View Full Version : A well written argument against the historical existence of Jesus
ExAm
July 26th, 2008, 06:50 AM
I know, more controversy.
Now, I've thought for a while that Jesus was an actual historical figure, yet I did not believe in the miracles he performed or his resurrection, only that he was followed by people who thought he was the Messiah. However, this article (http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/jesus_myth_history.htm) theorizes that Jesus himself never existed in the first place. It's making me think.
Bad Waffle
July 26th, 2008, 06:55 AM
If you ask me, none of it ever existed. The bible was simply written as a means to keep people 'thinking', a means to use people's paranoia and fear to keep them in line. Maybe it was written to test people's ability to believe, to test our uniquely human-only higher thought? We'll never know but the 'devout' who actually go to 'heaven'. Or perhaps those who go to 'hell'.
nooBBooze
July 26th, 2008, 08:12 AM
I know, more controversy.
It's not that an overload of controversy is bad, it's just that there have been way too much threads on religion recently and to me it seems everything that can be said, has already been said in them and it will take some weeks before everyones intelectual copypasta will seem new again.
Always apprectiate your contributions thoguh <3
tl;dr: not again
Ill try and contribute to this thread:
idk if you guise heard it but appearantly some more ancient writings have surfaced according to wich Jesus died not for the sake of humanity but for the liberation of the tribes of israel wich would -if anything- render him a plain revolutionary [by means of propaganda].
Now wouldnt know how these texts fit into this picture as that article claims he never existed in the first place.
Heathen
July 26th, 2008, 10:22 AM
I thought much the same way. Its all possible that he existed, but I doubt HIGHLY that he was magic.
blind
July 26th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Anonymous wrote the gospels
oh fu-
Bodzilla
July 26th, 2008, 10:38 AM
that is one insanely long link you got there.
>_<
Choking Victim
July 26th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Over the course of history, our ancestors developed theories in a struggle to understand what can't be explained. Some tribes worshipped the sun as a 'god' because they couldn't explain it. The bible is just an example of this that people follow in our modern time.
Kalub
July 26th, 2008, 10:51 AM
Most of it is absurd anyways.... Its like me brainwashing my firstborn into thinking my cat is an alien from Mars.
nooBBooze
July 26th, 2008, 11:31 AM
^ Now THAT would be absurd. I mean i would rather brainwash my child into believing in some giant flying speghetii monster instead. :v:
flibitijibibo
July 26th, 2008, 01:15 PM
Well, the jews have it pretty close. There are historic records that aren't the bible showing that he did really exist. He probably didn't have any of the magic tricks though.
You have to remember, most KJ bible readers are those that believe the earth was created in seven days. These are the same people that wrote the New Testament. I will now direct you to Lewis Black and his explanation of the Old Testament.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g&feature=related
LinkandKvel
July 27th, 2008, 04:24 AM
ALOT of things in the bible are exaggerated. The bible is not meant to be taken literal. The hierarchy peeps themselves have stated this.
DaneO'Roo
July 27th, 2008, 06:10 AM
Yeah, just like the whole Noah's ark thing, it says "2 of every animal" and tbh, EVERY animal, to them, was probably maybe, 3 different cows, a couple geese and chickens, maybe a dog or a cat or two, and the flood was probably just in 1 stretch of land, in some flash flood prone valley.
The_Wraith
July 27th, 2008, 06:31 AM
Words are words are words. Either way nobody has a way to prove their argument. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof)
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