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ExAm
July 23rd, 2008, 11:41 PM
Found on Reddit:

1984 : Newspeak
Now : Politically Correct speech


1984 : The red sash of the Junior Anti-Sex League
Now : The red ribbon of the Anti-Aids celibacy league


1984 : Telescreens in every room. The programming runs 24 hours a day, and the proles have no way of turning their screens off.
Now : Televisions in every room. The programming runs 24 hours a day, and the proles rarely turn their screens off.


http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/cam.gif 1984 : Telescreens in all public and private places, so the populace could be watched to prevent thoughtcrime.
Now : Surveillance cameras in most buildings (operated by businesses), and in some public streets (operated by police) to prevent crime. Although most of these cameras are operated by private businesses instead of our intrusive government, the end result is the same.


1984 : Helicopters silently watch over the masses to keep people from committing thoughtcrime, by planting the fear of "always being watched"
Now : Helicopters silently watch over our highways to keep people from breaking traffic laws, by planting the fear of "always being watched"


1984 : Lotteries with very few (if any) winners. Held just to collect income for state, and to give hope to the masses
Now : Lotteries with very few (if any) winners. Held just to collect income for state, and to give hope to the masses.
Lotteries are basically a tax on stupidity. Anybody with any understanding of math at all knows that it is a complete waste of money. Since only 45% of the money collected from sales is sent back out as prizes, odds are that you are going to loose more than half of the money the put into it - and most people will not see any return on their investment what-so-ever.
Every time I see some minimum-wage-earning mother-of-four throwing her her hard earned five dollar bill down on the counter for a pack of cigarettes and a "chance to win millions", my cold heart melts. Lotteries and cigarette taxes are nothing more than a way to squeeze every last cent possible out of the lower and middle class, and the politicians that are responsible for these "poverty taxes" should be drug out into the street and shot.
When the state sold the idea to state run gambling to the public, they told us that the money would go to education. ("How can you be against the kids!") But, they failed to tell us that the existing funding would be pulled away to fund other projects, resulting in little if any gain for education.
And as I mentioned earlier, only 45% of lottery revenues are returned directly to the people in the form of prizes. And, if you happen to be the person that defies the odds and somehow manages to win that 45%, the federal and state taxes are going to reclaim 30%-50% of your winnings, which only leaves about 25%-30% of the original take for the the winners - the other 70%-75% being taken by the state.
And, as if that wasn't enough money to make the state happy, the "big money" prizes are usually paid off over a 20 year period. So, the prize winner's earning are diminished even further by inflation. But really, when you look at it, the government is actually keeping ALL of the money...

If a person wins $1,000,000, their yearly payments would be $50,000 a year. However, the interest on $1,000,000 at the prime rate (approx 8%) is is about $80,000 a year!... $30,000 more than is being paid off to the winner! Of course, the winner may elect to take half now ... which means state and federal governments will end up retaining 85%-90% of the original receipts!

And of course, any purchases made with your winnings will be subject to local sales tax...

No matter how you look at it, the only real winner is the state.


1984 : Ministry of Peace
Now : Department of Defense

1984 : Useless statistics, incorrect economic predictions, and slanted opinions polls are presented on the telescreen as "legitimate news", to give people the impression that "things are getting better", and that all people agree with the popular way of thinking.
Now : Useless statistics, incorrect economic predictions, and slanted opinions polls are presented on the Evening news as "legitimate news", to give people the impression that "things are getting better", and that all people agree with the popular way of thinking.


1984 : History is being rewritten, to conform with modern beliefs. All references to oldthink (http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/go-now.html#oldthink) were being removed or rewritten.
Now : History is being rewritten, to conform with modern beliefs. The most obvious example of this - The removal of "racist", Violent, or Sexist material from popular cartoons. "Heckle & Jeckle" cartoons have been permanently shelved, since they are said to portray "negros". "Tom & Jerry" cartoons that contained the "mamma" character have also disappeared. You no longer see Daffy's head actually being blown off by Elmer. I recently saw an old superman cartoon in which the sexist line, "Isn't that too dangerous for a woman" (referring to Lois) was removed.


1984 : People are steered away from consuming rare goods such as Chocolate, Steak, Sugar, Coffee, Cigarettes, and alcohol by rationing.
Now : People are steered away from consuming rare goods such as Chocolate, Steak, Sugar, Coffee, Cigarettes, and alcohol by warnings that declare that these items are bad for your health.


1984 : There is always war. If peace is made with one country, war is claimed on another nation to keep the military machine rolling.
Now : There is always war. If peace is made with one country, war is claimed (or threatened) on another nation to keep the military machine rolling.


1984 : Songs are created by machines. This is done to make sure nobody can take credit for songs, or write songs not in line with Ingsoc.
Now : Songs are created by synthesizers. Nobody can realistically take credit for their own songs because most songs are re-mixes or a collage of dubs from other people's music.


1984 : Telescreen is full of confessions from "Thought criminals". They confessed to hatred of the government, crimes of all kinds, perversions of all kinds.
Now : Daytime talk shows are full of white trash who enjoy sharing tales of their pathetic existence with the whole world.


1984 : From Goldstein's book - "The effect (of the atomic wars) was to convince the ruling groups of all countries that a few more atomic bombs would mean the end of organized society, and hence of their own power. Thereafter, although no formal agreement was ever made or hinted at, no more bombs were dropped. All three powers merely continue to produce atomic bombs and store them up against the decisive opportunity which they all believe will come sooner or later. And meanwhile the art of war has remained almost stationary for thirty or forty years. Helicopters are more used than they were formerly, bombing planes have been largely superseded by self-propelled projectiles, and the fragile movable battleship has given way to the almost unsinkable Floating Fortress; but otherwise there has been little development. The tank, the submarine, the torpedo, the machine gun, even the rifle and the hand grenade are still in use. And in spite of the endless slaughters reported in the Press and on the telescreens, the desperate battles of earlier wars, in which hundreds of thousands or even millions of men were often killed in a few weeks, have never been repeated."
Now : The effect (of the only nuclear war in history, WWII) was to convince the ruling groups of all countries that a few more atomic bombs would mean the end of organized society, and hence of their own power. Thereafter, although the threat of atomic war remained, no more bombs were dropped. All atomic powers merely continued to produce atomic bombs and store them up against the decisive opportunity which they all believed will come sooner or later. And meanwhile the art of war has remained almost stationary for fifty or sixty years. Helicopters are more used than they were formerly, bombing planes have been largely superseded by self-propelled projectiles, and the fragile movable battleship has given way to the aircraft carrier, (which generally stays far away from any actual combat); but otherwise there has been little development. The tank, the submarine, the torpedo, the machine gun, even the rifle and the hand grenade are still in use. And in spite of the endless slaughters reported in the Press and on the television, the desperate battles of earlier wars, in which hundreds of thousands or even millions of men were often killed in a few weeks, have never been repeated.
Original here (http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/go-now.html).

Discuss.

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Sever
July 24th, 2008, 12:06 AM
Firstly, OH SHIT! Another awesome find by ExAm!

Secondly, you need to make your own thread that contains all of these things. Seriously. It's step two in the "four steps to profit" method (hang on - we're still working on step three).

itszutak
July 24th, 2008, 01:30 AM
Orwell doubleplusungood thoughcrimer
Moderntime doubleplusgood


:tinfoil:

Admittedly, the author seems to stretch the truth a bit, but I do agree with some of their points.


EDIT: oh hey there's a dictionary for newspeak? cool

ExAm
July 24th, 2008, 04:43 AM
Firstly, OH SHIT! Another awesome find by ExAm!

Secondly, you need to make your own thread that contains all of these things. Seriously. It's step two in the "four steps to profit" method (hang on - we're still working on step three).I did. It fell off the page and I figured I'd just stick up a new topic for each one.

EDIT: lol, "RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008" actually started out as an image of a surveillance camera...

Bad Waffle
July 24th, 2008, 04:44 AM
ahh, 1984. Great book.

nooBBooze
July 24th, 2008, 11:22 AM
Seriously, most of these comparisons just made me "meh".
Orwells vision can hardly be compared to our current situation because in the book, the starting point for invasive measures like a new, simplyfied language, omnipresent surveillance technology and the like, was a totalitarian [and hence centralized] government wich imposed them on their people.
And since i believe the world, or at least democracies with a free market economy is much more complicated than that and considering the various governmental and private [also on the personal level] interests that may or may not correspond and may or may not impact the overall orgnisation of a nation and ultimately its people, i call shenanigans.

tl;dr:
meh

blind
July 24th, 2008, 02:40 PM
The music thing isn't really correct. Synthesizers are just another instrument. And most songs are original :S, only two basic genres have a huge number of remixes or dubs.

ExAm
July 24th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Yeah, it isn't all that great, but I thought it was amusing at the least.

Arteen
July 24th, 2008, 04:26 PM
I don't think there's much significance in any of the comparisons. They're tenuous at best and just plain wrong at worst. Seriously, helicopters?

DaneO'Roo
July 24th, 2008, 04:35 PM
The music thing isn't really correct. Synthesizers are just another instrument. And most songs are original :S, only two basic genres have a huge number of remixes or dubs.

I'm sure that's what you all tell yourself so you can sleep at night :eyesroll:

Sorry, but splicing together audio tracks and creating fake drum beats isn't fucking music. It would be if the song sounded like.....music, but fact of the matter is it's all generic "people talking fast into a mic" bullshit. Always a 4/4 beat. No irregular time signatures, no use of layering or dissonance. Anybody with an ear could compose a pop track backing.

Heathen
July 24th, 2008, 04:37 PM
I rather like this find.






Surprised Sim hasn't hit this yet.

Amit
July 24th, 2008, 04:58 PM
ahh, 1984. Great book.

It was a very boring book yet interesting and gripping near the end. And the essays we had to write, just damn...

1984 has majorly affected my brain mentally, in ways that I can't begin to describe. Fuck YEAH/YOU, George Orwell.

Terin
July 24th, 2008, 05:03 PM
Yeah yeah, we're all being watched by the government, we have no future, we're all going to be mindless zombies following the government, etc. etc.

blind
July 24th, 2008, 05:20 PM
I'm sure that's what you all tell yourself so you can sleep at night :eyesroll:

Sorry, but splicing together audio tracks and creating fake drum beats isn't fucking music. It would be if the song sounded like.....music, but fact of the matter is it's all generic "people talking fast into a mic" bullshit. Always a 4/4 beat. No irregular time signatures, no use of layering or dissonance. Anybody with an ear could compose a pop track backing.
I'm not talking about pop, I'm talking about Trance/Goa. Can you honestly tell me that you can make a good Goa beat right now?
And about the "people talking fast into a mic" comment, I'm sure your your grandparents/parents had similar views on rock and roll when it was first emerging :eyesroll:

Warsaw
July 24th, 2008, 09:18 PM
There's a difference though. Dane is frowning upon what people his own age listen to and call music, and has actually been out for a long time. Assuming he's referring to rap, it has been out at least since the early 90s, most likely longer.

And I agree. It isn't really music. All it is is a regular predictable percussion beat with [usually] bad rhymes thrown over top portraying some trash's view on the government and/or sex and/or street life (though I guess that's no worse than all those rock songs that have someone whining about losing his girlfriend or whatever).

Also, nice find ExAm. While the parallels are exaggerated, there is some truth behind it. Also, the motivation in this case isn't power, it's money.

The_Wraith
July 24th, 2008, 10:28 PM
There's a difference though. Dane is frowning upon what people his own age listen to and call music, and has actually been out for a long time. Assuming he's referring to rap, it has been out at least since the early 90s, most likely longer.

And I agree. It isn't really music. All it is is a regular predictable percussion beat with [usually] bad rhymes thrown over top portraying some trash's view on the government and/or sex and/or street life (though I guess that's no worse than all those rock songs that have someone whining about losing his girlfriend or whatever).

Also, nice find ExAm. While the parallels are exaggerated, there is some truth behind it. Also, the motivation in this case isn't power, it's money.Rap and Hip-hop are music. You can have an opinion that they aren't very good genres, but you can't honestly try and state that they aren't music. Btw, they have been around since the 60s, more or less, ableit in differing forms. Oh and usually only commercial rap is trashy. I'm not a fan of it myself for the most part but there are some really good underground groups.

Country though, that is just pure evil. :lol:

blind
July 25th, 2008, 12:31 AM
Yeah. You can't base a whole genre on Lil Wayne, lollin
listen to some Atmosphere