[W.I.P.] Orc

[Terror(NO)More]

Hey guys and girls heere is somthing ive been working on its my second attempt at a biped well lets see what you think.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/OrcNoSubdivide.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/OrcSubdivide.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Orc2NoSubdivide.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Orc2Subdivide.jpg

Now for the many of you who know what mudbox is ill be advancing this and rendering a normal map for the model.

[Roostervier]

Where are his ears and teeth? It also looks like you didn't follow the reference very well. =p

Make the nose bigger too.

[Con]

How about you finish something first instead of pointlessly posting half-assed unfinished models here every so often.

[Terror(NO)More]

I am going to finish this. Yes I may say that about everything I make but everyone on here that post somthing starts somthing new always and everyone on here lik eme has millions of models they want to do.

Also, for refering to the reference I didnt go with it only because when I started 3d modeling it I saw it differently it was drawn.


[Edit]: Well guys I got to go to bed for school well Ill keep you posed up on the work every few days cya.

[Con]

I couldn't understand half of what you just said, only that you were going to finish it. Go ahead, we'll be waiting. Have fun.

[Kalub]

Why is he Asian... Looks like your references suck...

[SnaFuBAR]

wrong section and follow your references.

[n00b1n8R]

Your improving, but I agree with the rest of this thread.

[Tweek]

not a clue...


not. a. clue.
i lol'd hard tbh.
ahahahahahhhahhahaha

ok ill try to be serious here, even though i'm lollin'
try to make a normal human face first.
since that's actually got LOADS of reference, look at wireframes from other great people.
check out www.cgtalk.org (http://www.cgtalk.org), and go to the game art/critique section, and watch other people's work
not only will you see how fucking stupid you are, and how unbelievably horrible you are with this, but you might learn something.

once you can make human faces look like the reference you made them off, then you can TRY to make a deformed one, an orc face in this case.

also: HAHAHAHA i lol'd

[Choking Victim]

he's all neck, try to make the jawline more defined. Also, his eyes are wide as balls. (that means their too wide)

[OmegaDragon]

not a clue...


not. a. clue.
i lol'd hard tbh.
ahahahahahhhahhahaha

ok ill try to be serious here, even though i'm lollin'
try to make a normal human face first.
since that's actually got LOADS of reference, look at wireframes from other great people.
check out www.cgtalk.org (http://www.cgtalk.org), and go to the game art/critique section, and watch other people's work
not only will you see how fucking stupid you are, and how unbelievably horrible you are with this, but you might learn something.

once you can make human faces look like the reference you made them off, then you can TRY to make a deformed one, an orc face in this case.

also: HAHAHAHA i lol'd

Site leads to one of those crappy search spams. Right URL is http://forums.cgsociety.org/ (if it is the same cgtalk that I think it is)

Also, looks oversmoothed.

[SnaFuBAR]

o btw, that's not how face mesh is supposed to look. i would say nice try, but not even that. it's pretty apparent that you don't use tutorials, otherwise you'd know how incredibly wrong your model is turning out.

0/10

[Roostervier]

o btw, that's not how face mesh is supposed to look. i would say nice try, but not even that. it's pretty apparent that you don't use tutorials, otherwise you'd know how incredibly wrong your model is turning out.

0/10
Tbh.

Looks like you tessellated a box and moved verts. :\

[CtrlAltDestroy]

rofl

[I_Am_Error117]

Sumo wrestleing in halo.

Thats the best thing since canned beer and sliced bread.

[Terror(NO)More]

I get your points guys. btw this is my second attemp at a head so just go along with me things will improve.

[Skyline]

Then maybe you should pratice making heads before posting it.

[Con]

I get your points guys. btw this is my second attemp at a head so just go along with me things will improve.
Everyone wants to get their word in, after all, you asked for it by posting here. We're not going to "go along with it" because you asked us to. I wouldn't care if this was your first model, the advice is the same.

[termin8or123]

Then maybe you should pratice making heads before posting it.

Maybe he should get constructive criticism before he starts modeling heads and getting wrong ideas... Its a starter, he wants criticism, help him out.

[Con]

Maybe he should get constructive criticism before he starts modeling heads and getting wrong ideas... Its a starter, he wants criticism, help him out.
It's clear you have no clue what you're talking about.

[SnaFuBAR]

Tbh.

Looks like you tessellated a box and moved verts. :\
sphere...

[Roostervier]

sphere...Oshi, you are right. I noticed the poly that is sort of pointed at the top where it would have all connected. :X

[PopeAK49]

sumo wrestlers are kool i guess..

[termin8or123]

It's clear you have some clue what you're talking about.

Yea, I just read that post while skimming through the threads. Cuz I see tons of bashing on Terror, a lot more than other peeps. But yea... I read that people are...

[Bastinka]

Not to come out of the blur or be mean, but I'm getting a serious hint Terror is either Mentally retarded, autist or really ignorant. :(

I'm not trying to be mean, it just really seems like it. Very odd behavior for just a regular person.

[MNC]

SUMOMAN IS LOOKING SAD ;-;
In other news, define the line between neck and head more.

[jngrow]

Well from the model, you can obviously tell he knows how to move verts around and make a shape. Just do it.. better.

[SnaFuBAR]

please, if you don't know what you're talking about, keep your comments to yourself.

[Umt~Wolf]

Not to come out of the blur or be mean, but I'm getting a serious hint Terror is either Mentally retarded, autist or really ignorant. :(

I'm not trying to be mean, it just really seems like it. Very odd behavior for just a regular person.
Can you vote all three??And yes it looks like sumo wrestler..

[termin8or123]

Not to come out of the blur or be mean, but I'm getting a serious hint Terror is either Mentally retarded, autist or really ignorant. :(

I'm not trying to be mean, it just really seems like it. Very odd behavior for just a regular person.

No he is not any of those...

[Con]

He sure acts it sometimes.

[Sel]

Ugly little bugger he is.

I dont really like it at all, try again.

[DaneO'Roo]

LMFAO HOW DID I MISS THIS

ok ok , rofl.

rofl./sa

lfao lllllllllllll

kk im done.


Looks like complete crud. Why is it terror, you've been modelling for a while now, and you haven't improved? Try.Something.Else.

[Sel]

LMFAO HOW DID I MISS THIS

Ive been asking myself the same thing too.

[Umt~Wolf]

Well he is better then he started now.But it still looks like how it did when he started..I wonder how that works..

[SMASH]

Ugly little bugger he is.

I dont really like it at all, try again.

Maybe you should STFU and stay off the :bandwagon: till you learn to model anything decent yourself.

Also, terror, despite what I said on AIM, this is pretty bad. You caught me in the middle of guitar hero and I didn't really look at it very hard.

[JunkfoodMan]

Maybe you should STFU and stay off the :bandwagon: till you learn to model anything decent yourself.

That was a bit...uncalled for.

[Tweek]

That was a bit...uncalled for.

only a very very teensie weensie itsie bitsy bit.

[termin8or123]

That was a bit...uncalled for.

I don't think it was at all...

[Chewy Gumball]

I don't know why you think he doesn't have the right to post his opinion. It doesn't look too good, you don't have to know how to model well to see that. People could be nicer, less offensive, but they can still post what they think about it if they want.

[Sel]

Maybe you should STFU and stay off the :bandwagon: till you learn to model anything decent yourself.

Also, terror, despite what I said on AIM, this is pretty bad. You caught me in the middle of guitar hero and I didn't really look at it very hard.

Not only can I model better than that, as said below Im perfectly entitled to my opinion, and if I think it looks like crap, why dont you tell me why it doesnt.

[SMASH]

Not only can I model better than that, as said below Im perfectly entitled to my opinion, and if I think it looks like crap, why dont you tell me why it doesnt.

I never said it doesn't. You are only say it looks like crap cause of the :bandwagon:. Learn to model so that you can actually form your own opinion kbyethx.

About the model, it's too boxy. If you look at any professional model, it's triangles specifically placed to form the face. This is kinda like spray and pray with boxes. Try working more with tris rather than boxes terror.

[Tweek]

I never said it doesn't. You are only say it looks like crap cause of the :bandwagon:. Learn to model so that you can actually form your own opinion kbyethx.

About the model, it's too boxy. If you look at any professional model, it's triangles specifically placed to form the face. This is kinda like spray and pray with boxes. Try working more with tris rather than boxes terror.

yes and no, dunno wether i should + or - rep you for that.
ill keep it at that.

[TeeKup]

Not only can I model better than that, as said below Im perfectly entitled to my opinion, and if I think it looks like crap, why dont you tell me why it doesnt.


Anybody got any thoughts on what can be improved on this model?

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/selentic_2007/perspective-2.jpg


You sure can model better than him huh? Do us a favor and shut up.

[Sel]

Im embarassed at that, its pretty damn old and Ive gotten farther than that POS.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/base-1.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/flag.jpg

Im at the bevel, inset, extrude whore stage. And I do believe this trumps his orc.

Either way that is not the point, I am not the basis of quality.

[Tweek]

You sure can model better than him huh? Do us a favor and shut up.

NO U!

you're making another "my cock is bigger than yours" arguement.

drop it.
the fact his head is epic fail has been noted, now stop promoting your cocksize!!

[Bastinka]

Im embarassed at that, its pretty damn old and Ive gotten farther than that POS.

[I like buttsecks.jpg]
Im at the bevel, inset, extrude whore stage. And I do believe this trumps his orc.

Either way that is not the point, I am not the basis of quality.
Alright?

The UV's are really disgusting, and it's no better than his orc. You can't compare structures to Organic models kid, theres not better or worse. Also, really lay off with the bevel, inset whore stage. Thats not an excuse, I make forerunner structures without using inset/bevel at all. I may use extrude sometimes to get the equal amount of extrusion on the same sides, thus making it symmetrical.

Seriously, just no. Show me/us a model that actually you put more than half your mind of creativity into. Don't shlop some crappy model out there and tell us its better than it is. Theres no improvement with you, really. You need to observe structures and see how they are, look at some haloscreenshot/pictures and copy/mimick those until you get the right idea in your mind.

EDIT:

you're making another "my cock is bigger than yours" arguement.

drop it.
the fact his head is epic fail has been noted, now stop promoting your cocksize!!
IAWTP.

[Sel]

Alright?
Also, really lay off with the bevel, inset whore stage. Thats not an excuse, I make forerunner structures without using inset/bevel at all.


Im quite aware its not an excuse, its just farther ahead of the mesh smoothing whore stage where I was in that picture above, about 4 months ago.

Anyway, it would be grand if you just filmed yourself modelling or something, I have nothing against getting better.

[Bastinka]

In-fact I actually did model myself filming a while ago.
p89UJqOpj68

This was a while ago though, but thats basically how I still model. And the music I put in there was because Pat said 'Post hardcore music in the videos guys!'.. So I decided to be a smartass. :)

[Sel]

In-fact I actually did model myself filming a while ago.

I sees youre typos!

+rep

Tutorials that are awesome make your penis bigger.

[Leiukemia]

You're modelling is ok silentwind. But the process has a lot of inefficiancies. The main one being you use editable mesh, and create each triangle instead of one big polygon. I don't know if you're taking this "don't use extrude and bevel" thing too far, because it would've made that pillar type thing in the beginning go a lot faster. You could've just made the shape and then bevelled the edges. Instead you created a bunch of verts, made the polygons for it, had to line up all the coordinates and move them over to the right angle. Don't give advice if you can't do things properly yourself.

[LlamaMaster]

You're modelling is ok silentwind. But the process has a lot of inefficiancies. The main one being you use editable mesh, and create each triangle instead of one big polygon. I don't know if you're taking this "don't use extrude and bevel" thing too far, because it would've made that pillar type thing in the beginning go a lot faster. You could've just made the shape and then bevelled the edges. Instead you created a bunch of verts, made the polygons for it, had to line up all the coordinates and move them over to the right angle. Don't give advice if you can't do things properly yourself.
I agree, I could make the same thing like 5x faster, without ever createing any polys. Yes that uses the tools, but come on, if you got it use it. (as long as it doesn't influence what your modeling, which it used to do with mine...)

[Bastinka]

I remember it being around 2 AM, I was being slow and didn't really know where I was going. I remember talking to Firedragon on Teamspeak or Vent at that time too, and then after that we probably played homeworld 2.

Remember though, that was a while ago. Look at the time it was posted on youtube.

[Terror(NO)More]

Hey Ive sat back and watched you silent, don't go the same path I did, Its very hard to get off, I see you trying to compare up show me or whoever else up on here. Don't do it I did it and it got me nowhere but the community feasting of my stupidity. You are taking the path to no end, and a dead end of people that hate you. I just now have started to get people in this community to be more on my side and not to hate me. I don't have much more to say besides that you better stop what your doing wrong now.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Holy shit, use grammar.

[Roostervier]

The path with no end, that stops at a dead end where people hate you? :X

Also, you aren't his mother. Let him do as he wishes and learn what ever there is to learn by himself. He doesn't need you telling him what to do. In fact, I've seen you doing this a lot as of late. Tbqh, you really haven't changed. Only thing that has changed is now you go around telling people to stop being like you "were." It's pointless, not to mention annoying. <_<

[LlamaMaster]

I only understood half of what you said, but from that half I believe you were stating that silent wind was like you. No. He is much, much better then you. He doesn't need someone like you lecturing him on how to act. I honestly can't understand how you get by in life with your poor grammar. Don't you go to school? Not trying to be an asshat, but come on, change already...

[Bastinka]

Hey Ive sat back and watched you silent, don't go the same path I did, Its very hard to get off, I see you trying to compare up show me or whoever else up on here. Don't do it I did it and it got me nowhere but the community feasting of my stupidity. You are taking the path to no end, and a dead end of people that hate you. I just now have started to get people in this community to be more on my side and not to hate me. I don't have much more to say besides that you better stop what your doing wrong now.
Not to be cocky, but ask anyone around I'm loads better than you. Although I haven't touched 3ds max in a while I can atleast still model. :lmao:

And how exactly are people on your side?


I only understood half of what you said, but from that half I believe you were stating that silent wind was like you. No. He is much, much better then you. He doesn't need someone like you lecturing him on how to act. I honestly can't understand how you get by in life with your poor grammar. Don't you go to school? Not trying to be an asshat, but come on, change already...
This is what gave me a clue he is either autist, mentally retarded or just plain ignorant. I wasn't joking about that you know.

[Tweek]

I don't have much more to say besides that you better stop what your doing wrong now.

is that a THREAT?

[Reaper Man]

In-fact I actually did model myself filming a while ago.
p89UJqOpj68

This was a while ago though, but thats basically how I still model. And the music I put in there was because Pat said 'Post hardcore music in the videos guys!'.. So I decided to be a smartass. :)
I'm sorry, but the way you model is really inefficient. That should've taken 8 minutes tops, not 8 minutes of sped up video.

[Bastinka]

Lol reaperman, I realize that. Let me remind you it was 2 am, I was doing it for the hell of it, I didn't know where I was going with it and the blinking thing at the bottom was firedragon interrupting me. Hah. Good times :]

[Leiukemia]

Then what was the point in posting it?

[Bastinka]

Im quite aware its not an excuse, its just farther ahead of the mesh smoothing whore stage where I was in that picture above, about 4 months ago.

Anyway, it would be grand if you just filmed yourself modelling or something, I have nothing against getting better.
So I decided to pull it out of my youtube account.

Hah.

[Terror(NO)More]

oh my sorry silentwind i meant to put this name instead selentic. so sorry for that misunderstanding i was like whats going on