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Terror(NO)More
December 2nd, 2008, 05:45 PM
Well I have talked to one of the Administrators, and they agreed to unban this account for me. I'm here to post my work receive crit and correct it. So please don't flame me. Help me and I will gladly help you.

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Here is a remake of Famas F1. I had modeled it a while back but I decided it was crap so I remodeled it. It is one of my more recent models. I will eventually get to adding a few extra things like. (Silencer, Iron Sight, Grenade Launcher, ect...)

1060 Polys

Here is your Wireframe:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Weapon%20Models/FamasandWireframe-1060Polys.jpg


Here is your Clay:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Weapon%20Models/FamasandClay-1060Polys.jpg


I wont have more features added to this until I'm done with a few other things. I'm wanting to make a fun map based on Christmas to release the day before. Along with me working on a "Total Conversion Mod" for halo. Thus I had to restart due to loss of files about 9 months back.

2 weeks I will be back out of school for Christmas break and that will last for 3 weeks so I will have a bit of time on my hands.

(In-Game Screens and Renders soon.)

Heathen
December 2nd, 2008, 06:03 PM
I like it

Terror(NO)More
December 2nd, 2008, 06:08 PM
Thanks much appreciated, can you suggest any flaws you see in it?

Disaster
December 2nd, 2008, 06:29 PM
Your edge flow is really bad. Theres alot of n-gons and tris. For an example of good edge flow look at this

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/attachment.php?attachmentid=67410
Note: I did not model this

See how the edges flow seamlessly and don't just suddenly stop? That creates bad smoothing and can look really bad when triangulated for the game engine.

Heathen
December 2nd, 2008, 06:43 PM
It very sharp and angular. Very boxy.

SnaFuBAR
December 2nd, 2008, 07:35 PM
How about you start with a model that's not from over a year ago?

Heathen
December 2nd, 2008, 08:01 PM
He said he redid it snaf. Is this one from a year ago too?

SnaFuBAR
December 2nd, 2008, 08:07 PM
looks exactly like it. if he remade it and it looks exactly the same, welp.

paladin
December 2nd, 2008, 08:43 PM
Meh, yeah. That's about all I can say.

legionaire45
December 2nd, 2008, 11:25 PM
http://xs234.xs.to/xs234/08493/famasandwireframe-1060polys_crit253.jpg
Post some FP shots.

Advancebo
December 3rd, 2008, 06:55 AM
u did all that with a tablet?

Terror(NO)More
December 3rd, 2008, 07:04 AM
Alright thanks guys when I get back home I will start fixing it.

Terror(NO)More
December 6th, 2008, 08:35 PM
Here few days of work off and on. Max time on it is a day. I did like 1 hour at a time here and there. Not constant worker like many.

868 Poly and only that much because I wanted a more curved look then jaged on the body. Which it still is somewhat.

In-game they are currently setup as frag grenades just for testing.
They will be familiar to the "Halo 3 Bomb" that's in the Assault game type.
It will be dropped and on a set timer, if possible I'm going to get it to walk for a timed amount of time before it blows up. It will blink from red to black the last 4 seconds before it blows up and also increase and decrease in size if also possible. I have to look into these things.

This is only the start of the "Super Mario CE."

I know I'm going to die for posting this texture, but untill I get better within photoshop it stands as this. Things that I didn't do is use clouds or filters its all hand painted with mouse. [OMGZ] I don't have the fuse done yet because I cant get it to look how I want so I keep redoing.

Texture:

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1641/bombombfulltexturepk1.jpg

Clay Render:

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9463/bombombuntexturedhs5.jpg

Clay Render With Texture:

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/2320/bombombtexturedov3.jpg

In-game Screenshot:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2917/bombomgingamepn7.jpg

Heathen
December 6th, 2008, 08:38 PM
lolol, epic.

Advancebo
December 6th, 2008, 08:42 PM
Looks like a drinking jug because of the wick looks like a straw.

Also why you gotta compete with NGMT? Only reason why he started this was beacuse NGMT was doing a mario mod to :/

t3h m00kz
December 6th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Well, it definitely looks like a bobomb. Wick needs a little work though, but it's lookin good

Terror(NO)More
December 6th, 2008, 08:48 PM
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2376

Advancebo I was way in it before you I'm not trying to compete I'm continuing what I had wanted to have done year or 2 back. I would have a lot more done but due to hard drive failure I lost my files. It may of been ripped models from n64, but I've worked my self way from that since then.

Advancebo
December 6th, 2008, 08:48 PM
Wick needs to be more grey

Terror(NO)More
December 6th, 2008, 08:50 PM
I don't have the fuse done yet because I cant get it to look how I want so I keep redoing.


Wick is blank atm because as I said up at my first post on this.

Roostervier
December 6th, 2008, 09:14 PM
With the amount of detail you've got on that thing, you might as well just make it solid colour and add detail maps.

SnaFuBAR
December 6th, 2008, 09:15 PM
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2376

Advancebo I was way in it before you I'm not trying to compete I'm continuing what I had wanted to have done year or 2 back. I would have a lot more done but due to hard drive failure I lost my files. It may of been ripped models from n64, but I've worked my self way from that since then.
I remember that, back from in your ripping everything days. Don't clay render with textures. delete all lights from the scene an turn on self illumination so we can see your work. Also, why would you render a black bomb-omb on a black background?

Terror(NO)More
December 6th, 2008, 09:18 PM
Snaf not to sound newbish, but just tick it on don't change the color or add a map?

SnaFuBAR
December 6th, 2008, 09:23 PM
What are you trying to ask me?

Terror(NO)More
December 6th, 2008, 09:27 PM
In material editor, which of the following do i do?

1. Tick the box and set a illumination color up?
2. Put a map on there?
3. Or keep box ticked and turn that up some?

Roostervier
December 6th, 2008, 09:39 PM
You check the box, turn self illumination up to 100%, and put a bitmap in the diffuse slot.

SnaFuBAR
December 6th, 2008, 09:56 PM
i pm'd him specifics.

Terror(NO)More
December 6th, 2008, 10:23 PM
Got it figured out thanks to Snaf.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6590/bombombtexturedtn3.jpg

Also 2d start of a Remington 1100 from year ago. (Not Texture):

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Textures%20I%20Made/Remington1100Stock1.jpg

I went a little crazy with the cross hatch.

SnaFuBAR
December 6th, 2008, 10:29 PM
Now that i can see it, stop using render clouds and sponge to start your metal materials unless you're going to do it right. It looks like it's been rolled around in ash or talc and wiped with a dusty rag. Your textures really don't need to be that high of a resolution for a bomb-omb either. Straight black with a glossy shader would've done much better.

Heathen
December 6th, 2008, 10:36 PM
Looks like a drinking jug because of the wick looks like a straw.

Also why you gotta compete with NGMT? Only reason why he started this was beacuse NGMT was doing a mario mod to :/

What the hell is ngmt?

Terror(NO)More
December 6th, 2008, 10:42 PM
I have to work on things snaf, I know your just giving constructive crit but I havnt done much in photoshop. Im slowly progressing.

Nintendo Games Mapping Team or some crap..

Heathen
December 6th, 2008, 10:46 PM
I agree with snaf. Shiny is the way to go.

Advancebo
December 6th, 2008, 10:51 PM
I have to work on things snaf, I know your just giving constructive crit but I havnt done much in photoshop. Im slowly progressing.

Nintendo Games Mapping Team or some crap..

nub

Chainsy
December 6th, 2008, 10:55 PM
Advance, you need to shut up, you actually rip your models, and ngmt has not even made one map, and if it has, no one has even heard of it.

Roostervier
December 6th, 2008, 10:59 PM
Got it figured out thanks to Snaf.



Also 2d start of a Remington 1100 from year ago. (Not Texture):



I went a little crazy with the cross hatch.
If by crosshatch you mean the all-to-visible X scratches, then yes, you did. Tbh I'd delete that layer and retry the whole scratches thing.

LlamaMaster
December 6th, 2008, 11:04 PM
nub
You have no room to talk. Nub.

Terror(NO)More
December 6th, 2008, 11:07 PM
Hey, I agree that shiny is a good thing, along with not having too much.
I also want to have a newer look to the Bomb-omb that why I will not do it completely black. Allow me some time to learn photoshop decently and you will have alot more detail to the Bomb-omb. In mean time decided to cube map the bad boy!


http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9957/bombomgingamegt9.jpg

EDIT: Not as shiny also much better.

Advancebo
December 6th, 2008, 11:51 PM
Advance, you need to shut up, you actually rip your models, and ngmt has not even made one map, and if it has, no one has even heard of it.

Nah, I stopped ripping.

Also, ahem

http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13208

Pooky
December 7th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Nah, I stopped ripping.

Also, ahem

http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13208

No one cares, the thread is about Terror not you.

Neat bob-omb btw.

Terror(NO)More
December 7th, 2008, 12:07 AM
Thanks Pookey and everyone else with the great support so far with me being back on the forums.

I do greatly appreciate it guys it makes it easier on me and in the end everyone else.


Also, Advancebo I would appreciate it if you wouldn't crap my thread up. You have your Paper Mario thread for that, and don't post link we all know where it is... Im sure were not all handicapped and cant find our way around here.

Heathen
December 7th, 2008, 12:19 AM
holy shit kid.


It's spelled "Pooky"

I like these bombombs, but is it part of something bigger?

rossmum
December 7th, 2008, 12:42 AM
nub
I'm going to get infracted for this or something, but really, it's about time you got a wakeup call.

You're a fucking terrible poster, your work is not even close to Terror's for quality, and you never seem to accept any crit. I distinctly remember telling you your Thompson was wrong, and you never fixed it. You type like a five-year-old, and you seldom have anything worthwhile to say. On a scale of 'nub', I would rate you well below Terror.

Thanks, now either buck up or fuck off.

Heathen
December 7th, 2008, 01:15 AM
I request that this post be protected and be given infraction invulnerability.

It was a just flame.

Also, you still never answered my question....does ANY ONE know if this is going to be part of osmething bigger? Or just for the shits and giggles factor?

Terror(NO)More
December 7th, 2008, 01:53 AM
Yes there is going to be a lot more for sure. I know I cant do it as a 1 man team, but I do know I myself am going to try to do as many things as I can possible before I have to go to others for help. No specified time for beta yet.

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Bipeds, Scenery, Other:
•Mario
•Peach
•Luigi
•Yoshi
•Bowser
•Boo
•Koopa Troopa
•Goomba
•King Boo
•Piranha
•Chain Chomp
•Toad

Weapons:
•Red Shell
•Blue Shell
•Green Shell
•Spiked Shell
•Yoshi Eggs
•Turnip
•Fire Flower
•Bob-omb

Equipment, Power Ups, Ect:
•Cape
•Mushroom
•Mini Mushroom
•Mega Mushroom
•1-UP Mushroom
•Coin
•Star Power
•Banana

Vehices: As of right now I'm not that far.

Levels:
•All Super Mario 64 Levels
•Custom Made Maps Themed Mario


EDIT: I Tried what you said Snaf just black, It looks like crap. I tried multiple levels of the cube map settings.

Heathen
December 7th, 2008, 11:31 AM
I like this idea. Mario fps.

Terror(NO)More
December 7th, 2008, 07:59 PM
3rd Person shooter :P

Heathen
December 7th, 2008, 08:08 PM
damn
lol

kid908
December 7th, 2008, 10:43 PM
hmmm...are the bombs suppose to have eyelike features on the back?

Terror(NO)More
December 7th, 2008, 10:57 PM
I'm not sure though Heathen, so you may get lucky. Kid the Bob-omb has eyes, but I am probaby going to have animated textures so that the eyes blink. I'm also going to have them blend in more on the edges with the black. Working on the Koopa Troopa shell atm. Having difficulties on making it not look like a condom out of its wrapper. :P

Heathen
December 7th, 2008, 11:24 PM
YAY

and kid. Its not. that ones facing the toher way.

Terror(NO)More
December 7th, 2008, 11:29 PM
Just for a lawl...

Koopa Troopa Terror Style:

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8539/koopatroopaterrorstylebo7.png

Bad Waffle
December 8th, 2008, 02:14 AM
Well thats embarassing...

Terror(NO)More
December 8th, 2008, 08:42 AM
Just a question and I'm wondering if you guys saw this. Does Mario seem to be taller and have longer legs in the newer games compared to old?

If anyone has or can get some good side shots of Mario, It would greatly be appreciated.


EDIT: By the way later tonight I should have you 2 legs and 2 feet. :O

Terror(NO)More
December 8th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Can anyone say "La ¿Pantalones?"

Regular:

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4697/marioregularrendergx7.jpg

Clay:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4038/marioclayrenderyw1.jpg

Terror(NO)More
December 8th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Can anyone help me find a side view of Mario standing preferably legs not bent


Fixed it up a little, trying to find side shot so i can model the body.


http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5218/marioregularrenderst4.jpg

Heathen
December 8th, 2008, 05:07 PM
when he has feet maybe it'l look better.

Bad Waffle
December 8th, 2008, 07:03 PM
Here's a little stepguide to help you with bipeds because you're doing it way hard and way wrong:

1. draw your own rough proportions w/ paper n pencil, orthographic view of the front and side (back is only necessary if there's something odd back there that you cant figure out how to model without a guide)

2. scan in and use THOSE as your references

3. complete a rough 1000tri model of EVERYTHING. I use a cylinder for the torso, and two cylinders for the arm and leg. I model the hand and foot from cubes. DON'T be afraid to have a few oddly bent quads as you drag vertices around. But MAKE SURE to use as litting triangles as possible. Quads are best on bendy meshes. Imagine it like so.

Can you bend something in half into two even sections when it's shaped like |\ (triangle) or when the paper is like | |?

I also model the head from a cube.

4. After the base is done, THEN go and add detail, like the fold on the cuff of the pants, or the buttons, or crap like that.

Terror(NO)More
December 10th, 2008, 01:32 PM
What sucks is I don't have a scanner... i will try to take a picture of the lined reference drawings. ill have to wait until I get home to start drawing. i have the body modeled but its probably best if i just go ahead and do what you said.


EDIT: WOL would you mind to draw me front and side view of Mario? Or someone? I would really appreciate it.

SnaFuBAR
December 10th, 2008, 03:05 PM
dude, you can get your own scanner for like 80 bucks.

Geo
December 10th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Yeah. And most teenagers have 80 bucks just sitting around in their back pocket all the time? No.

SnaFuBAR
December 10th, 2008, 03:15 PM
Parents? Work? Allowance? Friends who have scanners? School equipment?

Give me a fucking break dude.

Geo
December 10th, 2008, 03:19 PM
Well you said to get his own. That would imply buying it. But yeah if he had a job then that would work. But from talking to people in the community, not many of them have jobs sadly :(

Terror(NO)More
December 10th, 2008, 03:23 PM
Due to economy going to the shit, a lot of people here got layed off of work at places and no one is hiring. It sucks or I would have a job. I don't get allowance. Also with Dad paying for a car and insurance monthly. Asking for a scanner wouldn't be best.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1844/marioclayrendercp8.jpg

Geo
December 10th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Looks good man. Can't see anything wrong with it.

Apoc4lypse
December 10th, 2008, 03:55 PM
keep working on it.. try to finish most of it before posting more pictures.

Its a model of mario, mario is probably by far the easiest biped to model (unless you like gumby or stick figures).

Also heres a tip: Digital Cameras (of any kind, they even make throwaway digital cameras now) work nicely as "scanners".

It doesn't have to be an amazing picture, its just for proportioning. The detailing should come from ur reference photos, and he doesn't have to be completely strait in these photos.

JunkfoodMan
December 10th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Yeah. And most teenagers have 80 bucks just sitting around in their back pocket all the time? No.
I got a decent scanner for £20 >_>
Amazon can work wonders.

Terror(NO)More
December 10th, 2008, 05:12 PM
Yea, ill get as Christmas present, also restarted mario he looks a wonders better. Won't show until i get full body done, excluding head lol

jngrow
December 10th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Yea, ill get as Christmas present, also restarted mario he looks a wonders better. Won't show until i get full body done, excluding head lol

Good, I can't stand it when people post something that is pointless when you can't see the full picture. Good luck!

Terror(NO)More
December 10th, 2008, 07:31 PM
Deleted!

Also, The Shells. Is a Mario mod something you really want to see in Halo? I honestly dont want to carry this out if there isn't going o be any attraction to playing it.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Mario%20Stuff/ShellSetClayRender.jpg

EDIT: Sorry they are Moses I knew I forgot something. wasn't purposely

Apoc4lypse
December 10th, 2008, 09:17 PM
... I know you didn't make those, so why are you posting them?

At least say there Moses's...

Terror(NO)More
December 10th, 2008, 09:22 PM
Sorry, I knew I forgot something. Anyways I wont be posting much for a while kinda going to work in confinement. Ill be browsing the forums still though.

Bad Waffle
December 10th, 2008, 11:21 PM
That's not really confinement...

and no, the economy is not so bad that you can't get a job, it's that you can't get a job. If the economy was as bad as people say i wouldn't see as many people shopping when i go to costco or the mall or etc etc. just try harder next time, kk

MetKiller Joe
December 11th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Deleted!

Also, The Shells. Is a Mario mod something you really want to see in Halo? I honestly dont want to carry this out if there isn't going o be any attraction to playing it.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Mario%20Stuff/ShellSetClayRender.jpg

EDIT: Sorry they are Moses I knew I forgot something. wasn't purposely

Specular is rough, but I like where it's going.

Terror(NO)More
December 11th, 2008, 03:13 PM
Thanks, won't be posting much for a bit probably the next week or 2. Exams up so time to study.

ICEE
December 12th, 2008, 11:01 AM
I like the shells, but has the tricount been reduced to actually function in game?

Apoc4lypse
December 13th, 2008, 05:06 AM
Thanks, won't be posting much for a bit probably the next week or 2. Exams up so time to study.

*face palm*

go study...

hell I need to study... stupid math.

legionaire45
December 14th, 2008, 05:23 AM
Terror, did you ever do anything with your FAMAS?

Off topic: remember kids, Integral e^x = f(u)^n

SnaFuBAR
December 20th, 2008, 10:41 PM
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3096/messyfamashc7.jpg

Nice remodel, from may 2007 right?

Why don't you just stop wasting everyone's time? You half-ass everything, you never change. You do it for attention don't you? Just quit dude.

Terror(NO)More
December 21st, 2008, 12:33 AM
Yea a lot of that's changed fyi. Take closer look.

SnaFuBAR
December 21st, 2008, 12:49 AM
No, not a whole lot. You omitted some lines, added a trigger, mag and a box to the ejection port, and a cocking lever. The rest of the mesh is the exact same. It's the same rifle, just took you a year and a half to add 4 things.

Bastinka
December 21st, 2008, 12:56 AM
I still question why your eyes are squinty terror.

Snaf does have a point, agree. :Sieg Heil:

Terror(NO)More
December 21st, 2008, 09:53 AM
They are squinty because I was facing the sun when the picture was taken and I was "Blinded By The Light"

SnaFuBAR
December 24th, 2008, 06:24 PM
So, why are you trying to pass off a year and a half old model as brand new? You really don't come off as someone seriously interested in this as either a hobby or a career choice. Instead, you come off as a wannabe, posing attention seeker. You've always tried to dupe the community, from the day you started, with ripping models from console games, turbosquid downloads, failure to credit content authors, etc, it's all just a huge ploy for attention.

It may seem like I'm just trying to start a problem or something, but my serious opinion is that you should just quit, because it's never anything more than attention seeking, and never actually wanting to be good at what you do.

Bastinka
December 24th, 2008, 09:14 PM
http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/Owned_Album/owned3.sized.jpg

[22:11] SnaFuBAR: he should just uninstall max and photoshop

I'm sure that was put to good use.

Rob Oplawar
December 25th, 2008, 01:51 AM
lllllol