[WIP] Audi TT

[nick3d]

Now that I have left school i currently have loads of spare time to da absolute anything i want so at th moment ive been playing around on maya learning the basics :D i think that i have progressed alot in 2 months.
this is my third car which i am doing there isnt much to it but there is enough to start the thread off :D i am also going to upload my first car and that will show you how much i have progressed in the last month or two.
this is my very first car\/\/\/\/\/\/\/(crap isnt it)
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/mitsubishi.jpg
this is my 2nd car i gave up because of default which you can see in the picture
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/ferraripic.jpg
this is the setup for audi TT
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/setu.jpg
and this is the progress
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/audi1.jpg
Update on pics (my dad turned internet off last night so played around with it a bit more :D)
For some reason i keep on getting creases, really annoying creases.
these are further updates of the audi
front view
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/audi2front.jpg
front perspective
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/audi2persp.jpg
rear perspective
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/audi2rear.jpg
And top view
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/audi2top.jpg

And this is another update

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/wire2-2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/wire2-1.jpg

please comment :D

[nick3d]

Which Alloy Do You Prefere?
A
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/alloyA.jpg
B
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/alloyB.jpg

Please leave your answer in a quote :D

[Snowy]

better than my first car

[nick3d]

thanks :D which 1 lol 1st 2nd or 3rd :L

[killer9856]

Nice job


Can we get some DUB's on it?! :lol:

honestly though I like A

[kenney001]

What are you using to make it? It almost looks like nurbs because of the folding around detailed areas...

I know you are no-where near finished, but it needs some work around the tail-lights.

1000x better than the others.

[nick3d]

kenney001:
i am using polygons and yes i no bout the rear light im gonna sort that out next but im concentrating on the front wheel arch
And alson using autodesk maya if anyone would like to know

killer9856:
Whats DUB's (im new to modeling *ish anyways lol*)
I like A aswell but its got way to many verts with the extra logos but ill see what i can do and lower the vert count

[killer9856]

Its a magazine of hawt rides.

http://www.dubpages.com/

Lots of good stuff in it

Well here is a nice 20" Alloy

Hope it helps out

http://www.paylesstyres.com/content/products/TrumpCar.jpg

[nick3d]

thanks i prefer my audi alloys :P

[nick3d]

and plus they will take ages to do because of the bolts around the inner edge

[killer9856]

lol yeah.


You know what, I should try and model that alloy...

[Con]

and plus they will take ages to do because of the bolts around the inner edge
http://www.ruinz.net/images/lex-luthor-wrong.jpg

[nick3d]

yeah lol and send it me :D for my audi :D if ya want lol

because to be honest i dont think iv got the patience to do another alloy lol

or unless we have a little competion :p lol would be ace, infact forget about that :lol: im to busy on my audi lol

[nick3d]

Probably not for you but im newish to modeling and that looks like a task and half

[Con]

If you can put 6 Audi logos around your rim then you can put those bolts around that edge.

[nick3d]

alls i did was get my logo from the front and make it smaller then rotated it on and then just dotted them into place

edit: and then combined them all

[rossmum]

It's the exact same process with the bolts...?

[Con]

No, that would make too much sense Ross.

[nick3d]

well ill have a go another time at the moment im trying to solve these stupid problems on this thing lol ive just got the front wheel arch more tidy because it was horrible lol and plus its more round now

[nick3d]

ive lowered the verts on my alloy wheel and it is still 1 3rd of the total amount of verts :S whys that. Its really confused me lol. and good job this isnt going in a game or anything because the poly count is REALLY high and i mean high high its around 147,000 verts when smoothed and i think thats all i can do unless i take the smoothness down a bit

[nick3d]

Right this is my tidy up of the front wheel arch

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/auditidyup.jpg

[Hunter]

Nick. Its looks good. But STOP double posting.

[nick3d]

I have cleaned up my rear lights as you can see
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/audi4-2.jpg
and i am currently working on the front needs to be cleaned up a little bit
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/audi4-1.jpg

[Hunter]

How are you smoothing it? MeshSmooth?

[nick3d]

no i am just using the smoothing tool when i press 2 or 3 on my keyboard it automatically smoothes it for me so i can see what it'll look like when smoothed unfortunately the last 2 images are going have to be dismissed because my computer crashed whilst finishing off :(

[Hunter]

Well. Don't. Its smoothing things that aint men't to be smoothed. Use smoothing groups.

[Reaper Man]

Well. Don't. Its smoothing things that aint men't to be smoothed. Use smoothing groups.
He's using NURBS surfaces. In maya, 1, 2 and 3 represent the level of smoothing you can preview a NURBS surface at.

[nick3d]

Martyn! You model your way and i'll model mine okay i feel comfortable when modeling like how i am so leave me to it okay!

Edit: Everyone else thinks it looks alright and yeah the bottom half of my bumper doesn't look right thats because I haven't finished it yet.

Edit: And plus when i do guns i don't smooth because it is mostly flat so no need but because im doing a car, if i didn't smooth then things won't look right.

Edit: And i don't even know how to do smoothing groups, or no what they are, don't forget im new to modeling

[Zeph]

Stop double posting.

[nick3d]

I have dont worry :D

[Tweek]

Martyn! You model your way and i'll model mine okay i feel comfortable when modeling like how i am so leave me to it okay!

Edit: Everyone else thinks it looks alright and yeah the bottom half of my bumper doesn't look right thats because I haven't finished it yet.

Edit: And plus when i do guns i don't smooth because it is mostly flat so no need but because im doing a car, if i didn't smooth then things won't look right.

Edit: And i don't even know how to do smoothing groups, or no what they are, don't forget im new to modeling

you'll have to excuse thar hunterfag, he's a bit of the town retard around here,

it's a decent model, with it's goods and bads, there's some parts that aren't curvature continous when they should be, and there's some parts that could use some extra control verts to get those hard(er) edges more pronounced.

i don't know why you're doing the headlights the way you are, but if i were you, which im not, i'd just make the headlight covers seperate surfaces, so you can manipulate is easier, and you don't have to worry about breking continuity on the rest of your car when changing it around. plus, headlights aren't inset like that :P

your curves in general could be smoother, and more continuous, they're a bit "bumpy" so to speak.

i think you're not very experienced in NURBS, because you don't seem to know how to make harder edges, taking your rims as an example.
you can add in a CV, and move it on top of an existing CV, do this on both sides of "the existing CV", and you've got yourself a hard edge. i have to admit i forgot the keys and commands to maya nurbs, so forgive me for not going into more detail.

tl;dr: looks good, needs work, curves need to be smoother, and learn 2 hard edge, and hunter needs to shut his 8-year old mouth.

[nick3d]

Well considering that I have only been modeling for a couple of months its a half decent model lol.

My biggest problem is, is that I don't no when to start a new plane, you see the whole model except for the wheel (ofcourse silly) is 1 plane so really I should do each panel seperate instead of putting a little indent between them.

To be honest I don't no what your on about when you say "CV" lol but i'll look it up on the internet in a bit because at the moment I haven't got my model open.

Do you think I should start agen??

Ohh and I was wondering if someone (with plenty of experience) could do me a favour it only involves saving a picture and then colouring in different colours for each new plane I should start, the blueprint will be at the bottom.

And hunter he's a mate of mine from school he was the one who recomended me to this site in the first place (but he constantly moans at me lol because I don't really know that much about modeling)

And I think this is 1 of the things he cant do, which i can do, modeling a car from what i know off. I'm not sure lol

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/audi-tt2.gif

Edit: Update on pics
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/5-1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/5-2.jpg

[Tweek]

a good guideline you could follow for seperate surfaces, it to look at the car's panels. make each panel a seperate surface

you can make a far larger surface like you're doing now to get good surface continuity, and cut it up, i dont remeber the term maya used for it.

where one body panel ends, you should end your surface, and curve it in with a sharp-ish edge, so you can see the seams between the panels, and not have them just be a gap at the same time.

with CV's i mean control vertices, they're the points your NURBS curves flow around.
oh, and go find a new friend, round 'dese parts ye don' want ta be associated with that fella'

[nick3d]

Well I think I might start again because the bonnet has got far to many faces which don't need to be there they are there because of the whole thing being a continuos plane so when i need extra edges i put a edge loop in which has been making them creases every where because i use them to sharpen up my edges.

I'v learnt what i have off a website called 3dbuzz and used 1 of there tutorials (star wars phaser) http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/sv_home.php?v=0
But the forums on there are crap they never get back to you and look at what you have done and they dont help you out that much.
im quiet glad im "still" a member of this because i get some decent help of people and honest opinions which i quiet like :D thanks guys

[Hunter]

you'll have to excuse thar hunterfag, he's a bit of the town retard around here,

it's a decent model, with it's goods and bads, there's some parts that aren't curvature continous when they should be, and there's some parts that could use some extra control verts to get those hard(er) edges more pronounced.

i don't know why you're doing the headlights the way you are, but if i were you, which im not, i'd just make the headlight covers seperate surfaces, so you can manipulate is easier, and you don't have to worry about breking continuity on the rest of your car when changing it around. plus, headlights aren't inset like that :P

your curves in general could be smoother, and more continuous, they're a bit "bumpy" so to speak.

i think you're not very experienced in NURBS, because you don't seem to know how to make harder edges, taking your rims as an example.
you can add in a CV, and move it on top of an existing CV, do this on both sides of "the existing CV", and you've got yourself a hard edge. i have to admit i forgot the keys and commands to maya nurbs, so forgive me for not going into more detail.

tl;dr: looks good, needs work, curves need to be smoother, and learn 2 hard edge, and hunter needs to shut his 8-year old mouth.

Also Nick, you might wanna watch this tweekprick. He's a good modeller and everything, but he is a bit of a prick. Hold on, let me change that, he is a BIG prick.

He also does not know how old I am so he should stop right there before he makes a fool of him self.

I also know Nick from school, I am the person who introduced him to modelling. That is the reason I talk to him like that, Tweek. The problem with you is.. well....
1. Your a dick.
2. You treat a lot of people like shit.
3. You know fuck all about me, so you can't really call me 8...
4. Plenty more I could think of but i really Can't be arsed with dicks like you.

In other words Tweek. Do one, and learn something about the people you are insulting for no valid reason...

[Tweek]

can't be arsed taking note of posts by mentally incapacitated mongloids like you.
keep in mind i'm superior to you in every single way, don't forget it.
i point you to my sig as proof of these concepts.

also, i'm only a prick towards people who have deserved such treatment, most commonly due to mental incapability, general retardedness, hippocricy, and 8-year old-ism. i dont treat alot of people like shit, i treat YOU like shit, because that's what you are, and nothing more.

tl;dr: shut your mouth child!
you said "I", "arse" and "dick" in one line.

[rossmum]

Shut your fucking mouths you fucking whining cunts.

Both of you.

inb4warn4backseatmoderation

[Patrickssj6]

Shut your fucking mouths you fucking whining cunts.

Both of you.

inb4warn4backseatmoderation

let's both drive in the back seat of the mod-mobile-car!

[Timo]

Time to get back on-topic.

[Kalub]

TWEEK!


<3


http://www.musogato.com/avatar/merchandise/plush_momo.jpg



I has momo for you!


e: w2g timo.... you banned him, now how will he know of my deep burning passion for his words :(

[nick3d]

Haha okay enough argueing lol i avnt been on this thread for a couple of hours and theres a big arguement on here, to be honest im not takin no ones side. I just like to get on with every one.
i shall be doing a new update later when i get the time.
im starting it agen so i can get rid of all them dodgy creases so there wont be much to it lol.

[Hunter]

"I also know Nick from school, I am the person who introduced him to modelling."

If I wanted to be a good artist, I'd totally end that relationship right now Nick.

What is that ment to mean?

And keep working on it Nick.

[nick3d]

I'm starting it again do the panels seperate:D

[Hunter]

Btw, Nick. Let's do what Dane suggested and not be mates, as people may complain. I ain't being childish in saying this either for those who think I am.

I am doing what you all say to do, Take peoples advice.

[nick3d]

I onli take proper advice which will help me out in 3d modeling, you help me out some of the time because you told me 2 start plane modeling and you taught me how to do it. So i listen to the advice i find will help me which doesnt mean not listening to you because ill listen to everyone and ill decide then but the only thing you keep on at me about is

Well. Don't. Its smoothing things that aint men't to be smoothed. Use smoothing groups.

about my smoothing

[legionaire45]

My advice: Work on your spelling and grammar.

The car looks decent I guess. I've never modeling one so I can't say much else about it. It has some smoothing issues and some of the symmetry looks weird (the little insets at the seam) but other then that nothing else looks remarkable.

Listen to Tweek's modeling advice, he knows what he is talking about.

[Con]

less trolling moar advice

[nick3d]

Thanks guys well im going to start again because I have just come home from holiday.

EDIT 1:

This is my 1st lot of picture which have been uploaded.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/new1.jpg
I have made it so I can open up the bonnet. :D
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/new2.jpg




EDIT 2:
I don't think that looks very good to be honest so I dont no, I might have another attempt.

EDIT 3:
Or I might even carry on with my 1st 1.

EDIT 4:
This is my 1st Audi TT without it being smoothed for reasons of

|SINERGY|
I'd have to agree on the Audi looking better, that thread isn't really all that helpful since he's using NURBS and is in Maya. I use Max and polygon modelling oh and the like 3/4 of that thread is flaming and trolling lol.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/6-1.jpg

[nick3d]

Well lets get this thread up and running again.
Hopefully iv learnt quite alot since the last Audi TT

E: Tri's is 1432, compared to the other 1 that nothing am i correct lol

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT4.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT5.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT6.jpg

[Hunter]

Looks nice, are you making this for rendering purposes or in-game?

If rendering dont worry about it being high poly.

And I never know what car is was until now, I love this car, just remembered what car it is now because of the shapes of the lights Lol.

[nick3d]

its not for anything really its just practice,
I might end up making the interior once the exterior has been done

[Joshflighter]

Very nice so far. :)

[nick3d]

Hows this looking guys?

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT7.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT10.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT8.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT9.jpg


Last message deleted because of I needed a *bump* without double posting, and last post wasnt important really

[Joshflighter]

Right above the front tire, the main frame has a edge that looks really sharp. Maybe some chamfering will do it some good? :o

[nick3d]

Could you show me where your on about?

[Joshflighter]

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn159/Joshflighter/2547626392_98285824d5gfhf.jpg

[nick3d]

its meant look like that, im tryin makin low poly, ill shift some things around to make it less of a point though.

E:
hows that?
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT11.jpg

[Joshflighter]

Less noticeable. Better. :P

[nick3d]

So hows it look now, i havent done much but i saw an Audi TT today and saw that it has a grid like front not a lined 1

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT12.jpg

[Joshflighter]

Wow, that looks nice. :)

[nick3d]

Now hows it lookin, finally got the roof on :P, just need do the window and the rear end
E:
and ofcourse the wheels
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT13.jpg

[Hunter]

Looks cool.

[nick3d]

Bigger Update :P
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT15.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/AudiTT14.jpg
E:44588 tris

[Joshflighter]

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn159/Joshflighter/AudiTT15.jpg

I think I am just nit picking though. :|

[nick3d]

thanks ill check it out tomorrow
E:
Does anyone like my custom alloys or my custom spoiler :P

[Limited]

thanks ill check it out tomorrow
E:
Does anyone like my custom alloys or my custom spoiler :P
Extend the alloy spokes fully through the wheel, dont Just have them on the "cover" flush with the tyre.

[nick3d]

Alloys arent like that they do need be a bit deeper but all the way through, otherwise there will be no room for the brake calipers and discs

[nick3d]

*bump*
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Did some experimenting
And fount out how to do the contraints for the steering of a car, pretty cool i think :P

And its got the latest pics of the car at the start of the video