Warthog Limo.

[Hunter]

This is to people who know about physics:

Would a warthog limo work ok if i re-made the physics exactly the same apart from the new sections in the middle were extra seats are.

I would make the middle section less as heavy as the front and back. would it be balanced?

Because i haven't made anything for Halo Custom Edition for ages, so i thought i should have a go at a Warthog Limo. :)

[Patrickssj6]

Aeh...why shouldn't it work? :confused:

[Tweek]

do you even know how to make a vehicle in the first place?

if you don't, you have no idea what you're getting into, because vehicles are one of the harder things to do in HCE.

try making a box-vehicle first, see if you can even understand what the hell you're doing, functions bound to shaders, animations, mass, physics. this isn't simple makemodel-export-done shit.

i dont think you've got a clue of what you're doing, so i'm going to say no.
if you did it, it wouldn't work.

[Hunter]

I have been modding Halo Custom Edition for some time now, i have understanding of almost everything. I just never have time to make good work. Im not saying im the best, but i understand how the engine works, i understand allmost every tag.

I know what im doing.

Trust me.

I aint a newbie. noob.

here is a very quick render, it is in a big mess, and i need to do loads more work.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/warthog_limo.png
It need smoothing, unwraping so that i can texture it. and i need to add more stuff as well. and fix errors.

[Apoc4lypse]

it would work if done correctly, altho I doubt it would handle like the real warthog, it would feel kind of heavy do to the new sections, and it should...

but yes its possible if you know what your doing.

I'm also not sure if I agree here on maps being easier then vehicles, altho I never finished a fully polished off either of the 2, maps tend to be seen as easier. Simply because there very easy to make if you don't try to make the map good... its easy to make a map, but its hard to make a good and well polished map with everything. (Not just a good model and good textures, but also a good environment with nice effects, sounds, portals, the "whole nine yards"). On the other hand a vehicle might be hard to learn how to make because it might take a little longer to comprehend how to make one, but it is actually a lot less work when compared to making a good map. Although if were talking about making a polished off vehicle with completely custom sounds, then I'd say it approaches being almost as challenging as making a well polished map.

So in short, maps are only easy because there very easy to "half ass" vehicles are hard to "half ass" because they can't really be "half assed" or they just plane won't work. :)

EDIT: Criticism for the model would be that it needs more originality, it looks like you took the warthog model, and stretched out the middle, something that could be done in less than 5 seconds. The smoothing groups are also just not right at all.

[Mass]

hog is ick, also I believe you just called tweek a noob, I will have to keep up with this thread now.

why wouldn't it work?

[Limited]

Sure, theres no reason it shouldnt work. Unless yo mess up that is.

You'd have to make it handle completely different than the hog does however, to make it controlable.

[OmegaDragon]

1)Been done before.
2)Looks weird/like crap.
3)You just insulted the worst person to insult ever.
4)Needs more hot tub in the back.

[Bathroom Security]

5) Horrible gas mileage.

[LlamaMaster]

Oh Christ, Tweek is going to kill you.
Funny thing is, I'm anticipating this showdown much like a hyped movie. Tweek is going to saluter you like a kitten in a wood chipper.

That model is blah btw, needs more win and less suck. Also, quite acting all high and mighty, because it turns out you ARE A NOOB.

[Mr Buckshot]

5) Horrible gas mileage.

Don't they run on hydrogen or something in 2552...

[Varmint260]

Why should they? They control the natural resources of how many planets, so gas prices should go WAY down ;)

Anyways, definitely needs more hot tub.

[Teroh]

Don't they run on hydrogen or something in 2552...
Dude, in 2552, they run off of pure liquid radiation.
Liquid radiation.

[SnaFuBAR]

Tweek is going to saluter you like a kitten in a wood chipper.
:lmao: i just seriously lol'd. that was a great image in my head. see my sig for likely retort.

and obviously butchering the reference model for the hog and turning it into a limo just doesn't cut it. you could've done something cool with it but yeah, that looks like something that fell out of my bottom this morning.

[Tweek]

I just never have time to make good work.

so you're a lazy shit.


Im not saying im the best, but i understand how the engine works, i understand allmost every tag.


enlighten us.



I know what im doing.


if you did, this thread wouldn't be here now, would it?




I aint a newbie.
yes you are.



noob.
dum dum dummmmm you're so cool now.
kettle, black, etc.



here is a very quick render, it is in a big mess, and i need to do loads more work.

[epic fail un-unwrapped/textured model]

It need smoothing, unwraping so that i can texture it. and i need to add more stuff as well. and fix errors.

no, you need to make your own shit instead of ripping and copypasting pieces of model.

you won't survive our next encounter.
insulting people isn't a good practice to get into, unless you can afford it.

you can't.
trash.

and try to fix your god damn spelling.

[StankBacon]

omgz i cant wate 4 tweak to come talk shit about your modulz.

highlite of my days!

[Tweek]

i no RITE?!

[n00b1n8R]

:anticlimax:

[Hunter]

What, i didnt call tweek a noob. I ment i aint a newbie noob, i put a fullstop in there by mistake. i was calling newbies noobs.
(well some newbies who just ignoy people and look for tutorials)
And there isnt any smoothing groups on there yet. i took them off for the moment.

getting better?
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/warthog_limo2.png
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/warthog_limo3.png
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/warthog_limo4.png

And don't start pointing out the errors in the faces. because i know there are loads of errors.

[Patrickssj6]

Errors? The hot tub is still missing <VERYMAD>

Also, :lmao: @ thread. Full of win. Reping spree.

[Hunter]

I basicly started this fucking thread for advice on how to make it better.

I haven't got time because im lazy, i haven't got time because im behind on my course work at school because im doing my GCSE's, i am also out alot.

I am not a newbie, i have been in the Halo community for like 1 year, and most people here are fucking pricks.

They just like to insult other peoples work, not help them out on how to improve it.

I dont give a shit if i did use the warthog model. I have still made alot of the parts my self, and re modeled most of it.

I understand the following;

Partical Systems;
Halo Engine;
Sprites;
Custom HUD;
Vehicles;
Weapons;
Effects;
And im not writing down every tag that i understand because it will take ages because there are loads of tag in halo.

And there are probobly more things that i could list but i cant think of them at the moment.

[ontopic]
[How can i improve it?

[LlamaMaster]

Were fucking pricks eh? No. Get the fuck out.

:gtfo:

Looks like shit btw. If you want good crit, don't act like a dumbass.

[Hunter]

I said most people, i wasn't saying that you were.

[Tweek]

so are you saying that i am?

[Pooky]

They just like to insult other peoples work, not help them out on how to improve it.

People aren't stupid, they can tell if you're really being serious about getting better. No ones going to give a shit about someone who shows their work without making a clear and individual effort to get better (rather than relying completely on others), hence people like you get flamed. If you want newbs to tell you how great your work is regardless of how much it sucks, try the halomaps forums.

[Skyline]

I dont give a shit if i did use the warthog model. I have still made alot of the parts my self, and re modeled most of it.
The parts you made yourself are full of errors.



I am not a newbie, i have been in the Halo community for like 1 year, and most people here are fucking pricks.

Just because you've been in a community for a long time doesn't make you better. Noob :downs:.


I haven't got time because im lazy, i haven't got time because im behind on my course work at school because im doing my GCSE's, i am also out alot.

Easy, don't mod halo and you will have more time to do your work.

[Masterz1337]

I understand the following;

Partical Systems;
Halo Engine;
Sprites;
Custom HUD;
Vehicles;
Weapons;
Effects;
And im not writing down every tag that i understand because it will take ages because there are loads of tag in halo.

[How can i improve it?
Didn't you beg me for help on.... all of those?

[teh lag]

I haven't got time because im lazy, i haven't got time because im behind on my course work at school because im doing my GCSE's, i am also out alot.

If you don't have time, then don't fucking try. Either apply yourself to learning, or don't waste our time and your time doing a half-assed job that turns out like shit.


I am not a newbie, i have been in the Halo community for like 1 year, and most people here are fucking pricks.

Then you obviously wasted that year, or there's no way you'd be covering your ass right now.

[Roostervier]

Don't they run on hydrogen or something in 2552...
Yeah, they do actually (on one of the gas tank "crates" in Halo 3 I spied the word "hydrogen.")

Also, lag, +rep if I can.

Model is shit btw. Don't rip, make your own custom.

[kenney001]

TLShunter, chill out a bit. You come here, you post something, we tell you exactly how we feel, unlike over at halomaps where its always "OMFG HAX4RS LEET MODEL U ROXX!!!", we give you our honest-to-god opinion, and this is also on-par with the fact that everyone here is many steps above in skill what halomaps is.

The thing with tweek was a very very bad TYPO. Just dont use the words "noob, fuck, or shut up" in your post, and refrain from flaiming us, and we will help you (Although most of the more expirienced here are complete ass holes to the new people, I wont go into that.....)

[ICEE]

http://planetrobot.net/caplog/b2EGraphics/2007/07-05/Update_DoNotWant.jpg

[CtrlAltDestroy]

I understand the following;

Partical Systems;
Halo Engine;
Sprites;
Custom HUD;
Vehicles;
Weapons;
Effects;
And im not writing down every tag that i understand because it will take ages because there are loads of tag in halo.

Oh, I do to, but I actually have something to show for it. :)

[kenney001]

Oh, I do to, but I actually have something to show for it. :)

really?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Of course. :)

[m13120]

:picsorstfu:
/sarcasm

[Mass]

Response was true and thorough, but is lacking lulz; I wish Tweek had been less bored by your stupid and predictable response.

The hog is disgusting, and it offers no significant gameplay value.

Also, I do believe you are bitching.

I would make up a metaphor about how stupid your argument is, but you've bored me as well.

[ICEE]

hahaha long rossmum rant quoting several sentences of the same post... good times...good times...

[Limited]

hahaha long rossmum rant quoting several sentences of the same post... good times...good times...Uh yeah, no one cares you liked it. Werent you a ripper at one time? Or was that the other guy.

Anyways hunter, you need alot more details on the vehicle model, no point trying to tag it,add nodes, whatever your plan on doing (as you said you knew how to) until the model is pretty much 100% done. How to make it more detaily? Try to make it more realistic, the sides is just basically a few polys, is that how the real hog is? Of course not, there is like mud guards and shit like that, ok so you dont have to have a mega ultra detailed model, but right now it is very bare.

[Bad Waffle]

you know what, i think im going to take an hour of my time and spend it on modelling a better warthog.

Just, you know, because i can.

and then i'll give it jet engines. And a time machine. And it'll shoot lightning.

yeah...

[Rob Oplawar]

OMG WoL sighting! Did you see it?! Did you see it?! Look!! I got a picture!!!1one
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44235000/jpg/_44235281_skyitem203.jpg

[TPE]

OMG WoL sighting! Did you see it?! Did you see it?! Look!! I got a picture!!!1one
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44235000/jpg/_44235281_skyitem203.jpg
Looks ripped.

[ICEE]

Uh yeah, no one cares you liked it. Werent you a ripper at one time? Or was that the other guy.




it was the other guy :mad: get your facts straight please... i don't like being brought back to that place, just because my friend ripped.

[JDMFSeanP]

Stealth, I'm even more noob then you are, and I don't know an history about tweek or his actions, but I feel as if you need to be more humble to a lot of the people around here. There are some modders here that break new levels and if you respect then, I'm pretty sure most of them would be more then glad to help you. If you would have straight up said I'm not good at this but want to improve, how can I, instead of putting up all this I don't suck I know this this and this, you would probably get a lot more legit help.

Iunno just an idea.

[m13120]

^

Hmm good point where is stealth? He's not on the member list :\

[m13120]

:smithicide: Not long enough.

[Pooky]

So wait is this guy Stealth?


(protip: 3 days in emo means forever, and vice versa)

Forever means emo in 3 days?

[Limited]

Just thought I'd pitch in, this guy is not stealth.

[JunkfoodMan]

About that GCSE Coursework point you made?
Its fucking easy. With all of that coursework taking up your time, gosh, what on earth will you do about your modeling? ~:awesome:>
Plus, its always given to you a week (at absolute minimum) before it's due in, usually for about...3 hours total work time.

Nice excuse.

[Hunter]

Im behind on loads of it, thats why im always busy doing it. And ive got like less than 100 School days to get it ALL done.

Locked.