Degenerate Triangle Errors - No where near actual Geometry

[MetKiller Joe]

I'm getting some weird errors. I've tried searching the forums, and I frankly can't find any answers; so, I come to ask for help.

The first strange thing appears in tool. It tells me I have surfaces that are coplanar and some that are colliding (z buffered), but I checked back in 3DS max (running v9.0 in Vista x64 w/Blue Streak) and these errors are nowhere near any geometry; while some of the are in the skybox, those appear to be floating in mid air. I've tried to select whatever faces/edges/vertices there might be, but again, nothing.

The level compiles, though, and when I tried to run radiosity in Sapien or Tool, they give me these mid-air errors again. Any suggestions? I will keep trying to find whatever in the level might be causing this, but since the errors are nowhere near geometry, I'm guessing and checking.

Thanks.

P.S. I did consider that Blue Streak is doing something funky since it is 3DS Max 9 and this is Vista, but I've seen others make it work (or at least thought I did).

[Ki11a_FTW]

when you go to import the wrl file, make sure that you uncheck everything in that little prompt that shows up when you press import

[MetKiller Joe]

Thank you. That worked.

[kid908]

degenerated triangles shouldn't affect anything =\ but anyway did you get teh map fixed?

[MetKiller Joe]

Almost. I'm still getting degenerate triangle errors from Sapien (and quite frustratingly, everytime I correct one, literally 3000 more pop up).

I'm guessing this is just my sloppiness in not correcting the errors tool is giving me (co-planars and interesects), which I will correct shortly.

Thanks for asking.

Edit: Don't feel like double posting, but for future search references; keywords: sapien degenerate triangles blue

The textures looked skewed (not UVed properly) and I guess the engine can detect that.

[MetKiller Joe]

I don't want to create another thread, but I do have another problem. I have, again, searched high and low for the answer.

Now, to the point. Whenever I run radiosity in Sapien now (radiosity_quality 0; radiosity_start; radiosity_save), Sapien gives produces a ground that is completely white. I know I am at fault somewhere, but I've checked my shader, my texture, and the texture's application within 3DS Max at least ten times. I'm out of ideas.

Any help is appreciated.

*To the moderators: sincerely sorry for double posting, but it was this, or create another thread.

[kid908]

go into 3dsm and go to material editor. delect all the material and remake them. that should usually work.

[MetKiller Joe]

I tried that, recompiled the map, and ran at 1 and 0 quality radiosity, but nothing changed.

[Tweek]

here's a little trick.

select your map-mesh, convert to editable mesh, go into vetex mode, hit ctrl-A, and weld all your velts with a value of 0.01 or so.

it often fix alot of duplicate verts that end up causing degenerate triangles.

[MetKiller Joe]

Edit: Fixed.

UVW map was planar and near the top (something was wrong with it). Also, numerous other things concerning the sky walls and ceiling (hidden degenerates and open spaces).