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Sel
March 6th, 2008, 06:33 AM
Well the gallery thread is locked, so the stuff I posted there yesterday is gone :|

So Ill repost it here :o

Here is the video Killa took during beta testing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVI-zwC7IKI

And latest early pictures are here.


http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/bluebase.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/bluetop.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/out.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/redbase.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/redbaseout.jpg


There a some lighting, UV, and smoothing errors here and there, and Im working to fix them.

If you still need an overhead view of the level, if the video wasnt enough to show you what it is like, just post it here and Ill go get one.

I also used some of sunny's amazing bloom things, on the lights. :3

EDIT: New video.

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/?action=view&current=competence.flv

Sever
March 6th, 2008, 07:57 AM
The two doorways on the parallel outcroppings (coming out towards you in the first pic) need to have a small gap above them, before the wall gives way to the angled-off top. Forerunner architecture does not use many instances of acute angles. Other than that, it appears to be a quality level. Definitely nothing special, but I'd say its about on par with Arteen's middle works (which is a very good place to be).

Sel
March 6th, 2008, 09:35 AM
Im thinking about putting frames like on the tunnels in sidewinder, around the exits, but I cant really do that until Geo is finished fixing things up on the cliffs and ground.

So I guess its all sapien work for me until its done :3

ILEGALLcheatsMAN
March 6th, 2008, 09:58 AM
I see some intresting gameplay in this. could be the best map I seen released in a two to three months.

Martini-562
March 6th, 2008, 10:14 AM
looks nice

ILEGALLcheatsMAN
March 6th, 2008, 10:21 AM
I <3 the lights, the map needs some bump mapping in the interior if already not done

Con
March 6th, 2008, 10:22 AM
Sweet, looks like a lot of fun to play

beele
March 6th, 2008, 10:49 AM
looking good :)

bobbysoon
March 6th, 2008, 12:31 PM
Animated lights!? It's ... it's ... :iia:

Sel
March 6th, 2008, 02:58 PM
Actually, I changed it to night to practice lighting, Im the next sunny (not) lulz, but dynamic landing beacons at night look really damn good with a high radius.

Im re lightmapping for a daytime one, to see how they would look there, and then I can decide which time of day my map would look best on :3

Also polar/ghost/jcap/any other mod or admin.

I C WUT U DID 2 THURR TOPIC! :v

Choking Victim
March 6th, 2008, 04:54 PM
What's the quote in your sig from selentic? When has zteam ever claimed anything as our own, when have we ever advised anyone not to rip? Tell me, are you spreading lies for attention, or just to start something?

CtrlAltDestroy
March 6th, 2008, 04:56 PM
It's not his quote, don't start.

Map looks nice. /obligatory ot

Choking Victim
March 6th, 2008, 04:56 PM
wasn't starting anything, only asking.

EDIT: nvm, its darkzealot's apparently. If you wanna quote a fool that's lied to the community on multiple occasions (hacked sapien), be my guest.

Sel
March 6th, 2008, 06:04 PM
It's not his quote, don't start.

Map looks nice. /obligatory ot

Thanks :)


wasn't starting anything, only asking.

EDIT: nvm, its darkzealot's apparently. If you wanna quote a fool that's lied to the community on multiple occasions (hacked sapien), be my guest.

Yeah, who says halomaps doesnt have dramas :3

Mass
March 6th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Those cliffs make me want to cry, have I taught you nothing.

It's funny because the map itself proves I have, but yeah, should I dig up that thread/vid on cliff modeling?

Sel
March 7th, 2008, 06:35 AM
Those cliffs make me want to cry, have I taught you nothing.

It's funny because the map itself proves I have, but yeah, should I dig up that thread/vid on cliff modeling?

You have, dont worry, Im told my cliffs and terrain are average, and for someone who hasnt done real cliffs almost ever before, without using displace, Id hope this is an improvement for me :o, but yeah, I got a new computer and if you could find that tut in your filefront it would make me love you more :3

Pyong Kawaguchi
March 7th, 2008, 08:24 AM
Hey, Selentic, Would you mind me looking at royalty free textures for this map?

I may find some you will like.
Also, need moar pics with surreal filter >:O

Sel
March 7th, 2008, 08:40 AM
Geo is working on a ground texture for this, and so far it looks :D

So Ill probably go with that.

Geo
March 7th, 2008, 09:18 AM
Completely redoing those cliffs for you.:) I am also currently working on a cliff texture for the map, cause the dangercanyon cliff texture is overused. And selentic you better put Ki11a's AR with my skin in there :D.

ILEGALLcheatsMAN
March 7th, 2008, 01:53 PM
That would be a 'Win' map.

I can't wait to see how the gameplay works out

Ki11a_FTW
March 7th, 2008, 05:26 PM
new video and it is now a nighttime map!

filfront: http://files.filefront.com/Compgameplay1wmv/;9774044;/fileinfo.html
youtube (shitty res): http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=rahTP-uGr_0&rel=1&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//s3.ytimg.com/vi/rahTP-uGr_0/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskLsoMzQQKVSBBxPIC4HbPwJ

(http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=rahTP-uGr_0&rel=1&eurl=&iurl=http&#37;3A//s3.ytimg.com/vi/rahTP-uGr_0/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskLsoMzQQKVSBBxPIC4HbPwJ) ar by me, bruteshot model from halo 2, tagged and animated by me, the rest is by selentic

Sel
March 7th, 2008, 05:30 PM
I guess it really helps even it out for when you have several players, and allows for intense 1 on 1 thingys.

So how you guys like the dynamic lights :D

Higuy
March 7th, 2008, 07:26 PM
There only auesome and 1337.

Sel
March 7th, 2008, 08:36 PM
Heres the photobucket link, it looks more high quality to me, so Ill post it.

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/?action=view&current=Compgameplay1.flv

Sel
March 10th, 2008, 08:23 PM
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/?action=view&current=competence.flv

New video, its almost done, just a few terrain errors, and UV errors to fix.

Thanks to sunny for the cave shader, which I de lagged.

I got the sky from Prime, so Ill assume jahrain made it. Its :awesome: so yeah :3

I tried fixing up the cliffs, and I learned how to use soft selection so hopefully theyre better now :D

Ki11a_FTW
March 10th, 2008, 08:27 PM
:v was fun testing it

Sever
March 10th, 2008, 08:27 PM
Well, we have no heads... or legs... but we do have an interesting map!

Jay2645
March 10th, 2008, 08:27 PM
If it wasn't for Lone Wolf's little devmode, that would have been a fun game.

A little testing of my own in my devmode-free LAN server revealed some... flaws I'll have to fix in my re-population.

LinkandKvel
March 10th, 2008, 08:30 PM
I say needs more animated northern lights skybox. Would fit perfectly with this level imo.

Sel
March 10th, 2008, 08:35 PM
If it wasn't for Lone Wolf's little devmode, that would have been a fun game.

A little testing of my own in my devmode-free LAN server revealed some... flaws I'll have to fix in my re-population.

Well you didnt show up to the actual game we played before so..... :|

Pyong Kawaguchi
March 11th, 2008, 07:52 AM
twas fun beta'ing this yesterday, :)

Sever
March 11th, 2008, 08:01 AM
I want to extend the story out some more by adding a Covenant crash site, but I really don't want to kill people's computers with a scenery overload.KILL THE COMPUTERS! KILL THE COMPUTERS! Seriously, you'll regret it later. Add the second crash site. It'll be worth it.

Pyong Kawaguchi
March 11th, 2008, 08:11 AM
It Would be cool with a covie crash site :O

I hope silentic open sources his bsp, Cuz i wanna mess around in it and try certain stuff on a cool map for once, not the dumb tutorial (forsees a ut3 version of this by muki :O)

Sel
March 11th, 2008, 10:47 AM
Why is there a pelican in there :|

I think well cut out the pelican and all that other shit.

I kinda wanted to go with a classic version, that felt like a normal bungie level, not with all this additional stuff :\

LlamaMaster
March 11th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Jay, what the fuck do you think your doing adding all that shit to the map? Lolpelican, lolghost/warthog. The hell? You butchered the thing. The map just awesome the way it was, and you had to come in and noob it up. Rocket launcher? Ugh...

Also, this is selentics map, not whatever you put...

Ki11a_FTW
March 11th, 2008, 01:02 PM
:gonk: Jay you ruined it

Sel
March 11th, 2008, 01:57 PM
Yeah, this isnt really a sigma project, since no one other than me and geo really did anything :\

And eleven of course with the textures.

Ki11a_FTW
March 11th, 2008, 02:00 PM
hey i did something but you removed it :mad:

Sel
March 11th, 2008, 02:35 PM
hey i did something but you removed it :mad:

Yeah but we love you :3

Also, does anyone know how Jahrain did dynamic lightning in prime?

I loved those effects and I cant seem to figure it out :\

Pyong Kawaguchi
March 11th, 2008, 05:54 PM
and me and my awsome ability to beta test :p

ItsMeTerror
March 11th, 2008, 06:42 PM
It's decent but it would be 10x better if halo's engine didn't suck so much especially on the graphics end.

Sel
March 11th, 2008, 06:46 PM
It's decent but it would be 10x better if halo's engine didn't suck so much especially on the graphics end.

True, but not much I can do about it.

Other than use sunnys shaders and make it awesome :o

Also, cmon guys, one of you has to know how to do the dynamic lightning effect from prime T3 D:

EDIT: I was high :mysterysolved:

adumass
March 11th, 2008, 09:28 PM
Last time I played this it was dark and kinda hard to see, hope you guys make it brighter. The map seems too small for vehicles besides turrets. Also if your gonna have plant scenery try detail objects or get some more plants.

Sel
March 11th, 2008, 09:48 PM
Jay, if you look very carefully, there is a humongous cloud between the firing path of the turret to the opposing base, making it damn near impossible to get even one hit even spraying the whole base with it, nor can you hit the base its side is on the walls are too high.

No one throughout the whole beta testing sessions we have had has gotten a kill with it :\

Sel
March 11th, 2008, 09:57 PM
I took out the other vehicle then.

Now we're back down to one turret.

And, as much as I like it, if you don't want it, then I'll take out the Pelican site.

Dont worry, I repopulated the level from the old scenario. Its only one shotgun per base, and perfectly balanced.

Also Update.

Thanks to killa we finished the BSP, and it will most likely be uploaded to halomaps tonight, or tommorow.

Sel
March 12th, 2008, 08:58 AM
Uploaded to halomaps, the map is now called sympathy, thanks to Kidd uploading a bullshit mod of something or other to halomaps using the same name, in a sad attempt to discredit me :|

Also, locked.