AMD Phenom or Intel's new chips

[Anton]

Which do you think will be better in performance? Will cost play a role in your decision? And which in the end will have a better upgrade path for the future?

The penryn is 45nm while the Phenom is going with the 65nm technology.





I myself will probably build a system with each of these, but I am still leaning toward the penryn side, due to 45nm.:)

[someone]

I think AMD is going to rape Intel with it's new Phenom processors.

[Dr Nick]

I'm an AMD fan myself.

[Zeph]

Penryn will run more efficient. Thus, it'll be easier for Intel to outpreform AMD with their new chips. AMD is supposed to release a 45nm process not too long after their 65nm hits retail, if memory serves.

I'll probably get a Penryn, as it'll be a better price/preformance and most likely outpreform Phenom. I am interested in the Phenom 4x4 solution.

[Hotrod]

I'm an AMD fan myself.

Same here.

[Xetsuei]

Intel's are still more powerful/efficient, so intel.

[Pooky]

Anything that's not Intel

[DaneO'Roo]

Been reading up on the both of them, various magazines, statistics and such and the phenom falls short by a shitload.

Plus, AMD to me have always been like what ATi is to Nvidia. Almost as good.

Sorry, but almost as good never reaches into my wallet. Nvidia and Intel have always had much more range to choose from anyway, and more bang for the buck.


Also, people need to get off the "I hate Intel" bandwagon. It's about business, guys. They offer better products at better prices, and have far better range, in both product and price. It's not about which guys are the nicer and more deserving guys. "Nice guys who aren't an evil monopolizing corporation" isn't a valid excuse for being sold shittier products at shittier prices. Die in acid please.

[alby]

I'm going to be getting both. Intel will most likely be faster though...

Dano: ATI has better image quality then Nvidia, but loses in performance.

[Cortexian]

I'm going to be getting both. Intel will most likely be faster though...

Dano: ATI has better image quality then Nvidia, but loses in performance.
Not the current gen cards... An 8800 Ultra rapes anything that AMD/ATI can put out currently, in both performance and image quality. Plus, SLI works a helluva lot better then Crossfire...

I'm going to wait for Intel to release it's 45nm line, then upgrade... I'm skipping the 65nm phase.

[DaneO'Roo]

Dano: ATI has better image quality then Nvidia, but loses in performance.

Oh, so thats why nearly every single next gen game for PC displays a nice big "Nvidia, the Way It's Meant To be Played" on startup.

Dam those dev studios, not knowing what they're on about. Don't they know that Ati has betur gragfix??

[Zeph]

Been reading up on the both of them, various magazines, statistics and such and the phenom falls short by a shitload.

Plus, AMD to me have always been like what ATi is to Nvidia. Almost as good.

Sorry, but almost as good never reaches into my wallet. Nvidia and Intel have always had much more range to choose from anyway, and more bang for the buck.


Also, people need to get off the "I hate Intel" bandwagon. It's about business, guys. They offer better products at better prices, and have far better range, in both product and price. It's not about which guys are the nicer and more deserving guys. "Nice guys who aren't an evil monopolizing corporation" isn't a valid excuse for being sold shittier products at shittier prices. Die in acid please.

It goes back and forth. AMD used to offer a superior product. Intel came out with a superior product and took the lead. AMD came out with a new design and took the lead back. It's happened before and it will continue again as AMD is innovating their architecture to do things better while Intel is just squeezing the most out of what they've got right now. The same happened between ATI and nVidia. Video card venders tend to keep the lead for three or four generations before swapping off again.


Oh, so thats why nearly every single next gen game for PC displays a nice big "Nvidia, the Way It's Meant To be Played" on startup.

Dam those dev studios, not knowing what they're on about. Don't they know that Ati has betur gragfix??
Actually, no. It's because nVidia pays them money to put that up. It's called advertising.

[Pooky]

Also, people need to get off the "I hate Intel" bandwagon. It's about business, guys. They offer better products at better prices, and have far better range, in both product and price. It's not about which guys are the nicer and more deserving guys. "Nice guys who aren't an evil monopolizing corporation" isn't a valid excuse for being sold shittier products at shittier prices. Die in acid please.

Because my reasons couldn't possibly be far better support from AMD, keeping competition fierce by not letting Intel gain a monopoly then flood the market with shitty overpriced products, and disgust with Intel's annoying advertising? I can't watch TV for 5 minutes without seeing at least 3 Intel ads, I don't recall ever seeing an AMD ad.

[Xetsuei]

Not the current gen cards... An 8800 Ultra rapes anything that AMD/ATI can put out currently

Yeah, in performance but not image quality. Stupid.

[legionaire45]

To answer the thread question, go Penryn.

As for the ATI v. Nvidia pissing match, I like Nvidia because none of their cards have failed on me after less then a year :downs:.

I honestly dont care who the manufacturer is, I go for the best bang for buck that I can afford. At the moment Nvidia and Intel are kicking the shit out of AMD (AMD had 2 years to implement something while they had the lead with K8, so I'm not feeling very sorry for them at the moment, meanwhile ATI is generally late to the party and not very sober to begin with if you get what I mean).

Nvidia's drivers suck and their paper launches are very annoying, but hey, I can't afford SLI anyway and the cards are either replaced by something better within 6 months (or in the case of the G92 stuff, less then a month xD) or eventually can be purchased. If I had lots of money to burn I might go with a HD3870 Quad-Crossfire setup but I don't have that much money (especially since I would need both a new PSU and motherboard plus the cards).

Penryn is win, end of story. Phenom screams of late epic fail. Epilogued.

[4RT1LL3RY]

AMD's quad core will be alot cheaper then the new Intel one, because non-"Extreme" processors in 45 nm won't be out till next year. Plus AMD will require one less motherboard upgrade, unlike the new Intel Quad. I personally hope that AMD takes the lead and Intel and them end of having a price war, where all consumers win.
I do want a quad core though, but this 3.0GHz E6550 will do for now.
The both are supposed to over clock really well though, but Intel has the upper hand right now with 45nm compared to 65nm. Plus Intel's new manufacturing process makes the processors much more efficient in power and heat.

[DaneO'Roo]

To answer the thread question, go Penryn.

As for the ATI v. Nvidia pissing match, I like Nvidia because none of their cards have failed on me after less then a year :downs:.

I honestly dont care who the manufacturer is, I go for the best bang for buck that I can afford. At the moment Nvidia and Intel are kicking the shit out of AMD (AMD had 2 years to implement something while they had the lead with K8, so I'm not feeling very sorry for them at the moment, meanwhile ATI is generally late to the party and not very sober to begin with if you get what I mean).

Nvidia's drivers suck and their paper launches are very annoying, but hey, I can't afford SLI anyway and the cards are either replaced by something better within 6 months (or in the case of the G92 stuff, less then a month xD) or eventually can be purchased. If I had lots of money to burn I might go with a HD3870 Quad-Crossfire setup but I don't have that much money (especially since I would need both a new PSU and motherboard plus the cards).

Penryn is win, end of story. Phenom screams of late epic fail. Epilogued.

iawtp

[Roostervier]

Because my reasons couldn't possibly be far better support from AMD, keeping competition fierce by not letting Intel gain a monopoly then flood the market with shitty overpriced products, and disgust with Intel's annoying advertising? I can't watch TV for 5 minutes without seeing at least 3 Intel ads, I don't recall ever seeing an AMD ad.All that says to me is that AMD is stupid... <_<

Also, Penryn. :-3

[alby]

Oh, so thats why nearly every single next gen game for PC displays a nice big "Nvidia, the Way It's Meant To be Played" on startup.

Dam those dev studios, not knowing what they're on about. Don't they know that Ati has betur gragfix??


Lol... You're smart. It seems like you think I'm against Nvidia, but me being an owner of the 8800 GTX I know for a fact that ATI has better image quality.

[Xetsuei]

Oh, so thats why nearly every single next gen game for PC displays a nice big "Nvidia, the Way It's Meant To be Played" on startup.

Dam those dev studios, not knowing what they're on about. Don't they know that Ati has betur gragfix??

Have you not heard of advertising?