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rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 09:24 PM
Mine?
http://members.shaw.ca/b.bogdan/Arrow/Avro_Arrow.jpg
1. The Avro Canada Arrow. Decades ahead of its time, it could fly at over Mach 2 when most regular-service American aircraft were still struggling to reach 1.5 (this of course changed with the advent of the F-15, but that's another story). It was so advanced that it would've really put Canada's air force on the map even in small numbers, but alas it was fucking CANCELLED. Lose.

http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/colinspictures/images/aircraft/lightning/s001_098.jpg
2. The English Electric Lightning. Similar story to the Arrow, though the Lightning did enjoy a brief service time with the RAF. Why was it cancelled? Because some moron in the government thought manned fighters were obsolete. In the fucking 70s. Nice prediction, asshole. http://thereaperman.com/xbh/Smileys/default/emot-argh.gif

Might post more later. In the meantime, post anything you wish wasn't cancelled (civil or military projects), not TV shows.

Hotrod
March 13th, 2007, 09:26 PM
I agree with you on the Avro Canada Arrow, it was (and still is) the coolest plane in my opinion. Do video games count? Because i was disappointed to hear that StarCraft : Ghost was canceled.

Masterz1337
March 13th, 2007, 10:03 PM
Day break TV show.

Stealth
March 13th, 2007, 10:38 PM
Mine, steam cell research, and I bet you know why, well half of why I wish it wasn't cancelled.

DaneO'Roo
March 13th, 2007, 10:43 PM
Futurama :(

stalker 4589
March 13th, 2007, 10:44 PM
Phantom.

M.U.G.E.N (not so much cancelled as died :( )

Con
March 13th, 2007, 10:45 PM
edit: (http://springfieldfiles.com/sounds/homer/platypusman.mp3) avro arrow mmmkay

rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 10:46 PM
(civil or military projects).
Guys... TV shows aren't civil or military projects. They're entertainment. Difference.

Hotrod
March 13th, 2007, 10:48 PM
i don't see the (civil or military projects) anywhere. Could you show me where it is?

rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Try reading the first post. :rolleyes:

Con
March 13th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Maybe you should've made it a more distinguished point, rather than putting it in the English Electric Lighting paragraph; something I wouldn't read since it sounded a bit boring.

rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 10:51 PM
Line-break got screwed in C&P, thanks for spotting that.

SnaFuBAR
March 13th, 2007, 10:51 PM
there's a whole lot of jackasses on this forum.

Hotrod
March 13th, 2007, 10:51 PM
Opps, I didn't see it that (don't know why, I read the first post twice). Well I guess that my only choice now is the Avro Canada Arrow, what an amazing plane it was...

Con
March 13th, 2007, 10:54 PM
there's a whole lot of jackasses on this forum.
no u

Corgy
March 13th, 2007, 10:56 PM
Project MKULTRA

Con
March 13th, 2007, 10:58 PM
Project MKULTRA

Holy crap, I thought all that mind-control stuff was BS, and that your gov't would never try something like that. :lol:

stalker 4589
March 13th, 2007, 11:00 PM
wow i thought it was a mortal kombat game with the name MK ULTRA but i just googled it. ahh conspiracys


On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy) said:
The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD) to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson), resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observe :S

Stealth
March 13th, 2007, 11:03 PM
ya, mind control is full of BS, I'd invest into something better for the people then that, like maybe cybernetics something that can help some people regain their legs, and walk, or even something like the MC for the military.

stalker 4589
March 13th, 2007, 11:07 PM
if they made a MC he could be enhanced with cybernetics :D :D.

btw sealth the "hey you with the hair" quote happend to me about 4 times a month in my school

rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 11:14 PM
wow i thought it was a mortal kombat game with the name MK ULTRA but i just googled it. ahh conspiracys


On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy) said:
The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD) to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson), resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observe :S
The British Army tested the effects of LSD on soldiers in the late 60s/early 70s (I think) and recorded a video of it. I've seen it, it was pretty funny. They were meant to assault a bunker, and ended up sitting in trees outside it feeding the birds. :lol:

Another cancelled project:

Large-scale aircraft carriers for the Royal Navy. Apparently the same idiot who cancelled the Lightning also figured there'd be no need for aircraft carriers in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Oh how wrong he was.

Stealth
March 13th, 2007, 11:20 PM
if they made a MC he could be enhanced with cybernetics :D :D.
:p now see how much better then mind control that is?

btw sealth the "hey you with the hair" quote happend to me about 4 times a month in my school
:p I haven't used that joke for over 2 years, and it was mostly over the summer because I had really short hair and people thought I was bald.:lol:

Large-scale aircraft carriers for the Royal Navy. Apparently the same idiot who cancelled the Lightning also figured there'd be no need for aircraft carriers in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Oh how wrong he was.
How wrong he was, lol, I remember reading one one that some one was planing on making a carrier out of ice.

stalker 4589
March 13th, 2007, 11:24 PM
carrier out of ice. :S so confused.

Hotrod
March 13th, 2007, 11:24 PM
A carrier out of ice... what a weird idea. If that guy was thinking a bit, he would realize that it would melt due to the heat, and it wouldn't be able to move.

rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 11:25 PM
How wrong he was, lol, I remember reading one one that some one was planing on making a carrier out of ice.
Yeah. Pykrete (a mix of ice and sawdust) is actually stronger than concrete and it floats easily since ice is less dense than water. The Brits and possibly Americans (can't remember exactly) were researching it for use on carriers and battleships, but I don't think it ever eventuated into a Pykrete-armoured ship.

stalker 4589
March 13th, 2007, 11:29 PM
the idea sounds rediuclos. i mean yeah lets build a carrier out of frozen water and wood. :S but if it works then wow smart people wioth possible to much time on there hands.

wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete
wierd site http://www.combinedops.com/Pykrete.htm

im gunna try this :D

Con
March 13th, 2007, 11:29 PM
wouldn't the ship just...melt?

rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 11:30 PM
Apparently it didn't. I don't know how; but I suspect that they may have added something to the ice to prevent that.

Hotrod
March 13th, 2007, 11:32 PM
What do you know of that stops ice from melting (besides the cold)?

stalker 4589
March 13th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Sawdust.......


basically the compostion of 14% sawdust and 86% ice creates a slower melting point in the ice and with the tempreture of the see it would be completly possible to build a boat that would survivve a jounry out of prytek

Hotrod
March 13th, 2007, 11:35 PM
Still, with all the heat from all the jet's engines and the ships engines would make it melt quite fast anyways, right?

stalker 4589
March 13th, 2007, 11:37 PM
hmm yes but if there was some insane cooling methords for the engine then it could still be possible

Hotrod
March 13th, 2007, 11:38 PM
Well, it would have been less expensive to make a normal carrier instead of a ice carrier with insane cooling methods.

stalker 4589
March 13th, 2007, 11:44 PM
not really i mean. to make it its water + paper+ fridgefrezzer = prytek

rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 11:45 PM
Still, with all the heat from all the jet's engines and the ships engines would make it melt quite fast anyways, right?
Carrier-borne jets weren't in service in the mid 1940s. As for the other factors, I'm sure they'd prevent it somehow. It's likely only the hull and possibly the deck would be Pykrete, with metal elsewhere.

Aside from that, you've got to remember that the northern Atlantic, the Baltic and the Arctic Circle are VERY cold.

Stealth
March 13th, 2007, 11:51 PM
ya, I was kind of confused when I read up on it, but then again, why not, I think it'd be a funny thing to see happen.

rossmum
March 13th, 2007, 11:53 PM
Not for the Germans, had they ever met them in combat.

Stealth
March 13th, 2007, 11:54 PM
lol, poor Germans.

n00b1n8R
March 14th, 2007, 12:46 AM
did the canadian military not take up that MC suit? if not then FUCK THEM >:-/

rossmum
March 14th, 2007, 12:49 AM
No, if they did it'd be stupid. While it might have appeared perfect, they'd need to run all sorts of tests to ensure its suitability before they could even consider putting it into service.

n00b1n8R
March 14th, 2007, 01:21 AM
and have they even considerd it?

don't milaterys use vehicles from contractors all the time anyways?

Rob Oplawar
March 14th, 2007, 01:42 AM
Apollo. The space shuttle (most beautiful machine ever conceived by man).

Ah well, the purpose of each lives on in Orion (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/orion/index.html). Back to the moon by 2016! lol, wasn't Bush saying off to mars by 2025 a few years ago? Asshole promised expansion of the space program and instead cut funding from NASA in order to stage 9/11.

edit: lol, somehow i missed pages 2-5, i didn't notice this discussion about pykrete carriers. It's an interesting idea, but even if it didn't melt, I'd figure it would be pretty high maintennace, especially for a "ship" big enough to carry aircraft.
(http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/orion/index.html)

rossmum
March 14th, 2007, 01:50 AM
and have they even considerd it?

don't milaterys use vehicles from contractors all the time anyways?
Yeah... after years of extensive testing and modification.


Apollo. The space shuttle (most beautiful machine ever conceived by man).

Ah well, the purpose of each lives on in Orion (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/orion/index.html). Back to the moon by 2016! lol, wasn't Bush saying off to mars by 2025 a few years ago? Asshole promised expansion of the space program and instead cut funding from NASA in order to stage 9/11.

edit: lol, somehow i missed pages 2-5, i didn't notice this discussion about pykrete carriers. It's an interesting idea, but even if it didn't melt, I'd figure it would be pretty high maintennace, especially for a "ship" big enough to carry aircraft.

Funny you should mention Orion, actually. It was also brought up in the original thread on my own forums.

CN3089
March 14th, 2007, 01:56 AM
did the canadian military not take up that MC suit? if not then FUCK THEM >:-/


Of course not. Why would they? It's stupid.




Also, screw the Avro Arrow. If we had built them what would we have used them for? Nothing. They would have been a waste of money. http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-colbert.gif

rossmum
March 14th, 2007, 01:57 AM
Think of the export potential though. Considering how advanced it was, it could've fetched quite a price, and doubtless there would be plenty of possible customers.

Corgy
March 14th, 2007, 02:56 AM
Holy crap, I thought all that mind-control stuff was BS, and that your gov't would never try something like that. :lol:
Whose government?

rossmum
March 14th, 2007, 04:12 AM
Don't try and hide it Corgy, we know what you kiwis have been up to over there with your sheep and your mind control... http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-argh.gif

Corgy
March 14th, 2007, 04:46 AM
We don't even believe in Nuclear fucking Power.

Limited
March 14th, 2007, 08:20 AM
Top gear
:(

stalker 4589
March 14th, 2007, 11:30 AM
as in the TV show it never got cancelled. just the end of this season it will be back in the summer

Pooky
March 14th, 2007, 12:13 PM
the idea sounds rediuclos. i mean yeah lets build a carrier out of frozen water and wood. :S

Yeah and let's also generate electricity by having a crapload of tiny fast moving particles collide in a small room. What a load of bullshit right? Don't reject new ideas too easily. As for cancelled projects, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Crackers

Limited
March 14th, 2007, 01:54 PM
as in the TV show it never got cancelled. just the end of this season it will be back in the summer
BBC has said it got axed..

stalker 4589
March 14th, 2007, 02:08 PM
no the women said staight after the prgram top gear returns in summer.

and theres also a top gear of the pops on tv soon for comic relife

Zeph
March 14th, 2007, 02:21 PM
The carrier out of ice was indeed water mixed with sawdust. It was next to impossible to break. The mock carrier that was made to test the idea in large scale survived torpedoes with little damage, where metal ships would have died.

For those asking it it would melt: It took nearly two years to melt enough so it would sink.

TeeKup
March 14th, 2007, 03:41 PM
The British Army tested the effects of LSD on soldiers in the late 60s/early 70s (I think) and recorded a video of it. I've seen it, it was pretty funny. They were meant to assault a bunker, and ended up sitting in trees outside it feeding the birds. :lol:

Another cancelled project:

Large-scale aircraft carriers for the Royal Navy. Apparently the same idiot who cancelled the Lightning also figured there'd be no need for aircraft carriers in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Oh how wrong he was.

Now that you mention it, I wonder what it would be like if the UK had Nimitz Class Super Carriers like the U.S.:raise:

Limited
March 14th, 2007, 04:15 PM
Now that you mention it, I wonder what it would be like if the UK had Nimitz Class Super Carriers like the U.S.:raise:
:D We have 3 and probably 3 is enough really.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/HMS_Invincible_%28R05%29.jpg/180px-HMS_Invincible_%28R05%29.jpg

heh

Is Nimitz like crazy big, bigger than invincible?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Principe-de-Asturias_Wasp_Forrestal_Invincible_1991_DN-ST-92-01129s.jpg/800px-Principe-de-Asturias_Wasp_Forrestal_Invincible_1991_DN-ST-92-01129s.jpg

Guess which 2 are american :D:D

TeeKup
March 14th, 2007, 04:19 PM
Its called a super carrier for a reason. Its top deck can hold 30 aircraft. American carriers dont have a curved bow. :hyper:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz_class_aircraft_carrier

Normally when a world crisis breaks out, the first question asked is:

"Where are the carriers?":lol:

On future weapons a few nights ago, it was voted as the #1 weapon that has influenced and changed the world.

CN3089
March 14th, 2007, 04:41 PM
:D We have 3 and probably 3 is enough really.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/HMS_Invincible_%28R05%29.jpg/180px-HMS_Invincible_%28R05%29.jpg

heh

Is Nimitz like crazy big, bigger than invincible?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Principe-de-Asturias_Wasp_Forrestal_Invincible_1991_DN-ST-92-01129s.jpg/800px-Principe-de-Asturias_Wasp_Forrestal_Invincible_1991_DN-ST-92-01129s.jpg

Guess which 2 are american :D:D

Except the 2 American ones are an amphibious assault ship and a decommissioned Forrestal-class. The Nimitz-class ships are much bigger. The British one behind them all is a light carrier, STOVL only, as far as I know (the front one is a Spanish ship).

rossmum
March 15th, 2007, 03:17 AM
The Forrestal was one of the first US super-carriers, and the other is indeed an assault ship (the 'carrier' in San Andreas is modeled after one of these, they're much smaller). The farthest ship from the camera is the HMS Invincible, one of very few remaining British carriers... most or all of which are too small for anything like the F-14, F/A-18, S-3, F-4, etc. to effectively operate from. They're used for Harriers, mostly.

Nimitz eats the lot of them for breakfast in terms of size and capacity.

nooBBooze
March 15th, 2007, 08:26 AM
Halogen.

rossmum
March 15th, 2007, 09:04 AM
For the last time:

This thread is not about cancelled movies/TV shows/mods/games/books/anything of that sort.

Limited
March 15th, 2007, 10:53 AM
For the last time:

This thread is not about cancelled movies/TV shows/mods/games/books/anything of that sort.
Ok Ok relax, you didnt actually specify that in the first post, until your edit :D

I'm upset they were going to cancel the plymouth nuclear ship yard :(

nooBBooze
March 15th, 2007, 01:42 PM
um.. the electric car mb?
*ducks*