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Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 10:29 AM
maptest, apply here.

it's totaly poly heavy, and unoptimised, and unportalled, so i'm going to ask, only people who are confident they can run this shit at a decent framerate apply.

it's going to be completely untextured, un lit, and unpopulated, exept for some vehicles and weapons. this is PURELY a gameplay-test.

cool people get preference over people i dont give a shit about.
test will be in about one and a half hours from now. (look @ time posted)
(that'd be 18:30-ish, gmt +1)

i need 16 people.



http://xs319.xs.to/xs319/07386/lafflecakies.jpg
thats the map, in case anyone has followed it.



(this is all assuming i can actually get stuff to work, so don't cry when i can't, and there's no test afterall)

Sever
September 23rd, 2007, 10:50 AM
Oy! I'm in if you like me. I'll be able to give good feedback also. Map layout is my main field. I'll be able to tell you what to change/add/subtract to balance the flow while keeping true to your original layout. Weapons, spawns, vehicles and scenery placements are my secondary field. I know how a simple bit of rocket launcher ammo or a turret can change the way everyone plays certain regions of the map, and I can place them properly as to keep the combat flowing smoothly.

Love De Lux
September 23rd, 2007, 10:53 AM
I play with 30fps lock.

I should be there for the test.

I'm French. That make me awesome.

Pick me.

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 10:55 AM
radiosity time so far: only the first 000000 spotted so far, then itll proapbly skip to like 50 or whatever lmfao. told it to stop at 0.999999 that was half an hour ago xD

Skyline
September 23rd, 2007, 11:04 AM
Me :haw:.

Patrickssj6
September 23rd, 2007, 11:13 AM
No access to HCE :cry:

make sure you guys headshot skyline many times if he gets chose to beta

Skyline
September 23rd, 2007, 11:15 AM
No access to HCE :cry:

make sure you guys headshot skyline many times if he gets chose to beta
I will find a way to headshot myself :downs:.

I know conscars knows how to shoot yourself in halo 2 :3.

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 11:22 AM
09.23.07 17:14:41 radiosity error: smooth triangle group too big for page material

lmfao.

here we go again.

fatso784
September 23rd, 2007, 11:51 AM
My pc will be able to run it, so I'll be happy to help. Hopefully you can get this to work..

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 12:03 PM
due to lightmaps taking stupidly long, i'm going to postpone this by an hour. new time is (that'd be 19:30-ish, gmt +1)

that's assuming it actually works THIS time, if it doesn't. maybe tomorrow.
ill have to see what tool spits at me.

PenGuin1362
September 23rd, 2007, 12:06 PM
you know ya love me tweek :awesome:

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 12:29 PM
it's weird, it's already taking twice as long as the previous radiosity run.
don't know why, but it's weird.

it's being a genuine bitch. it was supposed to be done half an hour ago, but it's still going.
at this rate, it's going to be tomorrow instead of today. i'll give it another half hour, and if it's not done by then, it's done for today.

when that time comes.te than never i guess. whatever.
meh. better late than never i guess. whatever.

update in 30 mins.

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 01:19 PM
no go.

try again tomorrow.

in the mean time, feel free to ask for beta here.

Pooky
September 23rd, 2007, 01:43 PM
I can play maps like Covenant at 80 fps, sign me up

Syuusuke
September 23rd, 2007, 01:45 PM
I'll take pat's place.

Elite Killa
September 23rd, 2007, 02:05 PM
My computer can probably handle it.

SnaFuBAR
September 23rd, 2007, 02:35 PM
i got it covered my man.

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 02:37 PM
okay lol, found out what was taking so long.
http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07380/lolbad.jpg

i knew SOMETHING was wrong when tool suddenly said 3000-something degenerate triangles instead of 3 :P

guess that was a mess up in the exporter :D

legionaire45
September 23rd, 2007, 02:49 PM
I'll take a beta seat if you want, although I'm in school from 8:45 to 15:40 PST tomorrow, so if thats when you want to schedule it I'll decline.

Gamerkd16
September 23rd, 2007, 03:13 PM
I'll help too.

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 03:41 PM
I'll help too.

you can put your mind at ease, you're not getting a beta because i don't like you. :lol:

SMASH
September 23rd, 2007, 03:55 PM
I'd like to test this map, this looks awesome :).

Bad Waffle
September 23rd, 2007, 04:09 PM
i would help you beta, too bad my halo thinks that i have dx 8 without grafics acceleration...

Gamerkd16
September 23rd, 2007, 04:16 PM
you can put your mind at ease, you're not getting a beta because i don't like you. :lol:

Wow, just wow...

Mass
September 23rd, 2007, 04:39 PM
Wow, just wow...

Tweek is blunt about things. Get over it.
And that's why he's so damn :cool:.

Anyway, I'd ask to beta but I realized my crappy GFX and lack of time pretty much made it a stupid request.

Also, my exporters do funky shit too, although that pic....:-3

SnaFuBAR
September 23rd, 2007, 04:44 PM
you're not getting a beta because i don't like you. :lol:
SnaF:highfive:Tweek

Gamerkd16
September 23rd, 2007, 04:56 PM
If by blunt, you mean an ass. Jeeze, I've never been discriminated against in such a way before. :eyesroll:

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 04:58 PM
get outta my thread whiner.

Gamerkd16
September 23rd, 2007, 05:01 PM
In what way is that whining?

And isn't this a remake of a Halo 3 map? It looks like that Guardian one.

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 05:02 PM
shut up.
and no.

Syuusuke
September 23rd, 2007, 05:02 PM
cool people get preference over people i dont give a shit about

Should've considered that before posting then.

Whoa wait =(

Mass
September 23rd, 2007, 05:13 PM
If by blunt, you mean an ass. Jeeze, I've never been discriminated against in such a way before. :eyesroll:

This is the internet, (which in itself notable for not being a big truck) a land free of the social regulations that have plagued western society for centuries. He's not an ass, he tells the truth to your face. And since when did honesty=discrimination?

Gamerkd16
September 23rd, 2007, 05:15 PM
Should've considered that before posting then.

Whoa wait =(
Wait what? Your another one of the people who doesn't give a shit about ?:eyesroll:

And my bad. It was The Narrows I meant, not Guardian.

http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/thumb/b/bc/H3_Narrows.jpg/600px-H3_Narrows.jpg

They do look similar.

Syuusuke
September 23rd, 2007, 05:39 PM
Wait what? Your another one of the people who doesn't give a shit about ?
I don't know, that's not up to me to decide.

What time is "tomorrow" for in GMT-5?

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 05:41 PM
dunno, cant be arsed to go fund out. i guess in uhhh like 14-15 hours or something.

give or take a day.

Gamerkd16
September 23rd, 2007, 05:49 PM
This is the internet, (which in itself notable for not being a big truck) a land free of the social regulations that have plagued western society for centuries. He's not an ass, he tells the truth to your face. And since when did honesty=discrimination?


"Most broadly, discrimination is the discernment of qualities and rejection of subjects with undesirable qualities."But I give up. There's no explaining things to you guys here.

Carry on..

Con
September 23rd, 2007, 05:55 PM
do want :o

TeeKup
September 23rd, 2007, 06:09 PM
If by blunt, you mean an ass. Jeeze, I've never been discriminated against in such a way before. :eyesroll:

Welcome to the Halo Community kid, get over it.

PlasbianX
September 23rd, 2007, 06:40 PM
If ya need someone with a high end pc, and ya dont have enough people, ill test.

Other than that, i like the design of it :o

Tweek
September 23rd, 2007, 07:20 PM
great, i think there's a limit to how many polygons the engine wants to draw, any over that, and it'll just start culling faces at random or something.
pix:
http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07391/cullingftl.jpg
guess ill need some portals in there, but how do i portal a fully outdoor enviroment? O_o

anyway, judging from that image, the engine won't draw more than, i don't know, about 25k polygons or so.
weird, but oh well. you now know what to expect :/

DaneO'Roo
September 23rd, 2007, 07:27 PM
Tweek just chop some polies or maybe remove some of the detail you have on the upper side thingos. I can do that with textures and shit anyway, but keep your ubet detailed model for another engine ;D

t3h m00kz
September 23rd, 2007, 07:41 PM
I apply. I'm able to point out very slight weapon/level balance issues, as well as graphical flaws, and, well, testing would be fun. Lol.

PlasbianX
September 23rd, 2007, 07:44 PM
great, i think there's a limit to how many polygons the engine wants to draw, any over that, and it'll just start culling faces at random or something.
pix:
http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07391/cullingftl.jpg
guess ill need some portals in there, but how do i portal a fully outdoor enviroment? O_o

anyway, judging from that image, the engine won't draw more than, i don't know, about 25k polygons or so.
weird, but oh well. you now know what to expect :/

Theres a max amount of polys per BSP cluster that you can have. I had a rather large structure map (teekup probably remembers it. Aperture? ;d) and it would only render so many at a time.

Roostervier
September 23rd, 2007, 09:16 PM
"Most broadly, discrimination is the discernment of qualities and rejection of subjects with undesirable qualities."But I give up. There's no explaining things to you guys here.

Carry on..
Go outside and have fun in RL then, mister. No seriously, get over it you baby. Also, still whining. D:

If my CPU wasn't having heat problems I'd help, but I'm not sure if you know me enough for me to beta anyway. Also, looks awesome. :awesome:

Archon23
September 24th, 2007, 01:14 AM
I'll apply. I can deal with lag so Id test it even if it does lag (long as it doesn't drop belo2 5 FPS but this PC isn't exactly that sucky) :downs:

LinkandKvel
September 24th, 2007, 01:33 AM
I'll volunteer if you need backups or anyone when one of the main testers isn't available. I'm usually on at least 3:30 - 10:00. If you need the test to be later could you please send me an PM in advance, or you could contact my xfire which is linkandkvel. Even if i'm not chosen thanks for the oppurtunity.

Gamerkd16
September 24th, 2007, 01:42 AM
I swear to God, if you start with that "OMG THIS PLACE IS CORRUPT!!!11" shit again, I will fucking tear you apart. Tweek isn't going to give his latest work to some kid he neither knows nor cares about, especially when he witnessed said kid acting like a total fucktard across what, 3 threads?

You should be glad that's all he said, jackass. Quit crying and drop it.

Then he shouldn't ask publicly if he's just going invite his closest friends. It's called a PM message.

DaneO'Roo
September 24th, 2007, 01:58 AM
Not only have I got alpha, I also have raw mawdelz (old ones)

Tweek send meh new one :shakesfist:

Tweek
September 24th, 2007, 05:37 AM
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i like how you turned off your rep overnight.

LlamaMaster
September 24th, 2007, 09:48 AM
I'd help if not for that fact that:

A. My graphics are the shit.

B. You don't like me. :(

Also, gamekid, disabling rep just makes you look like a pussy who can't take the heat. On top of that, from what I've seen it makes disliked members (like digikid) hated even more because they spew crap all over the forums because theres no consequence. I've gotten a shit load of -rep myself, but i'm not going to hide behind a gray bar because of it....

Cortexian
September 24th, 2007, 10:11 AM
If your still looking for volunteers, my PC and are ready and waiting.

StankBacon
September 24th, 2007, 10:15 AM
i can handle it :D

Patrickssj6
September 24th, 2007, 10:32 AM
People chill and leave him alone ^^

I know I said this once but, you guys are worse than German on vacation ^^

Who cares about the rep sys.? It's an irrelevant system, representing nothing but is influenced by too many factors.

Only people that have some kind of a real-life social disadvantage are proud of their rep. :D



On top of that, from what I've seen it makes disliked members (like digikid) hated even more because they spew crap all over the forums because theres no consequence.

Ok..ok...I re-enabled my rep yesterday...now people give me the reps I missed in that time :p

Sever
September 24th, 2007, 11:01 AM
Ok..ok...I re-enabled my rep yesterday...now people give me the reps I missed in that time :p

Disabling your rep does not disable your ability to get rep, it just disables the display of your current rep.

Patrickssj6
September 24th, 2007, 11:04 AM
Disabling your rep does not disable your ability to get rep, it just disables the display of your current rep.
But the people don't give out rep anymore because they think you don't care anymore.

Need a proof?
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You may notice the dates...I re-enabled my rep on the 22nd...I received so many reps without any reason :D

Con
September 24th, 2007, 11:26 AM
way to conform, patty :awesome:

Patrickssj6
September 24th, 2007, 11:31 AM
way to conform, patty :awesome:
from 3 bars to 4 bars in 1 day and I trespassed noobinator. I love you too :awesome:

Also, we should get back on topic :)

Tweek
September 24th, 2007, 01:16 PM
okay, i'm compiling now, and uploading.

test in 30 mins. i'll PM links to people.

Tweek
September 24th, 2007, 01:29 PM
oh ye, can someone host?
because i cant.

Tweek
September 24th, 2007, 01:31 PM
big fat care

look for the server in the list sometime in between now and 30 minutes.

[POOF, link gone!]

link will only be up today.

if anyone puts this on halomaps or whatever. it's done. ill scrap this, and it'll never be completed.

please keep this restricted to these boards only.
if i see random noobs playing this map on CE whenever, then it's also kaput, and done and over.

be responsible.

Rosco
September 24th, 2007, 01:31 PM
Then he shouldn't ask publicly if he's just going invite his closest friends. It's called a PM message.

There are people who aren't in contact with him that he likes.

You're going blunt because he didn't accept you. How can he sugar coat his message without saying the truth.

Love De Lux
September 24th, 2007, 01:34 PM
Downloading.

Also, Tweek, I suggest to you to hide that link. And take the time to PM it to the people you want to test the map.

Tweek
September 24th, 2007, 01:41 PM
ok, to all people who received a PM, or got the map from here.

the server is now up, and limited to 12 people.
if you're cool, but the server is full, contact me on msn/aim, and ill kick some un-cool people.

simple as that.

Tweek
September 24th, 2007, 02:47 PM
test over, got some good info.

time to fix what needs to be fixed, and will have another beta sometime soon, like in a few days or something, to see if it has improved the mechanics.

Con
September 24th, 2007, 03:09 PM
might wanna do something about parking vehicles at the end of the lower level with the turret sticking through the ceiling, I could camp the base that way.

PlasbianX
September 24th, 2007, 03:26 PM
Bah missed the test. Was at school :X

Sever
September 24th, 2007, 05:54 PM
Me too... I would still really like to help with weapon/vehicle/scenery/spawn layout suggestions. Drop me a line if you want any help with that.

Vernancelet
September 24th, 2007, 06:14 PM
LET ME TEST! MY XFIRE IS VERN125!!!!!!

LlamaMaster
September 24th, 2007, 06:16 PM
ima noob give it now!!!1!
No. Also, I missed the beta because of school.... :(

Tweek
September 24th, 2007, 06:21 PM
LET ME TEST! MY XFIRE IS VERN125!!!!!!
any minute now, someone in this world, is going to fucking e-rip your e-throat out of your miserable little e-shell of failure.

how does it feel when everybody laughs at you?

Mass
September 24th, 2007, 06:37 PM
LET ME TEST! MY XFIRE IS VERN125!!!!!!

You make me laugh.

LlamaMaster
September 24th, 2007, 06:39 PM
"You must spread some some reputation around before giving it to tweek again."
Stupid rep. :(

Pooky
September 24th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Didn't figure I'd get in :(

Syuusuke
September 24th, 2007, 06:46 PM
how does it feel when everybody laughs at you?
I would feel like a clown! A humiliated one.

legionaire45
September 25th, 2007, 02:36 AM
I'll be up for a round on the weekend if you do one. Looks like school is going to be a bitch this week D=.

Tweek
September 25th, 2007, 08:43 AM
yeah if anytime, i'll do it on the weekend, since out of the like 20 people i sent a message, only 5 or 6 showed up :P

OmegaDragon
September 25th, 2007, 09:40 AM
It would be awesome if I could, but I can't because I think it is a bit too much for my computer to handle :(

Tweek
September 25th, 2007, 11:15 AM
I HATE MAKING PORTALS FFS!

Sever
September 25th, 2007, 11:25 AM
But we will all love you for it in the end!

Tweek
September 25th, 2007, 11:47 AM
honestly, i think it's just 100&#37; random wether they work or not.

Syuusuke
September 25th, 2007, 05:36 PM
You know, all this time of hoping of getting this map ended up having me realize that I don't have CE installed, AND I can host a 14-16man server.

Think you can get other good views of your map?

Tweek
September 25th, 2007, 06:15 PM
ill have another beta in the weekend or something
assuming i can get the fucking portals to work.

keep getting unearthed edges, OUTSIDE the bsp.
thing is, that shouldnt be possible. they should only appear inside.

any porta-pro's around?

SonicMaster326
September 27th, 2007, 09:27 PM
You can let your good friend Zoidberg into the beta, right?
http://www.makezine.com/blog/283555079_addd7111f9_b.jpg
I'll be on my PC all weekend.

Sever
September 27th, 2007, 09:44 PM
What The Fuck.

AAA
September 27th, 2007, 10:06 PM
Hey, is this new beta still up for testing? I'd like to be a part. If that's not a problem.

and..

Why do we not ban Gamerkd? =\

Tweek
September 28th, 2007, 04:52 AM
no, aaa, because you're a fat leaker as well.
i remember coldsnap.

Tweek
September 28th, 2007, 02:15 PM
ok fuck this. even when my portals DO work, they only make stuff worse in CE. screw CE. i'll try it for h2Vista. and if that won't draw the gayness either. screw halo, i'll aim for UT3 then.

this also means i can stop fucking with portals, and just get to finishing the map geometry

Con
September 28th, 2007, 09:18 PM
Yeah, tough map to portal.

GREYL
September 29th, 2007, 02:20 PM
HEY GUYS i just read this topic is there still a place for me to test?

Skyline
September 29th, 2007, 02:23 PM
Read it again.


ok fuck this. even when my portals DO work, they only make stuff worse in CE. screw CE. i'll try it for h2Vista. and if that won't draw the gayness either. screw halo, i'll aim for UT3 then.

this also means i can stop fucking with portals, and just get to finishing the map geometry

Capt. Stacker
September 29th, 2007, 03:28 PM
Ill volunteer, i haven't been on these forums in a while though, Looks like the Halo 3 map in the last ViDoc
EDIT:
Just read.. nvm :(

GREYL
September 29th, 2007, 03:52 PM
i dont understand al this very much could u explain me? pls let me test this because thinhgs happened on my pc and i got a new one and i need some cool maps to play or to try and thins would be perfect pls pls pls:(

Skyline
September 29th, 2007, 03:55 PM
ok fuck this. even when my portals DO work, they only make stuff worse in CE. screw CE. i'll try it for h2Vista. and if that won't draw the gayness either. screw halo, i'll aim for UT3 then.

this also means i can stop fucking with portals, and just get to finishing the map geometry
The beta is OVER. Better?

Also don't bother begging; it doesn't work ;).

GREYL
September 29th, 2007, 04:02 PM
lol how the hell wuld i know xD ?? ok now i do and its ok....its nto that i woyuld die for it * bangs head on keybored*xD

Skyline
September 29th, 2007, 04:07 PM
I don't know. How did I ever figure this ou- oh wait I read, thats how.

screw CE.


i'll try it for h2Vista.


ok fuck this.


i'll aim for UT3 then.


this also means i can stop fucking with portals, and just get to finishing the map geometry

GREYL
September 29th, 2007, 04:20 PM
dude sorry for beeing a damn german that doesnt understand everything as well as u do ....

Tweek
September 29th, 2007, 04:22 PM
what's with the idiots?

stop bumping this. this is over.
greyl, you're a dumbshit. learn to read.