Canada bus attack leaves man decapitated!

[Disaster]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20080731-1058-canada-busstabbing.html
That's disgusting.

[Blam!]

The hell?

[Limited]

Wtf? Also, 40 - 50 times? Dont people realise they are dead?

[Hotrod]

I read this earlier, and I find it very disturbing that somebody would do that.

[Disaster]

I know. Cmon That's just gross.

[Con]

The weirdest part is he takes the head to the front of the bus and shows off.

[Disaster]

What kind of sick freak would do that?

[ICEE]

What kind of sick bastard would do that?


The kind of a guy who saw a horror movie and liked the enigmatic mindset of a fictional serial killer, then got dumped by his girlfriend. How fucked up is this? A random stranger killed for no reason..

[Blam!]

When I first read the title, I thought a bus full of Canadians ran over a guy until he was decapitated. :XD:

[Stormwing]

And apparently the victim was a guy in his 18-20s taking the bus home, sleeping while listening to his Ipod or something. i.e. just like any one of us on any boring-ass bus trip.

sick fuckers. screw the bystander effect, freaks like these need to be taken down.

[Con]

When I first read the title, I thought a bus full of Canadians ran over a guy until he was decapitated. :XD:
me too

[Rentafence]

This is exactly why knives should be illegal. There is absolutely NO reason a civilian should be able to buy a knife. Just simply making knives illegal to all would have prevented this. On a serious note though, what the hell. I think I'm scared to go on buses now.

[Disaster]

On a serious note though, what the hell. I think I'm scared to go on buses now.
Same here.

[Heathen]

Idk. When I read things like this I think...."Man...what I would give to have been able to just yell crazy shit as that was happening."

I think I am brainhurt.

[Anton]

This is exactly why knives should be illegal. There is absolutely NO reason a civilian should be able to buy a knife. Just simply making knives illegal to all would have prevented this. On a serious note though, what the hell. I think I'm scared to go on buses now.

If you weren't joking then:


WHER MUH STEAK KNIFE? D:

but yeah, humans have had knives since we started using tools. Stone knives ftw. :3


Also, this is very sick. I wonder if the guy tried to fight back at all? I think he would, but who knows maybe he leaned over and touched the guy the wrong way and SNAP!

Only they will know.

[n00b1n8R]

What the fuck.

Am I the only one who couldn't help laughing a little while reading this?

[Blam!]

What the fuck.

Am I the only one who couldn't help laughing a little while reading this?
You sick, sick bastard.
I laughed too.

[Chainsy]

I find it funny that everyone ran off the bus instead of helping him or restraining the man.

[Heathen]

I would have been killed for staying and videoing while yelling "CHECK THIS SHIT YOUTUBE, CHECK THIS SHIT!"

[n00b1n8R]

If they were halfway between two towns and the guy was allready stabbed a few times, I imagine the only thing they could have done for the guy is put him out of his mysery sooner.

I suppose this is one argument for the right to bear arms for defense uses.

[Corndogman]

No, Your fucked in the head n00b.

Also, from the article it seemed like no one even tried to help the poor guy, I mean as soon as you hear the scream and realize someones being stabbed, you'd think at least one person would get up and try to tackle the sicko or something, I mean come on. It says everyone just ran off the bus.

Idk if its just Canadians, but in America somebody would have taken the guy out and beat the shit out of him, and hopefully the victim would have lived.

[CN3089]

No, you're fucked in the head n00b.

Also, from the article it seemed like no one even tried to help the poor guy, I mean as soon as you hear the scream and realize someones being stabbed, you'd think at least one person would get up and try to tackle the sicko or something, I mean come on. It says everyone just ran off the bus.

Idk if its just Canadians, but in America somebody would have taken the guy out and beat the shit out of him, and hopefully the victim would have lived.

No, they wouldn't have. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect)

[The_Wraith]

You guys and your weird ideas of helping people. Listen to the smarties, they know what up with the humanistc and realistic decisions. And yes the Bystander Effect is a miracle blanket phenomenon that overrides all individual thoughts the moment such an event occurs. It's been proven to be so. :wiki:

[Zeph]

Makes me anxious to get my concealed carry permit here soon.

[CN3089]

Makes me anxious to get my concealed carry permit here soon.

And how would that have helped? There'd be two (or more) people dead instead of one.


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[Heathen]

Yeah, but he could have shot the assclown with the knife. Whats that saying about bringing a knife to a gun fight?

[Zeph]

And how would that have helped? There'd be two (or more) people dead instead of one.



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Umm, shoot him before he cuts me some more? I've had a few buddies get stabbed before. They've said it hurts like hell, but you can still move about and think clearly. Oddly enough, one of my friends from NC got stabbed and didn't realize it until after he drove home.

Lets say I was the beheaded guy in this case. I would rather die knowing I could somehow fight back than helpless.

[CN3089]

Umm, shoot him before he cuts me some more? I've had a few buddies get stabbed before. They've said it hurts like hell, but you can still move about and think clearly.

In this specific case though, he got stabbed in the neck.


But yeah CCW laws are good as long as the background checks are thorough.

e: uh oh this isn't going to be another gun thread is it

[SnaFuBAR]

I suppose this is one argument for the right to bear arms for defense uses.
checkm8

also, waiting for buckshot to blame it on americans or something.

[CN3089]

also, waiting for buckshot to blame it on americans or something.

This wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for all the illegal American knives coming over the border! <http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/mad.gif>

[The_Wraith]

And how would that have helped? There'd be two (or more) people dead instead of one.



http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-frogout.gifSo basically what I expected.

[CN3089]

This would have never happened to me. If that sucker tried to pull that crazy shit I would have blocked the knife with my taut neck muscles and then delivered a devastating double uppercut.

This is what I would have done. *flex* http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-c00l.gif

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[Mr Buckshot]

Needs moar death penalty for the attacker. Sick bastard will relax in prison and waste taxpayer's money on food and lodging.


Makes me anxious to get my concealed carry permit here soon.

This is serious shit, but it doesn't occur 1/10th as often as it does on the other side. The restrictions on gun ownership prevents Columbines and Virginia Techs. Anyway, given the extreme proximity of the "fight," if the victim had pulled out a gun, the bullet could fire THROUGH the attacker and hurt someone else, right? This ain't the movies - even a 9mm slug can go right through a target and potentially hurt an innocent.

There are tons of Canadian farmers and Aboriginals (those on reserves, that is) who carry legal shotguns and rifles. Yet we don't see much gun violence here. Proves that if guns are restricted to those who actually have practical uses for them, violence is minimized.

[SnaFuBAR]

This is why i keep a .45 and a machete under my pillow.

[Rentafence]

You take a pillow full of weapons with you on the bus?

[CN3089]

This is exactly why knives should be illegal. There is absolutely NO reason a civilian should be able to buy a knife. Just simply making knives illegal to all would have prevented this. On a serious note though, what the hell. I think I'm scared to go on buses now.

you were joking but apparently somebody actually suggested this:


Meanwhile, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said Thursday he was shocked when he heard about the incident.

He said it was "probably one-of-a-kind in Canadian history."

The minister said he's not entertaining any notion of registering knives as dangerous weapons given that millions of kitchen knives alone are sold annually.

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e: wait when the hell did Stockwell Day become our Public Safety Minister? No wonder shit like this is happening

[The_Wraith]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/ALEVELBEYONDGETOUT.gifSo you edited your first post and reposted a second, lamer one? I see.

[Bodzilla]

I stand on the side of light! CN, and you shall not pass.

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[Cortexian]

The restrictions on gun ownership prevents Columbines and Virginia Techs.
Not really. I currently have access to,

Benelii 12 Gauge Semi-Auto Shotgun
.308 Bolt-Action Carbine
30-30 Lever-Action Rifle
.44 Magnum Desert Eagle Mark VII
.45 ACP Heckler & Koch Mark 23

I can go and pick them out of the closet any time I want. I'm not going to go and take them to a public place and start shooting people though.

Btw, I live in Alberta, the guns aren't mine (yet) and they're registered to my father at the moment. When I turn 18 in September I'll be getting the Deagle, MK 23, and 30-30 transferred to my name.

My point? Anyone with a clean background in Canada can legally get almost* any of the items "required" for a similar incident once they turn 18.

*Fully automatic weapons aren't legally available to ANY Canadian civilians.

On topic, I've been witnessed to a stabbing near my high-school, it didn't result in death because my friends and I (numbering about 8-10) stepped in and "relieved" the stabber of his knife. We then called the cops and waited. Cool thing? None of us ever got charged because the stabber "dropped" his knife according to 11 other people ;).

[DaneO'Roo]

This sickens me. Someone lost a brother, a son. A family that might have been created, due to this one guy surviving, is now gone. A child, that could have been born from this guy, destroyed.

It's a fucking KNIFE. Throw your heavy luggage at him, dissorientate him, smash a window and stab HIM with the glass, or throw it at him. There were so many fucking ways they could have stopped this.

Fucking selfish bastards. I guess I feel more for this since I'm a 19 year old guy who travels on a bus everyday to college, but FUCK ME. Lives were ruined because of 37 selfish fucking assholes. The deceased's future son or daughter, could have been the next Jimi Hendrix, the next Jack Nicholson. Something was destroyed forever. Fuck this shit.

[ExAm]

“He dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up,” said Cody Olmstead, a passenger from Kentville, Nova Scotia.
I... Uh... what!?

[Pope]

This sickens me. Someone lost a brother, a son. A family that might have been created, due to this one guy surviving, is now gone. A child, that could have been born from this guy, destroyed.

It's a fucking KNIFE. Throw your heavy luggage at him, dissorientate him, smash a window and stab HIM with the glass, or throw it at him. There were so many fucking ways they could have stopped this.

Fucking selfish bastards. I guess I feel more for this since I'm a 19 year old guy who travels on a bus everyday to college, but FUCK ME. Lives were ruined because of 37 selfish fucking assholes. The deceased's future son or daughter, could have been the next Jimi Hendrix, the next Jack Nicholson. Something was destroyed forever. Fuck this shit.

So if you saw a guy getting stabbed in the neck repeatedly, and later beheaded, you would "smash a window and stab HIM?" Are you shitting me? In that situation you'd be shitting your pants. Fucking breaking glass is hard as fuck (trust me I tried) and then grabbing jagged shards to somehow "stab" another guy...Fuck you would be slicing yourself more than most. Your "no fear i are save the day" attitude is noble and nice, but there are going to be times where being a hero isn't worth it and you just create more pain and suffering.

And your argument about how "a child that could've been born" is severely flawed. You don't know shit about this guy. He may have never had the intent of having children. Also this guy could've been the next Hitler, "bore" the doomsday to the world as we know it.

In the end, there is nothing those people could've done. The guy was already being repeatedly stabbed in the middle of fucking nowhere. Like someone said earlier is that they could've killed the guy to spare him his misery.

PS: I also take the bus everyday, literally. I work, go to university and "go out" on the transit system in my area. I'm 18, and I'll never feel for this man ever.

[DaneO'Roo]

So if you saw a guy getting stabbed in the neck repeatedly, and later beheaded, you would "smash a window and stab HIM?" Are you shitting me? In that situation you'd be shitting your pants. Fucking breaking glass is hard as fuck (trust me I tried) and then grabbing jagged shards to somehow "stab" another guy...Fuck you would be slicing yourself more than most. Your "no fear i are save the day" attitude is noble and nice, but there are going to be times where being a hero isn't worth it and you just create more pain and suffering.

And your argument about how "a child that could've been born" is severely flawed. You don't know shit about this guy. He may have never had the intent of having children. Also this guy could've been the next Hitler, "bore" the doomsday to the world as we know it.

In the end, there is nothing those people could've done. The guy was already being repeatedly stabbed in the middle of fucking nowhere. Like someone said earlier is that they could've killed the guy to spare him his misery.

PS: I also take the bus everyday, literally. I work, go to university and "go out" on the transit system in my area. I'm 18, and I'll never feel for this man ever.

sorry I like to look for the good in people.

Mr Pope.

Fuck off you pessimist.

It was a KNIFE. Not a .50 cal mounted turret. Just throw some heavy luggage at the bastard, mission complete. Knife wounds are much more survivable than bullets, unless they got the neck or the artery in the thigh.


and just for the record, I WOULD try and fucking help. Obviously to someone as selfish as yourself, looking out for someone else seems like such a choir. Regardless what you may think, 37 people not doing anything against a man with a KNIFE is pure bullshit, and you are too if you support their cowardly bullshit. Whether he was going to die or not, the fact that you tried to save his life speaks volumes about what kind of person you are.

Sorry, but where I live, we look out for people. Losing your life to save another, isn't really wasting yours, is it.

[n00b1n8R]

Depends who's life really.

[Llama Juice]

Damn kids playing way too much GTA. Video games are to blame for this.

Video games are desensitizing Americ..... oh... he was Canadian.

NVM. Carry on.

[Hotrod]

It was a KNIFE. Not a .50 cal mounted turret. Just throw some heavy luggage at the bastard, mission complete. Knife wounds are much more survivable than bullets, unless they got the neck or the artery in the thigh.
I agree with you Dane, except that it would probably have been useless, since he was stabbed repeatedly in the neck, so, he would have most likely died. A lot of people would be too scared to challenge a guy with a knife, especially if you don't know if others will help you or not, they would just save their life, rather than risking their own. Sure, that might not be the right thing to do, but it's the way some people think.

[Botolf]

I agree with you Dane, except that it would probably have been useless, since he was stabbed repeatedly in the neck, so, he would have most likely died. A lot of people would be too scared to challenge a guy with a knife, especially if you don't know if others will help you or not, they would just save their life, rather than risking their own. Sure, that might not be the right thing to do, but it's the way some people think.
This.

It doesn't have anything to do with character flaws or malicious indifference. Sure, you can sit and here and boast about how you'd do this and that and how the entire bus is filled with cowards, but it's another matter entirely when you're sitting there in such a situation. Fear is all it takes to motivate a person into the wrong direction. It's a part of what makes us human.

[Alwin Roth]

WTF... thats crazy

[Apoc4lypse]

tbh you really don't know how you'd react unless you were in the situation, and from the articles description I believe it was a combat knife, and those things are something to be afraid of...

Though I do see how it might have been possible to try throwing a bag of luggage or two at the guy from a distance and then just running away... but I'm not sure that'd do much.

The best bet I think would've been if there was a fire extinguisher on the bus. Could have beat the guys brains our or sprayed em in the face with it when he wasn't expecting it. Even then I don't think the victim would have made it, they said he was stabbed really fast...

This stuff makes me sick though...
:sick:

[Roostervier]

So if you saw a guy getting stabbed in the neck repeatedly, and later beheaded, you would "smash a window and stab HIM?" Are you shitting me? In that situation you'd be shitting your pants. Fucking breaking glass is hard as fuck (trust me I tried) and then grabbing jagged shards to somehow "stab" another guy...Fuck you would be slicing yourself more than most. Your "no fear i are save the day" attitude is noble and nice, but there are going to be times where being a hero isn't worth it and you just create more pain and suffering.

And your argument about how "a child that could've been born" is severely flawed. You don't know shit about this guy. He may have never had the intent of having children. Also this guy could've been the next Hitler, "bore" the doomsday to the world as we know it.

In the end, there is nothing those people could've done. The guy was already being repeatedly stabbed in the middle of fucking nowhere. Like someone said earlier is that they could've killed the guy to spare him his misery.

PS: I also take the bus everyday, literally. I work, go to university and "go out" on the transit system in my area. I'm 18, and I'll never feel for this man ever.
People like you disgust me. Hell yes I would have done something about it if I saw someone getting stabbed. Your logic in thinking Dane or I would be scared shitless is flawed, because you don't know shit about either of us. Just because you'd be a selfish coward doesn't mean that either of us would be. I see your point where being the hero could just cause more pain in some cases, but this wouldn't have been that case. It was a single man, with a knife. Two people could have easily taken him down.

Your argument that Dane's argument is flawed is just as flawed. You made a great point, we don't know shit about that guy, including you. So we don't know if he wanted a child or not, but you can't just say we don't know just to make yourself feel better. And even if he didn't want kids, he could have met a great woman in the future and had a kid anyway. And you didn't even bring up how Dane was completely right about him being a son someone lost, or possibly even a brother. I honestly don't see why you are defending what the passenger's did (or rather, didn't do).

Of course there was something they could have done. Even if the guy had already been stabbed several times, they could have stopped the guy with the knife. For all they knew he'd start stabbing everyone on the bus.

In the end, saying that you would have been a coward yourself in no way justifies cowardice. Don't justify the passengers' inactivity, as it is unjustifiable. And don't tell me you'd feel differently than Dane or I if your son (let's put you in that man's father's shoes) had gotten stabbed. I'd be furious with the people on the bus, because had I ridden it, I would've at least had the balls to try and stop the guy with the knife.

[Disaster]

I agree with you rooster.

[Rob Oplawar]

*reads article*
Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick!

*reads comments*
I'm sorry Dane, but the self preservation instinct is very hard to overcome. It's easy to say "I are selfless hero" when you're sitting on your ass in your warm comfy home. I agree that it would have been better for someone to try to intervene before it was too late, but you can't really blame them for being terrified by an unexpected knife attack and responding to the justified instinct to preserve themselves- after all, they have families too.
I don't know you very well so I won't judge except to say that chances are you would have reacted the same way. Because you're human.



... Or are you?


e: I just realized we're all arguing with Dane, almost attacking his post, when he was embracing selflessness and compassion. We're such kind folk, aren't we? Sorry Dane. It is a very noble sentiment you hold.

[Disaster]

*reads article*
Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick!

*reads comments*
I'm sorry Dane, but the self preservation instinct is very hard to overcome. It's easy to say "I are selfless hero" when you're sitting on your ass in your warm comfy home. I agree that it would have been better for someone to try to intervene before it was too late, but you can't really blame them for being terrified by an unexpected knife attack and responding to the justified instinct to preserve themselves- after all, they have families too.
I don't know you very well so I won't judge except to say that chances are you would have reacted the same way. Because you're human.



... Or are you?
:ohsnap:

[Bastinka]

Had to be a reason for it, really there did.

[Mr Buckshot]

Not really. I currently have access to,

Benelii 12 Gauge Semi-Auto Shotgun
.308 Bolt-Action Carbine
30-30 Lever-Action Rifle
.44 Magnum Desert Eagle Mark VII
.45 ACP Heckler & Koch Mark 23

I can go and pick them out of the closet any time I want. I'm not going to go and take them to a public place and start shooting people though.

Btw, I live in Alberta, the guns aren't mine (yet) and they're registered to my father at the moment. When I turn 18 in September I'll be getting the Deagle, MK 23, and 30-30 transferred to my name.

My point? Anyone with a clean background in Canada can legally get almost* any of the items "required" for a similar incident once they turn 18.

*Fully automatic weapons aren't legally available to ANY Canadian civilians.

On topic, I've been witnessed to a stabbing near my high-school, it didn't result in death because my friends and I (numbering about 8-10) stepped in and "relieved" the stabber of his knife. We then called the cops and waited. Cool thing? None of us ever got charged because the stabber "dropped" his knife according to 11 other people ;).

That's interesting. I live in Vancouver, BC and all the handguns (mostly 9mm pistols and .38 revolvers) recovered from shootings were discovered to be illegally acquired. In most of the urban areas in BC, you can't get a gun in the first place. You want to go hunting, you have to drive to a range, and you can only rent the gun - you can't take it home with you.

The only civilian I know who "owns" handguns is my English teacher...his father, as a WWII vet, has several Colt .45s, a Luger, and a .357 revolver on display on his wall. However he is not permitted by law to keep any of his guns loaded with live ammo.

Back on topic: Who thinks the attacker deserves a death penalty?

[TeeKup]

No one deserves death Buckshot.

[Mr Buckshot]

Maybe you're right, but the 7% GST paid by all Canadians (provincial tax varies) should go somewhere other than funding this guy's life in prison. This sick bastard is going to lounge away in a prison cell with a smile on his face, while many innocent people, who live in conditions that make prisons seem like heaven, continue to beg the government for aid. Think about it. Free food, free clothes, free bed, and all you have to do in return is clean uniforms and rooms and possibly participate in public works. Don't you think there are people who deserve those luxuries 100x more than the killer does?

On a side note, I won't be surprised if the killer gets out of jail legally and walks the streets once again. Over in BC, many judges are lazy bastards who just want to take breaks at Tim Hortons. An insane man who shot and killed a kid with an illegal gun was walking freely in public less than 6 months after his trial.

[Roostervier]

No one deserves death Buckshot.Which is why the man on the bus was beheaded? Even if he shouldn't get the death penalty, he deserves worse than to sit around in prison for the rest of his life.

[TeeKup]

Which is why the man on the bus was beheaded? Even if he shouldn't get the death penalty, he deserves worse than to sit around in prison for the rest of his life.

Then fucking lock him away in a small room away from any human contact.

I think its a bit hypocritical to kill people that have killed people to teach that killing is wrong.

[Roostervier]

Then fucking lock him away in a small room away from any human contact.

I think its a bit hypocritical to kill people that have killed people to teach that killing is wrong.
I can agree with what is in bold. I just don't think that is what's going to happen though. Hopefully it does.

And I sorta see your point, but I guess I was raised with different ideals.

[Bodzilla]

Eye for an eye has been at the heart of some serious and disgusting attrocitys thoughout the course of history, Why go down that path when we already know the outcome.

Solitary confinement for the rest of his life.
70 years in a small dank dark cell with no contact with other humans is all the punishment he'll ever need.

[TeeKup]

I can agree with what is in bold. I just don't think that is what's going to happen though. Hopefully it does.

And I sorta see your point, but I guess I was raised with different ideals.

My parents tried to raise me with the ideal that the death penalty is okay. However something snapped in my mind telling me that it isn't right. I rejected that ideal and cemented my own.

[Roostervier]

Eye for an eye has been at the heart of some serious and disgusting attrocitys thoughout the course of history, Why go down that path when we already know the outcome.

Solitary confinement for the rest of his life.
70 years in a small dank dark cell with no contact with other humans is all the punishment he'll ever need.This. As long as it happens, I can live with that.

[Mr Buckshot]

Yeah, totally solitary confinement is pretty good. He should receive his meals through a slot in his cell door without a word being uttered to him.

I just found out, the killer was a Chinese immigrant like me. If not for all the political issues, he'd have a "great" time in a mainland Chinese prison if he could be deported. Such people don't deserve to exist on Canadian soil.

[Limited]

We'd all like to think that we would step in and help this dude, be the hero and no one gets hurt. Sadly that would pretty much never happen. If I saw a guy getting stabbed once in the chest, and I thought that the whole bus would jump this mofo and help me do a citizens arrest then I may. However if I see him stab him in the neck several times, I'm probably going to be like "ok fuck that". This was a violent, vicious, crazied attack, he much have been psyco, he wouldnt think twice to kill more people...I know that I'd panic and just not risk it.

Like rob said, its a human instinct, you cant help it.

About the death penalty, I sorta agree. The UK justice system is a joke. A man ran over a teenager and her baby, he was drunk and thus it was ruled drink driving and death by dangerous driving. He got 10 years, he was let out after 3. Now hes a free man. Theres been other cases, where no one has died and some one has only done a small offence and got more than 3. Its total BS.

I think death penalty should be introduced in the UK, for people that commit severe crimes, such as shooting a police man, repeatly stabbing some one, etc. Our prisons are already at full capacity, we cant accommidate for them any more, and I'm not going to pay any more taxes so some prick can sit in jail, not having to get a job, not worring about food or water or anything, all paid for by her majesty the queen, AKA general public.

[Mr Buckshot]

I love you, Limited. Not in that way, of course. As I love the UK.

[ilovehalo10]

They Hurt her.

About six years ago in Indiana, Carmen Winstead was pushed down a sewer opening by five girls in her school, trying to embarrass her in front of her school during a fire drill. When she didn't submerge, the police were called. They went down and brought up 17-year-old Carmen Winstead's body, with her neck broken from hitting the ladder, then the concrete at the bottom. The girls told everyone she fell... They believed them.

FACT: About over 9000 months later, 16-year-old David Gregory read this post and didn't repost it. When he went to take a shower, he heard laughter, started freaking out, and ran to his computer to repost it. He said goodnight to his mom and went to sleep, but five hours later, his mom woke up in the middle of the night from a loud noise and David was gone. A few hours later, the police found him in the sewer, with a broken neck and the skin on his face peeled off.

Even Google her name - you'll find this to be true.

If you don't repost this saying "They hurt her," then Carmen will get you, either from a sewer, the toilet, the shower, or when you go to sleep, you'll wake up in the sewer, in the dark, then Carmen will come and kill you.

[Bodzilla]

They Hurt her.

About six years ago in Indiana, Carmen Winstead was pushed down a sewer opening by five girls in her school, trying to embarrass her in front of her school during a fire drill. When she didn't submerge, the police were called. They went down and brought up 17-year-old Carmen Winstead's body, with her neck broken from hitting the ladder, then the concrete at the bottom. The girls told everyone she fell... They believed them.

FACT: About over 9000 months later, 16-year-old David Gregory read this post and didn't repost it. When he went to take a shower, he heard laughter, started freaking out, and ran to his computer to repost it. He said goodnight to his mom and went to sleep, but five hours later, his mom woke up in the middle of the night from a loud noise and David was gone. A few hours later, the police found him in the sewer, with a broken neck and the skin on his face peeled off.

Even Google her name - you'll find this to be true.

If you don't repost this saying "They hurt her," then Carmen will get you, either from a sewer, the toilet, the shower, or when you go to sleep, you'll wake up in the sewer, in the dark, then Carmen will come and kill you.
Fuck off

[n00b1n8R]

I saw that copy pasta on /b/ less than 3 hours ago. Fuck off.

[Bodzilla]

stupid retarded mind fuck shit has it's own thread.

it's stickied >_<

[ExAm]

4ft by 4ft by 4ft cell ftw.

[Terry]

What really gets to me is the fact that one minute this was an innoncent guy sitting on the bus, ready to reach a destination...and the next minute he is a mutilated inanimate object that is being put on display.
You know, I can't even imagine how a family would cope with this. I mean it's bad enough to hear of your son dying, but to be killed so brutally and for no reason.

I really can't think of a punishment of a high enough degree for this guy. Surely locking him up in prison where he gets a nice bed and meals isn't justice at all. Neither would a humane death penalty. When it all comes down to it, this guy just did a terrible, terrible crime to an entire group of friends and family and is basically getting off easy.

It's so easy to sit down and say that the death penalty is hypocritical or whatever when you read articles like this, but I'm sure the people experiencing inexorable grief right now would be thinking differently.

From what some other articles described, the kid was basically a gonner and nothing anyone could do would save him. However, I still doubt they would have tried to help him even if there was hope...not really suprised since that, sadly, is human nature. Self preservation comes first. One must also take into account bystander Apathy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect).

An article states they tried to go back on the bus to do something but the kid was already decapitated.

They reacted pretty well to the situation anyhow and prevented any more casualties, which is a plus, as the one kid was beyond help anyway.

My condolences to the family. :fail:

[Heathen]

Insanity.

[DaneO'Roo]

Everyone else in every other country when heard this story went "wtf, why didn't anyone help him, or at least try, what the fuck??" where as a majority of you americans have been saying "glad I wasn't on that fucking bus LOL".

I now see how 911 happened so easily. "NO U"

I am being very general with that statement btw. I'm well aware there are good and bad people everywhere, but I dunno, it just seems that a majority of the "could have been stopped" shit happens in and around your continent. Well, that which is reported. I guess random beheadings don't happen around here much :/

[The_Wraith]

Everyone else in every other country when heard this story went "wtf, why didn't anyone help him, or at least try, what the fuck??" where as a majority of you americans have been saying "glad I wasn't on that fucking bus LOL".

I now see how 911 happened so easily. "NO U" Because Americans are far too intellectually superior to risk our lives helping someone. This coupled with the fact that our government has manufactured the Bystander Effect virus to control the world's overpopulation.

Join us...

[Botolf]

Everyone else in every other country when heard this story went "wtf, why didn't anyone help him, or at least try, what the fuck??" where as a majority of you americans have been saying "glad I wasn't on that fucking bus LOL".

I now see how 911 happened so easily. "NO U"

I am being very general with that statement btw. I'm well aware there are good and bad people everywhere, but I dunno, it just seems that a majority of the "could have been stopped" shit happens in and around your continent. Well, that which is reported. I guess random beheadings don't happen around here much :/
I don't know about the other guys who you're talking about, but I'm Canadian (generalization failure thar). There's a few reasons why I don't rant against the passengers:

> The "Bystander Effect". It's real, it's been observed countless times, etc, etc, etc. The simple fact of the matter is it would have come into play here, and it can't just simply be ignored.

> I'm as human as any of them. I'm not going to just call them cowards and claim I'd bravely attack the guy with the knife, that'd be disingenuous of me. I would be scared shitless and likely be scrambling to the front of that bus, and I'm not a bad person for admitting it.

[The_Wraith]

> The "Bystander Effect". It's real, it's been observed countless times, etc, etc, etc. The simple fact of the matter is it would have come into play here, and it can't just simply be ignored.

> I'm as human as any of them. I'm not going to just call them cowards and claim I'd bravely attack the guy with the knife, that'd be disingenuous of me. I would be scared shitless and likely be scrambling to the front of that bus, and I'm not a bad person for admitting it.The Bystander Effect isn't any sort of real condition, rather a theorical explanation for human behavior during stressful circumstances. I'm lampooning the fact that people are using it as a cop-out blanket answer as to why nobody decided to help the person. They are using a theoretical answer for circumstance to try and state that anyone would react that way because of the Bystander Effect. It's pure fail. :rolleyes:

[p0lar_bear]

The Bystander Effect isn't any sort of real condition, rather a theorical explanation for human behavior during stressful circumstances. I'm lampooning the fact that people are using it as a cop-out blanket answer as to why nobody decided to help the person. They are using a theoretical answer for circumstance to try and state that anyone would react that way because of the Bystander Effect. It's pure fail. :rolleyes:
It makes sense, though. There more people there are to respond to something, no matter how trivial or how serious, the slower the reactions will be.

I see it all the time at the store I work at; hell, I've done it too. Someone will call for pretty much anyone on the sales floor when there are many people around, and nobody will respond because they think someone else will get it. It ends about 10 or so repeated calls later until the manager gets on the walkie and asks for someone to get it. Then three people walk over each other's broadcast to respond. :lol:

[Bodzilla]

Everyone else in every other country when heard this story went "wtf, why didn't anyone help him, or at least try, what the fuck??" where as a majority of you americans have been saying "glad I wasn't on that fucking bus LOL".

I now see how 911 happened so easily. "NO U"

I am being very general with that statement btw. I'm well aware there are good and bad people everywhere, but I dunno, it just seems that a majority of the "could have been stopped" shit happens in and around your continent. Well, that which is reported. I guess random beheadings don't happen around here much :/
now i've had enough of this dano.

you've been FAR too stupid and arrogant with your rants and assumptions over the last couple weeks, you need to sit down, calm the fuck down and take another look at what your posting before you post.
and above all think before you actually click that button.

it's all well and good to have an opinion, but to attack others because it clash's with yours rubs me the wrong way.
The mods and admins might not be prepared or willing to say something, but i am.
Sit the fuck down.

[The_Wraith]

It makes sense, though. There more people there are to respond to something, no matter how trivial or how serious, the slower the reactions will be.

I see it all the time at the store I work at; hell, I've done it too. Someone will call for pretty much anyone on the sales floor when there are many people around, and nobody will respond because they think someone else will get it. It ends about 10 or so repeated calls later until the manager gets on the walkie and asks for someone to get it. Then three people walk over each other's broadcast to respond. :lol: So this happens, every time? Without fail? Enough to where your manager doesn't get upset and just says "Oh Bystander Effect, You got me again!" and doesn't blame anyone for not taking individualistic action in the situation?

In the end it's just another excuse for inaction. Group mentality isn't a law that people have to abide to, it's just a phenomenon that often occurs. Doesn't mean you get a safe ride out of blame.

[t3h m00kz]

It's a fucking KNIFE. Throw your heavy luggage at him, dissorientate him, smash a window and stab HIM with the glass, or throw it at him. There were so many fucking ways they could have stopped this.

Personally I would have planted my fucking heel into his face. Repeatedly.

What a sick fuck, I hope he gets the death penalty. If he goes to jail he'll just shank his inmates.

[CN3089]

What a sick fuck, I hope he gets the death penalty.

What? We're a civilized country, we don't have capital punishment here.

[n00b1n8R]

:WINPOST:


o/

[t3h m00kz]

What? We're a civilized country, we don't have capital punishment here.

True. But still, you don't just put someone in jail for stabbing some random 19 year old person 50 times, then beheading the dead body, showing off the head, then carving up the body in front of a bus full of bystanders.

That shit's just fucked up.

Honestly disgusting. I haven't been this disturbed by something in a good while.

[n00b1n8R]

Right, because keeping him in solitary confinement for the rest of his natural life (and beyond :o) is totally not going to fuck him over royally.

[ExAm]

Like I said, 4ft by 4ft by 4ft cell.

Give the fucker the cramp from hell. For life.

[t3h m00kz]

Ahaha, come to think of it that works too

At least he won't try to murder his inmates and show off their bodies to the guards

[Botolf]

The Bystander Effect isn't any sort of real condition, rather a theorical explanation for human behavior during stressful circumstances. I'm lampooning the fact that people are using it as a cop-out blanket answer as to why nobody decided to help the person. They are using a theoretical answer for circumstance to try and state that anyone would react that way because of the Bystander Effect. It's pure fail. :rolleyes:
I realize it isn't an actual medical condition, dude :rolleyes:.

And the reason people are bringing it up is because it's fitting to the situation. If there was one other person on the bus instead of throngs, things may have played out differently. If the one guy sees that responsibility to help falls on him and him alone, that changes everything.