In case you all forgot

[PenGuin1362]

I have a pit...the pit. This pit is bananas, b-a-n-a-n-a-s...sorry

Well Con has been providing me with some very accurate and sexy textures, so I've been slowly texturing the level. The clamps took the longest to replace >_> but now that they're done, I can get down to the easier stuff. It's slowly coming along...

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6122/textureingwipem3.jpg

[Choking Victim]

I'm lovin' it :)

[DarkHalo003]

Looks freaking awesome. I love that level. So much that can be done if you play the right game type and people.

Those wood textures look way too fake. I think you should model in the areas where this texture is to give it the 3d effect.

[FluffyDucky™]

Oh gawd, looks great!

[Hunter]

Get some smexy bump maps on there.

[Kornman00]

the steel wall on the top looks a little out of proportion but other than that, it looks pretty good

[teh lag]

Looks freaking awesome. I love that level. So much that can be done if you play the right game type and people.

Those wood textures look way too fake. I think you should model in the areas where this texture is to give it the 3d effect.

...Wood?

I see no wood there :raise:



Gj peng, maybe this will let you earn those wings.

[ultama121]

Oh hell yes. I remember this. <33

Please say you're gonna allow Kibito to convert this to the sexbox.

Pweeeeease?

[Anton]

Good Job Penguin. It looks great. I was just thinking about this the other morning, I was waiting and waiting for an update and now that we have one. <3 for you.

[Heathen]

...Wood?

I see no wood there :raise:



Ya, wtf.

This looks great. How do you plan on doing the fan lifts?

[PenGuin1362]

Script, damage effect, ladder, dunno yet.

[Inferno]

Is this a extracted model or a custom model?

Also I recently did a remake of the pit called Omega Station but its based on a space station and its kinda different.

[ShadowSpartan]

Is this a extracted model or a custom model?

Also I recently did a remake of the pit called Omega Station but its based on a space station and its kinda different.
It's a custom model.

The level is coming along nicely, keep up the good work. I remembered playing a build a while back....was so fucking bright from having no textures, it hurt my eyes and was hard to kill people :p. But it was still fun nonetheless.

[Sel]

hot stuff penguin

[Inferno]

That's pretty damn accurate for custom. Good job I can't wait to play this. I'm assuming original weapons (except with 4sk pistol and no Fail Rod)

[Advancebo]

Ya, wtf.

This looks great. How do you plan on doing the fan lifts?

I heard it can be done as vehicles.

also
open sauce?

[Heathen]

That's pretty damn accurate for custom. Good job I can't wait to play this. I'm assuming original weapons (except with 4sk pistol and no Fail Rod)
Dont need to now >.>
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?p=314278#post314278

E: snap. its gone :D

Good.

[Hotrod]

Damn, that looks quite awesome, can't wait for a release. It'll be strange to have a Halo 3 map in Halo CE though...though not in a bad way.

[Disaster]

If you need help with textures, I'm game.

[Evil_Monkey]

Looking really nice, keep it up.

[NuggetWarmer]

Hot stuff.

[FRain]

I'm lovin' it :)

BA-DA-BA-BA-BA!

[armoman92]

this sucks, stop trying now!

just kidding, awesome job, keep it up!

Any chance this might go to H2V??

[Cortexian]

this sucks, stop trying now!

just kidding, awesome job, keep it up!

Any chance this might go to H2V??
No.

Things don't go to H2V.

[Con]

I'll be releasing the textures once this is done

[Disaster]

I'll be releasing the textures once this is done
oh cool

[Kalub]

B A
N A
N A S

[PenGuin1362]

I have not decided whether I want to release the actual model or not. It all depends on what I plan on doing with it other than Halo. We'll see though.

[n00b1n8R]

Will there be poppy uppy brutes to make shot?

[FRain]

w1bpuGZdqC0

Made by CAD.

[PenGuin1362]

There will be everything short of movable scenery. Even the flying birds.

[SHOUTrvb]

I forgot about this.. You and I should catch up more often, Penguin. It's looking sharp.

[Apoc4lypse]

looking good, but yea, make sure theres a classic version, battle rifles ruin this map in halo 3... but pistols and snipers from halo 1, now that'l be good times.

[thehoodedsmack]

You can get the air lifts to work? What about the sword. Despite being cheap as hell, that whole office area is built around the fact that it's where the sword belongs, and does its work best.

[Apoc4lypse]

You can get the air lifts to work? What about the sword. Despite being cheap as hell, that whole office area is built around the fact that it's where the sword belongs, and does its work best.

replace the sword with the fuel rod, it'l serve the same purpose, completely cheap heavy weapon. Then keep the rocket in the same spot.

[Pooky]

replace the sword with the fuel rod, it'l serve the same purpose, completely cheap heavy weapon. Then keep the rocket in the same spot.

Except the Fuel Rod is a ranged weapon, which is pretty different from an overpowered melee weapon.

All that lunging business isn't really necessary anyway, it could just be a fast 1 hit kill long ranged melee weapon and have the same effect.

[Dwood]

Except the Fuel Rod is a ranged weapon, which is pretty different from an overpowered melee weapon.

All that lunging business isn't really necessary anyway, it could just be a fast 1 hit kill long ranged melee weapon and have the same effect.

How about a SUPER SHORT range weapon with a 1-hit kill possibility to replace the sword?

[Heathen]

Like a shotgun :haw:

[DarkHalo003]

...Wood?

I see no wood there :raise:



Gj peng, maybe this will let you earn those wings.
The yellow areas on the base is what I was referring to. They look cartoony.

[Heathen]

Saw those popup targets on cad's thing long ago. Maybe he could give you that camera too. - the spartanraper

[007useless]

Wow this is awesome

[Sever]

Saw those popup targets on cad's thing long ago. Maybe he could give you that camera too.Or maybe, just maybe, cad made them for this.

[Con]

The yellow areas on the base is what I was referring to. They look cartoony.
They look different from what I sent pengy, I think he made them yellower.
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9077/54911604fullny5.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1038/panelyellowflattp2.jpg

Mind you, this is without specular.

[Heathen]

Or maybe, just maybe, cad made them for this.

I dont know CAD and Penguins relation.

[FRain]

The popup target, and the camera, were both made specifically for Peng's Pit Mod.

[PenGuin1362]

I dont know CAD and Penguins relation.

CAD's my bitch. <3

I don't think you ever sent a yellow panel one, that's why that one looks so odd cause I did just a quick hue/saturation edit >_>. But thanks for that one
: p

[Inferno]

How about a SUPER SHORT range weapon with a 1-hit kill possibility to replace the sword?

Ummm like a flamethrower? I mean what other weapon would you put in the sword room besides the flamer. It fits the job perfectly.

BTW if you put a fail rod in my favorite halo 3 map I'll :suicide:

[ICEE]

This is by far my favorite halo 3 level. good work pengwin

[Heathen]

:o no detachable turrets?

[ODX]

When CAD's involved, expect anything.

[Heathen]

Doubt it really. Unless its like...a vehicle.

K, nother question. H3 Invisibility/Overshield?

And what about hud?

that is all.

[ICEE]

A better question would be if it actually will play like halo 3, or will it be a halo 3 map with halo 1 content.

[supersniper]

I forgot. Thanks for the reminding.

[Con]

CAD's my bitch. <3

I don't think you ever sent a yellow panel one, that's why that one looks so odd cause I did just a quick hue/saturation edit >_>. But thanks for that one
: p
come online and I'll send you the real one with specular, plus the other one you wanted

edit: nvm, the specs the same as panel_silver_flat

[onion pistol]

Looks really nice!

[ODX]

K, nother question. H3 Invisibility/Overshield?
Are you talking about how the overshield works or looks? Because I hope they change its looks, I sometimes find it hard to see if I'm going to pick up an overshield or a camo. But, that's just me, I'm not always carrying around a pistol. *gasp*

[Heathen]

What does a pistol have to do with that?

[DarkHalo003]

What does a pistol have to do with that?
ODX, on top of that, are you possibly colorblind?

[Heathen]

^

[Pooky]

What does a pistol have to do with that?

Maybe he thinks the view model of larger weapons covers the powerup or something? idk

[PenGuin1362]

Well to answer all your questions:

Flamethrower will be in the sword room.

Hud will most likely be H3, I haven't decided yet.

overshield/camo will probably just be the same

There will be Halo 3 stationary turrets in the classic version. There will be a Halo 3 version of the map as well (most likely) and that may or may not include a detachable turret, CAD is going to work on a test later, we'll see how it goes.

More awesome texture by Con:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/197/texturingwip2xz5.jpg


http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2804/texturingwip3dz0.jpg

[CtrlAltDestroy]

badass motherfucker

[Sever]

Don't H3 the hud for the classic version. Also, take some time with the weapons layout - do a few different tests to see what works well for the symmetrically placed minor weapons and whatnot. All of the power weapons are obviously in their right places as it currently stands, however.

[Con]

Don't H3 the hud for the classic version.
.

[Apoc4lypse]

match the weapon placements with this semi equivalents to the halo 3 weapon placements. EX: shotguns go where the pistol shotguns from halo 3 go. Pistols for the battle rifles etc.

[Con]

Is the texture supposed to be like that?
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1262/captureud8.png (http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1262/captureud8.png)

[PenGuin1362]

nope

[Sever]

Apoc, if you put Shotguns where the Maulers go, what do you put where the Shotguns go? Go and place the H3 equivalents of all of the H1 weapons on The Pit in Forge to see what works as an acceptable layout. The only problems that I see are what to do with the SMGs Maulers and Magnums.

[Choking Victim]

There will be a Halo 3 version of the map as well (most likely) and that may or may not include a detachable turret, CAD is going to work on a test later, we'll see how it goes.
Rips or custom? I've got some ideas on how to do the active camo/overshield effects.

[MetKiller Joe]

This map will finally give me a reason to play Halo CE :).

Are there already tags made for SMGs and Magnums?

[FluffyDucky™]

^ Heard that from many people many times. They all play like once or twice and that's it. :(

[n00b1n8R]

This map will finally give me a reason to play Halo CE :).

Are there already tags made for SMGs and Magnums?
There have been (in varying degrees of polish) SMG and magnum since like 2005. Not sure why you'd need magnum tags though, as the H1 pistol could easily become a H3 magnum with just a little fiddling in the tags.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

We already have access to a good amount of Halo 3 content, so that's already covered.

[MetKiller Joe]

There have been (in varying degrees of polish) SMG and magnum since like 2005. Not sure why you'd need magnum tags though, as the H1 pistol could easily become a H3 magnum with just a little fiddling in the tags.


My bad. I meant the Mauler instead of the Magnum. The Magnum, as you stated, is very easy to modify into a H3 Magnum.

[Choking Victim]

http://halotrialmods.org/zteam/personal_files/cv/active_camo.jpg
so yea peng, hit me up later on aim if you want the tags.

[ShadowSpartan]

*picture*
Looks awesome. :)

[Hunter]

*pic*
so yea peng, hit me up later on aim if you want the tags.

You got a video of it?

[Choking Victim]

You got a video of it?
I tried getting a video, but Fraps made halo exception. I took a picture instead.

[Hunter]

Okay. You wanna trade?

The tags for a model? Lol. Because that looks awesome.

[PenGuin1362]

*picture*
so yea peng, hit me up later on aim if you want the tags.

Looks like we're doin H3 style camo/os :p

As for content, if I can get the Battle rifle I made skinned and animated I wanna use that and CAD's AR. Everything else can be ripped.

[Hunter]

Looks like we're doin H3 style camo/os :p

As for content, if I can get the Battle rifle I made skinned and animated I wanna use that and CAD's AR. Everything else can be ripped.
.....?

[PenGuin1362]

I have connections with some very smart individuals. But that's not important atm.

[Choking Victim]

I have connections with some very smart individuals. But that's not important atm.
lol :p

[ShadowSpartan]

I have connections with some very smart individuals. But that's not important atm.
:cool:

[Hunter]

:( Why rip though. Lol. I don't like rips.

Your choice though.

[Choking Victim]

Your choice though.
Yes, its his choice. Now for the sake of this thread, no more discussion about it.

[ICEE]

Custom animations would be nice at least, if your going to rip the weapon models. Or at least tweak the ripped animations so they point at the reticle, and seem to fit the FOV.

[DarkHalo003]

Custom animations would be nice at least, if your going to rip the weapon models. Or at least tweak the ripped animations so they point at the reticle, and seem to fit the FOV.
I agree, but I think the H3 BR has the better FoV in fullscreen than from Halo2. I think it would be interesting to see a ripped spiker, as well as a ripped ES with it's original anims.

[PenGuin1362]

The whole point of the project is to recreate as much of the level as physically possible. Visually. Weapons really aren't much of my concern. Which is why I could care less if the weapons are ripped, it will have no effect on game play, and with Choking's shader skills and CAD's effect skills it will have no visual difference either. Again my only concern is getting the scenery and BSP so look as exact as possible. No more discussion of ripped content.

Should have more progress either today or tomorrow.

[Heathen]

Yes for Invis.

[Hotrod]

I don't think that the turrets should be in the classic version. Classic should be, well, classic weapons only.

[ODX]

What does a pistol have to do with that?
Zooming in to see better. I don't know, I had to go and I wasn't thinking right. And no, I'm not colorblind :|

[Roostervier]

Good stuff guys, keep it up. :3

[n00b1n8R]

I don't think that the turrets should be in the classic version. Classic should be, well, classic weapons only.
what's wrong with a warthog turrent?

Also, what's the difference between the H1 and H3 camo's and over-shield's asides from the appearance of the powerup it's self?

[Choking Victim]

what's wrong with a warthog turrent?

Also, what's the difference between the H1 and H3 camo's and over-shield's asides from the appearance of the powerup it's self?
Refraction amount. In halo 3, you can barely see a person with it. In halo 1, its very prominent.

Edit: Also,
http://halotrialmods.org/zteam/personal_files/cv/active_camo2.jpg
Finished them yesterday.

[n00b1n8R]

Admittedly, I've only played halo on squinto-vision 4 player split screen or on a washed out projector but arn't they darker and more transparent than that?

[Choking Victim]

Halo 3 version:
http://halowiki.net/images/7/79/Overshield_index.jpg
close enough imo. Why spend more than 1 day making something that really won't impact how you play the map in the long run, ya know? ;)

[NuggetWarmer]

what's wrong with a warthog turret?

Also, what's the difference between the H1 and H3 camo's and over-shield's asides from the appearance of the powerup it's self?

Just correcting your error.

[Hunter]

Could you make a list of scenery you need please.

[Con]

Nice choking victim, the only difference I see is the cloud thing in the middle not being there.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/personal_files/cad/videos/os.wmv

[ICEE]

The powerup orbs look incredible, but the battle rifle in the vid looks horrid to me. The skin looks really low res, but I suppose thats what happens when you take a texture from a new engine that doesn't require high res, and put it into an old engine with inferior shader capabilities.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

The battle rifle is not the point. Please refrain from commenting on it.

[Con]

those clouds in the middle are kinda just randomly appearing, instead of expanding and swirling from the center like they should.

[Choking Victim]

those clouds in the middle are kinda just randomly appearing, instead of expanding and swirling from the center like they should.
That was his take on the effect in the video btw, in mine i made it dust instead of clouds.

[DarkHalo003]

I actually like that BR a lot. I doubt this will be open sourced, but if it does somehow become it, I can easily see people using it in the future. Anyways, the overshield looks amazing. Great job.

[Choking Victim]

I actually like that BR a lot. I doubt this will be open sourced, but if it does somehow become it, I can easily see people using it in the future. Anyways, the overshield looks amazing. Great job.
I sincerely doubt the halo 3 tags will be open sourced. I believe peng was talking about open sourcing the bsp model and textures. But looking back through the thread I can't find where it was said, so maybe i'm imagining it.

[Hunter]

It glows :P

Looks good.

[DarkHalo003]

I sincerely doubt the halo 3 tags will be open sourced. I believe peng was talking about open sourcing the bsp model and textures. But looking back through the thread I can't find where it was said, so maybe i'm imagining it.
Well, what I'm debating is why ripped content should be open-sourced and why it shouldn't to keep the ripped items "safe" (no other ways to explain it).

[p0lar_bear]

Well, what I'm debating is why ripped content should be open-sourced and why it shouldn't to keep the ripped items "safe" (no other ways to explain it).

Well, don't debate it in here. CAD specifically said that the focus of the post was NOT the battle rifle.

This will lead to a large argument then a flamewar. We've been here before, and I don't feel like coming back... at least, not in here.

Please don't derail Peng's topic.

[PenGuin1362]

Yeah tool bags.

BSP may or may not be open sourced. If everything comes out the way I want to, then it will not be released. If it doesn't then most likely. Con has already stated the textures will be released. More progress tomorrow.

[Choking Victim]

http://halotrialmods.org/zteam/personal_files/cv/3pwoot.jpg

This was a test to see if I could get a 3rd person camera without an external program. It worked :). You can probably expect 3rd person turrets in the halo 3 version of the mod.

Warning: this image is not posted for critical analysis, just to show you what's in store. I'm aware of the flaws and already know how to fix them.

[Agnaiel]

I'm actually not surprised it worked. I saw something for camera angle when I was checking out the tags for the spartans a few months back.

One question though. Why is there the arrow above the reticule like there would be in a warthog?

[ODX]

One question though. Why is there the arrow above the reticule like there would be in a warthog?
Maybe he's a vehicle, dunno. H3MT thought of that, or to wait for Open Sauce. Doan and I supported just waiting for Open Sauce, but everyone else wanted to run eachother over with turrets :|
Edit: God damn it postimes.

[Choking Victim]

I'm actually not surprised it worked. I saw something for camera angle when I was checking out the tags for the spartans a few months back.

One question though. Why is there the arrow above the reticule like there would be in a warthog?
I don't know how you think im doing this, but it's not what you're thinking. The method used is a dummy masterchief biped with a third person seat. The game doesn't allow you to enter/exit the biped pressing the 'E' key, so I scripted the game to load the player into the seat when he presses 'q'. When you press 'q' again, you'll exit the seat. The reason the warthog reticule is there is because it uses the warthog user interface.

[Heathen]

so your gonna do that badass turret pimp strut?

[PenGuin1362]

boo.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4632/texturingwip4sc6.jpg

[Roostervier]

Looks awesome. :3

[killer9856]

ooooo

I <3 penguin

[Apoc4lypse]

I don't know how you think im doing this, but it's not what you're thinking. The method used is a dummy masterchief biped with a third person seat. The game doesn't allow you to enter/exit the biped pressing the 'E' key, so I scripted the game to load the player into the seat when he presses 'q'. When you press 'q' again, you'll exit the seat. The reason the warthog reticule is there is because it uses the warthog user interface.

This man is clever... +rep

[DarkHalo003]

Just too good looking. Something tells me it'll look descent enough in CE too. Great job.

[Heathen]

Do me buddy. Like irl.


very good.

[ODX]

It looks great, now...to find the BR spawn....
I don't have Halo 3, so I wouldn't exactly know.

[Heathen]

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4632/texturingwip4sc6.jpghttp://images.wikia.com/halo/images/thumb/4/4e/ThePit-Base1_Overview.jpg/800px-ThePit-Base1_Overview.jpg

Quite good.

Are you gonna do the words over by the popup target?

[Con]

Once I'm done with the regular textures I'll make some text ones, anyone have the front though?

[Heathen]

Now, we have popup targets obviously, but what about the Jackal targets?

What about the troophog outside of the fence.


As you can see I am very excited about this :D

Terrible thing is that we cant dual....throws off my strategy.
SMG/Mauler rapes.
I forgot...would OS make that possible?

[PenGuin1362]

I was hoping to get it exact, down to the last decal. And yes we have jackal ones too. We even have the camera that tracks player movement. Transport hogs and pelicans i believe will be ripped, just for the sake of saving time.

[Kalub]

_0/ Ripping never hurt anyone.



It looks badass you flightless bird you.

[p0lar_bear]

I was hoping to get it exact, down to the last decal. And yes we have jackal ones too. We even have the camera that tracks player movement. Transport hogs and pelicans i believe will be ripped, just for the sake of saving time.

Just yank the model of the troop hog from W4rtorn.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

We already have the troop hog and pelican covered.

[Heathen]

Just yank the model of the troop hog from W4rtorn.

I never like that one. It always looked wonky and it hovered a bit off the ground.

[§partan 8]

Love the details. Keep it up.

[Heathen]

Anything?

[Rook]

It's looking very nice, hopefully it'll be played upon release.

[PenGuin1362]

Bumpdate

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8159/texturingwip5mm0.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9110/texturingwip6st7.jpg

Not a whole lot left to do really. Skybox model (hanger model), finish sword room, few textures, and scenery.

[jngrow]

I assume once you got those grate thingies done, it was mostly textures?

But hey, Are you gonna model the little outside bases/put the pelicans out there? Cus dat wud be tite. And brute cut-outs.

Oh, and looks real good btw

[Inferno]

Awesome model is awesome.

[Lateksi]

Are you gonna model the little outside bases/put the pelicans out there? Cus dat wud be tite. And brute cut-outs.
I think you should make something different than what there is in Halo 3.
Looks damn good, though.

[PenGuin1362]

Point of this is to be an exact map replica. I want the bsp to be as close as possible. It's a "because I can" sort of thing...or a pride booster :p. Pelican's will be there, transport hogs, mountains, flying birds. I'd like to have this done by christmas, but realistically we're lookin at February.

[Kibito87]

Have you put thought into another level? I'm just wondering because I would like to see how well you can do other levels. This looks great by the way. I'm impressed. The last picture makes it look like you extracted everything straight from Halo 3. Nice job!

[Amross]

Will it include the halo 3 weapons?

[DarkHalo003]

Will it include the halo 3 weapons?
Yes. :eyesroll:

[ShadowSpartan]

It's looking really good penguin. Can't wait to play it.

[Reaper Man]

I hope you can get the airlifts to work decently online..

[Apoc4lypse]

I hope you can get the airlifts to work decently online..

just use like a "step teleporter" that makes it looks like u get thrown into the air, then u end up reletively where you would in the air in halo3 and can "move" through the air still from the top. It shouldn't lag, but there'd be issues with multiple players possibly.. it'll also look a lil strange, but relatively no lag... i dont think i never really tried it before, just a thought i always had after I was fukin around in spark edit long long ago (hpc) and linked teleporters through the air, fun stuff.

Otherwise you can use the "force" method too but that'l be laggy anyway.

Or ask jahrain how he did his cronopolis lifts, they were amazing, but they too lagged and were only in one of the betas. These are small lifts tho so that method could work with less problems.

ot: where the hell has jahrain been anyway... forgot about that dude, he like left completely... :confused2:

[n00b1n8R]

You wouldn't be able to be shot at if that were to be used. :downs:

[Hotrod]

Sometimes, it's better to make the map a little different, but with seamless gameplay, rather then use some laggy method to make it the same.

[Choking Victim]

Sometimes, it's better to make the map a little different, but with seamless gameplay, rather then use some laggy method to make it the same.
If we can't come up with a plan to pull them off using OS, then it'll probably just be teleporters. But its up to peng.

EDIT: There's a few things in the halo 1 engine we can use to simulate the effect, it's just a matter of finding a way to implement them. (No, I'm not talking about the damage_effect method.)

[Reaper Man]

Jahrain used projectiles that did no damage iirc, but they lagged due to the sheer amount of them.

[sevlag]

sword is horrible in CE, please DO NOT put the sword in

[ICEE]

Heh... Peng > h3mt

Im curious about the sword too though. It's a fairly vital part of the pit's game play (sword camping ftw) so I hope zteam has something up their sleeves to make it work well. Without lunge, it could work just fine but with CE's crappy netcode it would be far from the real deal, and almost completely ineffective. A shotgun would work well in the same place, but that just wouldn't be as cool. I don't know, but whatever. I'm very interested in this project.

[Sever]

I think a few scores of posts back it was stated that the Flamethrower would be located in the Ops Center in the classic version.

[Evil_Monkey]

Wow, those pics look really nice. Keep it up!

[PenGuin1362]

The flame thrower will most likely replace the sword in all versions.

[Sever]

Told ya so. Good design choice there, Pengy. Maybe if you could up it's range or make the flames sticky (much like H3's version), or some other augment to make it a tad bit more coveted.

[ODX]

The flame thrower will most likely replace the sword in all versions.I forgot to ask, what flamethrower do you mean by this? Will you use the Halo 3 one, with Third-Person as a support weapon, or do new animations for First-Person to still keep it in FP and keep the FOV(You see more in TP) the same?

[DarkHalo003]

I forgot to ask, what flamethrower do you mean by this? Will you use the Halo 3 one, with Third-Person as a support weapon, or do new animations for First-Person to still keep it in FP and keep the FOV(You see more in TP) the same?
Seeing as how how they are making the turret 3p, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't make the Flamethrower 3p. Still, who knows?

[Inferno]

Dude 3p flamer for halo 1. That's gonna be sick.

Unfortunately since penguin is re-making the pit I have to hurry up and release my re-make of the pit before he does cause his is gonna be 10x better than mine.

Shit...

[Reaper Man]

Dude 3p flamer for halo 1. That's gonna be sick.

Unfortunately since penguin is re-making the pit I have to hurry up and release my re-make of the pit before he does cause his is gonna be 10x better than mine.

Shit...
Uh.. what? He never said that it would be the Halo 3 flamethrower.

[DarkHalo003]

Uh.. what? He never said that it would be the Halo 3 flamethrower.
I hope it is. For some reasons, it's more fun to blast people with fire in 3p than it is in Fp. :hist101:

[ICEE]

He did say that it would have halo 3 weapons.

[`CaSs!~]

Will there also be a classic version?

[ShadowSpartan]

Will there also be a classic version?
Penguin has talked about this already, go back and look in the thread for the answer.

[`CaSs!~]

Sorry, this sounds like a nice project.

[NuggetWarmer]

Heh... Peng > h3mt

Im curious about the sword too though. It's a fairly vital part of the pit's game play (sword camping ftw) so I hope zteam has something up their sleeves to make it work well. Without lunge, it could work just fine but with CE's crappy netcode it would be far from the real deal, and almost completely ineffective. A shotgun would work well in the same place, but that just wouldn't be as cool. I don't know, but whatever. I'm very interested in this project.

Yeah, how long has Peng and Conscars been in modeling/texturing?

I'd say we're doing pretty damn good for a bunch of 13-16 year olds and one 35 year old who haven't been doing this for long.

Comparing people doesn't make anybody feel good. It just builds egos and makes others less likely to create content. You think H3MT sucks, well then don't play the maps. :) Not like we care who does and doesn't. We're taking our sweet time to bring cool stuff to the community. Tearing people down is NOT going to help the CE community grow at all.

[ICEE]

Way to be Mr sensitive. It was a joke. I never even said that h3mt sucks either.

[DarkHalo003]

Way to be Mr sensitive. It was a joke. I never even said that h3mt sucks either.
If H3MT would release Narrows within the next year....lol....:XD:

Anyways, I don't think I've commented on the new stuff, so I might as well say: GREAT FREAKING JOB! Looks awesome. I can't wait to see how it all looks in game. :D

[Advancebo]

I think you might want to make vehicles that are outside, actual vehicles that are undrivable and located on a death plane. Also I would be happy to make the sky, if someone could get me refs

[Choking Victim]

Already got it covered.

[onotix]

:O ive missed alot. this looks nice something im probably looking forward to more than spv2.

[DarkHalo003]

You know, I wonder just how many servers will have The Pit as their map when it's released? I expect like 7, but I really wonder how much the mapping servers out there will change when this is released.

[Kalub]

I want a The Pit (Classic)

[ShadowSpartan]

You know, I wonder just how many servers will have The Pit as their map when it's released? I expect like 7, but I really wonder how much the mapping servers out there will change when this is released.
Hopefully quite a lot will be running it. I can't wait to play this map, hurry and finish up the model so we can beta it Penguin!


I want a The Pit (Classic)
There will be one.

[PenGuin1362]

I want a The Pit (Classic)

This will be released before the halo 3 one, that's gunna take a while >_>.

As of right now the BSP model is 100% done. A few things need to be uv'd and only a few textures remain. Once everything is uv'd it's on to the skybox model, then scenery.

[Gwunty]

There better be some awesome shader mr. :eng101:

[Advancebo]

What he said :eng101:

[Con]

yeah whos doing shaders again :tinfoil:

[ShadowSpartan]

yeah whos doing shaders again :tinfoil:
Choking Victim.

[PenGuin1362]

aka the man who makes shaders his bitch

[Malevolence]

Oh, wow, this looks great. I can't wait to play it.

[PenGuin1362]

wEll we wEnt through and diD a quIck tesT with some of zteamS tags. no sceneRy yet. aLl that was dOne was shaders, thanks to cHoking victim (and huge thanks to consCars for the textures :)). it played pretty well. here's a little peak:

1984:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/1984.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/duck.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/spiked.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/distance.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/shot.jpg

[Heathen]

Hardly looks complete. Looks dark.

Still, CONGRATS :D

[Hotrod]

Damn that looks nice, can't wait to get my hands on it.

[Choking Victim]

Hardly looks complete. Looks dark.

Still, CONGRATS :D
Those aren't final lightmaps, just temporary ones.

[Inferno]

Sex

[ShadowSpartan]

It's already pretty fun to play currently, can't wait until it has the scenery and portals, going to be even more awesome.

[Pooky]

Is the spiker actually useful in that map?

I've yet to see a useful Spiker in CE, excepting the Fragment RC3B one

[Heathen]

I know that.

[NuggetWarmer]

Secret messages are fun. :o

[Heathen]

I wish you could lay the sniper up like it is on halo 3.

[Advancebo]

I wish you could lay the sniper up like it is on halo 3.

All you have to do is rotate the node thing in sapien, use a weapon tag as a ref to see how much to rotate the item collection.

[ShadowSpartan]

Is the spiker actually useful in that map?

I've yet to see a useful Spiker in CE, excepting the Fragment RC3B one
Didn't really use the spiker much to be honest, but I got a few kills with it. Everything will be thoroughly tested before release, like the brute shot, it was so powerful in this build.


Secret messages are fun. :o

Indeed.

[Masterz1337]

I found the spiker to be pretty good. Easier for me to aim with the leading.

[Advancebo]

A problem is, is how some textures just seem brighter than others, and dont blend well together. Also isnt the ground brighter pale stone than the dark green one, or is it the lightmaps?

[n00b1n8R]

specular pl0x

It hurts my eyes atm. :saddowns:

[Masterz1337]

That's why it's an alpha. How can you guys expect people to post pciture of WIP if you complain about it >_>.

[onotix]

That's why it's an alpha. How can you guys expect people to post pciture of WIP if you complain abou tit >_>.

lol wut?

[SnaFuBAR]

lol wut?
Stop posting like this, seriously. You're contributing nothing to any thread you post in.

Peng, it looks great so far man. How come I didn't get a testing invite D:

[n00b1n8R]

That's why it's an alpha. How can you guys expect people to post pciture of WIP if you complain abou tit >_>.
Well what else are we supposed to comment on?

Good job getting the model ingame?

[Masterz1337]

On most forums teams post pictures to show people that they're making progress and what the project looks like. The behavior on these forums is the exception rather than the norm.

[n00b1n8R]

On most forums teams post pictures to show people that they're making progress and what the project looks like. The behavior on these forums is the exception rather than the norm.
The behaviour being what exactly?

Assuming their posting it here for feedback?

Jee, I see how that would be a crazy assumption.

[Timo]

I think he means that you guys are giving crit on work that's obviously incomplete, after asking for screenshots of the map's progress.

E: Like telling someone a cake tastes horrible because you asked to see it (then decided to try) when it wasn't fully cooked.

[n00b1n8R]

Ah, didn't notice people asking. :)

[PenGuin1362]

Clearly there is much to be done. The point isn't to receive crit. The point is to give you guys updates on how we're doing so you're not left to assume the project has fallen victim to another endless trail.

No more discussion of it.

[Choking Victim]

specular pl0x

It hurts my eyes atm. :saddowns:
What hurts your eyes exactly? The concrete that doesn't shine unrealistically? The darkness? I refuse to add specular to the concrete shaders simply because ce's rendering engine will make it look like shit, concrete wouldn't shine in this environment anyway. The darkness will be fixed once final lightmaps are ran.

PS: The floor is going to be redone.

[n00b1n8R]

Where did I say anything about adding specular to the concrete? :confused:

[StankBacon]

lol choking victim

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/4894/jumptoconclusions2xk.jpg

[Choking Victim]

Where did I say anything about adding specular to the concrete? :confused:
It's an accurate assumption because everything else has specular. I guess you can't tell from the pics.

lol stankbacon,
-Insert topic-derailing stereotypical picture here.-

I was trying to get a better idea of what exactly you wanted me to fix, there's really no need for this...childish cock-like behavior.

[StankBacon]

i assumed he just meant for you to turn on specular in your graphics settings, because it looks like you have it off.

[Choking Victim]

i assumed he just meant for you to turn on specular in your graphics settings, because it looks like you have it off.
It was on in those pictures. Think of lightmaps as the specular mask for the shaders, if it's dark, its less shiny. That's why it looks like that currently.

[Matooba]

This mod is looking awesome!!! Good work!! I like the texture work in it. Very eye catching.

[PenGuin1362]

My graphics were set to high in all those pictures. Remember, lightmaps have a rather significant effect on things. Anyway I'm starting work on the skybox today. My hope of having this done by christmas seems to be a bit of a stretch but look forward to playing the CLASSIC version around January.

[Hotrod]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but there will be the Pelicans and the Troop Hogs outside of the map, right?

[PenGuin1362]

of course. Troop hog will be custom however, but the Pelican will be ripped. Simply for the sake of saving time.

[Hunter]

Me model troop hog? I really want a troop hog.

[leorimolo]

There is one at halomods if your interested its made by darkshallfall

[Hotrod]

Ripped Halo 3 Pelican? This is bound to be interesting.

[FRain]

Wow, see something like this be put up in a matter of a few months (or more, not sure) is awesome. Wish I could help you guys in some way, but I'm pretty much shitty at anything except animating, but I think that's pretty covered.

Looks awesome, can't wait.

[ShadowSpartan]

Me model troop hog? I really want a troop hog.
Penguin is modeling the troop hog himself.


Ripped Halo 3 Pelican? This is bound to be interesting.
Why? It is just a pelican.....

[{GR.DestroyerGR}]

is this map going to released soon?
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[teh lag]

is this map going to released soon?
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If you took the time to read the thread, you'd know the ETA. Calm the fuck down.

[{GR.DestroyerGR}]

now the map maker must put shadows and shaders

[DarkHalo003]

Map looks good so far. How balanced is the BR and Bshot compared to most other weapons though? Sometimes, both weapons can cause issues with balance, so I'm jsut wondering.

[ShadowSpartan]

Map looks good so far. How balanced is the BR and Bshot compared to most other weapons though? Sometimes, both weapons can cause issues with balance, so I'm jsut wondering.
The bruteshot is currently way overpowered, but it will be fixed. I did enjoy killing Masterz with it though :p.

{GR.DestroyerGR}, please leave this thread, as well as this site entirely if you can't control yourself from having "outbursts". I suggest you go read this thread (http://www.modacity.net/forums/announcement.php?f=2).

[DarkHalo003]

The bruteshot is currently way overpowered, but it will be fixed. I did enjoy killing Masterz with it though :p.

{GR.DestroyerGR}, please leave this thread, as well as this site entirely if you can't control yourself from having "outbursts". I suggest you go read this thread (http://www.modacity.net/forums/announcement.php?f=2).
Care to post a GIF of him getting pwned again (like that one where he got owned by that Terminal train)?lol. :dtonque:

[ODX]

Care to post a GIF of him getting pwned again (like that one where he got owned by that Terminal train)?lol. :dtonque:I doubt he/someone else recorded a video. And if you want a link to where that .gif of the Train Ownage is, I haz it :D

[ShadowSpartan]

Care to post a GIF of him getting pwned again (like that one where he got owned by that Terminal train)?lol. :dtonque:
Unfortunately I don't have any GIF's of him getting owned. Oh well, maybe next beta.

I don't want to get off topic, but here is the link to the train gif.
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/personal_files/shadow/masterzgotowned.gif

[Hotrod]

Why? It is just a pelican.....
Well, it'll be interesting to see some ripped Halo 3 models in Halo CE.

[Hunter]

is this map going to released soon?
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Will you GTFO! Halo Community forums, because if you are the same guy from modhalo.net then you deserve to die...

I am sick of reading your pathetic and pointless posts.

Ontopic: I am modelling the Mauler today Peng.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

We already have a mauler.

[Hunter]

I was asked to model one? :/

[DarkHalo003]

We already have a mauler.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of gameplay does a single mauler add compared to a shotgun? I mean, it can be used as it is in Halo3, but Halo1's melee is a bit funky in comparison. Not only that, but there really isn't a need for it with the flamethrower and shotty both in the map IMO. Still, some variety would be nice I guess?

[Inferno]

Give the mauler a faster rate of fire to keep it from just being a weak shotgun.

[ICEE]

Another solution would be to make it more accurate at a range than the shotgun.

[ShadowSpartan]

I was asked to model one? :/
No you weren't asked, but you seemed as if you wanted us to use yours. It is hardly on topic to mention that you are making one. To be honest, why would Penguin care if you are modeling the mauler?

[Hunter]

Penguin asked me ages ago. Well I asked him if he needed any Halo 3 models. And he said I could model him the mauler...

Why would I make bullshit up like that?

[Lateksi]

I know this is all about Halo 3, but I would do a shotgun with a spike.

[FRain]

That's the way it was last year in H3T. That was really weird having a pistol that fired a shitload of spikes at once.

[{GR.DestroyerGR}]

is any free beta map for my please?
My head is going to blow if i dont play the beta :D

[PenGuin1362]

Penguin asked me ages ago. Well I asked him if he needed any Halo 3 models. And he said I could model him the mauler...

Why would I make bullshit up like that?

I did ask a while ago. We do have a ripped one but go ahead and model it and if you can get it nicely textured then I may use that instead.

[HDoan]

is any free beta map for my please?
My head is going to blow if i dont play the beta :D
Then let it blow, you're not getting a beta because you asked for it.

[Lateksi]

That's the way it was last year in H3T. That was really weird having a pistol that fired a shitload of spikes at once.
I meant you could forget maulers and spikers and make a shotgun with blade(s). That way there would be no reason to be a sword on the map ...and I'm pretty sure no one wants a sword to Halo CE anymore.

[Alwin Roth]

I meant you could forget maulers and spikers and make a shotgun with blade(s). That way there would be no reason to be a sword on the map ...and I'm pretty sure no one wants a sword to Halo CE anymore.


a shotgun with blades would be kind of dumb.

i mean a blade and shotgun are both powerful only when its close range.
So why would you use a close range blade when you can simply blast them with the shotgun?

[Lateksi]

Well, you've got a point but a combo weapon like this could replace 3 less important weapons.

[Alwin Roth]

well still you dont really need the sword.

Plus if you do, then dont put it on a weapon that has close range

[NuggetWarmer]

Why not take away lunge? Sure, it's kinda the energy swords calling card, but still. Why not just make the secondary melee twice as strong as the normal melee, without lunge.

[Heathen]

Is there any way to make the melee animation fling you forward and then return you to the original position?

[ShadowSpartan]

If I recall correctly, we are populating the map with a flamethrower in place of the sword. About the shotgun with blades, no. It's not going to happen, so don't discuss it.

[Pooky]

If I recall correctly, we are populating the map with a flamethrower in place of the sword. About the shotgun with blades, no. It's not going to happen, so don't discuss it.

Gearbox's flamethrower is not all that useful outside of highly specific situations, are you guys going to be balance tweaking this flamer any?

[ShadowSpartan]

Gearbox's flamethrower is not all that useful outside of highly specific situations, are you guys going to be balance tweaking this flamer any?
It all depends on how the future beta tests go and what we decide needs to be tweaked to make gameplay better.