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Arteen
September 25th, 2006, 07:04 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_001.jpg

For over a year now, I've been working on this map, which I call Snowtorn Cove. I've been working on it in secret this whole time, so this is most certainly the first time anyone has heard of it or seen it. I declare it the best-kept secret ever. :cool:

I'll be trying to finish it up as quickly as possible (seriously this time, because I can do it all myself), since of course I will have no problem texturing it myself. The above is a current picture of the map. I'm still tweaking the geometry and I would appreciate if people would be willing to look over the map and point out any spot where the geometry should be touched up (ignore the smoothing errors, since there isn't any smoothing).

I hate the stench of a rotting carcass.

TheGhost
September 25th, 2006, 07:24 PM
Hey Arteen... I remember a build being much further along than this..?

Emmzee
September 25th, 2006, 07:24 PM
I saw this, like, 3 months ago.

Will there be anything different from Wartorn, other than the snow and ice?

thehoodedsmack
September 25th, 2006, 07:32 PM
Textures are...repetetive. Try to work them out so they fade nice and easily.

Zeph
September 25th, 2006, 07:33 PM
Hey Arteen... I remember a build being much further along than this..?

My guess is that he's doing what I'd do and show old stuff, then post updates making it look like he's a really fast mapper. :\

But lol tiled bitmaps.

Boo Diddly
September 25th, 2006, 07:40 PM
arteen, I'm very good at pointing out tiny problems. give me a map and ill find a problem within 10 minuts, guarenteed *well, almost...*

Arteen
September 25th, 2006, 07:41 PM
Hey Arteen... I remember a build being much further along than this..?
Yeah, but the geometry on it needed some work. I wouldn't say it was much further along. Besides, it will probably only take me a few hours to texture the level to the point that it was before, and this time I'll be able to do it all better. It's easier to start back at the point I am at right now than to try in work in all the changes into the other build. If I had some volunteers to do a quick run through of the map to check for geometry problems, I can get make some serious progress on this map and actually get it done.

An example of some of the work done on this current build that didn't exist in the previous is the blanket of snow on top of the level.


I saw this, like, 3 months ago.

Will there be anything different from Wartorn, other than the snow and ice?
Read up =) (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=42711)

Yeah, it's not just an aesthetic change, though there are lots of them in the map. The bases are slightly different, in that they each have a ramp on one side and a tunnel path on the other, which will change gameplay in that aspect a bit. More importantly, the teleporter exits are reworked. They are in caves, like in W4rtorn, but the exits are raised to deter camping. I also added another ladder to the map, alongside the ladders in WTC and W4rtorn. There are other features to the map that slightly affect the gameplay as well.


Textures are...repetetive. Try to work them out so they fade nice and easily.
Textures are irrelevant in this build. As soon as I get the geometry looked over by some volunteer testers, I can work on the texturing.


My guess is that he's doing what I'd do and show old stuff, then post updates making it look like he's a really fast mapper. :\
If I were to do that, I'd post this picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/stcwip045.jpg
But lol Gmax.

Stealth
September 25th, 2006, 07:44 PM
Wow, anthor one, I hope you make it a bit more then what we see, but it looks nice.

TheGhost
September 25th, 2006, 07:57 PM
Hey! Make it for Halo 2 Vista!

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
September 25th, 2006, 08:09 PM
Hey! Make it for Halo 2 Vista!Translation = Hey! Make it higher poly with more detail!


;)

Arteen
September 25th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Hey! Make it for Halo 2 Vista!
I'm trying to prevent that, actually. I want to get this finished before Vista is released. :fail:

I will, of course, port it to Halo 2 Vista when the time comes. :woot:

TheGhost
September 25th, 2006, 08:18 PM
Oh okay, yeah, then do that :p

PlasbianX
September 25th, 2006, 08:56 PM
Hmm.. i think it needsmore big forerunner structures that can be seen ehind sheets of ice in the walls, and on the ground. Like some tubes or something glowing.

Arteen
September 25th, 2006, 09:20 PM
Hmm.. i think it needsmore big forerunner structures that can be seen ehind sheets of ice in the walls, and on the ground. Like some tubes or something glowing.
Heh, I'll have to save that for the H2V version because the CE version has enough polys as it is. :D I think H2 can handle intersecting pieces of bsp, so I'll be able to significantly cut down on the poly-count of STC and I'll be able to add more detail.

rossmum
September 26th, 2006, 01:03 AM
That would be awesome, stuff frozen in ice... <3

Rescudo
September 26th, 2006, 08:39 AM
If I had some volunteers to do a quick run through of the map to check for geometry problems, I can get make some serious progress on this map and actually get it done.
I can do that. :)

Rosco
September 26th, 2006, 12:23 PM
I can do that. :)

You said mb to me a while ago.

I want to know! :(:(

PlasbianX
September 26th, 2006, 03:20 PM
Id be more than happy to come look for bugs. During most of jahrains betas, id point out almost every single thing thats flawed, or needs work. :)

Rescudo
September 26th, 2006, 03:21 PM
Rosco and I couldn't find any geometry errors, I think... there was one with a strange shadow by the sniper tower, but we were unsure whether or not that had to do with geometry. =/

Rosco
September 26th, 2006, 03:47 PM
Rosco and I couldn't find any geometry errors, I think... there was one with a strange shadow by the sniper tower, but we were unsure whether or not that had to do with geometry. =/

What about that wierd vehicle barrier near the river? :|

PlasbianX
September 26th, 2006, 03:50 PM
What about that wierd vehicle barrier near the river? :|

Thats probably a phantom face :/ They suck to have to remove them.

Rescudo
September 26th, 2006, 03:51 PM
Oh, forgot about that one...

Arteen
September 26th, 2006, 04:26 PM
Thats probably a phantom face :/ They suck to have to remove them.
If Halo 2 Vista's editing kit has this problem, heads will roll (figuratively, of course). From the responses I've gotten and the few fixes I've made (which hopefully will remove those phantom faces), I should now be able to start texturing this beast! Here's hoping that this won't take over a year! Honestly though, this shouldn't take too long. The quality of the map in the picture I posted belies how close the map actually is to completion.

Boo Diddly
September 26th, 2006, 05:15 PM
phantom faces >.< oh i hated the one that i had. I could walk through it but vehicles and projectiles couldnt. I had to rebuild that whole area almost from scratch to get rid of it.

Why does it happen?

wow, rescudo. I must have been alot more picky... and i did not notice that barier, where is it?

Phil
September 26th, 2006, 06:27 PM
Tt Ftw. ;)

Rescudo
September 27th, 2006, 07:44 AM
phantom faces >.< oh i hated the one that i had. I could walk through it but vehicles and projectiles couldnt. I had to rebuild that whole area almost from scratch to get rid of it.

Why does it happen?

wow, rescudo. I must have been alot more picky... and i did not notice that barier, where is it?
If you're talking about STC, it is by a frozen, small river near... red base, I think. Near where there was a shotgun was in WTC3, and you could hide inside a small cave behind the river.

Elite Killa
September 27th, 2006, 03:06 PM
I can't wait to play it! And hello to everybody that knows me from the CMT forums! I just registered today!

TheGhost
September 27th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Hey, and welcome to the forums =)

Elite Killa
September 27th, 2006, 03:11 PM
Thank You TheGhost. And how is the progress of Snowtorn Cove? Any new content besides snow and ice?

Rescudo
September 27th, 2006, 03:20 PM
I couldn't help but notice that there is a second path beyond the middle area, something I didn't see in the old STC public beta. I think it's a good idea, will probably make the flag easier to capture. :)

Arteen
September 27th, 2006, 03:57 PM
I couldn't help but notice that there is a second path beyond the middle area, something I didn't see in the old STC public beta. I think it's a good idea, will probably make the flag easier to capture. :)
? Are you talking about the tunnel, because that was blocked in the old beta, and will be blocked in the final. TT is going notice the tunnel is slightly different this time. =)


And how is the progress of Snowtorn Cove? Any new content besides snow and ice?\
STC is rather close, texturing-wise to the old beta right now. Then I need to work on portals, which will result in fps not too different from STC_beta, unfortunately. After that, it's just population, which is easy. I'll also need to get the stuff like the TC monument in as well. It hopefully won't take too long.

STC is more than just a snowy &#230;sthetic change. Most influential to gameplay will be the less-campable teleporter exits, which are like WTC4's, but raised to prevent enemies from accessing it too easily. The changes to the bases will also be significant, along with the added ladders and ice.

Rescudo
September 27th, 2006, 04:05 PM
Oh... why have it there, if it is blocked? Secret room?

Arteen
September 27th, 2006, 04:09 PM
Oh... why have it there, if it is blocked? Secret room?
Æsthetics, of course. Who said anything about a secret room though? I guess you'll just have to try exploring it! :D

Elite Killa
September 27th, 2006, 07:34 PM
Sorry to ask, but do you have an estimate on the release of STC?

Boo Diddly
September 27th, 2006, 07:44 PM
no sooner than tommorow, nor any later than next millenia. =&#254;

Arteen
September 27th, 2006, 08:56 PM
Sorry to ask, but do you have an estimate on the release of STC?
Well, I was expecting this map to be released 11 months ago, but that didn't quite work out.

Emmzee
September 27th, 2006, 09:11 PM
When it's finished, go back in time and release it then!

Elite Killa
September 27th, 2006, 09:22 PM
When it's finished, go back in time and release it then!

lol

Nic
September 27th, 2006, 11:23 PM
Arteen it sucks.

Stop now.

But kekeke, i liked that trick you showed me in Grove when you were driver and I was gunner ^.^ Im spreading the knowledge =]

And zomg emzz, thats a great idea.

Boo Diddly
September 27th, 2006, 11:29 PM
that came out of nowhere...

Nic
September 27th, 2006, 11:30 PM
Yea...

I must comment Arteen's map though. It will suck like a ruby's awesomeness.

And OMFG, dont use um furtunecity for hosting mb.
PM me and ill give you a subdomain.

Boo Diddly
September 27th, 2006, 11:43 PM
I'm just wondering, how would it suck?

Nic
September 27th, 2006, 11:50 PM
Meh, too many ads. It just doesnt look that nice.

Boo Diddly
September 28th, 2006, 12:03 AM
i mean how would snowtorn cove look?

*i pmed you btw about that...*

Nic
September 28th, 2006, 12:14 AM
Oh.

I was using the oposite, hoping people would thing the oposite, which is actually not he oposite.

Um yea.

Boo Diddly
September 28th, 2006, 12:16 AM
uhhh....?

rossmum
September 28th, 2006, 12:36 AM
drugs are bad you are bad

Back on topic pl0x.

Rescudo
September 28th, 2006, 07:51 AM
Æsthetics, of course. Who said anything about a secret room though? I guess you'll just have to try exploring it! :D
"Øk". By the way, I heart your use of the Æ - do you actually have it on your keyboard, like me? :p


But kekeke, i liked that trick you showed me in Grove when you were driver and I was gunner ^.^ Im spreading the knowledge =]
ok spread 2 me plz


I'm just wondering, how would it suck?

Like a ruby's awesomeness... meaning the opposite.:eyesroll:

Nic
September 28th, 2006, 08:11 AM
Get on xfire sometime and Ill show you.
But now back to Snowtorn cove

I hope youll be able to make the water/ice really cool.

Rescudo
September 28th, 2006, 08:18 AM
Okay, I'm on Xfire now. Answer please. :p

Elite Killa
October 12th, 2006, 02:54 PM
Will you be adding the snow hog into STC? I like the way it opens and closes the doors. Will the transport hog come back too?

Nic
October 12th, 2006, 09:41 PM
Yea the transport hog is one of the best.

Plus that hog with the opening doors is cool too.

Rescudo
October 13th, 2006, 09:57 AM
Okay, I'm on Xfire now. Answer please. :p.

Arteen
October 13th, 2006, 02:02 PM
Will you be adding the snow hog into STC? I like the way it opens and closes the doors. Will the transport hog come back too?
The Snow Hog will be in, but the Transport Hog will not. The way I see it, the THog is WTC4's special hog, and the SHog is STC's special hog.

I've almost finished the skinning of the level, but I haven't worked on this in a while. I've been working on remaking Tension for CMT, as CMT needs some more small maps, and Tension is such a fun small map. Besides, with Tension, I essentially only need to make 1/4 of the map anyway, due to its symmetry. When I finish that side project, I can finish up STC, the eternal WIP.

rossmum
October 13th, 2006, 02:21 PM
TENSION! OMGYES!caps...

Arteen
October 15th, 2006, 10:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_002.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_004.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_005.jpg
STC WIP pictures

The cliffs still need to be UVed. Then I need to work on portaling. After that, I need to fix up some shaders and populate the map.


TENSION! OMGYES!caps...
:) and for you...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/tensitywip_007_small.jpg
Early Tensity WIP picture

rossmum
October 16th, 2006, 12:47 AM
Mmmm, Tension remake. :wub:

Timo
October 16th, 2006, 12:50 AM
Tension looks awesome :D:D:D:D:

p0lar_bear
October 16th, 2006, 12:57 AM
KOTH nights on Tension were the shit.

Vive le Bunghole.

rossmum
October 16th, 2006, 12:57 AM
So many happy games on that map long ago when it was first released, and CE was a great game... /tear

So many grenade killtaculars... playing against people I'd one day meet on GBX and in =EP...

Stormwing
October 16th, 2006, 01:25 AM
KOTH nights on Tension were the shit.

Vive le Bunghole.

KOTH was only half the fun. Race on Tension ftw~ Tensity looks amazing!

rossmum
October 16th, 2006, 02:35 AM
I remember when finding the secret room was fun, and not a fanboy obsession... just something to do with friends to find out what was there. Happy days :(

Rescudo
October 16th, 2006, 07:30 AM
:O Nice. Me wants new beta version.

Arteen
October 17th, 2006, 09:34 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_008.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_010.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_011.jpg
It's getting very close to being releasable. I just need to UV the cliffs, fix a few errors, and refine the populating.

Tension looks awesome :D:D:D:D:
Thanks! I'm glad you all like the new look.

TeeKup
October 17th, 2006, 09:42 PM
<3

TheGhost
October 17th, 2006, 10:04 PM
I like it. When are you gonna do another beta? =)

rossmum
October 17th, 2006, 10:10 PM
I like it. When are you gonna do another beta? =)
Which should obviously include me. :D

Arteen
October 17th, 2006, 11:06 PM
I like it. When are you gonna do another beta? =)
I don't know. I have enough problems already just trying to play online, and I hate trying to organize betas (which is why many, if not most of my maps never had betas).

Rescudo
October 18th, 2006, 10:53 AM
Downloading beta version now... :)
Looks awesome.

[gx]Shadow
October 18th, 2006, 01:38 PM
Looks awesome, Arteen!

PlasbianX
October 18th, 2006, 08:09 PM
/wrists


Beta D:<


Just kidding. Gotta earn my trust first.

rossmum
October 19th, 2006, 12:58 AM
Shadow;5994']Looks awesome, Arteen!
Is awesome. I love it.

Arteen
October 20th, 2006, 03:59 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_015.jpg.

mined
October 20th, 2006, 05:00 PM
Brrrrrr! *shivers* looking real slick, Arteen.

PlasbianX
October 20th, 2006, 05:47 PM
I could whip um some tags that could be like a "peeing" gun. And you could pee in the snow. Basically id add arc to a gun with a constant flow of yellow decals and they stay on the ground :P

Arteen
October 20th, 2006, 06:31 PM
I could whip um some tags that could be like a "peeing" gun. And you could pee in the snow. Basically id add arc to a gun with a constant flow of yellow decals and they stay on the ground :P
There is no way I would ever put a pee-gun in one of my maps. :eyesroll:

PlasbianX
October 20th, 2006, 08:50 PM
Heh, oh well :P

Arteen
October 21st, 2006, 12:16 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_016.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_018.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_019.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_020.jpg

Rescudo
October 21st, 2006, 03:46 AM
Wow, sheckzay! http://www.diskusjon.no/style_emoticons/default/dribble.gif


I could whip um some tags that could be like a "peeing" gun. And you could pee in the snow. Basically id add arc to a gun with a constant flow of yellow decals and they stay on the ground :P

That would be cool as an easter egg! :p

Skyline
October 21st, 2006, 01:54 PM
Did you change anything on the snowhog so that it won't slip as much on ice as a normal hog would?

Boo Diddly
October 21st, 2006, 02:06 PM
oh, just to make sure, did you put a player clip between the 2 cliff edges to keep people from going out there?

rossmum
October 21st, 2006, 11:09 PM
Cliffs out to sea need more variation, so you can have mass Hog races on the ice out there without the cliffs looking so fake.

Arteen
October 21st, 2006, 11:13 PM
oh, just to make sure, did you put a player clip between the 2 cliff edges to keep people from going out there?
Yeah, I put one in.


Cliffs out to sea need more variation, so you can have mass Hog races on the ice out there without the cliffs looking so fake.
Well, I don't know how you'd have hogs out there in the first place. >_>


Did you change anything on the snowhog so that it won't slip as much on ice as a normal hog would?
Yea, it doesn't slip on the ice. Ice like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_021.jpg

More random pics from the latest beta build:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_023.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_024.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_025.jpg

rossmum
October 21st, 2006, 11:41 PM
Well, I don't know how you'd have hogs out there in the first place. >_>

I got one out there :O


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_021.jpg

It's the little touches like that that make this the best winter-ish map ever.

Rescudo
October 22nd, 2006, 12:25 PM
*pictures*
http://www.dickersonparkzoo.org/images/logos/I_m_lovin__it.jpg

Arteen
October 22nd, 2006, 07:56 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_026.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_027.jpg
Better tunnels

PlasbianX
October 22nd, 2006, 08:01 PM
I keep forgetting to ask for the next beta ._.

Random
October 22nd, 2006, 08:05 PM
I keep forgetting to ask for the next beta ._.

^:lol: If you remember that you keep forgetting to ask, what is stopping you from pming him right now instead of making this post :rolleyes:?

Beta please :x

[gx]Shadow
October 22nd, 2006, 08:29 PM
I'll bug Arteen for a beta if I ever get some free time >.<

Boo Diddly
October 22nd, 2006, 10:14 PM
i love that clear ice. maby you should do that with the ice in the cove?

TheGhost
October 22nd, 2006, 10:24 PM
Suggestion: Don't tile the texture on the top so much. The more tiled it is = more lag.

Stealth
October 22nd, 2006, 10:49 PM
Suggestion: Put more hiding places in the medil of the map, That way People with the flag can have a chance at a good Run and have a chance to make it to the over Base, make it easier to play, not much of a war zoon in the medil of the map.

Btd69
October 22nd, 2006, 10:55 PM
i love that clear ice. maby you should do that with the ice in the cove?

And have a frozen cortana in there!

I'm still put off by the ground bitmap.. The brown looks.. wrong.

Boo Diddly
October 22nd, 2006, 11:00 PM
ya, the brown kinda looks more green then brown

Stealth
October 22nd, 2006, 11:44 PM
now that you point it out, yes it dose, that will have to be fixed, if you're going to have some over color then just brown in the bitmap, put in Black Grey, Red, or even dark brown, that way it looks nice.

p0lar_bear
October 23rd, 2006, 01:13 AM
That cubemap (or the shader tint) ain't really cutting it. The sky in snowtorn appears to be dusk/early dawn, so why is the ice screaming light blue? O_o

Ice color iside, everything looks drop-dead sexy.

What would lag less; simply tiling the cliff-tops less, or making a shader with a 1-pixel white bitmap for the top?

Boo Diddly
October 23rd, 2006, 03:25 AM
i'm an excelent portaler if you need any suggestions. *portaling in my level is insaine to say the least. not to mention how i only had inches to thread some of those general portals through and all the exact portals I have to reduce the lag.*

Arteen
October 23rd, 2006, 04:05 PM
Messing with ice
This:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_015.jpg
To this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_029.jpg
Better, worse, needs more work?

This: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_031.jpg
To this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_030.jpg
Better, worse, needs more work?

PlasbianX
October 23rd, 2006, 04:18 PM
Top pic: Liked the blue more. 2nd is a bit more purple.

Bottom pic: Perfect.

Random
October 23rd, 2006, 04:45 PM
The better two are

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_015.jpg

and
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_030.jpg

Stealth
October 23rd, 2006, 04:48 PM
I say a bit more blue, still need to work on the Ground color.

Arteen
October 23rd, 2006, 05:35 PM
Could someone explain more clearly what is wrong with the dirt path?

[gx]Shadow
October 23rd, 2006, 09:00 PM
It looks fine to me.

StankBacon
October 23rd, 2006, 09:45 PM
Suggestion: Don't tile the texture on the top so much. The more tiled it is = more lag.

o_O

really?

i have tiled a texture so much it was tiny, and it never effected performance....

rossmum
October 24th, 2006, 01:21 AM
Shadow;6887']It looks fine to me.
Agreed.

Btd69
October 24th, 2006, 04:38 AM
Could someone explain more clearly what is wrong with the dirt path?

I dunno how to explain it, but it just looks, well, basically like its been done in 5 seconds.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
October 24th, 2006, 06:19 PM
Could someone explain more clearly what is wrong with the dirt path?It doesn't look as brown/dirtish as it should. It looks a little green from the pictures I (as well as others) can see.

Dole
October 24th, 2006, 06:29 PM
Dirt usually isn't very brown when it's covered in a thin layer of frost.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
October 24th, 2006, 07:01 PM
But it isn't green.

TheGhost
October 24th, 2006, 08:59 PM
Arteen, perhaps you could save the ground texture as a jpg and upload it? I'd like to see it. Remember the ground texture I made?

http://www.h2vista.net/files/images/snowtorn02.jpg

This one was designed after the look of the Sidewinder ground texture.

Arteen
October 24th, 2006, 11:26 PM
I must be the only one who doesn't see the green dirt or the purple ice. =\
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_032.jpg
Current ground

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_033.jpg
Current ground bitmap

I remember your ground texture, but it wasn't accurate enough to the mesh after all the changes I made.

rossmum
October 25th, 2006, 01:05 AM
Looks fine to me...

Rosco
October 25th, 2006, 05:53 AM
Looks fine to me...

I agree, and who would be staring at the ground in the middle of a fight? :lol:

I say it's fine. :)

Arteen
October 25th, 2006, 12:08 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_034.jpg
I get this strange blue smear when I run radiosity 1. Does anyone know why? It doesn't do this with radiosity 0.

[gx]Shadow
October 25th, 2006, 12:46 PM
Looks fine to me...
Same here.

demonmaster3k
October 25th, 2006, 08:01 PM
awesome ground bitmap...
HOW DO YOU MAKE STUFF LIKE THAT!?
(sry, never been good at terrains)

p0lar_bear
October 26th, 2006, 03:45 AM
Odd color streaks happened to Lightning when he radiosity'd Coagulation. Try clicking the "simple parametrization" flag in the ground shader and see if that helps.

Arteen
October 26th, 2006, 10:28 AM
Odd color streaks happened to Lightning when he radiosity'd Coagulation. Try clicking the "simple parametrization" flag in the ground shader and see if that helps.
Meh, it's already checked. No quality 1 for me, then. :(


awesome ground bitmap...
HOW DO YOU MAKE STUFF LIKE THAT!?
(sry, never been good at terrains)
Photoshop, with some help from MMFSdjw.

Boo Diddly
October 26th, 2006, 01:00 PM
maby try changing the detail level under the radiosity properties in the shader?

that looks like it follows the underground tunnel...

edit: try changing the polies a little bit there, occassionally I get strange radiosity errors like that and just moving the mesh a little helps

also looking at the ground bitmap, it is a bit green

p0lar_bear
October 29th, 2006, 06:22 AM
Meh, it's already checked. No quality 1 for me, then. :(Maybe try turning it off?

Emmzee
October 29th, 2006, 06:35 AM
That ground looks sexy.

Arteen
October 30th, 2006, 10:31 PM
Okay, Snowtorn Cove should be ready for public release Thursday or Friday.

SnaFuBAR
October 31st, 2006, 03:09 AM
i like. ^__^

LlamaMaster
October 31st, 2006, 03:29 PM
Wootage! <(0_o)>

Arteen
November 1st, 2006, 08:24 AM
If all goes well, I will release the final around 9:30 pm Thursday.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_038.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_039.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_037.jpg

Dole
November 1st, 2006, 12:09 PM
The ground looks good, but I'm not liking the stretchy textures on the ravine walls.

TheElf
November 1st, 2006, 01:16 PM
I have never mapped and never will, but I will voice my opinion:

Who really cares how perfect or smeared or streached a map is. If it is fun and and weapon sets and all placements work well....... I mean it is about having fun playing is it not?

Dole
November 1st, 2006, 02:19 PM
Aesthetic and conceptual improvement is the reason people don't look forward to the hype of a beta that looks like a clay render.

ImSpartacus
November 1st, 2006, 03:20 PM
I have never mapped and never will, but I will voice my opinion:

Who really cares how perfect or smeared or streached a map is. If it is fun and and weapon sets and all placements work well....... I mean it is about having fun playing is it not?

fair enough, but theres a certain amount of pride and rep that can come with making a map that is fun to playand looks damn good, so youll find it very common for maps to take ten years, but look absolutely sexy when theyre finished.

i think this mapll have both points pretty well covered.

LlamaMaster
November 1st, 2006, 03:43 PM
The ground looks good, but I'm not liking the stretchy textures on the ravine walls.

They look fine, who really gives a crap?

Boo Diddly
November 1st, 2006, 04:09 PM
http://sandstorm.halomoddingsite.com/0c89bf40.jpg
so if it looks like this its fine?

Personally I would not like to "look" at a level with horrible textures. I'd rather have a good map with good graphics than an awsome map with absolutely no time spent in doing textures.

Stealth
November 1st, 2006, 04:29 PM
Ya, now that I have a new computer with a good gfx card, I'm looking for more maps with better gfx in them.

TeeKup
November 1st, 2006, 04:35 PM
They look fine, who really gives a crap?

You have no sense of design or art. Get Out.

LlamaMaster
November 1st, 2006, 05:35 PM
You have no sense of design or art. Get Out.

Sure I do, but I don't want to make arteen go through more work then he needs too.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 1st, 2006, 06:31 PM
Sure I do, but I don't want to make arteen go through more work then he needs too.Hitting a couple keys to re-do the cliffs is hardly more work.

Dole
November 1st, 2006, 08:57 PM
They look fine, who really gives a crap?
Obviously Arteen gives a crap, otherwise the map would have been out two months ago instead of tomorrow.

TheGhost
November 1st, 2006, 10:19 PM
Hey, looking great. Can't wait till release!

Arteen
November 2nd, 2006, 02:20 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_042.jpg
Yes, it's blocked off. Trust me. =)

Dole
November 2nd, 2006, 02:39 PM
Arteen, I want you.

BobtheGreatII
November 2nd, 2006, 06:27 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/zstc_042.jpg
Yes, it's blocked off. Trust me. =)
Invisible Collision?

Kiwi
November 3rd, 2006, 12:19 PM
What would be awesome is if right behind those boulders was a bottemless pit.

Arteen
November 3rd, 2006, 12:48 PM
Snowtorn Cove release thread (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showthread.php?t=304)