Pardon Our Dust.

[TeeKup]

The sniper is ingame, but the scope screen isn't cooperating. Until I can get it working, there won't be much seen of it.


Yes, I am hurrying to do that.

I hope you guys have at least tried to make the sniper rifle a heavy and powerful weapon as it was meant to be. Halo 3 got close with the slower rate of fire due to the recoil.

[teh lag]

ATTN laggy:

I believe you said you did the AR's bolt movement in the overlay because you couldn't get it to look right in the fire animation. I thought you should know, I found a pretty consistently successful way of timing the frames so it works nicely ingame. Because using the overlay for it just looks sloppy IMO. Let me know if your interested

Huh?

Bolt movement is is the fire animation. Unless you have a way of diabling animation interpolation, I don't think it's possible to make it better - it starts all the way back in the anim at frame 0 and remains until frame 3 before moving back.


I hope you guys have at least tried to make the sniper rifle a heavy and powerful weapon as it was meant to be. Halo 3 got close with the slower rate of fire due to the recoil.

I think you will be happy with what we have then.

[ICEE]

Huh?

Bolt movement is is the fire animation. Unless you have a way of diabling animation interpolation, I don't think it's possible to make it better - it starts all the way back in the anim at frame 0 and remains until frame 3 before moving back.

Really? it looks like its in the overlay in the betas I have, because the bolt doesnt move back forward until the player stops firing.

[teh lag]

Really? it looks like its in the overlay in the betas I have, because the bolt doesnt move back forward until the player stops firing.

Yeah, I'm irritated by it too. If anyone knows how to deactivate interpolation I'd love to know how.

P.S.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2596/thethingsidoforyoupeoplhk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2369/ohnohi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4176/ohgodoh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

NO, THE H2 ARMS ARE NOT PART OF THE CMT MOD
NO, BLOODGULCH IS NOT PART OF THE CMT MOD
THE LINES ON THE SNIPER'S METAL ARE THE RESULT OF A CUBEMAP, NOT THE SKIN
THE HAND IN THE FIRST PICTURE IS FROM THE THIRD-PERSON MODEL AND WILL HAVE ITS MARKER MOVED OVER

Stuff that will happen :

-Adding a reticle to the screen bitmap
-Getting a better cubemap for the gun
-Getting a better cubemap for the scope
-Moving the TP hand marker
-Fixing the color of the compass in FP

Stuff that may happen :

-Revising the sniper shaders given a general consensus
-Changing the scanline density

Stuff that won't happen :

-Editing the model for anything but an extreme problem
-Editing the skin beyond a miniscule adjustment
-Making the scope see-through. (Shader_models don't accept blended alpha, which would mean no smooth fade-out at the sides, which would result in ugliness beyond reason.)

[itszutak]

I like.

My only complaint: Those buttons on the side really stick out. I know they're designed to correspond to different scope settings, but they just look out of place and way too bright, especially when compared to the muted colors of the rest of the gun.

[Roostervier]

Nice stuff there, lag. : D

[ICEE]

Yeah, I'm irritated by it too. If anyone knows how to deactivate interpolation I'd love to know how.

Not sure what I've done different from you, but I feel like mine works pretty well http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z295/iron_clad_photo/animations/?action=view&current=sigmaarboltdemonstration.flv

Game lagged at around 5 seconds.

PS: if anyone wants to skin this for me...:D

[Roostervier]

n0mk-E0ajgQ&fmt=18
There it is in action (I uploaded it to my youtube for lag). It looks awesome. :3

e: Watch it on youtube to see it in high quality. d:

[Ifafudafi]

Awesome, but is that the only animation you have to show, or did I just miss the rest in an earlier post?

[Hunter]

Does the scope work like the Halo 3 scope? It looked like it did in the video.

[Roostervier]

No, halo ce isn't advanced enough for that.

[teh lag]

Awesome, but is that the only animation you have to show, or did I just miss the rest in an earlier post?

The entire set is done for the weapon. I just don't feel like putting together an entire video for something so insignificant.

[Hunter]

The buttons seam to bright and cell shaded. Maybe make them like the AR button?

[Rentafence]

That looks so fucking awesome. I hope you gave it a more powerful bad ass firing sound to suit it

[Hunter]

Yeah ^ I have always hated the sound.

Phwooossshhhhh (High Pitched) Sounds stupid. You want it sounding like a Barret 50Cal but a bit different. With some nice bass :)

Lmao, was on Cod4 at me mates house with bass pretty high, and you fucking knew when the 50cal was fired!

[Syuusuke]

He pushes the button like a girl.

That screen during the idle animation is fraggin awesome though.

[Amit]

He pushes the button like a girl.

That screen during the idle animation is fraggin awesome though.

Do you want him to mash the button with big meaty fingers, instead?

[Heathen]

Changing the scanline density < Do it.

And the buttons....they are a little bright, dont you agree? Looks like it was painted in MS paint after everything else. If anything, make them regular buttons the same color as the rest of the gun, but make the dot in the center the color of whatever setting.

I might ms paint what I am talking about in a few seconds if I dont crap myself from this stomach ache.


E:
Something like this hur.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/gfdghdfgh/untitled.jpg

Roughly done but you get me right?

[Syuusuke]

Do you want him to mash the button with big meaty fingers, instead?

And break the screen?

Hell yea.

[BobtheGreatII]

Now if only the little green reflection would change to gray also.

[Roostervier]

What little green reflection? I looked all over the gun and couldn't find one. :X

[Heathen]

I just thought that was some yellow paint on top.

[BobtheGreatII]

Oh... lol, I guess that too... My bad.

[DaneO'Roo]

the buttons are fine, they just need to not have the other colours lit, only when they're pressed, so they're not all on at once making uglyness in colour vomit.

[SnaFuBAR]

the buttons are fine, they just need to not have the other colours lit, only when they're pressed, so they're not all on at once making uglyness in colour vomit.
welp, dane, get out of my head.

[Heathen]

the buttons are fine, they just need to not have the other colours lit, only when they're pressed, so they're not all on at once making uglyness in colour vomit.

Well Christ man, thats so obvious it seemed complicated.

My idea feels dumb now.

[Pooky]

The entire set is done for the weapon. I just don't feel like putting together an entire video for something so insignificant.

I want to see the reload D:

[Heathen]

as do I.

And I know if I ask for more it lessens the chances of getting either, but I would also like to see the firing ani.

[Masterz1337]

Just wait for the mod. We're not changing anims if you guys don't like it anyway.

[Heathen]

lolkay

[FRain]

Actually, if its OK with lag, I can post the posing animation which is fucking amazing (scope screen changes colors).

[Bastinka]

I want more pictures >:|

[ICEE]

Actually, if its OK with lag, I can post the posing animation which is fucking amazing (scope screen changes colors).



n0mk-E0ajgQ&fmt=18
There it is in action (I uploaded it to my youtube for lag). It looks awesome. :3

e: Watch it on youtube to see it in high quality. d:


Has been said

[Pooky]

Just wait for the mod.

Oh, only a couple of decades then? :p

[Rob Oplawar]

I want that sniper rifle in me.
Er, BCE*

[Hunter]

Oh, only a couple of decades then? :p

Not too long now actually.

[dark57]

:O im lovin' that sniper.

[KiLLa]

Very sexy indeed...
I'm quiet suprised by some of the stuff you guys have managed, and a bit curious how some of it was pulled off..
All in all, good job :)

[Amit]

I want more pictures >:|

Pictures would be great but vids are the sex on the beach.

[Con]

That screen is sweeter than a lolipop. That's right.

[FRain]

damn, conna.

[Billyboi456]

When is this going to come out if, Masterz1337 if your sticking with your plan for SPv2 to come out in 2008 then I'd be psyched and i really hope you guys don't postpone it

[teh lag]

When is this going to come out if, Masterz1337 if your sticking with your plan for SPv2 to come out in 2008 then I'd be psyched and i really hope you guys don't postpone it

We're not sticking to that. When we come up with a date we'll post it, but until then no good will come from asking.

[Billyboi456]

awe man you guys got my hopes up then brought them crashing to the ground

[Roostervier]

You got your own hopes up. Just find something else to do while you wait. <_<

[Billyboi456]

yah im still playing spv1 so i'll finish that up an d hopefully spv2 will be done soon

[Heathen]

Is there a place to get the original SPV1 maps besides Halomaps? Like on ebigole rar file?

Wanna get some mates psyched.

[Edward Elrich]

www.google.com
Search the map name and add CMT to the string. (i.e. Pillar of Autumn CMT, Halo CMT, Truth and Reconciliation CMT, etc.) You should be able to find more than one map at the download place.

[seanthelawn]

Is there a place to get the original SPV1 maps besides Halomaps? Like on ebigole rar file?

http://halo2.filefront.com/file/CMT_Full_Conversion;65603

[Heathen]

Well is there no big rar of them all?

[seanthelawn]

That is a big rar of them all.

[Heathen]

didnt see that post. thx.

[Amit]

lol, shoot yourself in the head if FireFox decides to cut off randomly. I, however, do not need to worry about that because FireFox works the way it's supposed to!

Waiting is half the fun. For me, it's much more satisfying to see the evolution of a mod coming together after a few years of development. It's mature and allowed the team to have time to improve and see their improvement. Also, time allows for the better overall experience since people are still finding new ways to amaze us with this old, but not yet crumbling proprietary engine. Imagine how satisfying it'll be for them to see their baby go from a teen (SPV1) to an adult(SPV2).

[Heathen]

You know, I much rather the damage indicators from the 71007 beta.

[p0lar_bear]

I also think the damage indicators are far too intrusive... perhaps make them a dimmer blue and decrease the opacity?

[FRain]

Yeah. Also, thin the lines out.

[Masterz1337]

Jeeze we would have never thought of that.

We play this everyday guys, we're well aware of what needs to be changed.

[Kornman00]

:raise: *sniff sniff*

Apparently lag's diaper isn't one of them

[teh lag]

what

[Masterz1337]

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6176/haloce12008121616500425xq3.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2430/haloce12008121616525684is9.jpg

[Heathen]

Jeeze we would have never thought of that.

We play this everyday guys, we're well aware of what needs to be changed.

Well damn, we know that, but like in SP1, some shit got put in that really wasn't THAT great...just making sure they arent perminant.

[Masterz1337]

So by the same logic I should be warned to not put my hand on the stove because I did it when I was little. SPV1 was a rush job done in 6th months with less than cooperative team members who were determined to undermine others. Not to mention, we were all armatures and really had no clue what we were doing.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6176/haloce12008121616500425xq3.jpg
I think the sniper seems a bit too far away from the body, in that view, especially compared to the 3p view, but it also seems too close, holding it like that would be a bit uncomfortable.
This is all just imo though, do what you wish.

[=sw=warlord]

Hmm, first picture seems rather interesting not too keen on second though.
keep it up.

[Heathen]

Sexy pics.

And Masterz. I respect your logic but this IS a forum and I will voice my opinion. I am not disrespectful and if you have plans to fix it or dont feel like talking about simply ignore my little tidbits of "ew at this and ew at that"

Srsly tho, those pics are sex.

E: Though I do agree that the sniper seems too far but too high maybe?

[p0lar_bear]

I know it's annoying, but look at it this way: If what we suggest has been planned without you telling us beforehand, then that means that you're doin it rite.

Plus, would you rather have people actively pointing out things for the sake of improving the mod, or a bunch of yes-men who just post for the sake of kissing ass?

Hell, perhaps in future updates, especially if you still post them to like, Halomaps or whatever, you should intentionally screw up something that's somewhat obvious just to see if people are paying attention. Free game of Where's Waldo? with every update! :downs:

[paladin]

That's a big explosion. I wish I can make them that big. :XD:

[n00b1n8R]

What's with the lines on the sniper barrel? Especially on the part where it cones in at the start.

[FRain]

I know it's annoying, but look at it this way: If what we suggest has been planned without you telling us beforehand, then that means that you're doin it rite.

Plus, would you rather have people actively pointing out things for the sake of improving the mod, or a bunch of yes-men who just post for the sake of kissing ass?

Hell, perhaps in future updates, especially if you still post them to like, Halomaps or whatever, you should intentionally screw up something that's somewhat obvious just to see if people are paying attention. Free game of Where's Waldo? with every update! :downs:

My mind concludes that this man makes an asston of sense.

[Hunter]

Kissing bum cheeks ftw :) jk.

That picture does look really nice. You going to re make any rocks with a bit of mudbox and texture bakeing?

[DEElekgolo]

The sniper's visor reminds me of fallout 3's retro screens.

[ßLÃRGÄN]

Is the Chief's visor glowing?

Heh, just joking. Great work and all the other stuff kiss-assers say. I know I will appreciate the fine work you and the others have done--I'm already appreciating it right now with the samples you've provided... mm...

[=sw=warlord]

Hmm, considering how much light is being emmited by the explosion the area is rather dark.

[sevlag]

Hell, perhaps in future updates, especially if you still post them to like, Halomaps or whatever, you should intentionally screw up something that's somewhat obvious just to see if people are paying attention. Free game of Where's Waldo? with every update! :downs:
that sir is a briliant plan to test out.

the pics were dark but then again it IS T&R so I really wont complain.

I do have to agree with the sniper looking like its too far away.

anyways, its nice to see some pics of other levels other than a30 or SC (I can't remember Silent's map file name as well as I can Halo's >.<)

[Amit]

that sir is a briliant plan to test out.


There it is again. Kissing ass.

[Arteen]

a10
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/a10_001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/a10_002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/a10_003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/a10_004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/a10_005.jpg
I had some pics of the new areas, but they apparently have stuff that Masters want to take out.

b40
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/b40_002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/b40_003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/b40_004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/b40_005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/b40_006.jpg

d40
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/d40_004.jpg

[Ki11a_FTW]

Intresting

[Heathen]

Badassery ensued.

And the guy behind me, Cody, is a homosexual.

E: Its not not what it seems.

[Alwin Roth]

is Cmt planning to make Grunt floods and Hunter Floods???

[Heathen]

Hunters and grunts cant be flooded I dont think.

Hunters are made of a group of eel like creatures.

Grunts maybe, but I think the poisonous blood is what makes them immune.

[Inferno]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/a10_005.jpgThe plasma tiles waaaay to much. Its kind of :puke:

Everything else is very nice though.

[teh lag]

The plasma tiles waaaay to much. Its kind of :puke:

Everything else is very nice though.

oh thanks dude we didnt notice that


is Cmt planning to make Grunt floods and Hunter Floods???

no We are not???

[Inferno]

Sorry. Just a instant reaction to complain.

[Roostervier]

The carrier forms look like grunts to me anyway, look at the legs (maybe... I haven't seen them in a while tbh). Even if they aren't really meant to be. d:

[Heathen]

oh thanks dude we didnt notice that

Theres that masters-esque sense of humor.

Why do you guys hate criticism so much? The same people that fuss at those that dont take criticism.

[teh lag]

Theres that masters-esque sense of humor.

Why do you guys hate criticism so much? The same people that fuss at those that dont take criticism.

I would hardly call that geniune criticism; it was stating the obvious. Something as trivial as the tiling on a plasma shader isn't something that needs analysis and feedback.

[KiLLa]

blaah, don't post shotty shield shots, if you don't want the obvious pointed out, is the obvious answer :)
Anywho, lookin good! hopefully I'll have a 8800GT by the time this comes out!

[n00b1n8R]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/cmt/b40_005.jpg

What did AotCR ever do to you. :smith:

[Heathen]

holy cow thats aotcr?

[PopeAK49]

Awsome you made the flood alittle more grotesque.

[Masterz1337]

It doesn't have the water or DOBCs inserted yet. Or new ground map for that matter.

[Masterz1337]

Theres that masters-esque sense of humor.

Why do you guys hate criticism so much? The same people that fuss at those that dont take criticism.
The majority of people who make a big fuss about people not being able to take critisim are the ones who enjoy the drama. You really think I critted Strider, DA Ender, Frain, Hunter, DeeHunter because I wanted them to get better or I enjoyed watching them make a fool of themselves? No offence to Rossmum in his olden days, but theres a person who thrives off forum drama, and what makes the most drama on the forum?

Crit was initially used as a mean to attack people within the rules, then you were all stupid enough to belive us (by US I don't mean CMT, but other people on this forum who are nototious for said crit) when we said we were trying to help. It really dates back to the gearbox days, when the administration wouldn't do anything about the "unwanted" people in the community (ie strider) so members of the forums needed a way to attack them within the rules.

[teh lag]

What did AotCR ever do to you. :smith:

See, commenting on something like this actually *IS* valid.


Masterz... huh?

[mech]

Nice stuff CMT, will there be a custom UI to go along with this mod?

[Masterz1337]

It's still up in the air. Depends what the status of the Delta Halo UI is.

[StankBacon]

never coming out.

[Hotrod]

What happened to the Flood with armor? Are they still in there, mixed with the others that don't have any?

[Masterz1337]

Yes

[DarkHalo003]

Yes
Are the Flood without armor the ones that are weaponless, or are they just another way to form variety with bipeds? Either way, the more the merrier.

[Roostervier]

My guess is that they are just random permutations.

[ICEE]

never coming out.

Well then it matches SPV2's status. Perfect :awesome:


in all seriousness, I want to see that anti air wraith in action. I know you went a different way with it than h3's, so i'd like to experiment with it.

[Hotrod]

Yes
Alright, thanks.

[Amit]

Grunts maybe, but I think the poisonous blood is what makes them immune.

Grunts turn into carrier forms. :eng101:


Are the Flood without armor the ones that are weaponless, or are they just another way to form variety with bipeds? Either way, the more the merrier.

Why would armour on a flood form mean that it can't use a weapon? It's for variety of permutations. And yes, the more the merrier of the creepy bastards running at you head on.

[Rob Oplawar]

I have to comment that I see some abysmally bad environment shaders in there. But as I hear it, this thing isn't actually "done" yet. :P

[Hunter]

The majority of people who make a big fuss about people not being able to take critisim are the ones who enjoy the drama. You really think I critted Strider, DA Ender, Frain, Hunter, DeeHunter because I wanted them to get better or I enjoyed watching them make a fool of themselves? No offence to Rossmum in his olden days, but theres a person who thrives off forum drama, and what makes the most drama on the forum?

Crit was initially used as a mean to attack people within the rules, then you were all stupid enough to belive us (by US I don't mean CMT, but other people on this forum who are nototious for said crit) when we said we were trying to help. It really dates back to the gearbox days, when the administration wouldn't do anything about the "unwanted" people in the community (ie strider) so members of the forums needed a way to attack them within the rules.

And his crit worked :)

[Roostervier]

It doesn't have the water or DOBCs inserted yet. Or new ground map for that matter.
Wait what? Why are you adding water? :\

[Masterz1337]

Frozen lakes melt?

We were discussing last night an easier approach than adding water, I think the water will look really cool though,

[Arteen]

I think the frozen lakes look kind of cool.

[TeeKup]

I'm rather interested in seeing a tropical AoTCR.....however the grass needs work...

[Heathen]

Yeah. Thats my biggest fear. I hope the textures fit well. Alot in SP1 was kinda ugly.

[Roostervier]

Frozen lakes melt?

We were discussing last night an easier approach than adding water, I think the water will look really cool though,
You could always say that the lakes had dried up. <_<

Tbh I don't see how water would work... I just can't. :\

[n00b1n8R]

Tropical wetlands, as if the area was stuck in a perpetual state of low tide.

[TrU7H]

Great updates, good to see CMT still on the move =)

[Kalub]

It's a lie.

[Reaper Man]

I hope you guys turned the frozen waterfall into a massive running one. I'm glad you've done this - I'd always wanted a spring/summer aotcr. I hope you've removed Cortana mentioning "malfunctioning weather" as clearly now it isn't.

[Sever]

As reaper said, remove the comment from that section. Find somewhere else early on in the campaign that'll work for it. If I recollect correctly, T&R will have a winter climate now, so just stick it in there somewhere. I'd think that right after the first covert sniping area would work well.

[Pooky]

Yeah. Thats my biggest fear. I hope the textures fit well. Alot in SP1 was kinda ugly.

The only thing that bothered me in spv1 texture wise was the god awful rape of the maw escape :gonk:

[ICEE]

Hi, guys. SPV1 != SPV2 in all ways. Don't worry about it.

[Pooky]

Hi, guys. SPV1 != SPV2 in all ways. Don't worry about it.

they both have the master chief in them you liar :mad:

was just saying though.

[Apoc4lypse]

I would hardly call that geniune criticism; it was stating the obvious. Something as trivial as the tiling on a plasma shader isn't something that needs analysis and feedback.

yet its the same type of obvious criticism thats always given out by everyone around here whenever something is posted, and is repeated like 100 times till the person finally lashes out at everyone, hypocracy is a two-way street.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Sorry just thought I should throw my two-cents into the thread, even if it is a page or two late.

E: ot :party: looks like a candy cane in his mouth xD

e2: no really I dont have any criticism to give to your mod yet really most of it looks pretty nice and unique, the only things I dislike are obvious things that shud end up being fixed by the time the mods out anyway.

[ShadowSpartan]

LMFAO @ Thread Tags.

cmt (http://www.modacity.net/forums/tags.php?tag=cmt), halo custom edition (http://www.modacity.net/forums/tags.php?tag=halo+custom+edition), haloce (http://www.modacity.net/forums/tags.php?tag=haloce), lag's diaper (http://www.modacity.net/forums/tags.php?tag=lag%27s+diaper), update (http://www.modacity.net/forums/tags.php?tag=update)
.....seriously? Why post something like that, all it does is clutter up the thread.

[Bastinka]

You should delete some of Cortanas dialogue, or replace it with your own.

I despised her voice, nails on a chalkboard.

[ShadowSpartan]

You should delete some of Cortanas dialogue, or replace it with your own.
Hmm, Masterz using his voice for Cortana. That would make for an....interesting campaign. :p

[Syuusuke]

You can't hate on Jen Taylor.

He would probably mask it anyway.

Would he?

[Inferno]

Hmm, Masterz using his voice for Cortana. That would make for an....interesting campaign. :p

It would be like cortana was useing steroids and got all buff. And grew some balls.

[Heathen]

Masterz....all buff? Not my image of him at all.

[Inferno]

Well since all he does is beat the crap out of fan boys in his spare time I imagine him a tough guy.

[Amit]

Hmm, Masterz using his voice for Cortana. That would make for an....interesting campaign. :p

I would hurt anyone who says Jen Taylor's voice sucks but I'd like to have somebody redo her lines in a Darth Vader voice changer :neckbeard:


Well since all he does is beat the crap out of fan boys in his spare time I imagine him a tough guy.

Interwebz and RL are two very different places, my friend. With fan boys impeding his progress it's no wonder he has no spare time.

[ICEE]

I don't see how its possible for fanboys to impede progress if you don't let them. Unless of course they're literally laying across your keyboard.

[Masterz1337]

They do pop up alot on xfire when i'm writing scripts

[FRain]

Get a non-obvious AIM or Xfire. That simple.

[DrunkenSamus]

Get a non-obvious AIM or Xfire. That simple.

Such as slippercreamphone69

[Heathen]

chodehoagie69

I am pretty sure he was saying it for the sake of argument though.

[DrunkenSamus]

chodehoagie69

I am pretty sure he was saying it for the sake of argument though.

A huge chode sandwich? Doesn't sound very pleasant. :(

[{GR.DestroyerGR}]

Has been said
noo i dont like this sniper because it is from halo 2

[Amit]

Get a non-obvious AIM or Xfire. That simple.

He shouldn't have to.

[Arteen]

He shouldn't have to.
And it becomes inconvenient for everyone he works with.

[Heathen]

Christmas release.

A girl can dream :rolleyes:

[Inferno]

Yeah, Christmas 2009 is a bit of a fantasy release date eh?

[DrunkenSamus]

Yeah, Christmas 2009 is a bit of a fantasy release date eh?

Woahhhhhhhhh, this is sarious. :v:

[Daishi]

Hey man, any date is better than no date.

[Masterz1337]

Merry Christmas
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8590/haloce12008122512041264jc8.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6784/haloce12008122512035257jg2.jpg
Yeah I know stretched UVs, Bungie's mistake, not ours, and we're not going to be fixing something that is so small and the player won't recognize.

[Heathen]

smexy

[Inferno]

Hey, if you don't want to fix it. Blame it on bungie.

Nice pics btw.

[ICEE]

Hey hey lovin it. Is it possible to shoot off the armor on those guys like it is with the brutes?

[Heathen]

Doubt it.

[ICEE]

I don't see why not (granted I know nothing of tagspace). They have the base model and the method.

[Masterz1337]

Complex collision models are killers for tagspace.

[FRain]

Yeah, Christmas 2009 is a bit of a fantasy release date eh?

What about Christmas 2012?
owait

[sdavis117]

I may want to play this single player campaign, but not as the last thing to do before I die :D.

And I don't remember flood spores on "Keyes". Is my memory betraying me?

[Hotrod]

No, the Flood Spores were adding in with SPv2, or, they will be.

And damn, those Flood are sexy.

[dark57]

:neckbeard: wow im lovin' it.

[Kalub]

Masters, let me put my love into you; with my dick. :)

[Syuusuke]

Dude that's way too much dust to pardon.

in a good way

[Rob Oplawar]

Yeah, Christmas 2009 is a bit of a fantasy release date eh?

rofl

[Masterz1337]

Masters, let me put my love into you; with my dick. :)

nty

Lag's responsible for those elite flood. Express your satisfactions to him ;)

[Inferno]

Which is going to be released first?
Duke Nuke'm Forever or CMT SPv2?

[SnaFuBAR]

cmt spv2 easily.

[Heathen]

dammit snaf. I dont know if you were being clever or if that really did fly over your head.

I hate your personality because its fucking confusing.

Either way, cant +rep you.

[SnaFuBAR]

:dodgy:

[sevlag]

Yeah I know stretched UVs, Bungie's mistake, not ours, and we're not going to be fixing something that is so small and the player won't recognize.never sweat the small stuff unless the small stuff is what leads to big problems, but a small UV stretchin don't matter.

I like the new flood elite look, what about the marine combat form? alittle more armor on it or the likes? I'm just asking because I'd like to know

[Heathen]

Nah, Just the Elites :rolleyes:

[dark57]

http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-fappery.gif

[Heathen]

I cant wait to have some Country Music Television in my Halo.

[El Lobo]

Hey I havn't done anything for this project, but can I beta test? That is if there is anything to test, I havn't paid much attention.

[Heathen]

Most likely not.

[El Lobo]

Heathen let me handle this, i'm very persuasive.

[n00b1n8R]

Yeah guys, this is Lobo we're talking about.

He's more important than you, don't ya know. http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-pseudo.gif

[BobtheGreatII]

Heathen let me handle this, i'm very persuasive.

:raise:

[El Lobo]

I don't agree with that at all.

Agree to disagree.

[Heathen]

Obviously. Place some bets?

[NuggetWarmer]

No, you can't beta test.

[Masterz1337]

The lobster can betatest. ;)

[El Lobo]

Ah, knew I was persuasive. <3

[Heathen]

That doesn't count...I forgot your sleeping with the developers D:<

[Amit]

That doesn't count...I forgot your sleeping with the developers D:<

Don't feel left out, they'll all have Aids by the end of it. Yup, lob is an HIV bastard.

[mech]

That doesn't count...I forgot your sleeping with the developers D:<

Ugh, Lobo isn't a homosexual.

[Hotrod]

Ah, knew I was persuasive. <3
Am I persuasive?:(

[Apoc4lypse]

Don't feel left out, they'll all have Aids by the end of it. Yup, lob is an HIV bastard.

I lol'd

Yea I was never fully a HIV bastard but I hung around some of them everynow and then. So I do occasionally end up sleeping with the devs. :O

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Ugh, Lobo isn't a homosexual.

Doesnt Have to be.

[Masterz1337]

Lag and I were having a discussion about explosions....

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4959/haloce12008122822104915nj9.jpg



Ignore the little specs flying around, those are from a sandstorm I was working on in my test map and never removed.

This type of explosion replaces the super low res ones that you see in most of halo's explosions.

[Reaper Man]

Pretty sweet. Does it come in blue for the covie explosions :-3?

[DrunkenSamus]

Pretty sweet. Does it come in blue for the covie explosions :-3?

It looks like its in one piece but there's an explosion. :eyesroll:

[Inferno]

Welcome to Halo Custom Edition.

[Masterz1337]

Pretty sweet. Does it come in blue for the covie explosions :-3?

Yep, and green for fuel rod explosions. :)

[Hotrod]

That's pretty nice, much better than those shitty SPv1 fires and explosions.

[Heathen]

Doesnt Have to be.
I was gonna say that.


Lag and I were having a discussion about explosions....


Looks good but is it good in motion?


That's pretty nice, much better than those shitty SPv1 fires and explosions.

Ugh yes, I hated the explosion for the BRG.

E: I'm seeing that the splazer didnt go through that vehicle. Is that perminant?

[n00b1n8R]

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4959/haloce12008122822104915nj9.jpg
Not a fan. Too curly and mottled for my tastes.

[Rosco]

Ah, knew I was persuasive. <3

A bit off topic, but do you remember how awesome that newgrounds balloon game was. :)

That was the last game I played with you before everyone disappeared. :(

GJ masters, the first SP mod was good fun, I'll find my disc and figure out my cd key from memory to play the new one when it comes out. :) yes, I've reinstalled so many times I basically know my cd key off by heart. XD

[El Lobo]

Which version did we play? Did you know v3 is out? :D

http://www.addictinggames.com/bloonstd3.html

[Hunter]

Look WAY better than Halo explosions. But I think it could do with a explosion sphere thing which Halo 3 has. And maybe some more smoke mixed in.

Needs to look like a more powerful explosion as well, so it could with something like a star shape which you had in the muliplayer CMT maps explosions. And some more sparks?

Looks nice though.

[supersniper]

Meh they're ok but it doesn't seem like a real explosion... IDK something about it doesn't seem right.

[Dwood]

An improvement over other explosions in the game:

It's okay but makes some mistakes many games do.

A little too much fire too spread out. Perhaps trying to concentrate the color a bit more instead of spreading the burning parts of the explosion all over the place?

You're probably already doing this but look for copter explosions and compare.

[Masterz1337]

It was never meant to be realistic, and as far as edits the only thing that can be really done is edits to the bitmap, which I think looks fine. Particle systems can't be controlled as much as they can be manipulated into working. Bungie completely abandoned them as they were in H1 for H2.

[FRain]

^ Yes. I've tried to make decent explosion particles, and I was fucking around in the particle system tag for hours and I could never get it right. That looks actually pretty decent.

Although it looks like someone actually engineered the explosion, I don't think you can get much better than that. I'd make it a little more natural.

[Dwood]

It was never meant to be realistic, and as far as edits the only thing that can be really done is edits to the bitmap, which I think looks fine. Particle systems can't be controlled as much as they can be manipulated into working. Bungie completely abandoned them as they were in H1 for H2.

Oh okay. That part I didn't know. Never tried to edit an explosion before.

[FRain]

Oh okay. That part I didn't know. Never tried to edit an explosion before.
Yeah. Particle systems are a pain in the ass.

[Billyboi456]

although the new explosion is awesome compared to old ones, i think theres a little too much fire, almost like Hollywood explosions were they use lots of gasoline instead of actual explosives

also i think it would help get some better feedback if you showed us a short vid of the explosion, just my opinion

[Masterz1337]

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9128/smglagrecontk6.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2952/smglagreconfphw5.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5836/smglagrecon2bh8.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8923/smglagreconscopeprogresfn2.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5469/haloce12008122901280864es6.jpg
Ignore the decal mishap on the last pic.


Which scope do you think looks best, and if you don't like any of them, we want ideas on what can be done to make them better or examples of other aim assists we may want to look into. The last pic will be a red dot scope if we chose to use it.


Edit: as an example of red dot scopes
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11071604/Red_Dot_Scopes_Sights_And_Redfield_Rifle_Scopes.jp g

Edit2: Thisis not replaceing the regualr SMG, this will only be available as an option on certain parts of the first 5 missions.

[Inferno]

Holy mother fucker. :eek:

Red dot and acog look very nice. Iron sights... not so much.

I want you to have my babys.

[Advancebo]

New weapon this late into the process?

I like this one
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8923/smglagreconscopeprogresfn2.jpg

[FRain]

Definitely the red dot scope on the last one. Sexy.

[SnaFuBAR]

glad you took my advice and use the CRDS instead of the scope.

[Masterz1337]

We're not using it yet. Seems like the red dot scope is getting most of the votes.

[teh lag]

New weapon this late into the process?

Huh? It's been posted plenty of times before this...

[Advancebo]

Huh? It's been posted plenty of times before this...

O, nvm then, I havent been here much.

Also, I like this red dot scope model better
http://store.matrixbb.com/catalog/Scope_RD_Action_lg2.gif

[Pooky]

New weapon this late into the process?

I like this one



This.

Scope on the SMG is fucking retarded. I'd rather be able to see what I'm shooting at.

[dark57]

the scope on the smg looks hawt :D

[Heathen]

Red dot ftw.

[Disaster]

O, nvm then, I havent been here much.

Also, I like this red dot scope model better
http://store.matrixbb.com/catalog/Scope_RD_Action_lg2.gif
Thats an ACOG scope mate and that would look terrible on the SMG :downs:

[Rentafence]

Go with the iron sights. I'd prefer something custom instead of a red dot sight that exists IRL.

[Masterz1337]

They all exist in real life, or in H3 ODST.

[SnaFuBAR]

Putting a rifle scope on an smg looks stupid as hell.

[FRain]

Putting a rifle scope red dot pointer on an smg looks stupid as hell.

ftfy.

That is not an ACOG scope. That is a red dot laser, v2.

[Corndogman]

I agree with Advancebo, I don't know what that type of scope is called though. I'd like to see how it looks ingame though before I would decide. The red dot looks good ingame but doesn't make sense on an SMG.

[Hotrod]

Putting a rifle scope on an smg looks stupid as hell.
That, or putting something that looks like a rifle scope onto it (such as that laser sight 2.0 thingy). I say that you should put on the second option on, it's the one that looks best on it.

[SnaFuBAR]

ftfy.

That is not an ACOG scope. That is a red dot laser, v2.

AFAIK it has magnification and is calibrated for rifle cartridge trajectory. I didn't say it was an ACOG, l2 read.

[Masterz1337]

Tbh, no one on the team gives a fuck about the accuracy of the attachment to real life guns. We just care what looks best.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Well it doesnt make any sence to have the scope on it since the weapon is an inaccurate weapon, unlike the BR or Pistol that actually have it for a purpose.
Also, the SMG gets a lot less distance then the BR or pistol too.

[Masterz1337]

That reasoning doesn't really apply, it's just a glorifie laser scope which provides the same functionality as ironsights would.

It all comes down to looks, there's no zoom or scoping capabilities. The specop SMG, is just like the regular except it has slower rate of fire and slightly less spread, and it's going to stay that way, regardless of which attachment is applied.

[Ki11a_FTW]

If it had to be anything, I'd personally go with the red dot scope.

[Heathen]

Tbh, no one on the team gives a fuck about the accuracy of the attachment to real life guns. We just care what looks best.

this.

red dot plzkthx.

[dark57]

so your saying even if you put the acog on it there wont even be a zoom?

[Ki11a_FTW]

its gonna act like the normal smg gameplay wise

[Masterz1337]

I don't think anyone on the team even knows what an ACOG is, but the specop smg has a slightly lower ROF (less recoil as a side effect) and is a bit more accurate. It's still a high powered bullet hose though.

[Heathen]

high powered bullet hose
yay

[Disaster]

ftfy.

That is not an ACOG scope. That is a red dot laser, v2.
http://dynamicarmament.com/images/TRIJICON2007/ACOG-TRD-031.jpg
Thats an ACOG scope and ACOG scopes are meant for Rifles :|

E: What snaf said

[Inferno]

Call of Duty 4 lied to me!

[markopolo]

i like this one for the smg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8923/smglagreconscopeprogresfn2.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8923/smglagreconscopeprogresfn2.jpg)

[Inferno]

Good choice and Welcome to the forums.

[markopolo]

Thanks. I like that one better than the other red-dot because I personally wouldn't want a scope that big on a SMG as you're usually close combat with it. Though whatever you do with it will be ok and cool cause you guys are putting the time in for these mods.

[Heathen]

yes. It'd be pointless. Besides, other is ugly.

[SnaFuBAR]

I like the new guy, he seems to be smarter than a few.

[DaneO'Roo]

I like the new guy, he seems to be smarter than a few.

I agree.

Scope is stupid, what new guy posted is cool, just with a ammo indicator of some sort inbuilt into the glass like a screen, just in the corner, not necessarily numbers rather a simple bar loader.

[Hotrod]

I like the new guy, he seems to be smarter than a few.
Agreed, he seems like a pretty smart guy, we should all go up and cuddle with him.:)

[Amit]

That reasoning doesn't really apply, it's just a glorifie laser scope which provides the same functionality as ironsights would.

It all comes down to looks, there's no zoom or scoping capabilities. The specop SMG, is just like the regular except it has slower rate of fire and slightly less spread, and it's going to stay that way, regardless of which attachment is applied.

So let's get this straight. Neither SMGs have zooming capabilities? The attachments are purely for looks besides the laser pointer which would replace the need for iron sights gameplay wise?


http://dynamicarmament.com/images/TRIJICON2007/ACOG-TRD-031.jpg
Thats an ACOG scope and ACOG scopes are meant for Rifles :|


That is an ACOG sight. The one that he posted had a tad bit of magnification but not really enough to be significant. It's still a red dot sight. ACOG sights recharge in sunlight and usually have crosshairs in the sighting lense, not a red dot.


Thanks. I like that one better than the other red-dot because I personally wouldn't want a scope that big on a SMG as you're usually close combat with it. Though whatever you do with it will be ok and cool cause you guys are putting the time in for these mods.

I agree and vote for Markopolo's choice. That red dot reflex sight looks best. The style from COD4. An Eotech sight might be most suitable, though.

Red Dot Reflex:

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/images/reviews/TSD%20MP5N/5.jpg

Eotech:

http://www.triplebreakproducts.com/images/EOTech/EOTECH1.jpg
http://www.triplebreakproducts.com/images/EOTech/EOTECH2.jpg

[markopolo]

I love the Eotech, especially in COD4. But it still seems a little too big for a SMG.

[Heathen]

I think its a great idea. Keep it.

[Amit]

I love the Eotech, especially in COD4. But it still seems a little too big for a SMG.

Basically. Wait, how about using a red dot reflex sight model with the Eotech reticle pattern or projected "image" to compensate for the spread. Wait, if there is no aim down the sight function that last part about the spread matters not.


I think its a great idea. Keep it.

Which one's a good idea?

[Heathen]

red dot

[AAA]

...................... Why the hell does Master Chief need a scope for his smg NOW?

..... Why does the SMG need a scope in the first place?

If you want the red dot, put it RIGHT under the silenced barrel. Saves room, time, efficiency, and looks less bulky and still pertaining to the Awesome Silenced SMG style.

[Heathen]

Why

Because it looks awesome.

[markopolo]

I agree with Heathen.

[Heathen]

then I like you

[NuggetWarmer]

Mastercheif might not need a scope, but aren't you forgetting your marine friends? :)

[Heathen]

exactly. This would have most likely been dropped by a fellow marine.

or ODST

[Daishi]

I like the electrosight. No need for bulky scopes, just a nice dot in the middle of a clear screen kthx.

[Amit]

If you want the red dot, put it RIGHT under the silenced barrel. Saves room, time, efficiency, and looks less bulky and still pertaining to the Awesome Silenced SMG style.

how do you look down a sight if it's underneath the gun?

[KiLLa]

I say a silencer AND red dot is kinda meh...
Considering a silencers dumbs down the range to begin with, and should only be used in stealth-like situations..
I say one or the other, but that's my opinion..

[BobtheGreatII]

how do you look down a sight if it's underneath the gun?

He just said red dot, not red dot scope. I think he was just talking about a pointer.