What's this?

[Terror(NO)More]

Ever wanted to know how to have stairs in halo but without an collision plane? Well I have made a set of stairs for a current map I am working on. Don't ask what it is. Anyways with the stairs I do not have a collision plane and you can still walk up them with no problem, just the added feel to the camera tilting or slightly going up or down and with a split second of a stop between each step.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsDnpV_vgz0

[KiLLa]

Um...well this is kinda pointless..but good job?
all you havta do is make the steps small enough for him to climb up..I believe in the original HEK docs, it even tells you the maxium hieght that he can step up..

[Terror(NO)More]

The thing is my steps are over the height limit. That's the point of posting. I figured out how to make them and have them the height I want which for normal stairs is over the the height limit in HEK. Yet he still can walk up them with no problems.

[Roostervier]

What, you made them with a ladder material? :confused:

Tbh I'd rather have the smoothness of a collision plane.

[Terror(NO)More]

No they just have a bland metal material. No climbable features checked.

[teh lag]

What's even the point? There's already a number of perfectly-functioning ways to make stairs. You even get the "camera effect" you talk about in the first post with the ladder system.

[KiLLa]

oh god this is dumb...just fucking say what you did, your not super cool, for doing something, and it's kinda childish how your just like "na na I'll never telll"
There's a number of things you could have done..altered the biped tag it's self to alter the hieght he can climb, coulda made him walk on walls, coulda made invis colision planes to help with the transistion, coulda made the surfact climbable...
So yea, not really seeing what's so amazing..
Anyways, I don't really care, nor is this intresting to me...

[Terror(NO)More]

No I never said I wasn't going to tell I said don't ask what my map was. Extruded parts from the tip of each step is how. Some may find it useful others may now. K thanks bye

[KiLLa]

waste of webspace/bandwidth...
Coulda just said HEY GUYS, IF YOU EXTRUDE YOUR STEPS, YOU CAN CLIMB THEM WOOO!!
Instead of wasting time showing, pretending it's some uber secret, then when I call you out on you thinking your awesome for doing something obvious, you reveal what you did, anywhoo...like I said Good job?

[Amit]

Killa, what the hell? Cool down a bit.

[Heathen]

Congrats. Its an interesting idea. We could always use new methods for making steps.

[FluffyDucky™]

His on drugs. :( But, I agree with his point. Shoulda put it all in the first post.

[Terror(NO)More]

Or I didn't put it all in the first post. That way it got you more interested in knowing what it is all about.

[FRain]

coulda made him walk on walls


Spider cheef?

[Bastinka]

WHY YOU EYES SQUINTY?

Not too exciting.

[Apoc4lypse]

Or I didn't put it all in the first post. That way it got you more interested in knowing what it is all about.

or got u more attention, congrats, u succeeded in pissing off killa, and I still don't understand what u mean unless you mean chamfered the top edges?? Its not extrude, unless u mean you did something else which I'm missing.

[Terror(NO)More]

Well, I would actually show a render of what it is, but I don't want to ruin your all's Christmas present which will be beta testing the level for me.

[FRain]

Well, I don't think anyone wants to beta test your level unless you can show some type of work that isn't elementary level.

[=sw=warlord]

Why not just spline the steps then extrude the edges?
if smooth walking is what your worried about just put a ladder plane there, i dont see anything special about a new technique for making stair mesh.
Theres more versions on how to make steps than there are steps in a 24 storey building.

[SnaFuBAR]

MC's step height is 10 units, the 45 degree (MC's max incline, unaltered) chamfer (not extrude frain) makes the height less than 10 units. The depth of the steps is >10. All this combined gives the "stairstep" look.

No big deal.

[Terror(NO)More]

People will want to beta, trust me I don't know who honestly wouldn't, Ill post renders closer to the date before release for beta.

[Corndogman]

Look at the video. As you can see, instead of each step being perfectly perpendicular, they are extruded outwards a little bit at the top of each step. That's what he means.

[KiLLa]

People will want to beta, trust me I don't know who honestly wouldn't, Ill post renders closer to the date before release for beta.
Wow...ego much?
Seriously...I'm not liking your over-confidence...
Try on some modesty, I think it would suit you better considering I've never seen any of your work...
Anywho..from what I see, it's untextured steps...how that would MAKE me wana beta, is beyond me..
Or is your tactic, make it SEEM awesome so everyone will be curious..until they play and realize the only thing "special" was the steps themselfs...
Stop beating around the bush, seriously...it's annoying

[SnaFuBAR]

Look at the video. As you can see, instead of each step being perfectly perpendicular, they are extruded outwards a little bit at the top of each step. That's what he means.

Though I did miss the slight extrude (which is completely unnecessary), it still works the exact same way I said.

[Anton]

Killa you need to chill out. What did the kid do that hurt anyone? Confidence is a good thing, don't discourage him.

Even though there is nothing special about this, it's him learning and wanting to share the information he gained so that makes it special to him.

Good job my friend, keep trying and good luck! :)

[Gamerkd16]

Killa you need to chill out. What did the kid do that hurt anyone? Confidence is a good thing, don't discourage him.

Even though there is nothing special about this, it's him learning and wanting to share the information he gained so that makes it special to him.

Good job my friend, keep trying and good luck! :)
IAWTP. You don't want to totally chew him up and spit him out. Not really fair.

Although the over confidence is a bit annoying. He could tone it down as well.

[Anton]

I guess he may have been a tad overconfident. :eyesroll:

[DarkHalo003]

Well isn't this one of the things people have wanted in the community? Realistic stairs? Or is it really too much effort that is unneeded and that there are better ways to have stairs?

[Roostervier]

No one I know has wanted stairs like this. Where did you get the idea that many people did? Besides, the collision plane works more smoothly, and is better IMO.

[Ki11a_FTW]

No one I know has wanted stairs like this. Where did you get the idea that many people did? Besides, the collision plane works more smoothly, and is better IMO.

Yeah the extruded stairs with no collision plane make it real bumpy, and it would be annoying in an actual game

[Gamerkd16]

And he did make the clip unbelievably short so you can't get a real feel for it. If I was showing it off I would have done a good 30 seconds of it so you can grasp it more.

[SnaFuBAR]

agreed. if you're trying to show something off, do more than a 3 second clip.

[KiLLa]

Killa you need to chill out. What did the kid do that hurt anyone? Confidence is a good thing, don't discourage him.

Even though there is nothing special about this, it's him learning and wanting to share the information he gained so that makes it special to him.

Good job my friend, keep trying and good luck! :)
It's his gloating, and acting like he accomplished this great feat, that irritates me...and how he has to like be all secretive like it's SO AMAZING he hasta make it all mysterious...
Modesty, and confidence all play thier respective roles, and something like this, I don't see as something to be overly-confident about, and see it as being egotistical..
But that's strictly my opinion of course

[DarkHalo003]

No one I know has wanted stairs like this. Where did you get the idea that many people did? Besides, the collision plane works more smoothly, and is better IMO.
Idk, I just happened to think a lot of people would like realistic stairs more than fake stairs. Oh well, I was wrong. Also, in gameplay, I would want to get up the stairs fast as crazy instead of bumping up the stairs while being shot at by a pistol or sniper. =/

[Limited]

So basically you mean this?
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8136/stepsln8.png
Red box bottom left corner shows what it would look like

Interesting, nice stuff. If I ever made a map,I wouldnt make steps because a, it would be a pain to get to work, I dont wanna have to fiddle around with steps and b take up more polys than just a ramp. Although that said, your info helps me out more :) Cheers

[Terror(NO)More]

Yea Limited you got it right.

I'm taking on something a guy from HaloMods was doing he no longer can he lost all files to the government for hacking. They wiped his drive.

Alright gibber jabbering time is over here is what will be part of the beta testing, Which map who knows unless you can guess one in 3 second video. Not hard to guess that FYI.

Renders and screen shots more towards a day or two before release for beta. I'm taking on something a guy from HaloMods

BTW in the video its only the title and logo. It does though give you what you all have been wanting to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHxXm1BEuSI

[Limited]

I should have really read your post, I watched the whole video, expecting something to suddenly show up, only logo did.

Interesting stuff, but did the vid really need to be that long? We all know and love the classic tune

edit. Wait why do you have barbie sex videos under your favourites??

[SnaFuBAR]

You could've just said that it was a 007 mod instead of linking us to that pointless video. He lost all his files to the gov't for hacking? I seriously doubt that. If he were convicted as a hacker he would not be allowed to use a computer at all.

What does this mean for your mario mod?

E: woah, he does have at least three barbie pornos on fav

[Gamerkd16]

Yea Limited you got it right.

I'm taking on something a guy from HaloMods was doing he no longer can he lost all files to the government for hacking. They wiped his drive.

Alright gibber jabbering time is over here is what will be part of the beta testing, Which map who knows unless you can guess one in 3 second video. Not hard to guess that FYI.

Renders and screen shots more towards a day or two before release for beta. I'm taking on something a guy from HaloMods

BTW in the video its only the title and logo. It does though give you what you all have been wanting to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHxXm1BEuSI

That video shows nothing. It's still the 10 second thing, you just extended it with music. The thing is you are trying to be sneaky with us, acting like the big guys thinking it will get us wondering what is going on, but that's not working in this case. That only works with people would have a reputation for great things. Therefore we expect great things from them and that's where anticipation comes from. If you are going to tease us you are going to need to show a lot more otherwise just be quiet about it and don't release something until something significant is ready to be shown.

[Terror(NO)More]

I was on remote desktop and my friend was connected I walked away and he was screwing around on my computer I guess. I didn't even know I had those there I never do favorites.. Thanks Ill go remove those now...

Edit: If you don't like 10 second videos then don't watch it. Don't complain at me about it, I have every right to post it.

[teh lag]

I was on remote desktop and my friend was connected I walked away and he was screwing around on my computer I guess. I didn't even know I had those there I never do favorites.. Thanks Ill go remove those now...

External invasion detected?


If you don't like 10 second videos then don't watch it. Don't complain at me about it, I have every right to post it.

heh

[Gamerkd16]

Edit: If you don't like 10 second videos then don't watch it. Don't complain at me about it, I have every right to post it.
Ok, I won't. Then let me know if they will be 10 second videos before I watch them.
And don't give them hype they don't deserve.

[Terror(NO)More]

BTW, if anyone can get a hold of this logo but without the text it would be great. at least a 640 x 480 res. Id rather have that then the Halo 3 logo

http://nikon.bungie.org/logos/halo.ce.jpg

[Gamerkd16]

BTW, if anyone can get a hold of this logo but without the text it would be great. atleast a 640 x 480 res. Id rather have that then the Halo 3 logo
You can recreate a logo with the Halo Font and Unicode.
(IIRC Alt + 0235)

Link is broken.

[=sw=warlord]

I'm taking on something a guy from HaloMods was doing he no longer can he lost all files to the government for hacking. They wiped his drive.


No, i had been on halomods for a few years and never have i heard of someone who had been convicted for hacking.

[Gamerkd16]

Actually...um...dude?

Also available: A layered Photoshop document (http://nikon.bungie.org/logos/Halo_logo-smaller.psd.zip) (1.1 mb, zipped) containing a 900x480 version of the Combat Evolved logo, with the text in a separate layer. Perfect for creating your OWN Halo logos.

[Terror(NO)More]

-Laser-? Well he has some post on there scrummage through older post.

I want it like colored and everything I don't want to have to paint a damn logo.

[SnaFuBAR]

You won't ever be proficient if you don't try to do something yourself. You're always begging for everyone to do things for you. Did you even try? It's a PSD, you don't have to paint anything dude.

[Terror(NO)More]

Thanks I didn't even see that. Rawr now to go redo things. I won't care to show till beta because I will just get bitched at some more about a 10 second clip.

[Gamerkd16]

Thanks I didn't even see that. Rawr now to go redo things. I won't care to show till beta because I will just get bitched at some more about a 10 second clip.
Depends, is this going to be a 10 second clip of something that is made in photoshop/movie editor and has nothing really to do with Halo or of actual content? Try for the latter at least.

[FRain]

Edit: If you don't like 10 second videos then don't watch it. Don't complain at me about it, I have every right to post it.

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Ah, classic "I have every right to post it" speech.

Also, last time I'm going to ever use that, I need to l2embed flash, because I suck at it.

[KiLLa]

haha, how did I know this thread would end up in this direction?
and of course your from halomods...
Just wow...not much has changed around the HCE scene I suppose..
Anywho, do you have anything to actually show besides stairs, and the false promise of this imaginary beta?

[Terror(NO)More]

Also I did not come from Halomods. I started on Geabox Forums until they closed the section down then I found my way to H2vista.net which now stands as Modacity.net

Yea said in a previous post this weekend you will get to see stuff.

[SnaFuBAR]

I was on remote desktop and my friend was connected I walked away and he was screwing around on my computer I guess. I didn't even know I had those there I never do favorites.. Thanks Ill go remove those now...
:btw: (why isn't this an emote)

If your pc was in remote desktop, he was using it, not you. You can't both use your PC at once. Nice try, though.

[DaneO'Roo]

Imma quote Nick03 from gearbox, (yet again) and say



"That's terrorible"

[Bad Waffle]

:btw: (why isn't this an emote)

If your pc was in remote desktop, he was using it, not you. You can't both use your PC at once. Nice try, though.


5 bucks says that he's a republican due to that "i have every right" bs

[SnaFuBAR]

repubs don't believe in rights duder.

[Bad Waffle]

what about the rights to carry guns

you forgot about that one

[SnaFuBAR]

touché

[Longshot]

Seeing as this thread's about stairs and collision planes, perhaps I can get a bit of help.

As you can see, exhibit A.

A collision plane sitting on top of my stairs, linked to the frame, (*) material, tooled bitmaps but I still get open errors. Anybody have any idea why? It's seriously driving me nuts.

I'm willing to bet it's something so simple it'll make me look like an idiot.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/879/wtfxr8.png

[Terror(NO)More]

Try @ instead of *

Also make sure your shader file or bitmap file doesn't contain the symbols. It should just be the normal name.

[Longshot]

Gah, it's still not working, I'm just about ready to give up. :\

I've tried just about everything I can think of, I even created a new .max file to export with (ignore the map name in the code below, couldn't think of anything) Bluestreak, as I usually use Blitzkrieg but it still doesn't work. It just gives me the following error when using Blustreak.


C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition>tool structure levels\isuck
isuck
Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
building intermediate geometry...
EAX: 0x00163820
EBX: 0x001EFD01
ECX: 0x0016191C
EDX: 0x00161938
EDI: 0x0012F2D0
ESI: 0x00000000
EBP: 0x0012F1A8
ESP: 0x0012F198
EIP: 0x7C90E4F4, C3 8D A4 24 ?????
EXCEPTION halt in .\intermediate_geometry.c,#444: triangle->material_index>=0 &&
triangle->material_index<old_material_count

[Terror(NO)More]

I cant scramble upon this error because I never get it, but I know it could amount up to a certain amount of things. It would help If I had contact with you outside of the forums. Seeing I could look into things more thoroughly..

[FRain]

Also make sure your shader file or bitmap file doesn't contain the symbols. It should just be the normal name.

double post, DOUBLE POOOST. L2edit

[ShadowSpartan]

MERC Storm, I believe a piece of your geometry either does not have a material id applied to it, or it has an incorrect one applied.

[KiLLa]

Yea, it seems as somethings not right in materials..
if it were a problem with collision, it would give you the error, and wrl..and not just crap out on you

[.Wolf™]

Seems pointless to me...

[Longshot]

Never mind boys, I created a new .max file to work around it, so it exports fine now. But for some reason the collision plane doesn't work, I think it's a problem with my shader, I'll continue working with it.

Thanks for the help though.

[p0lar_bear]

This method of stairs seems too overly complicated. I'm against realism in this engine anyway simply because the engine can't handle consistent realism. Hell, no engine seems to be able to handle consistent realism.

Bridging all of the gaps with playerclips works just fine imho. It doesn't hem up the player, it's simpler for a modeler, and it still lets projectiles through.