Modding.....

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Hey, as some of you may know, Im able to mod, like a whole lot of other people on the internetz, But i doubt many people here have the hardware to mod h3, so If anyone is making a gametype/map that wont work due to lack of forge or gametype ability, I could help you out, just post the request here or PM me, I hope im able to help :)

[Bastinka]

Capitalize the I's ;D

Also, do you mean like... changing the speed of players because thats possible, or do you have a mod chip?

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I have a memory card + datel transfer kit for modding.

[Masterz1337]

NVM that.

CAn you put carbines on the pit?

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Yes.

[Hotrod]

Well, I already asked you for a few things (by the way, the map that I would like the Hornets in is on my fileshare, Archon 2, please tell me when you download it). Also, I know it's possible to have Chaingun Hogs in The Pit, but is it possible to place Troop Hogs? Also, I might have a Valhalla varient that I would enjoy having, so I might contact you when I figure out what I'd like.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

There can only be one troop hog, and it can only be driven by the host.
And, can you link me to the file?

[leorimolo]

Favorite Mod up to now has to be the sniper rifle/beamrifle snipers gametype

[Arteen]

Favorite Mod up to now has to be the sniper rifle/beamrifle snipers gametype
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If those gametypes work fine with modding, why didn't Bungie allow them in the first place? :mad:

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

They decided to be phail.

[Heathen]

Could you make a grenades only game. No weapons, infinite grenades, and you only get points from sticks? Preferably on a blank foundary.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Not possible, spawning without weapons just gives you an ar >.>

[Heathen]

:( mb a blank sword?

[ima_from_America]

Hornets on Blackout?

[Heathen]

Hornets on Cold Storage :haw:

[jcap]

How about a blank Foundry with a $20,000 budget and 200 of each item?

[Hotrod]

How about a blank Foundry with a $20,000 budget and 200 of each item?
In other words, how about auto RROD?

[Heathen]

? Explain yourself.

[Caboos001]

How many Hornets can you put on Avalanche? Or are you still limited to two =(

[itszutak]

Hornets on Cold Storage :haw:
This.

Like, 20 of them.

[Heathen]

Elephants on Rats Nest?

[ima_from_America]

AI that can be set to friend or foe based on the team?

[Heathen]

AI that can be set to friend or foe based on the team?
Pssh...thats impossible.

[Hotrod]

? Explain yourself.
Well, 200 of each item would be way too much for the 360 to handle, and it would probably overheat, and get the Red Rings of Death. Seriously, there like what, 50-100 items that you can place? That would make it in between 10 000 and 20 000 items on the map. The average map has about 100 items on it. You do the math.

[ima_from_America]

But is that infection form running around in Cold storage scripted or AI?

[t3h m00kz]

I want a gametype with no shields, one shot kills, no radar, and BEAM RIFLE AND ENERGY SWORD START.

I hate trying to make Instagib with the Sniper Rifle. Reload just doesn't seem very insta-gibby

[Heathen]

How are you gonna distribute these now?

And @ Hotrod, I dont think it would overheat the xbox. Some games have millions of independent objects and they dont rrod. And besides....the game would lag like the dickens before it overheated. My xbox has never overheated, or even froze. And I have put it through some mean shit.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

:( mb a blank sword?
Yes

Hornets on Blackout?
No

Hornets on Cold Storage :haw:
No

How about a blank Foundry with a $20,000 budget and 200 of each item?
No :(

In other words, how about auto RROD?
No

How many Hornets can you put on Avalanche? Or are you still limited to two =(
up to 500

This.
Yes
Like, 20 of them.
No

Elephants on Rats Nest?
No

AI that can be set to friend or foe based on the team?
No

Well, 200 of each item would be way too much for the 360 to handle, and it would probably overheat, and get the Red Rings of Death. Seriously, there like what, 50-100 items that you can place? That would make it in between 10 000 and 20 000 items on the map. The average map has about 100 items on it. You do the math.
Depends on the polygons on the map, and the avg map has more than 300 items on it fyi

But is that infection form running around in Cold storage scripted or AI?
Scripted Ai, not spawnable

I want a gametype with no shields, one shot kills, no radar, and BEAM RIFLE AND ENERGY SWORD START.

I hate trying to make Instagib with the Sniper Rifle. Reload just doesn't seem very insta-gibby
Possible


How are you gonna distribute these now?

And @ Hotrod, I dont think it would overheat the xbox. Some games have millions of independent objects and they dont rrod. And besides....the game would lag like the dickens before it overheated. My xbox has never overheated, or even froze. And I have put it through some mean shit.
Depends on Polygons of the object and i can distribute through custom games

[Hotrod]

Ok, maybe it wouldn't give you RROD, but it would lag like hell. Have you ever played that map with 102 Elephants? That lagged like crazy. If we had 200 Elephants, plus another couple thousand objects, it would be unplayable, due to lag. Also, they put the money limit for a reason, so you couldn't overload the 360.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

You can only go up to about 640 objects on a map.

[Kornman00]

also, they put the money limit for a reason, so you couldn't overload the 360.
No, its because they allocate so much memory for world objects, and thus have to adjust how many of each object (based on what it does and what OTHER resources it needs and spawns) they can have without making the game run it's object garbage collection prematurely. You wouldn't "overload" the 360.

[Hotrod]

Alright, well thanks for clearing that up for me.

[I_Am_Error117]

are you letting the objects be pick up able(in forge)?


Cuz i know some objects arent pickup able, in some mods...

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

You cant resave a mod in forge even if the object is pickupable, the modded objects wont spawn, just like they wont when you start a new round.

[Saggy]

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2369/45509062fullxp6.jpg
Tehe...

[Heathen]

Recon is ugly tbh.

[Hotrod]

Let me guess, you know how to mod Halo 3 completely, since you have a Hybrid 360?

[ultama121]

Hybrid 360s don't exist, it was a term made up by Anthony to help people understand how modding Halo 3 works.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Let me guess, you know how to mod Halo 3 completely, since you have a Hybrid 360?
May I ask who you are talking to?

[Heathen]

You're right I'm sure.

[Hotrod]

May I ask who you are talking to?
Saggy

[Saggy]

Let me guess, you know how to mod Halo 3 completely, since you have a Hybrid 360?
Nope. Just a normal Xbox 360 and no modchip.

[Limited]

Edited a replay so you had recon flaming bungie armor?

[Saggy]

Edited a replay so you had recon flaming bungie armor?
Exactly. But the Elephants were all in game.

[Heathen]

recon is ugly tbh.

[t3h m00kz]

I'll take my Elite combat armor over Recon anyday >:0

[Llama Juice]

make a castle of pylons on blackout (in the center space) Use all 640 of them.

[Patrickssj6]

Can't believe Modacity people are so behind with H3 modding...

To sum it quickly all up...I don't own H3 nor do I a 360 but many files are stored inside a container file. So the file are inside a file. What's the advantage? When the game reads those container files to extract the actual data they can check the container hash which shows the game if the file inside the container file has been tampered with.

Now people can resign container files which means re-calculate the hash to their own forge variant (the crap you see above in those pictures) / player profile (unlock achievements) and store it back into a container file.

MAP files can't yet be modified since they are encrypted and can't be decrypted unless you have a special key which only Bungie has and you can't brute force it because it would take you years. Only way to bypass this would be by running special code inside the 360 but it's not possible to date since the 360 (doesn't matter which version, even DEV) doesn't allow you to run unsigned code.

God, worst explination ever.

[Llama Juice]

There are pylons on blackout right?.. I stand by my request. If there aren't pylons on blackout, guardian will do.

(yes I know you're talking about the kids that want stuff on maps that aren't on the maps to begin with.)

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I can has picture of the pylons, or are those the birds?

[Llama Juice]

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[Heathen]

Cone shooting gun ftw.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

oic A house out of cones?
ORLY?
Well Ill see what I can do :awesome:

[Heathen]

ftwftwftw

[Corndogman]

Is it possible to remove Player clipping from maps?

also, Scarab on avalanche.

[Heathen]

Scarab placing is impossible. It has to have originally been in the map or something like that.

[Hotrod]

So, what things are in Avalanche that aren't there normally? I know there's a Missile Pod, but is there something else? Such as a Gauss Warthog?

Also, it is possible to place a Transport Warthog in Valhalla, right?

[Corndogman]

Can you take stuff from the single player maps and put them in multiplayer maps or does it have to be from another MP map? Because i know there's a troop hog outside of the pit that you can get into the main area of the map but like you said, only the host can drive it.

[Heathen]

Hotrod: I dont think you can put a troopie in Val.
Corndog: I think it has to be in THAT mp map.
I do have a question though. There was a variant of Snowbound that had Floating Sniper housing and Shade turrets. How is this possible. There are shades in Guardian too.

[Hotrod]

Well, I did see a map varient that did have the Troop Hog in it, and it was Valhalla.

The reason there were Sniper Towers on Snowbound, and Shades on Guardian (and Troopie in Val), is because those objects are in the map file, but not place-able in Forge. So, the only way to put them in is through modding.

[Heathen]

Ah.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I honestly dont know how to put them in the map on vallhalla.

[DEElekgolo]

I made a film editor for halo 3 film and film clips. Mind if I post?

[t3h m00kz]

Why not?

EDIT: WTF LINK. FUCK YOU H2VISTA
(http://quadropolis.us/node/807)

[DEElekgolo]

Mirage
Current version: 0.95 Open Beta.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5904/miragepicqs0.png

Features

- Change Player information for all players(still testing)
- Change Gamertags
- Change Servicetag
- Change Player Colors
DOWNLOAD (http://www.filedropper.com/miragebeta95)

[Hotrod]

So, is this just for changing videos, or profiles?

[DEElekgolo]

It edits films, and film clips.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Meh
Deehunter, Why do you seem to stalk me on whatever forum I exist on?
And dont make me post mah app!
Actually!
Hey, heres a release for a program that hardly anyone has been waiting for! *yay*
Anyways, It modifies films and injects/extracts maps for Sandbox
It does everythign except emblem stuff *even character swapping* (elite/spartan)
And now time for pics!
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7038/youcanhaspicshh0.jpg
And now release!
Schitzo6.rar - FileFront.com (http://files.filefront.com/Schitzo6rar/;11260101;/fileinfo.html)

[DEElekgolo]

I saw you post that in halomods. It was crap. And I actually used my own research. From what I see my app is the first app out there that edited film clips. Also I have researched how to edit ranks and exp and force your character to have black armor. Most of the features you have on your application are already done in mines with more. After seeing the desperate need for a film editor. I am officially updating Mirage to Mirage v2.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

also @ your rep
Your a hypocryte.

[Heathen]

Hypocrite :eng101:

I'd like to see some display of unasked for mods.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Ive been lasy lately, dont expect much new :p
atleast not for a little bit.

[DEElekgolo]

Found out how to edit ranks in any film. And how to have icons in any halo 3 ASCII text. I can do icons of any weapon,the buttons, thumbs up, etc.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Dont care.

[unknown v2]

I saw you post that in halomods. It was crap. And I actually used my own research. From what I see my app is the first app out there that edited film clips. Also I have researched how to edit ranks and exp and force your character to have black armor. Most of the features you have on your application are already done in mines with more. After seeing the desperate need for a film editor. I am officially updating Mirage to Mirage v2.

Editing film clips has no effect to anything. Editing ranks in films?...

To me it seems like you are desperately trying to prove yourself or something.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Tru dat ^.^
He stalks me on any forum I go to.

[DEElekgolo]

I don't even know you lone wolf... I only know you on this forum.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

You stalk me on any forum I post my Program on
seriously.

[Heathen]

k. What was this thread about anyways?

[Terin]

Modding, silly!

Where would you get this modding kit that you have, and how much would it cost, lonewolf? I might want to do stuff like that.

[Saggy]

http://us.codejunkies.com/Products/XB360-Transfer-Kit__EF000188.aspx

You'll also need a 64 or 512MB Memory card. PM me if you want more details, or talk to lone wolf.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I use a memory card and datel transfer kit.
You can buy those for about 30-40$ or Xsata/xport for 40-60$ and modify the files from the HDD

[t3h m00kz]

Wait

There are memory cards for the 360?

... what

[Pooky]

Wait

There are memory cards for the 360?

... what

there were memory cards for the Xbox why not for the 360

[Terin]

Wait

There are memory cards for the 360?

... whathttp://media.gameworldnetwork.com/news_shots/193250361645c12c598f0a7.jpg

>_>

I'm looking at that datel transfer kit, however, I have a 256MB memory card. Would that work?

[t3h m00kz]

there were memory cards for the Xbox why not for the 360

What I don't get is why the original XBox memory cards don't work for the frickin 360, I don't have my hudless Halo 2 gametype anymore >:(

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

http://media.gameworldnetwork.com/news_shots/193250361645c12c598f0a7.jpg

>_>

I'm looking at that datel transfer kit, however, I have a 256MB memory card. Would that work?
Yeah, It should work, you could try finding it on gamestop or
http://www.amazon.com/DATEL-DUS0150-I-XBOX-360%C3%B4-TRANSFER/dp/B0016G9OJK/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1218294116&sr=8-2
Good luck!
Also you need the original .map files of the game's multiplayer maps, and if you need them pm me and I can send you a link to the resource.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

What I don't get is why the original XBox memory cards don't work for the frickin 360, I don't have my hudless Halo 2 gametype anymore >:(
The xbox 360 doesnt support the original xbox's fatx format, aswell as doesnt allow any original xbox files on a memcard.
For those who cant/dont want to get xsata or xport, you can try the following alternatives:
http://www.amazon.com/Talismoon-Minispy-Drive-Transfer-Adapter/dp/B000ID32PY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1218294487&sr=8-4
Basically does the same as xsata for a cheaper price.
http://www.amazon.com/Talismoon-Minispy-Transfer-Adapter-original/dp/B000JOOEU4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1218294487&sr=8-5
Same as above, but has support for the original xbox.
You can also use the microsoft hard drive transfer kit for people who got a new hdd and need to move their stuff over
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/26/xbox-360-hard-drive-transfer-kit-hands-on/
or you can do http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEyAZlukkkkGLVUagB.php but after you take it out, you can connect it to your pc, modify whats on it, then put it back :)
Good luck!
http://splurge.wordpress.com/2006/06/18/original-xbox-game-saves-on-the-360/ for those who want the saves on a 360 from original xbox
I dont know what much that will do though.

[jngrow]

Can I get 16 flamethrowers on a Foundry variant? Oh, and regenerating fire nades?

[DEElekgolo]

No. Forge maps set limits to what you can spawn and grenade regeneration is .map modding.