Halo 3: ODST

[DEElekgolo]

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http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=ournextgame

Discuss.

[ultama121]

OHSHI--
xCzT3RRs-9k

[JDMFSeanP]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

Cool.

[Zeph]

lol

[Zeph]

I swear bungie stole my Euclid design document.

[Pooky]

If they're going to try to turn Halo into a tactical shooter, I'm not buying it.

[jngrow]

I FUCKIN LOVED THE MUSIC.

Honestly, if the game embodies the mood of every second of that score... I'll like it. And the rainy mood is hella cliche, but I haven't really seen it in a game in a while, and it could still be awesome.

[jngrow]

If they're going to try to turn Halo into a tactical shooter, I'm not buying it.

I hope that it won't. I don't want any commanding aside from MAYBE a few simple commands. For some reason, and even though this idea is kinda random unlikely, I imagine a COD4 flow/Halo 3 style/Crysis action-ey-ish (not the shitty parts, but that parts when you are running around being epic) game.. Sort of. Crap, that was weird confusing. Whatever. But yeah I agree with you Pooky.

[legionaire45]

Trailer was amazing.

New desktop background time :D.

[TPE]

Actually I wish that it is a nerfed tactical shooter. Like have the D-pad to tell your squad mates to shoot shit up, stfu, stop driving, gtfo, and etc. It would sorta kill some of the issues with Halo's allied AI.

But being so squishy like an OSDT is kind of a con. Like 2 spikes from a spiker then your ded.

[Rob Oplawar]

Looks cool.

[JDMFSeanP]

BTW: Silenced smg.

Wait does anyone remember that image from pre halo 3 that had weapon customization that was assumed fake as halo would never do that.

MBMBMBMB.

[The_Wraith]

There was a red-dot sight on the SMG...or what would pass as one now since it's 500 years in the future.

[beele]

I can has recon now? :p

on a more serious note. Look awesome, can't wait till we get to see some actual game footage.

[Lex1337]

My question is will I have to buy it as a CD or DLC.

[The_Wraith]

My question is will I have to buy it as a CD or DLC.
Most likely CD as it's supposed to be stand-alone.

[Kornman00]

Well, Halo 3 does have support in the engine for multiple campaigns, and this is being labeled as "Halo 3", so I'm going with the idea that there will be both DLC and DVD components.

[Timo]

I want to play it now, not in fall '09 D:

[Botolf]

I hope it sticks with this mood and kind of SI interaction. I'll be kind of annoyed if the SI doesn't appear at all in this.

[Bodzilla]

Halo: Start another fight!

[Kornman00]

Was he viewing those brutes in full spectrum vision or something :raise:?

[Advancebo]

Lol maybe the game will come out around the same time has Halo 3

[Bodzilla]

needs moar bloom

[p0lar_bear]

Was he viewing those brutes in full spectrum vision or something :raise:?

Yeah, it seemed like a cross between light amp and thermal or something. :awesome:

I'm actually rooting for the idea of a nerfed tactical shooter tbqh; the game sort of needs a change of pace. Being an omnipotent war machine was fun the first time, but not really the third time.

[Kornman00]

And something else to ponder...

We no longer have shields. Back to the health bar mechanics?

[Arteen]

Game details:

Game Details

This new chapter in the Halo universe includes the following:
All-new campaign content: The Halo 3: Recon campaign is an intriguing side story that takes place during the terrifying events leading up to the Master Chief’s return to New Mombasa in Halo 3. Experience the fate of Earth from the brand-new perspective of a special forces ODST (Orbital Drop Shock Trooper), adding a unique outlook and new gameplay elements to the events that unfold in the trilogy’s finale. While the feel of this new chapter greatly resembles that of previous Halo experiences, Halo 3: Recon will require you to employ more elements of stealth and cunning than ever before.
Prepare to drop: Known for their courage, valor and, at times, insanity, ODSTs are among the fiercest UNSC soldiers, priding themselves on being the first unit deployed into hostile situations. While not as large or supernaturally gifted as their Spartan comrades, these "Hell Jumpers" more than compensate with their ferocious attitudes and unwavering nerve.
Expanded multiplayer collection:No Halo experience would be complete without groundbreaking multiplayer content, and Halo 3: Recon gives fans more of what they love. With exclusive new maps and expanded Forge options, Xbox LIVE® Gold members will find more multiplayer content than ever before with Halo 3: Recon.
Ever-growing community options: Enjoy all the great Halo 3 technological innovations, including Saved Films, screenshots, Campaign Scoring, and four-player co-op. All of the new multiplayer maps fully support the Forge editor, offering endless gameplay customization possibilities.http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2008/1008-reconpreview.htm


Actually I wish that it is a nerfed tactical shooter. Like have the D-pad to tell your squad mates to shoot shit up, stfu, stop driving, gtfo, and etc. It would sorta kill some of the issues with Halo's allied AI.
I was hoping H3 would have something like that. I hate when my allies try to be a hero when all I need them to do is stay back. Something like Mass Effect's Attack That Enemy, Follow, Go There, and Stay There commands would be nice.


Was he viewing those brutes in full spectrum vision or something :raise:?
Halo 3 Prime: Corruption? Sounds good to me. :D


And something else to ponder...

We no longer have shields. Back to the health bar mechanics?
Honestly, that would be an awful decision. I hate making a mistake in a FPS then being forced to beat the entire next area with 7/100 health or kill myself and try again. I like how games such as Halo and Gears allow me to play the game battle-by-battle, and not have to reset constantly whenever I take significant damage. I'm expecting/hoping that they'll just use a regenerating health system.

[flibitijibibo]

And something else to ponder...

We no longer have shields. Back to the health bar mechanics?
Oh god I hope so.

One thing I was kind of hoping for was a gap filler for the Chief as well. I know it'll be in a graphic novel, but it would still be cool to play.

Just thought of something. How will versus multiplayer work? I know it won't be spartan fights, so what they do with ODST versus will definitely be interesting. (Only reason I'm saying versus is because I'm assuming Recon's campaign will be multiplayer optimized.)

[Choking Victim]

nobody go to recon.com :(

[DEElekgolo]

The part when it was raining reminded me of a section from the halo 2 gameplay trailer. Also I think the stand alone CD will come with all the maps that recently came out including mythic.

I wanna see how the ODST hud looks like.

Lol recon.com

[Needles]

I don't really care. It's probably not coming out for PC, and I'm not getting a game console after I spent $1,000 on a PC from dell (that wasn't even that good :().

[Con]

This explains the skulls...

[JDMFSeanP]

Well, Halo 3 does have support in the engine for multiple campaigns, and this is being labeled as "Halo 3", so I'm going with the idea that there will be both DLC and DVD components.

And I'm assuming with the update and how you can can transfer games to HD that you will be able to take disk and put the game on your HD.

[ICEE]

Really hope it is a DVD, I just ran out of XBL subscription.

[Sever]

Well, you'll have a whole 'nother year to get on that, eh?

[Siliconmaster]

Damn, this is exciting. I'm always good for more campaign material. :D


Halo: Start another fight!
And rofl. I remember that video. So true.

[Kornman00]

This explains the skulls...
Which is just more evidence to point to a DLC type deal (with a very, very high probability of a disk with the expansion crap on it seeing as how they would want to milk this) since it's part of the update to the exe.

[MetKiller Joe]

On the one hand, I agree with Kornman00 in saying that this should just be a campaign DLC/DVD, but on the other hand, I wish that those graphics were in-game, which would require a better graphics engine.

Still, I might just be shooting the wind because I only downloaded the low resolution version. Plus, I am at school, and the glare from the cafeteria windows is killing the video.

[ICEE]

Really glad bungie is doing this. Halo 3 was a big dissapointment, but with expansions to the campaign, it really leaves a lot of possibilities open for them. Who knows, this could be the first of several expansions.

also,
I'm totally going to make that suppressed SMG for CE.

[dazman23]

Wow I loved that video.

Looks like there will still be an AI helping you as shown at the end of the video with the signs.

[Rob Oplawar]

Well I can't help but think of what a gigantic download it would be. It would be at least a few gigabytes. I'm wondering how many people would be willing to wait a few hours for the game to download and then have to choose between it eating up a good chunk of their hard drive or having to re-download it in order to play again.
Maybe they'll offer both options.
Myself, I'd much prefer a disk.
e: not to mention the fact that they'd be reducing their market to people with both hard drives and XBL, and there are a ton of people with XBoxes who don't meet those criteria. Knowing Microsoft, I doubt they'd willingly restrict their market like that.
fake ee: I just remembered the Halo 2 multiplayer disk, so it's not at all unprecedented for them to do both. One way or another, it'll be available on disk.

[Sever]

I'm just making a hopeful guess when I say that it'll be a disc containing the six new Mythic multiplayer maps along with the campaign, whereas also you can just download the maps (probably before the game's release) separately. Just a theory though.

[JDMFSeanP]

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Disk verified IMO. I think that's from TGS? Found it on neogaf.


The stand-alone expansion, set to release in fall 2009, extends the award-winning Halo® 3 (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/h/halo3/) experience with hours of new campaign excursions and multiplayer gameplay.

From xbox.com article. Stand alone as in like not a dlc addon to halo 3?

[Sever]

Yeah, so nix what I said about the Mythic map pack being included with it...

However, on a good note, that means that it will have its own whole new multiplayer experience, and that we don't have to wait for Fall '09 for new H3 DLC (ie: the Mythic map pack).

[Lex1337]

Disk verified IMO. I think that's from TGS? Found it on neogaf.



From xbox.com article. Stand alone as in like not a dlc addon to halo 3?
I thought stand alone means you don't need Halo 3 to play H3R.

[Agnaiel]

I thought stand alone means you don't need Halo 3 to play H3R.

That's correct.

And, damn, I can't wait for this. I don't care whether it's an FPS or squad based, but it looks awesome.

[Heathen]

So next year? Ftw.

[Corndogman]

Looks like there will still be an AI helping you as shown at the end of the video with the signs.

I think that was meant to be more ironic. Those were just traffic signs that happened to be playing randomly at the time, since the system was all screwed up. I don't think that was necessarily SI helping him out, although I'm sure the SI will play a big part in the campaign. I'm expecting things like SI telling you were to find the other ODST's to hook up with them a few levels in, but the first level(s) you will be by yourself, which definitely adds to the element of "tactical shooter".

[SnaFuBAR]

I think it was the SI guiding him. The SI appeared to shut the screen off when the brutes appeared.

E: not when the brutes appear, but when the phantom appears. Once the brutes have passed, the screen comes back on.

[Hotrod]

I wonder what this will do to Halo 3's MP? They can't use the Halo 3 MP maps, since they are designed for Spartans, who can run and jump much more than ODSTs. I'm really liking this so far, by the looks of it. However, it will be much different, without dual wielding (except maybe pistols), and no shields.

[Darqeness]

Melee's aswell will probably have to be overhauled as well as flipping vehicles (if there are any) and support weapons.

Interesting...very interesting...

[ICEE]

The weapon set may be different as well. I can see it now: H3RMT (halo 3 recon mapping team). lol

[DaneO'Roo]

I can see it now: H3RMT (halo 3 recon mapping team). lol

Urgh I fucking hope not.

[killer9856]

Lol.

That SMG was badass.

[FlyingStone]

Ugh....
...

[DarkHalo003]

This is awesome stuff. Funny thing is, I thought about this sort of scenario a month ago out of the blue. I guess it's a common idea.

The only concern I have is a shield system(if you want to call it that), but the SMG looks awesome. It reminds me of Marathon Infinity's SMG, which was an awesome weapon. Also, being a marine, think of all of the potential abilities Covies can use against you, like being picked up and thrown by brutes. This will be really something.

[Pooky]

Urgh I fucking hope not.

Don't even bother hoping, you know there will be. :)

[Heathen]

I predict our new hero being a naive newbie with a troubled past and a heart of gold who only wants to help others.

E: Or a total asshole.

[itszutak]

Goddamn I hope that that AI turns out to be neurotic/have negative intentions/try to lead the main character into a trap.

It'd be kickass to kill an AI (Kind of like what happened in Marathon 2, but less being asked to by the AI)

[Hotrod]

Well, as far as I can see, the AI seems to be a good fellow that wants to help people.

But look at how 343 GS turned out to be...

[Advancebo]

thast because the AI was human made, and has no physical form

[Warsaw]

That fucker...

Game looks interesting, title sucks (again). I am hoping it will be definitely darker, and more tactical than the other Halo games. However, Bungie saying that it will deliver more of the Halo experience doesn't quite have me convinced...

[Con]

SI must hate having his cameras destroyed...

Maybe SI helps you progress through the levels, I kind of got that impression from "keep right", "proceed with caution", and the arrows.

[Heathen]

I saw that Cons and I was thinking of old side scrolling games with the "Please Continue" arrow lol.

[343guiltymc]

Well, as far as I can see, the AI seems to be a good fellow that wants to help people.

But look at how 343 GS turned out to be...
I thought the SI was a dumb AI...

[Hotrod]

I don't really know much about SI, so he most probably is a dumb AI... I'll go check it out.

[Heathen]

Less than Smart AI...

[Donut]

just throwing this out there, who would like cod style aim-down-sight shooting? i think it would look pretty badass with the battle rifle, and i cannot imagine it with the carbine or that new smg thing

[Heathen]

I could. I like it but idk. Some people would take it badly.

DIS AINT NO COD BAW, DIS HALO.

[MetKiller Joe]

COD-style right-trigger-down-sight-shooting? That does not fit with the fact that the HUD of every soldier displays a targeting reticule on the visor.

[Pooky]

Some people would take it badly.

DIS AINT NO COD BAW, DIS HALO.

Because it would infact be like that.

Fuck sightline aiming.

[Arteen]

I assume that the main character is "ONI Recon one-eleven" from the radio chatter during Tsavo Highway?

[Con]

not necessarily, there would be many recon groups, for example the ones shown at the beginning of outskirts on the roof.

[jngrow]

title sucks (again)

Huh? Halo 1, 2 and 3 were bad titles? Yeah, they aren't horribly original, but... I guess you could be referencing "Combat Evolved"

[Kornman00]

at least they didn't name it like, "Halo: Cousin Ed" to further add confusion to HaloCE :downs:

[Cortexian]

http://lancersedge.exofire.net/pics/Superintent.png

http://lancersedge.exofire.net/pics/Superintent_Awesome.png

[Advancebo]

lolwut XD

[TeeKup]

Seems evident that the SI indeed has a presence in the city. Like everyone is saying I hope in-game you'll have him guiding you along the way. The music was interesting to say the least.

[Daishi]

Can't wait. Period.

[Rosco]

looks good.

I hope some new weapons come in, I'd love to see a stealth br, maybe single shot and silenced.

[PenGuin1362]

If they're going to try to turn Halo into a tactical shooter, I'm not buying it.

I so am. I loved the ghost recon games, it'd be nice to see the halo engine with a different style of game play.

[TeeKup]

I want to see how the sniper rifle effects the ODST's. In Halo 3 they gave it more umph in the kickback effectively reducing the rate of fire, so I want to see how that works out in Recon.

[Roostervier]

I so am. I loved the ghost recon games, it'd be nice to see the halo engine with a different style of game play.
I probably would too, it wouldn't be all that bad.

[Agnaiel]

Although an over-the-shoulder view in Halo would be awesome, Bungie has officially stated that Recon will be first person.

It would be pretty cool if they added an option to be able to switch between first person and third person in the options or something, though.

[FluffyDucky™]

I really hope that this game is better than Halo 3. If I'm not happy with this new one, then FAIL BUNGIE. Who liked Halo 3? Honestly I'd like to know how many of you guys actually thought it was good compared to the first two.

[Terry]

It was definitely good compared to Halo 2. I can say that. Atleast, in terms of campaign.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I liked halo 2 better, it used alot more "skill" and actually used your brain, hooray for grenade tactics ^.^

[The_Wraith]

I really hope that this game is better than Halo 3. If I'm not happy with this new one, then FAIL BUNGIE. Who liked Halo 3? Honestly I'd like to know how many of you guys actually thought it was good compared to the first two.

Halo 1>>Halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo 2.


Easily.

[Hotrod]

I really hope that this game is better than Halo 3. If I'm not happy with this new one, then FAIL BUNGIE. Who liked Halo 3? Honestly I'd like to know how many of you guys actually thought it was good compared to the first two.
Halo 3 was great, except for the fact that it concentrates a little too much on melee in multiplayer. All three games had their ups and downs, well, except Halo 1, that game was perfecto. :)

[Arteen]

I really hope that this game is better than Halo 3. If I'm not happy with this new one, then FAIL BUNGIE. Who liked Halo 3? Honestly I'd like to know how many of you guys actually thought it was good compared to the first two.
Campaign-wise, H1>H3>H2, and MP-wise, H1>H3>>>H2.

[DEElekgolo]

Halo 2 seemed to focus more on multiplayer to me. Halo 1 was all about story. Halo 3 was about both.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

I'm not getting my hopes up for anything. Hype inevitably leads to disappointment.


Halo 3 was great, except for the fact that it concentrates a little too much on melee in multiplayer. All three games had their ups and downs, well, except Halo 1, that game was perfecto. :)

IMO Halo 1's multiplayer was mediocre at best.

[Anton]

Campaign-wise, H1>H3>H2, and MP-wise, H3>H2>>>H1.

Fix'd. :3

I loved everything in Halo 1, but it's mp was exactly what CAD said, Mediocre.

Halo 2's multiplayer wasn't that bad either.

[Hotrod]

IMO Halo 1's multiplayer was mediocre at best.
It didn't have all the special stuff that the other games had, such as Dual-wielding or destroyable vehicles, but I never got bored of playing MP on Halo 1, especially on the Xbox version.

[JunkfoodMan]

Campaign wise, H2>H3>H1
Multiplayer wise, H3>H2>H1

Halo 2's campaign had so much damn replayability, Halo 3's just packed way too much in each level.
The multiplayer was somewhat improved in terms of netcode and different online matchmaking opportunities, also anti-cheating. I just feel it's less social this time around though.

Halo 3 recon seems like a good twist gameplay-wise, although I hope they come out with a demo. I'm not going to Buy halo 3 again, but with a few more maps. If I'm going to buy this, it better have a pretty big change from Halo 3. I wan't bungie to stop being so safe, and take some risks.

[The_Wraith]

I will say that Melees are so fucked in Halo 2 and Halo 3. The one thing that frustrates me to no end is the lack of skill and awkwardness of constantly mashing the melee button in an fps game. In H1 it took skill and finesse to get a melee kill...in H2 and H3 it just takes mashing. Fucking locked-lunge ruined the Shoot/grenade/melee triforce of awesome in Halo 1 and turned it into Melee/melee/grenade/shoot bullshit.

[jngrow]

I wholeheartedly agree, about the "triforce". While H3 and H2 have better, WAY less boring weapon balance (all pistols in H1 were boring as shit eventually), the games are SO melee heavy. If I could have H3's guns with H1's melees.. :P

[Hotrod]

I wholeheartedly agree, about the "triforce". While H3 and H2 have better, WAY less boring weapon balance (all pistols in H1 were boring as shit eventually), the games are SO melee heavy. If I could have H3's guns with H1's melees.. :P
That's what I was just saying to my brother earlier today. Why couldn't Bungie not fuck up? And why can't they go and change that? Oh wait, all the melee lovers would complain...

[Kornman00]

as they say...'you can't please everyone'

[t3h m00kz]

Halo 3 with a more tactical feel would be awesome. Something different, at least. I always thought it took way too much to kill somebody in Halo 2 and Halo 3's multiplayer.

[SnaFuBAR]

Would be awesome to play as a brute in mp, or flood. Hopefully there's some new mp bipeds in the works for this game. Playing Elites and Spartans only got pretty boring after a while, and h3 was their chance to do something more than 2 bipeds. IMO they totally missed the mark.

[Pope]

Would be awesome to play as a brute in mp, or flood. Hopefully there's some new mp bipeds in the works for this game. Playing Elites and Spartans only got pretty boring after a while, and h3 was their chance to do something more than 2 bipeds. IMO they totally missed the mark.
I believe the MP is identical to Halo3 except for new maps will be available.

[Hotrod]

I remember reading something about how Recon armor may become meaningless by the time H3R comes out, and something else about how they said that "it wouldn't be so special if everybody had it,"

I know that they said that they won't be adding any new armors, so I wonder what this could be?


Little teasers also dropped during that meeting included the statement (from Jarrard) that the coveted Recon armor sought by so many Halo 3 devotees may be meaningless by the time Halo 3: Recon (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/bungie-project-2/) is released next fall...

Link : http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/bungie-project-2/918548p2.html

That wasn't where I originally got the info, but I couldn't find the other source. If I do, I'll post it here.

[Arteen]

Link : http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/bungie-project-2/918548p2.html

That wasn't where I originally got the info, but I couldn't find the other source. If I do, I'll post it here.
Oh, I hope not. I'm sick of seeing half the players in a match wearing that hideous full-Hayabusa armor, and especially that ridiculous sword. I don't want to go into a game and now see everyone wearing Recon. Ugh.

[Hotrod]

Oh, I hope not. I'm sick of seeing half the players in a match wearing that hideous full-Hayabusa armor, and especially that ridiculous sword. I don't want to go into a game and now see everyone wearing Recon. Ugh.
Same, when I play Halo, I want to be surrounded by Halo, not Ninja Gaiden. However, I don't think that they would give Recon to everybody like that, there's probably something else involved.

[Advancebo]

The only thing special would be the flame chest if that happens

[Hotrod]

And they're never going to be giving that out.

[Masterz1337]

All of you who think H2 was better than H1 or H3 are crazy. Not even Bungie is fond of H2.

H3>H1>H2

[Lex1337]

I believe the MP is identical to Halo3 except for new maps will be available.
The Multiplayer in H3R is the same as Halo 3's. As you will play players playing H3 while you're playing H3R. The only maps that will be available in H3R that are new are the Mythic Map Pack and maybe another one.

[Hotrod]

Though you probably get to play using all the maps if you have Halo 3, or something. They mentioned doing something to "reward" players that have bought Halo 3.

[Rob Oplawar]

I think you're misconstruing that recon armor remark. I think he was offering a counterexample as to why they would not do such a thing.

[FluffyDucky™]

as they say...'you can't please everyone'

Mmm, true. Still, I hope they make it better, FOR ME! :)

[Hotrod]

I think you're misconstruing that recon armor remark. I think he was offering a counterexample as to why they would not do such a thing.
Now that you mention it, it does seem like it could work that way. Whatever it is, I really don't want them to give out Recon...except to me, duh.:p

[Rosco]

Oh, I hope not. I'm sick of seeing half the players in a match wearing that hideous full-Hayabusa armor, and especially that ridiculous sword. I don't want to go into a game and now see everyone wearing Recon. Ugh.

Well unfortunately being custom is difficult, because all the other chest peices suck.

[Hotrod]

Well unfortunately being custom is difficult, because all the other chest peices suck.
Oh really? I find all the chest pieces but that fucking katana are good. Sure, I've used the katana once or twice, just to show off a bit, or if I randomized my armor, but the rest of the time, I use something else.

[Con]

CQB for the knife :)

[supersniper]

Well to back track on the health bar mechanics, if they do decide to do that instead of the regenerating shield (since they are ODST's not Spartans) then I'd say this would be the BEST opportunity to bring back the Halo 1 pistol for campaign usage only.

[JDMFSeanP]

I'd say the correlation between a health bar for a human being and an over-powered pistol makes ZERO sense.

[Pope]

CQB for the knife :)
EVA for the tape deck on front.

[Hotrod]

Scout for the big H at the front that looks cool, and EOD for being like the Mark V chest, which looks awesome.

[Mass]

I use the regular chestplate.

Everything else looks shitty.

[p0lar_bear]

I'd say the correlation between a health bar for a human being and an over-powered pistol makes ZERO sense.

If you gon' git raepd, might was well raep raep raep everything else on your way down.

[Heathen]

I dont want them to give it mp. It obviously has different weapons and gameplay. If they add new weapons, it would fuck up game mechanics. I dont want that. SP only, or its own mp. And they are NOT waiting till fall two-thousand and nien to release the Mythic Map pack. They said that it was gonna be more violent and the ODST isn't a crazy badass cyborg. Their is no way that it would make sense to mix the two.

[Pooky]

IMO Halo 1's multiplayer was mediocre at best.

Strafe back and forth, spam the Pistol.

Or on PC, ROCKETS.

Personally, I appreciate Halo 3's increased focus on melee. I only ever thought Halo 1 and 2 were fun when the fights were up close and personal.

[Sever]

Don't worry - the Mythic map pack (hopefully all of it, not just 3 of the 6 maps) will be out early next year (still during winter). If all 6 are released then, you can probably still expect more derived from H3R's campaign to be shipped with the game and available as DLC. Otherwise, 6 new H3 maps along with new single-player content over a year (and probably overlapping two years) after the game's initial release still isn't bad.

[FRain]

Did anybody else notice that the SMG that the character had had a dual mag? (one on each side)

[Hotrod]

Seriously? I'll go check that out.

EDIT : Damn, that's pretty cool, nice observation.

[DarkHalo003]

Seriously? I'll go check that out.

EDIT : Damn, that's pretty cool, nice observation.
Dude, I never noticed that. That's sick, unless Bungie was just lazy and mirrored the weapon to get the trailer out faster (don't imagine why though). But I wonder how long the reload would take for two mags, especially for a normal human. It just looks inconvenient, but still cool none-of-the-less.

Do you think this game will include the Flood crashing into New Mombassa?

[PlasbianX]

Dude, I never noticed that. That's sick, unless Bungie was just lazy and mirrored the weapon to get the trailer out faster (don't imagine why though). But I wonder how long the reload would take for two mags, especially for a normal human. It just looks inconvenient, but still cool none-of-the-less.

Do you think this game will include the Flood crashing into New Mombassa?

Would make sense. After all it IS a halo 3 game, yet the trailer shows it taking place during the halo 2 time period. So imo, would be sweet if you also played up to parts in the halo 3 campaign like when the flood crash into new mombasa.

[thehoodedsmack]

I personally don't want to see the Halo canon get drenched in extra nonsense. Here's hoping these ODST's get glassed at the end. I'll love playing as them for a while, but would rather see the games schlep back to Spartan adventures as opposed to a whole new ODST franchise.

[DarkHalo003]

It's the ODSTs that defended Earth while Chief was gone though. =o

Anyways, I'm glad there is something new. I was getting bored of always being a spartan. I see this as a new way of fighting the Covenant, plus, I really just want to know what happens to Earth between Halo2 - Halo3.

[PlasbianX]

I also wonder if there will be elites to fight against in this too, since the elites weren't yet sided with the humans

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I wonder If we will play the campaign levels that where going to be in halo 2, but where scrapped out due to lack of time, and/or being added to h3 isntead (Seirra 117)
And I honestly hope for a GoW like theme to it, similar gore types and the like, and hopefully there will be a new mp, though bungie says its probably not gonna happen.

[Heathen]

:3

Our guy, the main character, is the chosen one" and he gets infected by the flood. He is so fucking awesome however, that he can be a flood-human halfling and switch back and forth between his forms to use his superpowers to fight covies and flood.
Then he rides his flaming unicorn named turtle into the sun and hacks it to destroy the planet and lives the remainder of his life with sexual tense team of MC and Cortana and the wacky and glitchy comic relief the SI on the mysterious planet from halo 3.




I smell a sitcom.




*sigh* I'f only you lived in my world :rolleyes:

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

You mean your world of lolicon and cp and goatsie?
No thanks :S

[Con]

You mean your world of lolicon and cp and goatse?
No thanks :S
ftfu

[LinkandKvel]

I so am. I loved the ghost recon games, it'd be nice to see the halo engine with a different style of game play.

Why not this bungie? Why?

[Advancebo]

:3

Our guy, the main character, is the chosen one" and he gets infected by the flood. He is so fucking awesome however, that he can be a flood-human halfling and switch back and forth between his forms to use his superpowers to fight covies and flood.

OMG IDEA FROM AREA 51 vPS2

[TeeKup]

I also wonder if there will be elites to fight against in this too, since the elites weren't yet sided with the humans

Oh god please. Elites were so much more fun to fight.

[Cortexian]

Did anybody else notice that the SMG that the character had had a dual mag? (one on each side)
Neat, possibly feeds from both sides?

[Heathen]

You mean your world of lolicon and cp and goatsie?
No thanks :S
From that analysis I would almost think you know me irl.


OMG IDEA FROM AREA 51 vPS2
Orly?


Why not this bungie? Why?

HEY, ma boi's back!

E: wtf, why did mu submit button just say vote now?

[SnaFuBAR]

Neat, possibly feeds from both sides?
Doubt it. In fact I'm sure the inspiration for that is probably something like the g11 which carried 2 spare mags on the weapon itself. Not to mention, a dual feed mechanism and bolt is incredibly ridiculous and serves absolutely no value of any kind. No, not even for ambidexterity.

[Rob Oplawar]

Ya know, by now it probably won't do me any good to point out that the original script I wrote for BCE involved ODSTs defending New Mombasa after the slipspace event (spending much of their time fighting on one of the two bridges above the city, visible in Metropolis of Halo 2, hence the name Bridge CE). One of the key points of conflict was actually the anger the marines wrestling for control of the city felt that the Master Chief, the one and only Spartan Earth has and their best hope of defending the home planet, went galumphing out across space to leave Earth to fend for itself in the midst of crisis.

I eventually abandoned the idea, thinking that it would be too far a stretch to have fans who knew the driving events to believe, after seeing that explosion, that there was anything left of New Mombasa to defend.

Ahm just sayin...

[TeeKup]

Considering the area in which your story would have taken place was in the epicenter of the blast.

[Rob Oplawar]

not necessarily
it could have been up to two miles away, by my guess. It wasn't the same island as the space elevator, but it was admittedly much closer than the area shown in the trailer.

still...
WTF, Bungie, I thought of it first!
No but srsly, my story has matured quite far beyond its origins, and I think it is safely unique.

[armoman92]

is the guy who we are going to be playing as going to be able to walk as fast as MC. I mean i know in like real life (or halo life) he cant but the game is going to be pretty slow if he cant.

[Sever]

All audiophiles, check this week's update. Prepare to Drop's score of the same name has been released in .mp3 format. Get it HERE (http://www.bungie.net/Images/Games/Halo3Recon/audio/Prepare_to_Drop.mp3).

[Cortexian]

All audiophiles, check this week's update. Prepare to Drop's score of the same name has been released in .mp3 format. Get it HERE (http://www.bungie.net/Images/Games/Halo3Recon/audio/Prepare_to_Drop.mp3).
Marty needs to have my babies. I don't care if he's a man, make it so!

[Hotrod]

All audiophiles, check this week's update. Prepare to Drop's score of the same name has been released in .mp3 format. Get it HERE (http://www.bungie.net/Images/Games/Halo3Recon/audio/Prepare_to_Drop.mp3).
<3

[flibitijibibo]

And now to transcribe this bitch.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

[quote=Heathen;313059]From that analysis I would almost think you know me irl.quote]
If your name is andrew and have ever been called "mr mcbuttsecks"
I do know you

[LinkandKvel]

is the guy who we are going to be playing as going to be able to walk as fast as MC.Yes, because in all the Halo games so far you could run no faster than the marines. Why change it now?

[TeeKup]

In Halo 3 you ran faster than the marines.

[Huero]

In general walking speed -gasp- doesn't matter.

[Rob Oplawar]

Sure it does, quite a lot actually.
Haven't you noticed how many games these days offer the distinction between walk, run, and sprint? It's an important gameplay decision.

[Terry]

He'll probably end up running as fast as Halo 3 MC if not slightly faster, for the sake of gameplay. Because the lack of shields is going to need some compensation.

[Heathen]

^

Also,

[quote=Heathen;313059]From that analysis I would almost think you know me irl.quote]
If your name is andrew and have ever been called "mr mcbuttsecks"
I do know you
Fraid not.

Thada been crazy though.

[Hotrod]

He'll probably end up running as fast as Halo 3 MC if not slightly faster, for the sake of gameplay. Because the lack of shields is going to need some compensation.
I'd say the same speed, max. Also, the jump height will probably be greatly reduced, since an ODST is a normal human, and can't jump nearly as high as a Spartan.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

^

Also,
[quote=lone wolf;313754]
Fraid not.

Thada been crazy though.
aww
hehe :P
e: are quotes broken?

[Kornman00]

maybe he'll be one of those SII rejects that didn't turn inside out :downs:

[Hotrod]

It said something about SI, so he could be a Spartan-I...

[Heathen]

Or Super Intendant








[quote=Heathen;314052]^

Also,

aww
hehe :P
e: are quotes broken?

Nah, you did it wrong, which in turn made mine do wrong, which made yours do wrong again, which will prolly make these do wrong.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Or Super Intendant







[quote=lone wolf;314162]

Nah, you did it wrong, which in turn made mine do wrong, which made yours do wrong again, which will prolly make these do wrong.
your doing it wrong

[Kornman00]

cut the shit

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Ok :whimper:

[sevlag]

I guess a plausible excuse for a fast run speed would be his adrenaline is kicking in. As for the SMG...wait thats an SMG? looked like something from Star Wars to me (clone rifle)...

anyways looks good and it'll kinda be like swat

[Cortexian]

Well with all the shit they did to the Spartans for their augmentation, I wouldn't be surprised if ODST's had some kind of drug enhancement to increase their reaction times and such... But other than that, nothing special about ODST's except for general badassness.

[sevlag]

Well with all the shit they did to the Spartans for their augmentation, I wouldn't be surprised if ODST's had some kind of drug enhancement to increase their reaction times and such... But other than that, nothing special about ODST's except for general badassness.well ODST's are the "second place child" as they obtain hand-me-down equip from SII program, so yeah. you'll probably have some sort of reinforced armor and/or a weak (similar to the SIII shielding system) with a health bar.

anyways, can't wait to play this, and according to Bungie you still play as a SPARTAN in MP

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I Really hope you dont play as a spartan in mp. :phonegonk:

[BobtheGreatII]

I Really hope you dont play as a spartan in mp. :phonegonk:



Will we get to play as ODSTs in multiplayer now?

No. The multiplayer maps included with the retail package are straight up Halo 3 multiplayer maps. The ODST and other components that make up the Recon campaign are in a separate bucket and not crossing over into the competitive multiplayer realm. Think of it as two games in one.


:eyesroll:

[p0lar_bear]

competitive multiplayer
:eyesroll:

[BobtheGreatII]

:eyesroll:

Wait what?

What's the meaning of your post? As far as I understand it (and I'm not saying I'm right) you play as ODST in the Campaign and Co-Op, but you play regular multiplayer with Spartans.

[Pooky]

:eyesroll:

idgi, are you saying you don't like competitive multiplayer, or that there might be ODSTs in some sort of casual multiplayer :S

[p0lar_bear]

idgi, are you saying you don't like competitive multiplayer, or that there might be ODSTs in some sort of casual multiplayer :S

Um, hello? You should know by now that my opinion on the matter is "competitive multiplayer" is to "Halo 3" as "fistfight" is to "beat up a kid in a wheelchair."

[Pooky]

Um, hello? You should know by now that my opinion on the matter is "competitive multiplayer" is to "Halo 3" as "fistfight" is to "beat up a kid in a wheelchair."

Eh, it was the context and the fact that all you put was an emote that messed people up.

Besides, since I've never gotten the chance to play Halo 3 with you and other than your anti MLG rules post I've never read anything from you on the topic... no, I didn't know that.

[Rob Oplawar]

lolol, come on p0lar, give Bungie some credit.

[Kornman00]

lolol, come on p0lar, give Bungie some credit.
they got their credit...at the end of the game :colbert:

:downs:

[Rosco]

I'd say the same speed, max. Also, the jump height will probably be greatly reduced, since an ODST is a normal human, and can't jump nearly as high as a Spartan.

Well if it's really gonna live up to the recon name, he should be able to climb things to make up for the fact his suit is probably heavier than him :downs:

[Hotrod]

Is his suit heavier than him though? In the end, he's just and ODST, not a Spartan.

[DarkHalo003]

I just want another Halo game to come out. Halo has always been one of the better games I've played that I can play continuously. I hope Gears 2 does the same. Either way, this will give me something to look forward to after school kicks off and is boring again.

[Rob Oplawar]

Recon Armor will be earnable for all - complete the Vidmaster Challenge series of achievements and it's yours

FUCK.

Now Recon's gonna be just as common as Hayabusa. That pisses me off. Hayabusa would actually be cool if people weren't douches and actually kept the secret of how to unlock it to themselves. Yes, sharing that knowledge is douchy, because now everybody and his dog has Hayabusa and it's just retarded.

Now it's gonna be the same with Recon. Everybody's gonna go around wearing Recon and a katana and saying "LOOK HOW AWESOME I AM". It's cool for one or two truly awesome people to do that. But having it actually unlockable just waters down the experience for everybody. Fuck that.


Source: http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=24476

edit: Grr, I'm still mad about this. It's like signing a few fans' game disks for coming out to visit Bungie at a convention, and then seeing how popular that is and selling "limited edition" games with printed signatures on them so that everybody can have one. It's like selling trophies. It's like those spam e-mails titled "Earn your degree in minutes!". It's a sham, and it makes it worthless.

[Saggy]

FUCK.

Now Recon's gonna be just as common as Hayabusa. That pisses me off. Hayabusa would actually be cool if people weren't douches and actually kept the secret of how to unlock it to themselves. Yes, sharing that knowledge is douchy, because now everybody and his dog has Hayabusa and it's just retarded.

Now it's gonna be the same with Recon. Everybody's gonna go around wearing Recon and a katana and saying "LOOK HOW AWESOME I AM". It's cool for one or two truly awesome people to do that. But having it actually unlockable just waters down the experience for everybody. Fuck that.


Source: http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=24476
Agreed. I think it's complete bullshit. Now think about the people who earned it by doing crazy/cool stuff, it'll make them feel like they did what they did for nothing.

[LinkandKvel]

Also "recon is only considered a three to five hour expansion pack." Why the fuck is the release date so far away then???

[thehoodedsmack]

Oh, cool. I always thought the Recon chest was the best.

[Arteen]

I don't think it's all bad that Recon will become as common as Hayabusa. At worst, all the people wearing that ridiculous Hayabusa armor will switch to the less ridiculous Recon armor, and at best, half the people wearing Hayabusa will switch to Recon, adding some variation.

[Hotrod]

Well, I don't know about the Recon thing, since not everybody will want to go and have to buy the new maps for the one Achievement, and half the players couldn't beat the Annual Achievement to save their lives.

And I was really hoping for Halo 3 : Recon to last more than 3-5 hours, I would expect it to last about the same as the original, since they're taking over a year to make it, without having to create a completely new game engine and stuff...

[Zeph]

Also "recon is only considered a three to five hour expansion pack." Why the fuck is the release date so far away then???

There's this little thing you have to do in order to make a video game. It's called work.

[p0lar_bear]

A lot of work has to go into even a short expansion.

Halo 3's long release was due to them modifying Blam to work with the XBox 360 and give it new features, on top of animating, modeling, texturing, recording voices, etc. This is pretty much the same deal but without the recoding.

[musicman888]

HBO talked with Brian 'SketchFactor' Jarrard and got a Recon Armor Clarification. I felt the need to post this in here for you all to read.

http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/reconclarification.html

[Terry]

I think this a good thing since recon armour is basically asking to get your account hacked. Now, not so much.

[Hotrod]

Well, I guess we'll have to wait a short while before getting our Recon, but hey, that's fine with me. I'm disappointed that they're cutting out half the maps from the Mythic Map Pack though, I was looking forward to seeing the other 3...

[Zeph]

A lot of work has to go into even a short expansion.

Halo 3's long release was due to them modifying Blam to work with the XBox 360 and give it new features, on top of animating, modeling, texturing, recording voices, etc. This is pretty much the same deal but without the recoding.

Also, it's a smaller team working on the expansion.

[Sever]

Well, I guess we'll have to wait a short while before getting our Recon, but hey, that's fine with me. I'm disappointed that they're cutting out half the maps from the Mythic Map Pack though, I was looking forward to seeing the other 3...
Umm, unless you can show me your source, there are still 6 multiplayer maps in the Mythic map pack. 3 are being released early with the Halo Wars: Limited Edition set, but none have been cut to my knowledge.

[Saggy]

Sever, I think he means he wishes that all 6 would be released at the same time. 3 are being released early 2009, and the other 3 will come with Halo 3: Recon. They were all supposed to be released at the same time and it would be called "Mythic Map Collection" or something like that.

[Hotrod]

Umm, unless you can show me your source, there are still 6 multiplayer maps in the Mythic map pack. 3 are being released early with the Halo Wars: Limited Edition set, but none have been cut to my knowledge.
*cough* http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/reconclarification.html *cough*



HBO: The Brainpan Achievement seems to be causing the biggest confusion. Its description is "Find all the hidden skulls on the Mythic maps." However, while the icon for the Brainpan Achievement contains six skulls (and other Achievements make it clear that there are skulls on all six currently-named maps), recently-released information about the Mythic Map Pack suggests that it contains only three maps - Assembly, Orbital, and Sandbox. Does this mean that you can finish the Brainpan Achievement by finding just three skulls - or are the three maps that haven't been formally announced yet also considered 'Mythic Maps'?
SketchFactor: You can't complete the Brainpan achievement until the remaining three maps are released since as you say, it does require finding six skulls. Long ago, all six maps were considered the "Mythic Collection" but now we're in a situation where three of them will be released early as the "Mythic Map Pack." Technically all six are still "Mythic" though. A little confusing, eh? The reality is that these maps and plans originated long ago and a lot has changed since then, creating a little bit of a convoluted situation but the upside is that three of the maps are coming out before the Halo 3: Recon retail release.

HBO: Are there any plans at this stage to release the remaining three maps (Citadel, Heretic, Longshore) before Halo 3: Recon hits the shelves?
SketchFactor: There are no plans that we are aware of to release any further maps beyond the Mythic Map pack before the release of Halo 3: Recon.

[Sever]

They always say there's no plan for an action taking place. All of the map packs will eventually be free, as was the case for H2 and the Heroic pack so far. Saying there aren't plans means that they're just not disclosing it at the time being. Still sucks that they aren't all coming out at the same time. Thanks for the citation, though.

[DarkHalo003]

Bungie has not discussed making Legendary free though. Mythic Maps will technically be free with H3 Recon, but then again you are paying for the game. Either way, I'm not worried about what comes with the game. It looks cool either way.

[Sever]

Bungie also previously had discussed not making the Heroic map pack free. They always become free eventually.

[DEElekgolo]

Edited original post with pictures.

[Zeph]

need bigger pictures. I cant read the text.

[Saggy]

Thought this was kind of interesting (Excerpts from article in no particular order):

On the ground you've got new equipment, such as a PDA to set waypoints on a wireframe map, and you're left to explore the city in an order that you wish.

The goal is to find and investigate the last known locations of your four ODST team mates, using the new 'Visual Mode', which as shown in the debut trailer (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/game.php?id=10421) highlights enemies an items with a hi-tech neon glow, to path your way though the moon-clad metropolis.

But while you're character gains new toys like the PDA, Visual Mode and a silenced SMG, the puny non-super soldier loses the Chief's shields (but not the ability to regenerate health), motion tracker and ability to dual-wield weapons. The ODSTs are also shorter and slower.


Read the fulll article here: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=201842

[Terry]

The game sounds interesting. However, I imagined they'd take this opportunity to show off a really huge struggle. Hoping they still do it.

[Pooky]

Here's hoping they add a health meter so you can actually see your health level unlike in h3

Also does anyone know whether all the maps will come with Recon whether or not you buy the first 3 seperately?

[Sever]

All of the Mythic maps will ship with H3: Recon.

[Terin]

Halo 3: Recon is now Halo 3: ODST. (http://www.bungie.net/News/Blog.aspx?mode=news#cid16289)

k.

[Pooky]

Fail. Halo 3: Recon actually sounded good. Halo 3: ODST is just a mouthful.

[Timo]

Halo 4: MC?

[Hotrod]

Fail. Halo 3: Recon actually sounded good. Halo 3: ODST is just a mouthful.
I was just thinking that, and it's nowhere near as catchy either.

[Siliconmaster]

I wonder why they decided to change it. Corporate decision mb? Microsoft does technically still own the Halo franchise. I liked Recon better. D:

[thehoodedsmack]

Hypothesis: Too many dumbass kids saying "OMG!!! HALO 4!! MC'S GOT BLACK ARMOUR!!!"

[TeeKup]

Hypothesis: Too many dumbass kids saying "OMG!!! HALO 4!! MC'S GOT BLACK ARMOUR!!!"

5 bucks says he's right.

[flibitijibibo]

5 bucks says he's right.
Make it 10, we could use the monies.