Oh, by the way

[rossmum]

...Joining up, had my first interview and aptitude test (blew it out of the water) last week. Waiting to hear back on my next assessment. I dropped out of uni because honestly, fuck study, I can't stand it anymore. I want to do something that's fun and useful, not some boring course which I only chose to shut my parents up anyway.

Assuming all else goes well (medical has me a little worried, but the rest should be fine), I'll be off to ARTC at Kapooka for 4 weeks before coming back up here to C Coy., 2/17 Bn., Royal New South Wales Regiment. I'm not going full-time yet (otherwise I'd be going RAR), but I might later on. For now I want to keep plenty of free time to work on my 3D stuff and obviously game.

So yeah, if I vanish for a month, that's where I am. Probably won't be for a while yet, though, the app process is a bit tedious.

[Kornman00]

lol, pvt. rossmums

[rossmum]

hwo2shotrifle

You should've joined the MC, you'd get to come play wargames with us at Shoalwater Bay next year

[Kornman00]

um yeah, I'm not a born-to-kill killer, I have better things to do with my time than make stuff go peew-peew-peew, also there is way too much testosterone in the that branch for me kthx. I should have joined the Air Force TBQH

[rossmum]

From what I've heard they're packing guys off to Iraq themselves, so perhaps not

[Kornman00]

Well, of course, you can see all the branches in Iraq (save for the coast guard, but who knows). The US deploys to the damnedest places, no matter the branch. I think I would rather deploy to Iraq than Africa though :hist101:.

[Hotrod]

Make sure you make nice "pew pew" sounds at people :)

[Apoc4lypse]

... yea, I met some dude who joined the marines, he got discharged for something idk the story. All I know is he was one FUCKED UP individual after he came back... XD (mentally, his mentality is so weird)

[PenGuin1362]

fuck you ross! If I didn't asthma I would be in the marines. Back in july I was going to join Recon Marines until I got tested for asthma, then talked to my recruiter and he was like yeah...... I hope you shoot your sgt. in the foot mister :mad:

[Limited]

woot for crappy pay, treated like shit, placed in the worst areas of the world and possibly die?

I know a few people who have joined the forces and dropped out. One guy went to Yemen and learned Arabic, he is a fitness nutjob and loved all the marines training, loved being proactive, dropped out just before the end, because he is a pasifist, he never did want to shoot any one. Hes now in the jungle climbing trees and helping scientists collect info on chetta's

Dont just join the army because "yeah dont want to learn/get a job", its more than just going, you WILL have to kill people. Unless you go into the specialist areas like technology or something, by the sounds of it you will be just a regular ass joe being a footsolider.

[Kornman00]

Actually, the Aussies my friends met while in Afghan made more money than they did in a month, every two weeks. So yeah, crappy pay? Don't think so.

And pay in the american military isn't all that crappy either, when you factor in the benefits you get while in then also when you get out. Then you also get some pretty good entitlements while deployed to some countries. And further more, depending on the country, it could make your pay tax free (the catch: if you make more money than the SMA in a pay period, only that amount will be tax free)

[n00b1n8R]

Enjoy slogging it on foot while the flyboys get to have the real fun. :downs:

[rossmum]

woot for crappy pay, treated like shit, placed in the worst areas of the world and possibly die?

I know a few people who have joined the forces and dropped out. One guy went to Yemen and learned Arabic, he is a fitness nutjob and loved all the marines training, loved being proactive, dropped out just before the end, because he is a pasifist, he never did want to shoot any one. Hes now in the jungle climbing trees and helping scientists collect info on chetta's

Dont just join the army because "yeah dont want to learn/get a job", its more than just going, you WILL have to kill people. Unless you go into the specialist areas like technology or something, by the sounds of it you will be just a regular ass joe being a footsolider.
I'm not an idiot, I know exactly what I'm signing up for. One of my great-grandfathers fought in France in WWI, my paternal grandfather in Normandy in WWII, and my maternal grandfather in Papua New Guinea, also in WWII. I grew up over there in the UK, I've been through Europe and seen all the old battlefields and the cemeteries. Don't think I'm joining up just because I don't want to go to uni or get a regular job (although both of those are true, just not my only reasons). Our Army Reserve conducts aid missions, assists after natural disasters, and defends the country in the event it is directly under threat of invasion. tl;dr no they aren't going to ship me out, no I'm not doing it just because it's 'cool' or whatever, and no I'm not likely to be doing any killing and nor to I want to, although I could probably handle it if I absolutely had to.

Point of interest, though. The Army Reserve cannot be deployed outside Australia unless we consent to go ourselves or it is a matter of utmost urgency (i.e. when it looked like the Japs would take Port Moresby in WWII). In any case, even joining the regulars wouldn't be a ticket to Ghan or Iraq, because our presence there is now almost solely SAS and 4RAR on ops, and 1RAR with the reconstruction forces. Our regulars are pulling out.


Enjoy slogging it on foot while the flyboys get to have the real fun. :downs:
I wanted to be a fighter pilot in the RAF as a kid, but my eyesight isn't exactly 20/20 and I'm pretty sure it has to be 20/20 and uncorrected to get in as a fighter pilot.

[Huero]

Most people can't physically be pilots, so I don't think he really gives a shit.
damn it ross don't post right before me >:C
it's rude

[rossmum]

Oh, and on pay: all our pay is tax free, we get benefits if we do deploy, and yeah, it's pretty decent money. It should be enough to keep me afloat at any rate, which is really all I give a toss about moneywise. It'd be nice to be able to afford all the newest games and a new PC to run them on, but I'd rather focus on keeping the roof over my head and food in my stomach first.

[PenGuin1362]

it has to be 20/20 and uncorrected to get in as a fighter pilot.

Correct

[Limited]

Oh, so your thinking of something like the TA rossmum, not the actual army.

kornman, it may well be all swimmingly when your serving, US and UK have major problems, vets arent getting cared for. You gotta think long term when you join army.

£12,000 ($25,000) isnt alot of money, I dont know exactly how much we get, but my friend mentioned that to me when he inlisted, now its fucked and got sent over to Iraq.

To get a decent pay, a pay thats liviable off you need to be highly ranked or in a special type of job, I some one in the SBS, every single day he could easily die, james bond style missons.

Some one I know was gona be a pilot, he opted to be a commerical pilot instead. But yeah you need perfect vision.

[quiksilver2k1]

get some irl skills

[SnaFuBAR]

I was supposed to be a marine sniper and then bush got elected and i was all fuck that lol

[Apoc4lypse]

I'm not an idiot, I know exactly what I'm signing up for. One of my great-grandfathers fought in France in WWI, my paternal grandfather in Normandy in WWII, and my maternal grandfather in Papua New Guinea, also in WWII. I grew up over there in the UK, I've been through Europe and seen all the old battlefields and the cemeteries.

Lets just say the "service" or what ever you like to call it has changed quite a bit over the years.

I'm not saying it'l be a bad experience but prolly not what ur expecting.

not to mention, I dont like the idea of potentially being told what to do by a Goverment being run by president bush...

plus Iraq is prolly the dumbest war weve been in next to Vietnam.

My concearn isn't necesarily the service itself, but the crazies in charge of it nowadays and our corrupt gov.

[n00b1n8R]

Yeah, I don't want mr Bush to tell me what to do either. :saddowns:

[Bodzilla]

Seriously guys, i love how your preaching to rossmum about the army and the conditions.
when in reality, it's fucking rossmum your talking to.

lawlfest.

[rossmum]

Lets just say the "service" or what ever you like to call it has changed quite a bit over the years.

I'm not saying it'l be a bad experience but prolly not what ur expecting.

not to mention, I dont like the idea of potentially being told what to do by a Goverment being run by president bush...

plus Iraq is prolly the dumbest war weve been in next to Vietnam.

My concearn isn't necesarily the service itself, but the crazies in charge of it nowadays and our corrupt gov.
Good thing I'm not joining the US Army then

Our gov't. might like to suck up to yours, but they're not quite as war-happy.

[Corgy]

i too wish to die for shitheads

[Kornman00]

kornman, it may well be all swimmingly when your serving, US and UK have major problems, vets arent getting cared for. You gotta think long term when you join army.

£12,000 ($25,000) isnt alot of money, I dont know exactly how much we get, but my friend mentioned that to me when he inlisted, now its fucked and got sent over to Iraq.

To get a decent pay, a pay thats liviable off you need to be highly ranked or in a special type of job, I some one in the SBS, every single day he could easily die, james bond style missons.
I get paid just fine. The gov't provides a place for me to live without making me pay rent, medical facilities (though some aren't so great), a walmart type place called a PX\BX where I can buy stuff tax free. I get over a grand every two weeks (if I was deploying I'd probably be getting almost two). This is me-money, I don't have to use any of it to pay for gas\electric\water bills or life insurance, etc. The new GI bill is the best version since this administration was allowed in office too.

Officers are over paid and in many cases I've seen, pampered. Its the only way the gov't can keep them from getting out IMHO.

[rossmum]

Yeah, sounds like ours. Going rate for an undeployed rifleman (full-time) is a little under one and a half a fortnight, and it's all tax free with everything free while on a base. Reserves get paid a full day's rate for 6hrs., and half for 3.

[Cortexian]

So I don't know where Rossmum lives but it seems he's European or Australian or something... Join the SAS Russmum, do eet.

It's not hard, I promise!

[Limited]

He lives in Aussie, Freelancer.

Well, I just hope its something you really want to do, and will enjoy ross, good luck :)

[rossmum]

So I don't know where Rossmum lives but it seems he's European or Australian or something... Join the SAS Russmum, do eet.

It's not hard, I promise!
In the event I do go full-time later on down the line, I'll probably try out for either it or 4 RAR, but I doubt I'll get in. It's pretty fucking hard.

[Bodzilla]

bleh stupid shitposts!
i was halfway through makign a penis joke before i realized what i was doing!

:emo: right now.

[rossmum]

have you been into the booze m8

give me some

[Bodzilla]

it's 12:30 on a sunday rummy!

[Kornman00]

it's 12:30 on a sunday rummy!
Do you know where your children are?

[Bodzilla]

KM, i'm having such a great time that atm i dont even know if i have children.
:gettinjiggywitit:

[Pooky]

Lets just say the "service" or what ever you like to call it has changed quite a bit over the years.

I'm not saying it'l be a bad experience but prolly not what ur expecting.

not to mention, I dont like the idea of potentially being told what to do by a Goverment being run by president bush...

plus Iraq is prolly the dumbest war weve been in next to Vietnam.

My concearn isn't necesarily the service itself, but the crazies in charge of it nowadays and our corrupt gov.

Listen to this guy... trying to explain the military to ross :lol:

[Bodzilla]

beat you to it pooky :)

[rossmum]

I'll save the forums a new thread.

My medical was a while ago - it got delayed to fuck because they lost my medical forms - and I passed, though I was a little under the weight cutoff. I've put some on since (I can't cook and I simpy eat whatever takes the least effort when I'm hungry, as opposed to proper meals, though granted I'm almost constantly hungry). They then lost my new address, but finally I'm going to do my fitness test tomorrow (hopefully I'll pass, little worried but then again I was about the medical, too) and enlistment on Saturday. Following that, I start parading with my unit and will be off to Kapooka at some point within the next six months.

[Sel]

Don't leave us rossy :(

[Limited]

I'm starting to agree with you, being an academic is really starting to suck balls. I cant use any of my thesis because its mine, I have to back everything up with references and shit. In the real world I dont have to prove every thing I do.


Anyways, good to hear you passed. Whats next call of action?

[rossmum]

Fitness, enlistment, report to unit, parade for a while, and then training. Once I get back from basic training (4 weeks solid), I move on to IET which comes in blocks and is closer to home. After that, I'm a fully-fledged soldier and paid as such.

[Syuusuke]

I reread this entire thread...

Well, I wish you the best of luck, I think this thread was kinda my motivation for ROTC in college, but I already decided against it.

[TVTyrant]

Sounds cool Ross! What are the Aussies issuing as a sidearm these days? I've heard the Browning Hi-Power, but I've also heard the H&K USP. And their using a variant of the A3 AUG as their standard issue rifle, right? What are the scope specs? And are they issuing barrel slung grenade launchers down there?

[rossmum]

Browning HP. The USP is for the SAS, I believe.

Standard-issue rifle is from the AUG series, it varies from one unit to the next but they're all license-built as they Austeyr F88 at Lithgow SAF. 203s are issued but not everyone gets one (for obvious reasons); most common optics are the standard 1.5-power sight integrated into the carry handle, but things like ELCANs and ACOGs are fairly common too. SAS get the M4 (actually I believe it's the Diemaco, but I can't remember for certain).

[TVTyrant]

Do you guys still use the .303 at all? Or have all the full calibers gone to the 7.62 NATO?

[rossmum]

7.62 NATO. The last .303 rifles were phased out during the 50s and 60s, from what I remember, when the L42A1 replaced the No.4 Mk.1 (HT).

[TVTyrant]

NOOOO The rimmed cartridges of lore are all gone! :( Are you guys using the Challenger II, or is there a new sexified Aussy tank?

[rossmum]

There aren't even enough Challies to go around the British Army, let alone ours http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-cawg.gif

We use a mixture of Leo 1s and M1A2s. Personally I wish we'd got the Leo 2 instead, the M1 is totally useless in a country as large as this. It's enough of a logistical nightmare to keep it fuelled up as it is.

[TVTyrant]

Wow. Are the majority M1A2s, or are they Leopards?
And the Abrams does have some severe problems, thats true. But it will rape just about anything else. I'd bet on it versus anything but the Challenger II, and maybe the LEO2.

[rossmum]

I think we still have more Leos, but I'm going Infantry so I can't say with any kind of certainty at all.

The Chally is pretty much a god tank, there are just absolutely fuck all in service which kind of completely negates how good they are :|

[TVTyrant]

I say bring back the 152mm of the 1960s myself. The bigger the shell, the more annoying to load, and the better the infantry get at just shooting rifles. See how clever I am?

[Cojafoji]

...Joining up, had my first interview and aptitude test (blew it out of the water) last week. Waiting to hear back on my next assessment. I dropped out of uni because honestly, fuck study, I can't stand it anymore. I want to do something that's fun and useful, not some boring course which I only chose to shut my parents up anyway.

Assuming all else goes well (medical has me a little worried, but the rest should be fine), I'll be off to ARTC at Kapooka for 4 weeks before coming back up here to C Coy., 2/17 Bn., Royal New South Wales Regiment. I'm not going full-time yet (otherwise I'd be going RAR), but I might later on. For now I want to keep plenty of free time to work on my 3D stuff and obviously game.

So yeah, if I vanish for a month, that's where I am. Probably won't be for a while yet, though, the app process is a bit tedious.
Congratulations. You have more balls than 95% of the population; though your country could use some cleaning (policy wise).

[rossmum]

Yeah, really not getting the whole "unhindered internet access is for pedos" vibe Conjob Conroy's been putting out...

Just got back from my fitness test. I smashed it up to about level 6 of the shuttle run (needed to get to 7.5), I got so dehydrated I felt like I was about to vomit and/or pass out. Yes, I'm an idiot for not drinking enough water, but at least I know I can do it now and I'm going back next week. Once that's done, my enlistment's been put back to the original date, the 16th.

There were about 20 others there, mostly around 20-25 though we did have a bloke there who looked to be in his mid-30s. They were all really great people, and really supportive, which was nice.

[PenGuin1362]

you better get to the gym more often or they're going to beat your ass till it's a soft meat flap.

[StankBacon]

good luck.

[Segnaro]

Good luck watch out for IED's.

[Warsaw]

NOOOO The rimmed cartridges of lore are all gone! :( Are you guys using the Challenger II, or is there a new sexified Aussy tank?

WRONG SIR.

7.62x54R (meaning Rimmed, not Russian as most people would believe) is still around, and has been and will be for a long time...

[PenGuin1362]

$10 gets me a box of 20 7.62x54R rounds, non corrosive. they're still going strong.

[TVTyrant]

WRONG SIR.

7.62x54R (meaning Rimmed, not Russian as most people would believe) is still around, and has been and will be for a long time...
I wouldn't consider that a cartridge of lore though. Its not exactly legendary for anything other than having an inconsistent bullet diameter...

[rossmum]

Wrong again sir, it's basically Russia's counterpart to the .303... they've been using it for over a hundred years...

[TVTyrant]

Yeah, but the Brits and Russians develope shitty cartridges anyway :smug:

[rossmum]

uhhh

*looks at 5.56*

*sees how shitty it is*

*sees how it got the Enfield EM-2 cancelled and lumped the Brits with the shitty SA-80*

sir,

[TVTyrant]

*Sees the 7.62x51 NATO*

*Sees the .50 BMG*

*Sees the 20x102mm*

*Sees the 120mm Tank gun*

*Sees the .300 Win Mag

*Looks at an .303 with its rimmed hull, sloping sides, and .311 diameter bullets*

*Looks at the Ross and just how bad it fails*

*Looks at the 7.62x39 with its rainbow trajectory and fail powder burning efficiency*

:smugoff: By the way Im just having fun

[rossmum]

*looks at who makes most of the ammo used by western militaries*

sup fn herstal, how's it going over there in belgium

[TVTyrant]

Ross, just because its manufactured in Belgium doesn't mean it was developed there. Case in point.... Uh, every single one of those? The 5.56 for example was actually useful in American hands with a 55 grain bullet going 3200 fps. According to soldiers in Vietnam (including my uncle Dave and my uncle Neil), when the M-16 worked, it would kill very quickly, because of bullet yaw, and produce devastating wounds. Then, when the US lobbied for its adoption by NATO, the fucking Dutch and Brits shitted it up with their 62 grain armor piercing bullet that makes little holes in people instead of coming apart like a good bullet should.
Although the Brits did develop the .338 Lapua, which is a pretty good cartridge. Still doesn't make up for all the cartridges they didn't develope though.

[rossmum]

I've heard a lot of disparaging remarks about the M16 from ours, who were mainly issued with the L1A1. Sure it's useful taking down armoured soldiers, but it's absolutely bloody useless against fleshy targets at close range because it has bugger all stopping power. That's why even the US is so keen to ditch it, it simply doesn't put the bad guys down in time to prevent them firing back or running. It certainly did fuck shit up, there's no arguments there, but the problem was that since it didn't actually put people down, it was absolutely terrible for that environment. Ask any of our soldiers who served partly during the L1A1's reign and partly during the F88's, and they'll choose the L1A1 nearly every time. If experience in dealing with our vets has taught me one thing, it's that a whole group of them saying the same thing can't be wrong... for a quick example, check the spoiler (put it in spoiler tags because it's a serious tangent, but it's still an example...):

WWII RAAFies will tell you the Kittyhawk was better than the Hurricane and on par with the Spitfire Mks. I through V. Having been into planes since I was a kid, I was highly skeptical of this until another guy from the IL-2 community found a letter of complaint from Allison describing how the RAAF was running their P40s' engines at about twice the normal HP rating at sea level, with a good deal more boost. The end result was a hotrod P40 faster than a Hurricane and about as fast as a Spitfire V, except more ruggedly built. Therefore, RAAF Kittyhawks were better than the legendary Spitfire for a time (the two-stage supercharger in the VIII swung the balance back in the Spit's favour, but we used the supposedly obsolescent Kittyhawk right up until 1944 with considerable success). So when push comes to shove, they were exactly right.

The Brits, meanwhile, were developing the EM-2 which was chambered for .280 if I recall correctly. It was an incredibly good rifle, with ticks in all the right boxes; then in came the US, insisting point-blank that 5.56 be adopted as the NATO standard. As soon as it was, the EM-2 project was binned, the SA-80 project was embarked on, and anyone who's ever so much as seen a genuine L85A1 let alone fired it can tell you it was a bloody horrible rifle. Sure, it was very accurate, but the mag fell out of its own accord, the furniture would melt when exposed to some chemicals routinely used in things like cam cream and insect repellent, and on the whole, it was flimsy and poorly-built. Its only truly saving grace was its accuracy and the fact it was issued with a SUSAT as standard for frontline troops. Eventually HK fixed most of the problems but that doesn't change the fact that the development of 5.56 directly led to the British Army being stuck with a godawful rifle for two decades while a far superior design was discarded entirely, and then in true US military style, they realised what an idiotic decision it was and want to reverse it (don't even start me on the Sherman Firefly, a perfect example of this kind of attitude). 5.56 kills alright, it just doesn't kill as well as you'd want it to when some nutter is running towards you with his finger on the trigger.

I could go on all day about why various rounds are over-hyped rubbish, but I don't really want to... suffice to say that if they'd gone with .280 as standard and issued the EM-2, things would be very, very different, and not in a bad way.

All of that said, I won't knock the AR-15 family. They might have their vices, but they're good rifles in their own way. Unfortunately 'their way' kind of passed back in the 40s and 50s, when enemies fielded large conventional armies and actually made some sort of effort to armour themselves.

[Cortexian]

In relation to some of the first posts in this thread... In the CF fighter pilots are allowed corrected (laser eye surgery or similar) eyesight, but it must be 20/20 when all said and done.

Come back to cool country!

[Longshot]

Haven't read through the whole thread yet, just about to head to bed, but as I mentioned earlier in the Airsoft thread, I was enlisted on May 20 in 2008, currently at 22 FD BTY (Artillery unit), and I love it. Had a terrible, terrible time at Kapooka though. Who knows, you may enjoy it. The Reserve was the greatest decision I ever made.

Good luck!

[Corndogman]

You people and your guns :rolleyes:. No just kidding though, guns are awesome but you guys sure know a lot.

Anyways, good luck ross. I have a friend in the Army National Guard, he's off to basic training this summer, then he's got one more year of high school. Perks are great, he gets $20,000 when he gets out of school, and college payed for plus housing expenses. Best part is he most likely wont get shipped out anywhere.

[TVTyrant]

Ross, I already told you that that's because they changed the bullet design. They went from a low weight, very frangible bullet to a mid weight, armor-piercing bullet, and now its fail on soft targets. The US army had originally designed it for use against the Vietcong who did not wear armor, and were very thin in body build (basically the same people we're all fighting now). According to soldiers reports, the guns were pieces of shit, but when they worked, they very quickly put enemy soldiers down.


During the 1970s, NATO members signed an agreement to select a second, smaller caliber cartridge to replace the 7.62 mm NATO. Of the cartridges tendered, the 5.56 mm was successful, but not the 5.56 mm loading (M193 Ball) as used by the U.S. at that time. Instead, the Belgian FN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabrique_Nationale) SS109 loading was chosen for standardization. The SS109 used a heavier bullet with a steel core inserted, fired at a lower muzzle velocity for better long-range performance, specifically to meet a requirement that the bullet be able to penetrate through one side of a steel helmet at 600 m. Some believe that this requirement has made the M855 less capable of fragmentation than the M193 as discussed below.

By the way, just found out about Australian action in Vietnam. What were they issuing?

[rossmum]

L1A1 (basically a FAL produced under license at Lithgow) and the odd M16A1.

I've heard an account of a VC kid running a good 150yd flat-out after an M16 was emptied into his chest/stomach, from the section's M60 gunner who was behind the pointman. Virtually his whole mid/lower torso was quivering goo, but it didn't actually knock him down. The older rounds were less terrible at stopping people, but obviously they still weren't particularly great at it. At the end of the day, our blokes generally preferred their L1A1s to anything, for the simple fact it could be relied on to put Charlie on his arse where the M16 wouldn't. 5.56 isn't flat-out terrible, but it's not the calibre I'd choose if I had the choice and had to go into an unknown area fighting unknown hostiles.

[TVTyrant]

L1A1 used 7.62 ;)

And the British .280 was a cool idea indeed, but I've seen the shells they wanted to use, and their gross as far as angles and cartridge design go. Plus, all the pics I've seen had round nosed bullets

[rossmum]

I know they used 7.62, the point was that they were better for knocking people down than the M16. ;)

[Cortexian]

7.62 is an awesome caliber okay?

That is all.

(I use 7.62 for hunting, :iia:)

(I want an M14 for hunting, :saddowns:)

[TVTyrant]

I use the .30-06 for hunting, it does anything you'll ever really need. And the 7.62 is based in a case originally based off the 06'.

[Neuro Guro]

-

[TVTyrant]

I've heard an account of a VC kid running a good 150yd flat-out after an M16 was emptied into his chest/stomach, from the section's M60 gunner who was behind the pointman. Virtually his whole mid/lower torso was quivering goo, but it didn't actually knock him down.
Aiming would be the solution to this Rossy. One or two hits to the ribs would be much more effective than 10 to the stomach. The stomach is just a terrible area to hit overall.

[rossmum]

It wouldn't stop the adrenaline from kicking in, though, which is the problem. The whole issue is that it kills, it just doesn't knock them down - and it's not all that rare for someone to be technically dead, yet adrenaline keeps them going just long enough to do something nasty. If they're already on the floor, not even adrenaline can do much.

[TVTyrant]

I say we go with the Halo 2 BR and its .375 diameter bullets, that are somehow place withing an inch of each other with a three shot burst. Three 250 grain bullets+2300 fps=Guy on the ground.

[rossmum]

Yeah, that'd work...

[TVTyrant]

Now I need to figure out how to fit 36 round in that tiny magazine...

[rossmum]

Interdimensional storage pocket? Like Gordon Freeman keeps his guns in?

[TVTyrant]

Lulz, yeah.

[rossmum]

PASSED

THAT

SHIT

enlisting 13th of this month wootels~

[Cojafoji]

It wouldn't stop the adrenaline from kicking in, though, which is the problem. The whole issue is that it kills, it just doesn't knock them down - and it's not all that rare for someone to be technically dead, yet adrenaline keeps them going just long enough to do something nasty. If they're already on the floor, not even adrenaline can do much.
yes, but it has such a higher mortality rate. plus, if the spinner hits the knee, or any other joint, it pretty much renders the person immobile/dead.

also, congrats on your enlisting. serve proudly :D.

[Warsaw]

I say we go with the Halo 2 BR and its .375 diameter bullets, that are somehow place withing an inch of each other with a three shot burst. Three 250 grain bullets+2300 fps=Guy on the ground.

9.5x53mm...that's the BR55 caliber.

[=sw=warlord]

Interdimensional storage pocket? Like Gordon Freeman keeps his guns in?
Put a couple of challenger tanks in a tardis and you're ready to go.

[rossmum]

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/BILD0625.jpg

that, sirs, is a certificate of enlistment, and also conclusive proof that my mother is useless with any form of technology including digital cameras

reporting to unit on tuesday

[MetKiller Joe]

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/BILD0625.jpg

that, sirs, is a certificate of enlistment, and also conclusive proof that my mother is useless with any form of technology including digital cameras

reporting to unit on tuesday

Good luck.

[ultama121]

Nice.

Hope you have a good experience with this.

[TVTyrant]

Hopefully you can get them to change calibers Ross. Its up to youuuuuuuuuu.

[Rorschach]

You should've joined the MC, you'd get to come play wargames with us at Shoalwater Bay next year
Holy fuck I will see you there, baby.

Been keeping contact with a recruiter since October, just got back from a PT pool today, taking ASVAB monday, joining in a month (birthday), shipping off to Parris Island in August or September.

[Warsaw]

9.5mm=.375. Learn to calculate MMs in calibers.

TVT, you moron. I was stating what the whole caliber was, not trying to correct you. L 2 comprehend.

[Heathen]

Nice posture lancer.

[StankBacon]

?

[Sel]

I want to join the panzer elite :(

Also, didn't you have black hair before?

[rossmum]

No, my hair's a sort of dark dirty blonde, but I am nocturnal so most recent photos of me were taken at night and/or shortly after a shower.

Got my uniform last night... undershirt, shirt, pants, socks, boots, and a boonie. So comfy I didn't bother to change back until I got home :haw: