Crazy weapon idea... Combo Plasma Pistol

[t3h m00kz]

So I've been playing Unreal Touranment quite a bit lately and I got a really crazy idea from it.

There's a weapon in the series dubbed the UMSD Shock Rifle, and it has two firing modes. One being an instant-connect, slow rate of fire rifle shot, another being a slow-moving ball of energy that does more damage. Now, with this weapon, if you hit the secondary fire's projectile with the primary fire's, it creates a huge explosion that does a really huge ammount of damage.

Here's a video of what I'm talking about.

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Now I was wondering if it's possible to mod a plasma pistol to have a beam rifle/covanent carbine-esque primary fire, leave the charge roughly the same (With no tracking or distance fade), and create a fuel rod-style explosion with it (with more damage of course.) Basically, it's two projectiles coliding and creating an explosion.

Now I've thought about it and it seems like it wouldn't sync online, but then I remembered the way CMT did their shotgun. The projectiles came out server-side. If that could be done for this weapon it'd probably sync really well.

EDIT: PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE!

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[Rob Oplawar]

Can projectiles collide in Halo 1? I've seen evidence that they do in halo 3, but I'm not so sure about in Halo 1. Also I don't think projectiles can have health, so they can't be destroyed. But if you can find a way it let me know- I might borrow your method to set up grenades to explode when you shoot them.

[Sel]

I luv that gun, I was thinking about making it, but then I never did for fear of the tagging not working out :(

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Can projectiles collide in Halo 1? I've seen evidence that they do in halo 3, but I'm not so sure about in Halo 1. Also I don't think projectiles can have health, so they can't be destroyed. But if you can find a way it let me know- I might borrow your method to set up grenades to explode when you shoot them.

Yes, they can. Kirby (from halomaps) has demonstrated so.

[t3h m00kz]

Really? Link?

[jngrow]

Holy shit that guy is good. Or maybe not. I dunno much about UT.

[t3h m00kz]

TRUST ME. HE'S GOOD.

Considering I've been playing the game on and off since it came out and I can barely hit a core going across the screen, yeah, he's good.

[_TheArbiter_]

yeah it can be done.....he even gave me some collisions for some projectiles...............just add health to em with a collision as it were a biped or anything else

[JinTechk]

looks nice, but wouldn't it be kinda hard to make (not the modeling i'm talking about here) and would it sync online?

[t3h m00kz]

yeah it can be done.....he even gave me some collisions for some projectiles...............just add health to em with a collision as it were a biped or anything else

Awesome :D I'm taking up a little modding again so I'll try to figure out how to do this. ;) It may not look so great because I'm no custom modler or anything though :(



looks nice, but wouldn't it be kinda hard to make (not the modeling i'm talking about here) and would it sync online?

That's a good question, but I do believe it would be possible.

In the projectile properties in Geurilla, there's an option for "Projectiles come out client-side only." I believe if this were turned off the projectiles would come out server-side, much like in UT, and it would make it possible, and easier to learn how to lead with. However I've had nobody to test this out with :( But I'm pretty sure it'll work; I'm 99.9% sure the CMT shotgun had server-side projectiles enabled through this option.

[Pooky]

However I've had nobody to test this out with

I'd test it out with you D:

[t3h m00kz]

yeah it can be done.....he even gave me some collisions for some projectiles...............just add health to em with a collision as it were a biped or anything else

Managed to do that. Gave it health and a modified Invisibility collision model and an explosion effect when the collision model's health is destroyted. What I haven't managed to do is get it to explode when it's shot... or even dissapear. :p


I'd test it out with you D:

I'll keep that in mind, once I get it into a playable-enough state I'll send you a copy, son.

[Pooky]

son.

idgi

[t3h m00kz]

Probably for the best

:(

edit: I FREAKING DID IT. I made a combo with primary and alternate fires, now I need to tweak some graphics around so it doesn't look completely butt-ugly :D Thanks to everyone who helped me here and there, it means alot ;) If anybody wants, I'll pass out a few levels with this and other weapons including a flak cannon, needle bolt rifle, and a tank-shottie for the lulz.

[p0lar_bear]

Video or gtfo.

:v

[Archon23]

Pass out the levels. For lulz and testing.

:v

[Syuusuke]

That would look fun in Halo.

:v

[t3h m00kz]

Video or gtfo.

:v

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Also I'm tagging this on the front page :V

[odseraphim]

Great job. Now to see some weapon models to fit your effects!

[t3h m00kz]

Great job. Now to see some weapon models to fit your effects!

Pffft, ain't gonna happen anytime soon, I don't think. I don't know the first thing about that kind of stuff. :(

I may take the time to learn more about it next weekend... probably post an update then.

[Bastinka]

Hey I remember Muki Hyena, hes the guy that looked like my father! No joke.

I'd be glad to help out/test if needed! :)
So far it looks pretty good to me, although halo will never be as good as unreal.. you never know how close you can get to the real thing ;)


I'm an OK modeler, if you want some help I can gladly lend a hand this weekend. Contact me Via AIM. (radiogerman1011)