W.I.P Halo 3 Assault Rifle

[Hunter]

http://wmhunterwm.byethost22.com/images/AR5.jpeg

Grip needs more work and the back part has smoothing errors. And it needs a trigger...

6236 Triangles

[Disaster]

The back of it looks really bad. Looks like you didn't take your time on it. Redo that back part and take your time. The pollygon distribution is way off. Lots of pollies in the front and half as many in the back.

[Ifafudafi]

Broken image link is broken?

[Hunter]

It should be working now.

[sdavis117]

It still needs a barrel and a flashlight.

[Mass]

the AR is a bullpup, you need to make the back capable of holding a magazine convincingly

[Hunter]

It still needs a barrel and a flashlight.

Yeah, I will add them now.

Edit:
Update:
http://wmhunterwm.byethost22.com/images/AR6.jpeg

Grip sucks balls!

[Lateksi]

Hey, one Q. Why do you guys like Halo 3 so much? If this will be well done, it's cool but I would like to see some custom stuff to be honest :o

[Hunter]

Once I have the Halo 3 Weapons modelled I will make custom content.

[Bastinka]

Looks good, the grip needs to be thickened, more girth on that grip for the chief ;]

The grip is more of a beveled square then a cylinder from what I remember.

[SnaFuBAR]

foregrip is bad, trigger grip is bad, missing trigger group or any area convincing that there is one, transition from the trigger grip to the rest of the gun is TERRIBLE, pointless detail modeled into the trigger grip, and display is boring.

H3 models are common as dog shit, do something else.

E: disaster, why would you want to have equal poly distribution on an area out of view 99% of the time? His poly distribution at the back is fine, and the magazine well is clearly not finished. Stop posting modeling advice when you don't get it yourself.

[Hotrod]

Looks quite good, though there are a few parts that could be worked on. The bottom of the grip is too square-ish, and doesn't fit with the rest of the rifle. Besides that, and the lack of a clip (for now), it's a great model. Keep it up!

[Hunter]

I just put it in-game quickly to see what is looks like, and it looks pretty good.

Also I had no lag at all and my computer is crap. Sorry for the images being .png but I havnt got the time to convert them.

Also I used default Halo 1 animations just for testing.
Images:
http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/haloce-20080708-165301.jpg

Image 1 (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/haloce-20080708-164841.jpg)
Image 2 (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/haloce-20080708-164841a.jpg)
Image 3 (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/haloce-20080708-164842.jpg)
Image 4 (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/haloce-20080708-165301.jpg)
Image 5 (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/haloce-20080708-165302.jpg)
Image 6 (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/haloce-20080708-165613.jpg)
Image 7 (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/haloce-20080708-165645.jpg)

I have also changed the grip. So ignore the grip in those pictures. And I need to change the ammo meter a bit.

And the FP is setup crap and wrong because I need to use Halo 1 animations.

[Roostervier]

Pics won't load, just upload them to imageshack instead of byethost.

[Hotrod]

Pics are loading for me. It looks pretty good, even with the Halo 1 anims. I find that the ammo display is a little too wide at the bottom, and makes it look a little strange. Maybe you should look into that.

[Hunter]

Images kindly hosted by HaloGuru now.

[Roostervier]

Yeah, I can see the pictures now.

[Bad Waffle]

foregrip is bad, trigger grip is bad, missing trigger group or any area convincing that there is one, transition from the trigger grip to the rest of the gun is TERRIBLE, pointless detail modeled into the trigger grip, and display is boring.

H3 models are common as dog shit, do something else.

E: disaster, why would you want to have equal poly distribution on an area out of view 99% of the time? His poly distribution at the back is fine, and the magazine well is clearly not finished. Stop posting modeling advice when you don't get it yourself.

If you do what this good man says, than i would ask if i could use the rifle in HRH.

[Hunter]

Would you want me to texture it as well? Or would you get Dane to do that?

So basicly you want:

Less detail
Trigger Grip Remade
Foregrip sorting out (What exactly do you want me to do with that?)
Display needs to be made better


What else? Because I don't understand some of what Snaf said.

[DaaxGhost]

Looks really good. ;)

[Roostervier]

So yeah, do what snaf said, and then do this:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1341/moardeepzp8.jpg

It doesn't go in far enough.

[Hotrod]

So basicly you want:
Less detail.I don't think he said he wanted less detail, in fact, I think he'd want the detail to be high, since it's for HRH (High Resolution Halo), which has very high poly models.

[Bad Waffle]

Would you want me to texture it as well? Or would you get Dane to do that?

So basicly you want:
Less detail
Trigger Grip Remade
Foregrip sorting out (What exactly do you want me to do with that?)
Display needs to be made better
What else? Because I don't understand some of what Snaf said.


basically the grip should just be a really blocky kinda thing seeing as how its always going to be concealed. Just model a clip, and call it done. But, you do have to fix the grip in the first place.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3144/19751959si9.png
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/530/93485695hg2.png


i was just dooding with the circle things, do something like that.

[t3h m00kz]

Don't forget the hidden Marathon symbol omg :o

[Hunter]

That is on the butt of the weapon so I will leave that. Lol.

Im making those changes now WoL

[t3h m00kz]

Hunter, I'm uber impressed, must be flattering to have WOL want your models in game. Modeling is a bitch, huge learning curb, I don't think I'll ever take it up as something any more serious than a hobby. Props to you

[Hunter]

Lol. Thank-you. And yes, it is Flattering that WoL wants to use one of my models. Lol.

Edit:
http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/AR7.jpeg
http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/AR7_Wire.jpeg

[Bastinka]

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/530/93485695hg2.png


i was just dooding with the circle things, do something like that.
You forgot this fix hunter.

EDIT: Halo needs more AA :[

[Tweek]

hoooooly shit you got some shit going on there.

http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08284/fixshit297.jpg

if i were making a game, and you came to me with that, i'd ALMOST instantly fire your ass.

you've got WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much chamfers going on EVERYWHERE.

you can get the exact same level of detail with at least half the # of polygons without a doubt. get rid of the silly bevels on the side of the gun in the front as well. they're totally useless and only give you AA artifacts. and fix the unsmoothed stuff, most notably the grip. (and get rid of the billion chamfers on it too, at least on the front, because you dont see those anyway)

and honestly, you dont need to put fucking FIVE edges in a corner to make it smooth looking, that's just rediculous.

td;dr looks good, but in it's current state, it's unacceptable.

[Hunter]

I have chamfered "Once"

"1"

Also, what do you mean by AA?

And didn't he mean make the curve like "2." instead of "1."?
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/dsdsadsdsadasd.jpg

[Heathen]

AA = Anti-aliasing.
Meaning...keeps everything looking 360 instead of PS1
No jagged lines like there are now.

[Bastinka]

http://lexikon.martinvogel.de/aliasing-anti-aliasing.png
Thats an Example.

[Heathen]

Play a game with it and play it without. Its a definite eyesore.

I wish there were a way to force AA upon Halo like high school sex.

[Bad Waffle]

i like no AA in most of my games D:

Yea, i guess i forgot to mention the crazy chamfers. The very front won't need any for obvious reasons (its the farthest away), can we get a closeup of the foregrip area tweek circled?

Also, pull the foregrip foreward a bit for some room for the trigger, also get rid of the trigger, because following the halo canon its pressure activated.

[Bastinka]

High resolutions sorta get rid of that Aliased edge.

[sdavis117]

http://ktula.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/6169484-full.jpg
http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/campaign.jpg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ViznEXrgpAk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TR6tSnn62iM&feature=related <-- Quick Hi-Res AR scenes.

Just some AR references to compare to yours.

[Hunter]

This ok?
http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/Grip%2C%20Closeup.jpeg

Any chance someone could get me a close up of the bolt? So I can see its shape?

[Tweek]

fuck, that's worse than i thought >_<

now you can make the same thing with a QUARTER of that polycount.

edit:http://www.johndalessi.com/Paul/ut3/hurrr.jpg

http://www.johndalessi.com/paul/hurrr.jpg

[Bastinka]

Looks like Extrude Mania©, but like tweek ranted to me its not what you use, its what the end result looks like.

Fix some of the smoothing, theres some edges messed up too.

EDIT:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/SilentWindPL/fixedcloseup.jpg
Thats a picture of what I see.

Blue / Purple: Smoothing / fix the mesh a little.
Red Lines: How the polygons should be placed, or some bad edges that need a fix.
Red Circles: Parts of the mesh that need to be fixed up.
Red Squiggles: Parts of the mesh that need the extruded polygon part killed and flattened, or just need to be fixed / gotten rid of.

[Hunter]

Forget it. AR Deleted.

[Bastinka]

It's an easy fix if you put time and effort into it.

[Hotrod]

Forget it. AR Deleted.
What? Why? You didn't actually delete it, did you? I really hope you didn't.

[SnaFuBAR]

baaawwwww
don't get all butthurt.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Hunter, why do you always do this to yourself?

[Evil_Monkey]

Accept the criticism, you will only prove. Yes you could make it that high poly if you was modelling it for a recent game like Crysis, but you are modelling it for an 8 year old game. Just fix up what the users above said and it will work much better. If a vertex is like a millimeter away then its useless being there because it has to make more triangles just for that little thing.

[Hunter]

I DO accept crit. As you should of noticed, it is Tweeks crit that is all bullshit, and does not help much as all because all his crit is basicly saying "Delete and start again"

Tweek is on my ignore list now, so he can't see my posts.
So I will tell you all that I didnt delete it, it was to shut Tweek up so he thinks that he has won.

Well he shouldnt be able to read any of my posts, if he can then the plan is fucked and I will look like an idoit Lol.

Someone will probobly tell him anyway.

I will make it less poly, and re post when done. And I will also improve it.

[Hotrod]

Actually, when you block him, I think it makes it so you can't see his posts, no?

[Disaster]

I think so...

[Hunter]

Grunt tested it for me, and he couldn't see any of my posts. Sooo... I dunno, we will find out...

[Roostervier]

What was wrong with Tweek's crit? He took the time to edit a render in PS or paint and to point out your mistakes. <_<

Just quit being a fucking baby and just fix it like how they told you. Getting frustrated because you aren't fixing the right thing isn't going to help you.

[Bastinka]

I repeat myself as to make sure you look at this, it's really an easy fix, just delete some faces and recreate them. Polycount will go down too.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/SilentWindPL/fixedcloseup.jpg
Thats a picture of what I see.

Blue / Purple: Smoothing / fix the mesh a little.
Red Lines: How the polygons should be placed, or some bad edges that need a fix.
Red Circles: Parts of the mesh that need to be fixed up.
Red Squiggles: Parts of the mesh that need the extruded polygon part killed and flattened, or just need to be fixed / gotten rid of.

Forget about tweek really, it's just a match to see who is smart enough to click ignore or block... took you a while ffs.

[Gwunty]

What was wrong with Tweek's crit? He took the time to edit a render in PS or paint and to point out your mistakes. <_<

Just quit being a fucking baby and just fix it like how they told you. Getting frustrated because you aren't fixing the right thing isn't going to help you.
Thats not the only thing he edited. take a closer look at it, and youll see he bent some areas and added some filers.

[HDoan]

Grunt tested it for me, and he couldn't see any of my posts. Sooo... I dunno, we will find out...
It also takes their names and comments out of your rep thing in user cp.

[Tweek]

Tweek is on my ignore list now, so he can't see my posts.
So I will tell you all that I didnt delete it, it was to shut Tweek up so he thinks that he has won.

Well he shouldnt be able to read any of my posts, if he can then the plan is fucked and I will look like an idoit Lol.

you're NOT REALLY a very clever kid, are you? :lol:

[Disaster]

you're NOT REALLY a very clever kid, are you? :lol:
he just had a :facepalm:

[DrunkenSamus]

you're NOT REALLY a very clever kid, are you? :lol:

Now THAT is a burn. :michaelkelso70sshowisfuckingawesome:

[t3h m00kz]

What was wrong with Tweek's crit? He took the time to edit a render in PS or paint and to point out your mistakes. <_<

Just quit being a fucking baby and just fix it like how they told you. Getting frustrated because you aren't fixing the right thing isn't going to help you.

I'll tell you what's wrong with it.

First of all, Hunter put a lot time into this model. Sure, he's not perfect. Not everyone on this site is capable of high-def perfection worthy of being in a huge franchise video game, but they try their best half the time only to have the critics here shit on their models and point out everything that's wrong and not acknowledge at all the potential the creator has.

And of course, when someone busts their ass to make something only to get nothing but bad feedback for it, they're going to naturally be a bit upset. When that happens, telling somebody to stop being a fucking baby isn't going to help them improve. In fact, it's probably going to make them say "fuck this shit" and not even bother because apparently their stuff in everyone else's eyes is horse shit, so they don't even see a point in trying.

Sweet captain Christ people, learn to be nice instead of finding reasons to shit on people, this shit's not that serious, nobody gets paid for their mods and if they ever did Bungie would step in and start bitch-slapping some hoes

[Roostervier]

Muki, my point was that people were already giving him the best response possible by taking time out of their day and using paint on renders to point out his mistake. They didn't just flat out say, "Sux, redo it all." I just see so much real crit now not taken seriously and for the model maker to be a whiny bitch and tell them to stop and give them real help. When, in fact, that is real help. It's the best help possible.

I saw like 4 people take renders and point out the mistakes in paint, and tell him how to make the model use less tris. If it were me, that's the best response I could expect to get. He was only called a baby after he acted like one.

e: Also, if the people giving crit thought that the person had no potential, they wouldn't waste their time telling him how to fix it, plain and simple.

[t3h m00kz]

You know what, you're right. They're freaking saints, they couldn't have been any nicer about the crit they gave at all.

Not a damn bit.

[SnaFuBAR]

You know what, you're right. They're freaking saints, they couldn't have been any nicer about the crit they gave at all.

Not a damn bit.
you want nice? go show mommy. i know, 100% nicey nice forum etiquette bullshit. don't care, won't ever.

Point out what was wrong with the crits. I won't accept "tweek wasn't a perfect gentleman".

[t3h m00kz]

This thread's dead to me.

Good job on the model Hunter. Hope you get somewhere with it.

[SnaFuBAR]

/careface

I don't get what's wrong with a lot of you people sometimes. You want everything to be happy sunshine and rainbows and meadows full of roses and diasies with peace doves flying and children playing and everything is super perfect.

Well it ain't. Tweek's crit was right on the money and I'm surprised he actually went that far with the photoshop edit.

[legionaire45]

Going back to your old habits again, Hunter? (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showpost.php?p=234986&postcount=74)

You've learned quite a bit since then, but once again; Just because everyone is giving you criticism doesn't mean you should plug up your ears and run. People are going to treat you rough until you can show us that you are capable of accepting criticism, especially Tweek. People out in the real world will expect this as well. Every time someone shoots down one of your models you throw a hissy fit and all it does is hurt your public image on this forum. All that we see is you being weak and annoying. Accept the fact that you aren't the best 3d artist in the world. I can't model an M1911 from memory, I can't make a 20,000 polygon perfectly detailed AWP model in a few hours and I'm sure that a fair number of other people out there can - I've seen them do it. Keep on practicing, listen to what people say and get better. And while you are doing that, don't let your skill level get to your head. From what I am seeing you are acting like you are superior to everyone's criticisms - no one is. Be happy that people are even spending their time to crit your model. The only thing that people here hate more then a pussy is a prick, if you get what I mean xD.

[Monopoly]

/careface

I don't get what's wrong with a lot of you people sometimes. You want everything to be happy sunshine and rainbows and meadows full of roses and diasies with peace doves flying and children playing and everything is super perfect.

Well it ain't. Tweek's crit was right on the money and I'm surprised he actually went that far with the photoshop edit.


They want everything to be gay :lol:

[ICEE]

oh come on guys. If you think that honest and accurate criticism needs to be given in harsh language you need to take anger management. But on the other hand, Tweeks criticism doesn't seem nearly as harsh as most of you are making it sound. It isnt serious business guys its just pixels on the screen.

[Heathen]

I just missed drama?

[SnaFuBAR]

If you think that honest and accurate criticism needs to be given in harsh language

nobody said that.

[Ifafudafi]

*sigh*

Criticfags need to ease up and stop acting like douches, authorfags need to man up and stop acting like pussies.

As for the model, it actually looks quite decent overall, providing the aforementioned errors are fixed.

[DrunkenSamus]

Once again...

http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/57528052/581437

[ICEE]

nobody said that.


I know that noone outright said it but some people on this forum seem to feel that way. Either that or they use rudeness to keep people they consider there lessers in check, or establish dominance. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt though. There are plenty of members here who are capable of giving great criticism, you (snaf) being one of them, but others simply don't know how to convey a serious attitude without being cruel. Also, it never hurts to top off a large critical post by pointing out the positives of someone's work. I think thats something people need to consider, rather than only focus on the negatives. It really does convey a much more friendly, respectable image.

[Corndogman]

It doesn't matter how good your criticism is if you say it like an ass. People don't want to listen to someone who's rude to them. If someone is a complete asshole to you you will probably ignore them. If you speak kindly to them they will listen to you and your message will get across.

[Hunter]

Going back to your old habits again, Hunter? (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showpost.php?p=234986&postcount=74)

From what I am seeing you are acting like you are superior to everyone's criticisms - no one is.
I act more superior? No.



I repeat myself as to make sure you look at this, it's really an easy fix, just delete some faces and recreate them. Polycount will go down too.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/SilentWindPL/fixedcloseup.jpg
Thats a picture of what I see.

Blue / Purple: Smoothing / fix the mesh a little.
Red Lines: How the polygons should be placed, or some bad edges that need a fix.
Red Circles: Parts of the mesh that need to be fixed up.
Red Squiggles: Parts of the mesh that need the extruded polygon part killed and flattened, or just need to be fixed / gotten rid of.

Forget about tweek really, it's just a match to see who is smart enough to click ignore or block... took you a while ffs.
That is what I AM going to do, as I didnt get a face full of shit of SilentWind.


you're NOT REALLY a very clever kid, are you? :lol:
Well actually, I never said that you couldn't read my posts, if you read I said I think. Soo....


fuck, that's worse than i thought >_<

now you can make the same thing with a QUARTER of that polycount.

edit:http://www.johndalessi.com/Paul/ut3/hurrr.jpg

http://www.johndalessi.com/paul/hurrr.jpg

Yeah... Well, that is just amazing criticism. You really think I want some prick coming into my thread and posting that. Good criticism yes, but displayed in the wrong manor, and he's even sad enough to Photoshop it and deform it.

You are all saying that I don't take criticism... Well, if you read, then you will notice that I only said "Fuck it" because of Tweeks pathetic photo shop edit. Why should I have to put up with shit like that.

There was nothing wrong with SilentWinds or anyone else's.
If Tweek does everyone a favour and jumps of a cliff then it would be a lot easier.

I will probably get an infraction for this post because it's offtopic, so I will prob get a temp ban, so, see you in a bit.

[Roostervier]

I don't see why you couldn't have simply ignored Tweek if he bothered you that much. Personally, I still don't see what was wrong with his crit, tbh. Was it really worth creating all this fuss?

@corndogman:

If people want to get better, they will listen no matter what. If they still suck later on, we'll know who to blame.

[Bad Waffle]

oh pfft, stop holding a grudge against tweek. He's a lazy stubborn bastard who hates himself more than anybody. Then again, masters takes it personal even when i joke around about CMT or him.

At any rate, GET ON WITH IT! You chamfered and extruded more than i thought :v

tweek and silent lead the charge, you can do it.

[Hunter]

1 - Here (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/Old.jpeg)- 7428 Triangles
2 - Here (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/New1.jpeg) - 5907 Triangles
Or 3 - Here (http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/New2.jpeg) - 5907 Triangles
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Differences:
1. More detail on the grip and front part of weapon. Un needed because can be added to texture.

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2. Un needed detail taken of from front of weapon, display adjusted

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3.Smoothing groups changed about on the top part of the weapon,looks more like Halo 3.But not much of a difference.

(Can't see much difference... but small changes sometimes make things better even if you don't notice them.)

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Smoothing near the front still needs fixing, and smoothing around the LCD Display still needs fixing.

[Ifafudafi]

I like the extra detail added to the first one, but the third one looks better overall.
As a perspective from the common userbase, rather than the modelwhores who will notice and take apart the most minor details, I say this is most excellent, as I myself can't find much to criticize.

Quite frankly, I also think Tweek's going a little over the top here, but don't feed the troll. Ignoring is better.

[Roostervier]

In that little indent I pointed out earlier, the one I said needed to be deeper, the hemi-sphere you've got in there is wrong. It looks more like a screw than anything (in the real model), so it should just be a cylinder.

[Bastinka]

I see more errors this time, since I compared it to your reference on the website.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/SilentWindPL/New1_fixedyetagaine.png


Fix all that and it should look good.

[Hunter]

I'm not going to get it perfect. I just want it to look good. And I want to keep some of the small detail as those small details don't take up many triangles. I will move bolt part down when everything else is ok because that shouldn't be to hard. Rendering...

Edit:
http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/AR8.jpeg

I've got to go now, I will do more tomorrow. Oh, and ignore that error on the LCD Display. I just noticed that, didn't have time to fix and re-render.

[Bastinka]

Please take a GOOD look at what I posted.

It could really give a lot of advice on how to improve it, also theres a lot of detail you modeled out which could be really a lot easier and poly saving if you just textured it on, but hey its your choice to make UVing harder :3

[Tweek]

honestly, what the hell is wrong with all of you, especially the people agreeing with me.

that paintover i did makes no fucking sense whatsoever, i even drew a fucking penis on it, and ADDED LENSFLARES and a load of random filters.

it wasnt even serious.

i still stand by my original arguement, you can make the exact same thing with half the polycount. also, in those 3 images posted, i can see no real difference at all.

do the same you have been doing, but now go to 3000 polies.

[Corndogman]

I knew that your image wasn't serious at all, I thought i had posted something about that but i guess not.

But yes Silent gave some very good advice on how to improve so do so and you should have yourself a very nice looking AR.

[Heathen]

GOSH...Its been what...3 days? Forget the stupid criticism....MOVE ON :D


It looks fine to me...but I dont know models...

[Bastinka]

GOSH...Its been what...3 days? Forget the stupid criticism....MOVE ON :downs:

:words:
His last post was today, but then again you can never really tell internet sarcasm.

[legionaire45]

I don't know, I thought you were really suggesting that Hunter should model a penis onto his gun. SQUAWK!

[Hunter]

Actually it sounded like Tweek was being nice that. Lol


do the same you have been doing, but now go to 3000 polies.There is no offensive words or anything there.
And that is good crit. Lol.

If I say thanks Tweek and he comes back here he will probably tell me fuck off and make some sort of insult up.

But.. Thanks Tweek.

(I don't hold grudges unless they are being hold against me, unless I really hate the person)

[Bastinka]

Just drop it, tweek will be tweek.. Keep fixing it up.

[Bad Waffle]

The bolt needs to be larger.

[Hunter]

I will make a lower poly version SilentWind, and do EVERYTHING you have shown in that picture. Lol.

And make bolt bigger.

[Bastinka]

Thank you hunter.

Post pics when big changes are made, and only then or better yet when its finished.

[Rooster]

I dont think many BIG changed CAN be made. It looks very close to finished. The only thin that needs to change is the bolts.

[Hunter]

Triangles: 5245
Not much of a difference....

http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/AR9.jpeg

[Roostervier]

Get rid of the hole in the barrel. You can do that in the texture. Also, make the bolt larger.

[NuggetWarmer]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/hunterhelp.jpg

Here's some things that need work.

[legionaire45]

Fix the nasty smoothing errors on the front.

[Heathen]

I saw that but since I know nothing about modeling, I kept my mouth shut.

[t3h m00kz]

I want to have sex with that AR when it's done

Just hope it doesn't shoot it's load all over me

[Hunter]

4392...

http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunterTLS/pics/AR10.jpeg

[Bastinka]

Good improvement, but theres still a few mishaps.

[Hunter]

Yeah, the grip is one. I will redo that once some people point out if there is much else wrong with it.

[PenGuin1362]

Lets put it this way, if you have no intention of ever putting any model into a game, go detail crazy cause it won't matter. But when you're dealing with a game, especially one with an older engine, it's better to be conservative on the detail. Therefor, things like open barrel, flashlight indent, detailed pistol grip, and things of that sort are completely unnecessary. Also it is important to watch the amount of sides on cylinders. A barrel should usually never be more then 12 sides at the most. Also bolt seems fine but it needs to be longer, he doesn't cock the gun with his pinky.

[Roostervier]

4392...

picz
Ah, now you're starting to get the tri count down! It's already down by about a thousand. Try getting it in the 3k area. Just fix it up a bit more, and it'll turn out alright.

e: Yeah, scale up the bolt by like, 70% or something. It's very small.

[Hunter]

I think I lowered the barrel to about 6/7 sides. From looking at my picture I can guess about 8. Because I don't have max open to check, Im going to do more a bit later.

[ima_from_America]

Good work, just make the bolt a bit bigger.