Halo 1 Modding 4-Player Coop and Beyond- Now coming to your nearest modded Xbox :O

[ultama121]

Wow... It seems like you can now play every Halo game through the campaign with more than two people... The new addition to the collection is Halo 1 (Halo 2 was already done for those who don't know)... I love my modded xbox : D.

Thread: http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?p=825490#825490

Some pics (7 Player Coop Ftw xD):
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/Garzahd/roar.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/Garzahd/MasterchiefConvention.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/Garzahd/hello.jpg
XBC and XLink syncing is still being worked on, but it seems to work extremely well via split-screen. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm going to guess that regular system link syncs fine...

[Heathen]

Oh twat the hell?

[supersniper]

Didn't think it was possible...

[thehoodedsmack]

Nifty.

[Con]

needs more pc, but awesome though

[InnerGoat]

This just confirms halo 1 is the best http://innergoat.modacity.net/stuff/dr/emot/awesomes/awesomegrin.gif

[Zeph]

it's always been possible, just not feasible for we PC folk since the splitscreen code was deleted from the engine.

Do note though that the synching of AI will still be a problem and you'd need the spawn points added for everyone to start at once and play "reasonably".

[Con]

it's always been possible, just not feasible for we PC folk since the splitscreen code was deleted from the engine.
what about over the net?

[ultama121]

Do note though that the synching of AI will still be a problem
AI usually syncs through system link (Over an LAN and XBC Xlink etc) in H1X. I can see why it wouldn't in this case though...

[Rook]

Hah, that's badass

[rossmum]

Holy shit, awesome.

[Zeph]

what about over the net?

depends on how you define the net.

[Amit]

depends on how you define the net.

I think he means over the Internet. Maybe you could use Hamachi to fool the game into thinking you're playing over LAN, but would that even change anything? Also, the syncing issues would still be there, would they not?

[p0lar_bear]

There was never any AI in Halo's MP maps, so more than likely there is no code to sync up AI states. What would happen, just like in the PC version, AI will appear to sync up until AI decisions become based on something randomized.

[Amit]

Maybe someone could just set the covenant to all just fire in all directions non-stop :lol:

[ultama121]

I've been following Halo 1/2 Xbox modding for a very long time now and I'm sure that AI syncs online in both games, despite not being prepared to handle AI.

This definitely wouldn't be able to exist if it didn't: (Halo 2 Online Coop)
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[Pooky]

Fuck, I need to dust off my Xbox and get it modded D:

[ultama121]

Do it do it do it do it do it do it do it! (I need someone else who has a modded box and can play on xlink/xbc :'()

[Pooky]

Well I can play on Xlink now, just not with mods :p

Could I do all this with softmodding? I don't really want to give my Xbox to anyone to put a mod chip in :\

[Hotrod]

Shit, this is awesome. I've always wondered what the Library would be like with 16 players...

[n00b1n8R]

Shit, this is awesome. I've always wondered what the Library would be like with 16 players...
Yeah, it could even be fun! :aaaaa:

[dg]

Could I do all this with softmodding? I don't really want to give my Xbox to anyone to put a mod chip in :\

Yes. Learn about the Splinter Cell exploit.

[StankBacon]

Well I can play on Xlink now, just not with mods :p

Could I do all this with softmodding? I don't really want to give my Xbox to anyone to put a mod chip in :\

yup.


-edit-


Yes. Learn about the Splinter Cell exploit.

don't even bother with that, there are far easier (and safer) methods of modding your xbox nowadays.

[Kornman00]

Dude, AI in Halo 1 DOES NOT sync in PC OR Xbox. There is NO code to sync the AI.

Get. It. Thru. Your. Heads.

This really isn't co-op, it's just SP->MP conversions tbqh.

[Zeph]

I think he means over the Internet. Maybe you could use Hamachi to fool the game into thinking you're playing over LAN, but would that even change anything? Also, the syncing issues would still be there, would they not?

The internet, no, as halo 1 has no netcode for the xbox. Over the net as in tricking it into thinking it's playing system link yes. However, the AI actions are created based off processes on the xbox's cpu. Any time an AI makes a decision it is liable to reach a different conclusion on each cpu. As for the ability for a person to have a co-op in a single player level, yes it's very possible as the only difference in a Halo 1 MP and SP map is a flag that says what fashion of game it is. The engine runs the same way, but in SP loads a different set of commands on what to do (such as the pause menu and what happens when a map is won).

[Kornman00]

well, not exactly true there Zeph. There are actually specific sub-game engines which are used when running MP games

[Zeph]

Not exactly true, but I'm trying to generalize it as much as possible. We're dealing with people who think AI sync over MP, remember?

[Kornman00]

http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/customavatars/avatar57_16.gif (http://www.modacity.net/forums/member.php?u=57)

[Zeph]

http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/customavatars/avatar57_16.gif (http://www.modacity.net/forums/member.php?u=57)

/huggle

[sdavis117]

Over the net as in tricking it into thinking it's playing system link yes. However, the AI actions are created based off processes on the xbox's cpu. Any time an AI makes a decision it is liable to reach a different conclusion on each cpu.

I know this might sound retarded and/or impossible, but couldn't you somehow just give the AI to the host's CPU and have all the other player's PCs just listen to what the host says?

[Agnaiel]

that's what the netcode would do if AI syncing had been supported...

Right?

[ultama121]

Dude, AI in Halo 1 DOES NOT sync in PC OR Xbox. There is NO code to sync the AI.

Get. It. Thru. Your. Heads.

This really isn't co-op, it's just SP->MP conversions tbqh.

Oh, thanks for the clarification.

[Zeph]

I know this might sound retarded and/or impossible, but couldn't you somehow just give the AI to the host's CPU and have all the other player's PCs just listen to what the host says?

That is what you call netcode.

[`CaSs!~]

Anyone want to point me in the right direction to a tutorial of the best, current method to mod my original xbox ?

I'd much rather not buy anything (Spliter Cell, memory card, etc.).

[StankBacon]

its been a long time, but im pretty sure i used this..

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=496263


if you dont like that method, just look in that forum section, there are a bunch of ways to do it.

[`CaSs!~]

its been a long time, but im pretty sure i used this..

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=496263


if you dont like that method, just look in that forum section, there are a bunch of ways to do it.

Thanks for the link, that definitely looks doable. How would I transfer things/mods onto the xbox once I have it modded? Sorry to ask questions, I just thought it would be easier for someone who has done it to tell me, rather than me take time googling something I have never even attempted.

[StankBacon]

once its modded, you can simply ftp into the xbox, and transfer files that way.

all you need is a crossover cable (not sure if it works with a regular ethernet wire)

[p0lar_bear]

all you need is a crossover cable (not sure if it works with a regular ethernet wire)

Yeah, it has to be crossover, since the NIC in the original XBox doesn't have the ability to detect the type of network connection like the 360 does.

[`CaSs!~]

Thanks for the responses.