced into giving screenies, but as long as I still have my 25 rep points (Gasp! That's Sooo much rep![/sarcasm]), I'm fine.
Yes, I'm a rep whore. =P

[Roostervier]

Besides learning to plane model, learn to make better renders too... those are horrible. They are very blurred. Leukemia made a tutorial on rendering for max just a little bit ago, here (http://files.filefront.com//;7937601;;/) is a download.

[OmegaDragon]

I am sorry to say this, but when I saw your model, I was eating a cookie and felt the little burning feeling of puke coming up my throat. This is the second time this has happened to me before. Look at the plane modeling tutorial. It will save the newly eaten cookie of many people :(

[demonmaster3k]

I am sorry to say this, but when I saw your model, I was eating a cookie and felt the little burning feeling of puke coming up my throat. This is the second time this has happened to me before. Look at the plane modeling tutorial. It will save the newly eaten cookie of many people :(
lmafo, poor poor dude (even more sorry for that cookie)
... stick with box canyons... they dont look as bad as the crap rifle
and take more time on you next gun... i dunno, let's say about a week and lots of effort to avoid the flaming committee

[Sel]

Okay, my renders may suck, but heres a pic of a newer thingy that I spent about 4 hours on (Not dont yet lulz <_<)

but I just would like to check if this is an imrpovement on the one at the beginning of this topic (used plane modeling)

PS: Thanks for the tut hunter.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective-3.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/side-3.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective2-1.jpg

[Tweek]

dont put some shit tiled texture on it. it makes a bad model look alot fucking worse.

[Stormwing]

Better? Yes.
Is it still a shit model that would better off be deleted? Yes.

Okay, you've made something a little more reminiscent of a gun. Keep going at the tutorial, keep practicing, and know that your next few models will keep looking like shit until you've understood the concepts and techniques enough.

[LlamaMaster]

Ehhhh that thing hurts my eyes! What made you think that putting that texture on would make the render look better? It's hard to even tell what the model looks like. However, from what I can tell, it looks horrific. Delete, try again. Sorry, but it really is that bad.

[SnaFuBAR]

Watch the tutorials several more times.

[Leiukemia]

Yeah, also, I recommend you watch that rendering tutorial I made that flyinrooster posted. It'll show a much better representation of your model, while also making it easier to find things to fix.

[Elite Killa]

Okay, my renders may suck, but heres a pic of a newer thingy that I spent about 4 hours on (Not dont yet lulz <_<)

but I just would like to check if this is an imrpovement on the one at the beginning of this topic (used plane modeling)

PS: Thanks for the tut hunter.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective-3.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/side-3.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective2-1.jpg

Ew. Just Ew.

A lot of the concepts on your model compared to the reference is completely wrong. The sight looks wrong. The trigger is definently wrong. Hell, everything on it looks wrong.

[Hunter]

Make the gun from the plane modeling tutorial 1st, it will help you alot.

[Sel]

Make the gun from the plane modeling tutorial 1st, it will help you alot.

I couldnt find the pictures for the one in the tut, but I did use one on a pistol (figured thatd be closer) and this is what I came up with .

those odd roundy type faces around the handle are pissing the fuck out of me, but I cant get them to go away :(

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/1.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/extended.jpg

[Hurrvish]

:gonk::gonk::gonk::gonk::gonk::gonk::gonk::gonk:
Which pistol did you try to model?

[Archon23]

I can't begin to name the things wrong with that, and I'm just talking gun wise not model

http://www.h2vista.net/forums/h2images/smilies/extra/gonk.gif

[Bastinka]

:words: but I cant get them to go away :(

Well, if you don't know how to do that then you obviously didn't plane model that.

Also, that's disgusting :puke:

[LlamaMaster]

Oh my god how did you even manage to fuge up a pistol that bad!? No offence, but that just might be the worst pistol model I have ever seen. I honestly have no idea how your modeling this garbage. Please, for the love of Jesus, next time when you see a non-planner, fix it the moment you see it. If you don't....well....your left with what you just made.

[Archon23]

I mean your worse than Neostyles. Thats saying something.

[Hurrvish]

What are you all smoking!? That's the BEST model ever! It puts Snaf's models to SHAME man. To SHAME http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-argh.gif

[LlamaMaster]

What are you all smoking!? That's the BEST model ever! It puts Snaf's models to SHAME man. To SHAME http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-argh.gif
Gtfo off my bandwagon.

[SnaFuBAR]

use the cut tool on vertices and move them around to get rid of non-planars. also, i wouldn't bother saving this model. redo it. you'll learn plenty about your mistakes.

[Hunter]

you are getting there, keep practicing.

[Bastinka]

you are getting there, keep practicing.
Lol no, hes not really progressing much. He is still thinking models need to look 'smooth' by meshsmoothing or tesselating or whatever he does!

[Tweek]

STOP TOUCHING THAT TESSELATE BUTTON!

to everyone here posting:
get the fuck off that bandwagon you idiots, half of you suck just as much, wich means you've got no right to bash, we've HAD THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE!
the lack of respect in this thread is rediculous, and the amount of lost face is beyond measuring. you should all be fucking ashamed.

snaf, i expected better judgement from you, dont come to me in this thread, come to me on aim if this makes you go "wtf".

to selentic:
model-wise, it's not that terrible.
it's bad, but not a monstrosity as these ssholes make it out to be.
it's the way you're presenting it wich makes the morons here freak out.

here's what you can do to fix it up a bit.
first of all, stop hitting the tesselate button.
next, select your model, rightclick it, and convert to editable poly.(see image 1)
http://xs219.xs.to/xs219/07361/rightclick.JPG

then, go to polygon-mode, and hit ctrl-A, wic selects all faces, and at least give it a little auto-smooth, to get rid of the most obvious non-planar faces, and make it a bit more presentable (see image 2)
http://xs219.xs.to/xs219/07361/smooth.jpg

[Patrickssj6]

STOP TOUCHING THAT TESSELATE BUTTON!
You have no idea...tsktsktsk

Tessellate and the Optimizer modifier are a great combination...

...of ruining your model, which in this case can only improve it :)

[Bastinka]

:words:
How come you just posted, but your not on MSN or AIM :eyesroll:

[Apoc4lypse]

all you did was tesselate the halo AR, drag things around and extrude some things. i don't believe you imported the halo AR for a reference at all, because you imported it to change it.

lol... although you could be right, I dont think it looks good enough to even be a modified AR that was imported, but then again who knows :D

But yeah... learn plane modeling and start over, its way to high poly and can't really be salvaged.


EDIT: wow... im way to late with that comment... w/e

as for the pistol... its not that bad of a model actualy like tweek said, but the problem is the nonplanar faces, and things that just don't belong, as for the rest I'm no gun freak... basicaly the model needs alot of cleaning and face recreation. (delete the messy spots and remake them using face create, except make the spots that should be flat flat.)

EDIT: forgot to add this...

quit trolling with the trash comments, sure say its bad, then leave, unless you have anything helpful to provide for this topic, just leave, do us a favor and don't click the reply button, "its bad" has been said already, we don't need like 30 other people to jump in and say the same damn thing over and over, its almost the same thing as double posting for Christ sakes.

[DaneO'Roo]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective-3.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/side-3.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective2-1.jpg


Holy shit, this replaced Meatspin as the gayest thing on the internet.

lulz deja vu mb?

[Bad Waffle]

THIS TOPIC SHOULD JUST GTFO. NOW.

[SnaFuBAR]

Wave, your absence from AIM is unacceptable. Please report in. We have things to discuss. That is all.

E: www.world.guns.ru

[Patrickssj6]

How come you just posted, but your not on MSN or AIM :eyesroll:
Wait, what? Am I obligated to?

[Bastinka]

Wait, what? Am I obligated to?
Yes. :)

[PlasbianX]

Anybody got any thoughts on what can be improved on this model?

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective-2.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective2.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective3.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/side-2.jpg

Also, Id appreciate it if anyone could link me to a tutorial for making a weapon display, I havent seen one on ghosts tut resource.

What cant be improved on that thing?

As for this orc model, i dont even think you modeled it. Looks like you found an orc somewhere, found a reference that was similar, put the two together, and posted thinking "WTF h2V wiLL leIK thinkz i cAn Modelz y0!"

[TeeKup]

Wrong thread Plas. X3

[Sel]

I have progressed a lot since this topic, look at the damn creation date

/lock