[GALLERY] Chains' Scribbles

[Newbkilla]

Why is everyone insisting on the ODST's looking fat.
Fat people aren't cool.
They don't look fat in the games.

You do realize that there is a body under that armor :)

All the armor does for the concept is too make them look fatter, when in fact, it is just protecting them. Remember, that is metal.. If you made the armor normal size, imagine how anorexic looking the guy would be underneath.

[Chainsy]

More practice.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/forerunnercopy.png

[SnaFuBAR]

looks much better than the last forerunner pai-.... do i see that horrible crosshatch brush again?

[Chainsy]

NO!?!? UH...I DID THAT WITH MY BARE HANDS!!!
edit- also its an eraser, not a brush. :3

fuck.

[SnaFuBAR]

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6636/pillsheresnaf.png

RAAAAAAAGE

[FluffyDucky™]

LMFAO SNAF

Chains I really like that tbh. :)

[Anton]

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6636/pillsheresnaf.png

RAAAAAAAGE

Oh man, look at that rage.

Chains, I like this painting, especially the lighting and overall mood of it.

[Chainsy]

Just a quick design on a mech, might go back and paint in a scene with him firing, but most likely not as the team the concept is for will prolly revise the design, so I will have to go back into work.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/mechcopy.png

[Hunter]

http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif

Finish a painting!!!

[Chainsy]

....
do you even read or do you just look a the pretty pictures?


Just a quick design on a mech, might go back and paint in a scene with him firing, but most likely not as the team the concept is for will prolly revise the design, so I will have to go back into work.I am conceptualizing (holy shit that is a mouthful) a mech, in other words, making a simple design, and if the team likes, I will have to make about 10 sketches of different views and functionality. So I do not have time and it would be pointless to paint a whole scene of something that might not even be used. L2concept.

[Joshflighter]

No, hunter doesn't read.

Uh, I just have something with the back guys lag. It almost looks like another arm. At Least make it close to the other lag, unless your not going for a mech, but an organic.

[Hunter]

Sarrrry. I like pretty pictures :)

[Roostervier]

Hunter don't come in here again if this is all you're going to do

[DEElekgolo]

Chains have you ever tried making some quick thumbnails sketches?

[Chainsy]

Yes, though I never post them for fear of ignorance of people yelling "dont make the pictures so small!!!"

[Chainsy]

Havn't posted any content in a while, so I guess I will post this. Basically in any thread concerning weapon concepts for halo, I have always heard the covenant shotgun idea mentioned at least once. So I decided to just fill in a side view of a possible type of covenant shotgun. Credit to bungie for the base idea.
Also malloy will be modeling this.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/shotguncopy-1.png

[Joshflighter]

P-90. :downs:

[Newbkilla]

Reminds me of the p90 and the carbine. Except of course more of the darker colored metal.

[Corndogman]

It looks okay, but it really doesn't look very functional. Why would 3/4 of the gun be just the handle, and only the front is for shooting. Where do all the innards go? seems like it wouldn't work very well.

[Chainsy]

Tell that to bungie. :downs:

[Chainsy]

Woooo-weeee, this thread fell off the face of the earth while I was banned, lets blow the dust off. :realsmug:
So here's what I have been up to while in exile:
I am designing a halo background:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/layoutcopy-1.png
Some random shit I have no idea about:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/worktemplatelol-1.png
Forerunner concept
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1-2-2.png
Annnnd finally:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/promopostercopy-1.png

[Roostervier]

the shape and proportions on your stuff is really bad and the perspective isnt much better. the spartan hardly even resembles what its supposed to. id look at a bunch of screenshots from in game or something

[Joshflighter]

I dont understand why you make your work so.. well not sloppy, but like kinda messy with the colors. I did my first picture in photo shop with the tablet, and it was not that hard to make it look realistic but also clean.

[Chainsy]

It's a choice of style.

Also I am not painting from references josh, and I prefer to do a messy style, though I can paint just as sharp as you can.

[MetKiller Joe]

It's a choice of style.

Also I am not painting from references josh, and I prefer to do a messy style, though I can paint just as sharp as you can.

If you want to get paid for this stuff, then I suggest practicing cleaner methods. If this is a hobby, then great.

But chains, word to the wise, anybody can do something sloppy, so there isn't much to brag about there.

[Chainsy]

No it is a choice of style, I can paint perfectly fine in a non sloppy way, I just find this way funner. Drop it, I know my abilities, and what I can and can't do.

[Joshflighter]

So you cant do it the right way then?

[Chainsy]

Josh do not antagonize me, you will get raped sideways.

[Roostervier]

heh. funny as it is, cut da shit in this thread please

[Chainsy]

I think people here need to learn to respect other peoples work, especially when they have no idea of the skill that person has, and ESPECIALLY when they have been doing something longer then the other person.
Even then, when a person has just started, we must show respect to their work, and critique in a polite manner. I could care the fuck less if you do not like my style, stop looking at my art then, but NEVER assume that the person does not have the skill to go beyond what they do. Art is a choice and is a freedom to express how I want to see the fucking world, real or not. I find it less and less appealing to post in this forum because the negativity towards people and differencing opinions, and harsh, uncalled for comments. Grow the fuck up people.
Moving onto you josh.
Josh you are extremely cocky. You painted an existing character with a probable reference, and to be honest it is great for a first time tablet painting, but it still is not anything amazing. Do not ever assume that someone can not paint right, because in the end you might just get your ass kicked.
To prove this I just did a 45 minute sketch of a barbarian without references:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-2copy.png
It's not meant to be viewed this large, as it loses some composition, but oh the fuck well. It's only meant to prove a point, that if I wanted to take the time and effort to paint, I could and can create "un-sloppy" pieces. I prefer to explore and learn my own things though, so quit busting my ass over having fun.

edit- smaller copy:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-2copy-1.png

[Joshflighter]

I'm not cocky. Your just being a dick about how you take your crit. You know your wrong and wont want to fix it. That doesn't make me a cocky bastard like you put it. Either act your age, or stop being a fuck who thinks he is all that. Seriously, you cant call it art if it doesn't look good. Just because some random dude in the old day was on drugs and spilled random paint strips everywhere and now its being sold for lots of money, doesn't mean you can do that, and think it looks good.

Your perspectives are off. I suggest you go and learn the shapes on a human and the biology of a human, that create the shapes. Seriously, you really need to do this. You make alot of stuff wrong, like sometimes you make short hands compared to the body or weird shaped arms and stuff.

Second, your art is either blurred so badly (now your starting to stop doing that) and you are just making shades of color. Art isn't only about having a shape with shades. There is also details and other things to consider.

You are talking about my lion? OWAI, seems like I started yesterday, and still am able to make things look "nice but not amazing" as you put it. Really grow THE FUCK UP. Your such a prick. Talking about how we should be like kitties when talking to you, when your going around and talking like that to others. I had a reference, hell you should have one too. that's how you make things. You don't just go around making random shapes and go: Well I have an awesome drawing cause I didn't use reference.
Well then, thats your lose. I didnt trace, if thats what ur implying, your a dumb nut. Boba/flyinrooster can back me up cause they seen my broadcast it while I was making it.



Joshflighter says:
hey, con, please just put the warning thing, after I post this
since i will get one anyway

Con says:
josh im infractin u


So lastly, I would like to thank con for infracting me on this post. :3

[Con]

Proportions have been your weak point for a long time. Though I like the style you're going for, your work is never finished. Unfinished work, poor proportions, and what looks like rushed work really distracts from it. If you have the skill to make it better, let's see some it sometimes. I know you're still practicing, but you need to venture outside your comfort zone to improve. I'm not saying these things because I don't like your art style, or because I don't think you have any skills beyond this, I'm just giving my honest 2 cents here.

edit: the argument stops HERE

[BobtheGreatII]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-2copy-1.png

That looks pretty good. Some of the muscles look a little outta wack though. And I realize that the argument was stated to be over. But in Chain's defense, this is the gallery. Not a crit thread. So him saying he's showing something off, but doesn't really want crit on it seems perfectly reasonable to me. It's his thread, he can do what he wants. There's no rule against it.

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. :-3

I realize this post may make a few of you upset. And in my own defense, I'm not angry or anything, just thought I would calmly state my opinion.

So anywhozle,

Your paintings do have some trouble with proportions, practice makes perfect. Go crazy with colors, most famous artists did. If you're doing it for fun, who should try to stop you?

Also, finish some of your damn work Chains! :v:

[Con]

But in Chain's defense, this is the gallery. Not a crit thread. So him saying he's showing something off, but doesn't really want crit on it seems perfectly reasonable to me. It's his thread, he can do what he wants. There's no rule against it.
I think posting work in the studio is an open invitation to crit.The crit thread that I made was simply made to post small bits of work that didn't deserve a thread or a post in a gallery. This thread isn't only where he posts his work, but it's a place for discussion. Really, nobody is going to say "I love it, nice work" if that's not their opinion. Would it be fair not to post any crit in his thread? I don't think so, it's hard to improve by hearing praise only. There's no rule against posting crit in here either, and as much as it's Chains' thread, it's a message board centered around creative work.

[Roostervier]

Chains, not using references when they are clearly needed isn't something you should be proudly beating your chest about. The barbarian looks okay but it's quite clear that you didn't use a reference because the anatomy is so far off. Use some next time, and it will look much, much better.

[BobtheGreatII]

I think posting work in the studio is an open invitation to crit.The crit thread that I made was simply made to post small bits of work that didn't deserve a thread or a post in a gallery. This thread isn't only where he posts his work, but it's a place for discussion. Really, nobody is going to say "I love it, nice work" if that's not their opinion. Would it be fair not to post any crit in his thread? I don't think so, it's hard to improve by hearing praise only. There's no rule against posting crit in here either, and as much as it's Chains' thread, it's a message board centered around creative work.

And I agree. I just think sometimes people get personal and a bit anal about giving crit. They tend to think they are gods who know what is right for the other person. Which is usually not the best way to approach giving crit. Crit should always be constructive. Not a shouting match at who knows more. Crit can be welcomed or ignored, but it should also be given in a manor that it can be accepted without invoking eRage.

[Bastinka]

Muscular sand nig..

I actually think it's pretty neat, the ball ( eye? ) on it's head seems to kind of pop out.

[Joshflighter]

And I agree. I just think sometimes people get personal and a bit anal about giving crit. They tend to think they are gods who know what is right for the other person. Which is usually not the best way to approach giving crit. Crit should always be constructive. Not a shouting match at who knows more. Crit can be welcomed or ignored, but it should also be given in a manor that it can be accepted without invoking eRage.


If you are referring, I think im god, your wrong. I was friends with chains, and I know he can do better. Please don't insinuate.


Chains, look how this guy does it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqZDnjOXZ_c

[BobtheGreatII]

If you are referring, I think im god, your wrong. I was friends with chains, and I know he can do better. Please don't insinuate.


Chains, look how this guy does it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqZDnjOXZ_c

No, I was speaking about the community. Get off my back and stop taking things so personally.

[Chainsy]

Well I have decided to take yalls advice and do a cleaner style, a quick sketch:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/speedpaintcopy-1-1-1.png

[BobtheGreatII]

Looks pretty good to me. If you're looking for any ideas, check out this guy. He does some pretty crazy things.

http://www.youtube.com/user/macpulenta

[Limited]

You know what, I'm tired of shit this. Every time I come to this thread, I see some idiot hating on chains work, and for stupid reasons that have no grounding. Chains shouldnt have to defend his art.

I dont mean to derail the thread chains, but seriously some things need to be said.

Seriously, you cant call it art if it doesn't look good.
Care to define what "good" is? Firstly thats your opinion, which quite frankly sucks balls, but thats besides the point. Art isnt only about pretty paintings, its also about making bold statements, making people think. Art is a hugely broad subject, there are tons of different styles. You however, seem to think there is only one, go look at some of the best art in the world please.


Your perspectives are off. I suggest you go and learn the shapes on a human and the biology of a human, that create the shapes. Seriously, you really need to do this. You make alot of stuff wrong, like sometimes you make short hands compared to the body or weird shaped arms and stuff.
I'm not going to lie, Chains hasnt mastered perspective yet yes, however how do you think he should improve? Just think about it? No, he needs to practice, perhaps educate himself about art fundamentals, but the most important thing is practicing and to keep trying.

And for those of you who keep bitching about he never finishes pieces of art, you realise some of the best pieces of art in the world, are unfinished?

[Joshflighter]

You don't read what con posts do you? He said not to continue this. So im not. But really, you know chains is doing it wrong. He was told how to correct his work. There was no need for him to jump on my work to defend himself.

Edit: To the post below:

So according to you, because i showed an example, you had to go attack it, so that you can defend yourself? Lmao, your truly pathetic.

Ah. One more thing. why would I be butt hurt? Oh cause I don't suck as much as you. Durr, that's what I thought. :)

[Chainsy]

Yes josh, we know you are still butt hurt like little school girl, but please go bawww somewhere else, art is being produced and I do not need you bothering it.:realsmug:


I dont understand why you make your work so.. well not sloppy, but like kinda messy with the colors. I did my first picture in photo shop with the tablet, and it was not that hard to make it look realistic but also clean.

Bawwing post above about me dragging your work into this becomes invalid when you mentioned it in the first inflammatory post.

[SnaFuBAR]

Knock it off or else consequences.

thanks. :)

[Chainsy]

So I got 3 hours of work done, obviously his is nothing compared to josh's lion reference picture paintover painting.
Plan to do the arms and legs tomorrow, maybe the arms later tonight.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/dw.png
I have to skill to paint in whatever style I want as said, it is not because I do not know how to do it right, it is because I want to do it my own fucking way in my own fucking style. Fuck.
edit- I hope this works, zoomed in to show detail:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-3-1.png
edit- need to fix perspective on the rib cage tubes, going to add a double joint on legs, make forearms longer.

[SnaFuBAR]

one more time and you get a 3 point infraction for insubordination, chains.

josh, don't respond.

[MetKiller Joe]

This is nice. The neck region lacks some definition, but the concept overall (at the moment all I see is the head and shoulders) looks good.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/dw-1.png

[Bastinka]

Arms are a bit long, even though it's 'alien'. Normal proportions the wrists would be near or right next to the waist.

[Chainsy]

I discussed this with primo too, being the forearms are robotic, I wanted them lengthened, the drawn out legs will also be different, I plan on adding another joint to them.

[JunkfoodMan]

study anatomy and perspective please. these are the things i've noticed that are consistently wrong with your paintings. Always use a human reference when drawing, or get one of those wooden figures. it would help you ALOT.

[Invader Veex]

The arm looks like it's coated in plastic.

[Chainsy]

study anatomy and perspective please. these are the things i've noticed that are consistently wrong with your paintings. Always use a human reference when drawing, or get one of those wooden figures. it would help you ALOT.
Yes i mess up on anatomy and perspective and the perspective is wrong on this, but it is a imaginary alien, quit bitchin about anatomy that i made up for it. And the aim was for it to be plastic, metal would have a higher specular, more specifically a light-weight endurable plastic, that will house some pistons (the holes) that will create shock waves from his hands. :eng101:

[=sw=warlord]

Yes i mess up on anatomy and perspective and the perspective is wrong on this, but it is a imaginary alien, quit bitchin about anatomy that i made up for it. And the aim was for it to be plastic, metal would have a higher specular, more specifically a light-weight endurable plastic, that will house some pistons (the holes) that will create shock waves from his hands. :eng101:So tell me which kind of plastic is durable enough that when impacted on a solid surface it would cause shockwaves and still hold integrity?

[Chainsy]

Whatever kind of fucking plastic I invent of course, what else would you think? :allears:

[DEElekgolo]

Seems more like an excuse so you don't have to fix it...
When you know something is wrong and you say "I wanted it like that" to avoid it.
I would love to see more detail where the tubes connect to the torso instead of it just fading to black.

[Chainsy]

Excuse, or not, it is my creation, I can do what I want with it, and if I want it to be made out melted ken barbie dolls, it will be.

[Roostervier]

then dont bitch about it if people laugh at you or say its retarded.

[Chainsy]

Deal.

[Chainsy]

Woooo-weee been a while.
I wish I could say I was off researching new techniques, and had an epiphany, and got better....but no I was just caught up in school, speaking of which I am going to be taking my first art class next tri!!
Anyways, here is whats up, and no it is not human so don't bitch, I just haven't painted in the other 2 arms the freaky head.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1-3-1.png

[Chainsy]

Been quiet in this thread while, time to show what I have been up to:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/promocopy-2-1.png
I am making an odst comic, it will follow canon, but this will not be some gung-ho comic, it will be psychological, which is why I picked ODSTs rather then spartans.

[MetKiller Joe]

What is it?

[Cagerrin]

Looks like an SMG with a homemade plastic bottle suppressor.

[Invader Veex]

it will be psychological,

ilu.

but I can't tell what the picture is.

[Chainsy]

Should've done it from the front, it was a spin off of the e3 promo poster, it showed an smg beside a spartan's leg, I did it the other way around with a silenced smg.

[Higuy]

At first I didn't see the smg clearly because the grip blends in with the leg plating way to much. The barrel dosen't resemble a silenced smg much either.

[Chainsy]

Another try at a promo, hopefully this one is better.
Edit- FUCK I FORGOT TO FIX THE FAGGOT FOOT FUCK ME FUCKF UCKLFSGKLGHSK
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/promo2copy.png

[Chainsy]

Fix'd
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/promo2copy-2.png

[Newbkilla]

The foot still needs fixin, the smg looks 1 sided, you can't tell the difference between the two sides.

[Chainsy]

Testing out fonts, I have posted the promos on other sites, but only modacity will get to see this.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-7-1.png

[Higuy]

Maybe make the speech bubbles look like actual speech bubbles in a comic

[ICEE]

what did you do to me

[Chainsy]

Icee I had no idea your name was Matt. Also a thought I have been having on that, if Larry, Bob and Steve are so unoriginal names, how come you never see them now adays? Truth is, no one wants to do them because they think theyre generic and so in truth they are actaully uncommon. :realsmug:
Food for thought.

Anyways 1 and 30 min sketch.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-8.png

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF just noticed the head is too large vertically!!!:saddowns:

[Dwood]

Getting better.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-9.png

fffffffffffff now its a cone head, brb fml.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-10.png

[Gwunty]

I dont like the teal on his skin

[Chainsy]

I like the teal, better then the purple

[Inferno]

I don't like the teal.

[Chainsy]

AfZGZHGZJHJZ

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1-7.png
THERES YOUR FUCKING PURRRRPLLLEEE

[Dwood]

I like the teal better.

[Chainsy]

I wonder if that warning from lag jumps threads? :raise:

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I hate the teal.

[FRain]

FUCKING. SHOT. TAGS. CHAINS.

[Chainsy]

:smith: Frain is such a failure.
Edit- why the fuck is everyone doing the fucking teal thing, I helped with that shit and even I don't think it's funny or interesting anymore, the guys took it too far, get over it.

[Dwood]

I srs think teal was better

[Chainsy]

Oh it is, me and grunt were joking around and for the luls I pumped out a purple one in a quick edit. :realsmug:
That was like right after trolling CAD's thread.

[Dwood]

Oh it is, me and grunt were joking around and for the luls I pumped out a purple one in a quick edit. :realsmug:
That was like right after trolling CAD's thread.

Oh. It wasn't apparent. :iamafag:

[Chainsy]

Yea half of the joke occurred on xfire.

[Invader Veex]

What sort of a mood were you giving the picture? That should be your main concern for the color, imo.

[Heathen]

Testing out fonts, I have posted the promos on other sites, but only modacity will get to see this.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-7-1.png

Looks like a horse in the second pic on the top.

[Chainsy]

It is a horse? :raise:

[Malloy]

Looks like the scene replicates the events just before Donald Rumsfelt released the swine flu virus onto the world.

[Chainsy]

Welp, comp broke down, now back obviously, but what is important is that when i have no way to ruin my eyes via electronic screen, i go to ruining my eyes via paper!!!
So huge traditional art dump inbound, just 10 min sketches that I had time to do during free time during school.
A fore thanks to bapsi, who inspired me on the shading style.

[SiriusTexra]

Looks like the scene replicates the events just before Donald Rumsfelt released the swine flu virus onto the world.

Get the fuck out non zionist supporting left right up down crazy fuck teabagging wack a hole mole c.i.a.lqueda poppy farming child sex ring circle jerking communist propaganda dennis leary hating conspiracy jerk off. Anti socialist.

Everyone knows the swine flu is a serious incident and needs global attention before we all get sniffly noses. Obamacare will save us and help us from wasting all our tissues on mucus, and let us clean up the blood of those dirty sneaky no good neighbours of ours who don't want to give our carbon tax money to Al Gore and his "grassroots" scientifically credible movement.




Btw chains, I don't mean to be harsh, but It is quite evident that people havent been doing their jobs here. You haven't progressed at all from what I remember, no ones been giving you proper crit, or you haven't been listening.

You need to either turn on the opacity fade in photoshop, or get a better tablet, if that's the problem.

[Chainsy]

30 dollar tablet from 2000 :smith:

[Disaster]

30 dollar tablet from 2000 :smith:
uhh

Get a better fucking tablet.

I have the Intuos 3 6x8

[Chainsy]

Well here are some shitty traditional images with bad proportions, shading and perspective that took zero time and I shouldn't even post because i'll get flamedddd and look even shittier because I am dirt poor and cant afford artistic pencils or a scannneeeeer!!! yaaaaay!:smith:
edit- If I wasn't so lazy I would scale them so they actaully look good

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6564.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6565.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6566.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6567.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6568.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6570.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6571.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6572.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6573.jpg

[Warsaw]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6566.jpg


Chocolate Rainnnnnn!

Anywho, flamed? Nonsense...I call this kind of stuff "practise." :)

Also, the shading ain't that terrible; half of it is probably more accurate than what I can do. :smith:

[killer9856]

The shading has its own kind of cartoon style. The things here are decent

[Boba]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6570.jpg
only thing that you've ever done that i've liked

bravo

[Chainsy]

:smith: Idk if I should be offended or flattered

[BobtheGreatII]

:smith: Idk if I should be offended or flattered

Yes. :downs:

[Dwood]

It means you should increase the standard for yourself.

[Chainsy]

So I am going to start painting forerunner scenery for any random mapper to use as inspiration, here is the first piece, since this is the first one its p shitty but oh well.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/eh.png

[Hunter]

That looks awesome Chains, just finish the structure to the left.

Lighting all looks perfect as well, although the water at the bottom right of the waterfall looks weird.

That's probably your best piece that I have seen, the grass looks awesome. So do the rocks.

Get it finished with a nice clear sky and some alien bird things which Halo has. Or earth birds. You should so add a croc coming out of the water in the bottom right corner of the screen :P

[Dwood]

You need to work on the fore-runner design and view but your rocks n' stuff is pretty good.

[Chainsy]

Perspective is fucked and lighting could've been done better, but it is gud for just winging it with no pre plans.

[Heathen]

You have gotten better.

[mech]

That looks pretty cool, perspective is a little wonky though. Keep up the good work and you'll eventually be amazing.

[Disaster]

It helps if you draw out perspective lines before working on a separate layer. Something which I never see you do and is why you have fucked up perspective.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/drawing-geometric-perspective.html

[SnaFuBAR]

your perspective is off as is your lighting. You're casting shadows like local light, rather than sunlight, which, for outdoors, is wrong as hell. take a look at how shadows are cast in sunlight and your work will be a lot more convincing.

[Chainsy]

Kay, time to go raid reapers thread.

[Chainsy]

So I am doing a tutorial/ contest at concept.org that is a week long.
I want to shoot to win so I am going all out on this one.
Basically we're supposed to create demons from the ninth circle of hell, so I decided to create an epic mood to go with them.
I will post my process here and in the end will compile them all into a large tutorial on things such as composition, placement, and other bullshit I have no idea about.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/chowcopy-1.png

[Chainsy]

Going to fix forehead and nose, crooked mouth is intentional.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/chowcopy2.png

[Warsaw]

Eyes are crooked too, the left one (from our perspective) is too low.

[Chainsy]

Ok will move that up.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/chow3.png

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/chowcopy4.png
Edit- need to make hips wider.

[Warsaw]

And I hope that scribbly section is not the entire length of his legs...much too short.

Face is still the weakest point so far. The angling of everything just seems flat. I believe that less of the right eye should be visible and the bridge of the nose shout come further forward...I don't know how to describe it exactly. Just take a good look at it and you should see what I mean.

Also, I'm not sure what kind of lighting you're using or what direction it's coming from, but there seems to be some contradicting shadows in the neck area compared to the rest of the body.

[Chainsy]

Thank you, you're right about the neck, the left side should be in shadow, and I understand completely what you mean about the face, but any edits to the face will come last as I just want to get the figure fleshed out as of now. One of the legs is bent, but I will check the other one to see if it is a proper length.
edit- need to thin out closest forearm.

[Warsaw]

When figure drawing, I generally make a stick figure "skeleton" of the character so I can get all the proportions down and the angles right. I don't know if you did that here, but from what I can tell it looks like you didn't (legs too short, left arm too short, especially the upper arm, torso also a tad on the short side). I'd suggest doing that on physical paper first, and then using it as a template when you draw it digitally.

About the left arm: when it's straight up in the air, the elbow joint should be about level with the top of his head. Picturing it now, it looks like it'd end up around brow or forehead level, especially at the angle we are viewing it from.

I'm no expert in art, as I've received no formal education other than the things they make you learn in middle school, this is just how I'm perceiving it. Being thus uneducated, I can infer that other uneducated people might see it as awkward as well.

[Chainsy]

When figure drawing, I generally make a stick figure "skeleton" of the character so I can get all the proportions down and the angles right. I don't know if you did that here, but from what I can tell it looks like you didn't (legs too short, left arm too short, especially the upper arm, torso also a tad on the short side). I'd suggest doing that on physical paper first, and then using it as a template when you draw it digitally.

About the left arm: when it's straight up in the air, the elbow joint should be about level with the top of his head. Picturing it now, it looks like it'd end up around brow or forehead level, especially at the angle we are viewing it from.

I'm no expert in art, as I've received no formal education other than the things they make you learn in middle school, this is just how I'm perceiving it. Being thus uneducated, I can infer that other uneducated people might see it as awkward as well.
Ok, the left arm is fixed, right arm is lengthened a bit, the bent leg was fine, straight one was too short, I am going to have to redo the left forearm, or I would post the picture. I would draw from paper but I do not posses a scanner and my camera is a piece of shit. Also I have not even taken any art classes so some of the things like setting up a skeleton are unknown to me, I have just found ways to work around them.

[Warsaw]

Hell, you don't need to scan the skeleton in. As long as you have it somewhere visible, it will be of some use.

[SnaFuBAR]

Face proportions are wrong, muscles are totally wrong. You're aiming to win yet it seems like you don't try to really observe what you're attempting to paint. Even the way you're painting muscles looks totally contradictory to the way flexors and extensors work. The ribcage area and the outstretched arm are very obvious when it comes to this (especially muscle group placement under that arm).

People are everywhere, google images and IRL.

[Chainsy]

So I am designing a "new" type of gun for halo, I hope I am doing everything right, if not, when I post it tell me and I will make the necessary changes.

[Gwunty]

and you will actually finish this one?
ha ha ha

[Hunter]

Crit:
The albow seems very weird and deformed. I did read part of Snaf's post and I agree with him. The muscles do look odd in some parts.

The face, well, you should forget for now and just work on the main body, then come back to it. People do tend to notice face's more on an image, but in this case it seems that the images has a posture to indicate an object or feeling ect...

What happened to the image where you had a grassy environment with cliffs and forerunner structures ect? Just finish a damn painting man...

And seeming as you are designing a new weapons which is based around Halo please do not make it just black and white blocky details like you used to. Give it shading and shiny, so it looks 3dish...
(Again, sorry if my post makes no sense as I have been mates 18th party.)

[Chainsy]

Typed this just now as a reply to a man who wrote this on facepunch, not really meant to mean anything, just my quick thought process over it, thought it would be fun to discuss it.
Here's what he wrote:
Here is some stuff I wrote on the front of a Chemistry mock exam in the spare time at the end, please bear in mind that I was mildly depressed at the time, as I often am when I think of these things, and the train of thought often wavers all over the place:

Intellectual Writings posted:
When you consider all the people that exist, have existed, and will exist, and so all the choices and decisions that ever have and ever will be made; my choices and I are less significant than a single electron in the universe at a given time.
The thing is, so much could happen in my life, that I could actually be very important, that i could change the world; just like one electron in the right place at the right time, could change the universe. But the chances of that are so very slim, very slim indeed, that my choices, my worries, and my fears are all so very worthless, meaningless and insognificant. So much so, that odds dictate that I should fear nothing, worry about nothing.
But that is not human nature. The healthy human mind will have trouble grasping this concept, as it always wants to survive and survive and survive, always wants to live on. But if everything is so insignificant, why do we continue to live, to grasp to survival. As I said before, it is human nature, indeed it is an instinkt among all organisms, but why is it, especially for us humans. why do we continue to doom this planet that would do so much better without us, we always overcome illness and "problems" with nature. But why, what is the point of life?
Well, that is the question now isn't it?
There is a theory, of which I cannot remember the name, which states that up until the outcome of a choice or situation is made/found, the every single possibility is happening at the same time. If this is so, then potentially everyone is always special, everyone is always able to change the world.
But yet again, human nature steps in,wanting the easy way out, usually doing very little and changing even less unless the situation demands it.
We always want to survive, to thrive, for no reason in particular except the reason of survival itself. It's just what we do, no matter what the consequences; so it is human nature in its laziness that stops us from changing the world, but it is also human nature, in its need to survive that often drives the biggest, most world changing of all decisions. Just like it is the electrons nature to bond, leading it do either do very little and effect less, or just happen to bond with the right atom, at the right time in the right place, that could change the entire course of the universe, or at least a few galaxies.
As i mentioned earlier, it is very hard for the human mind to grasp this kind of concept. The reason for this that the human mind and imagination is extremely limited. We cannot truly imagine/ make anything up, not really, we just re-use what we know/have experienced. Due to this, and the rather small scope of the lives most of us live, it can be very difficult to grasp the sheer scale of this kind of concept. I cannot fully grasp it, no way, not ever. Anyone that says they can, are lying. The only being(s) that grasp the entire course of time's choices are the being referred to as Gods. But I, like many others can grasp the overall idea and a small amount of this concept; but then there are the ones who really can't grasp this, the simpletons, the idiots, the under-educated, the narrow minded and arrogant; and from personal experience I can predict that these people may react with the most basic of all human reactions: Anger. They may call this stupid because they don't understand, they may call me weird or strange (not that I disagree) but those with an open mind will be able to grasp this quite well.

Also linked to limited-ness of the human mind/imagination (and aliens), our scientists say that most/many planets cannot support life. But this could quite possibly be due to a limited understanding of science. aliens may work in a completely different way to how we do, and may break many "laws" of science, as none of these "laws" are set in stone, they are just solutions hypothesized to fit both the problem and the solution, and are often replaced by better theories all the time. In this way, if a grown adult ever saw one of these "impossible" aliens, then they would probably either die or become heavily mentally effected, because they could not handle this "thing" that goes against all they "know". The only ones that could handle these life-forms would be the EXTREMELY open minded, so open minded that often their mind would be unstable, yes the 'loons. The other group who could handle this are the ones that are open minded, because they have nothing filling them, young children for example.

I am aware there are mistakes, it is nearly 3AM as i write this, and I will fix them later. Also, yes, I am fond of my commas.

My reply:
This is less an intellectual writing and more of a musing that has been thought since the dawn of asking "why". You are entirely correct in the thought that humans reuse everything, even history, and your very writing is an example of that. Life is merely a definition given by humans, same as time and any other word. That is why there is no true meaning to life as life is not a universal thing (given the thought that there is other beings in this universe). This is the same to all other words except for things such as adjectives, and even then these can only be used as a matter of opinions. But, if you want to honestly have an answer to the meaning of life, its to live. It's that simple, people over think it, there is nothing more or nothing less, your whole life is to live. You eat, you sleep, you grow, you make choices, it's living, whether its in a shit hole or in a palace, all people are just living, same as anything else. The factors that come and go and change the individual or the world are insignificant because they are not life, they are a separate variable, just like in an equation. Life can be x, it can equal anything, the variables such as 3x + 3 = 6 simply define one scenario out of infinity for that life. So in finality, the meaning of life in the simplest terms is to live.
Yes I kind of contradict myself, oh well.

[Con]

If you simplify it down entirely, life is just a self-sustaining reaction. Life has evolved to sustain itself and not the resources it depends upon.

[bapsi]

i hope you finish that wip that you posted, it could be a great learning experience if you pull through with it.
my knowledge of the face sucks balls as well, as you can see, but i hope i get some sort of point across with this paintover.
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1582/assnf.jpg
Envision the head in a cube, and work accordingly.
don't be afraid of looking for or even making your own reference for this head angle, it's one of the more challenging angles to draw x__x so, no shame.
with that said. I'd like you to meet my good friend andrew loomis. (http://fineart.sk/show.php?w=17)
though you're on CA, so you probably know him well by know, right?

i have a handful of suggestions for the position of the chest and arm-- you're pushing front view when the arm's telling me it's rotated more toward the figure's right.
what I think snafu is suggesting is correct-- a solution for something like this is grounded in life drawing and anatomy study. draw people in photos and irl to gain an understanding of how forms work, then anatomy to really know how the muscles function.

like i said. promising wip. I'd love to see your sb on ca to give crits and see how you progress.

[Chainsy]

Eh, there's just so much wrong with it, I think it's better to just wipe the slate clean and move on. Currently I am just working in traditional as I enjoy it more, partly because of the control I have that I can not get with my old shitty tablet.

[bapsi]

yeah. i can agree with you there.
trying to tackle both trad and digi at the same time, while learning the basics of painting.
it's tough shit.

[Chainsy]

Ah the drawing I have got down fine :downs:
Just really trying to make myself well rounded, or enough so that I can get into a good art school to learn, currently teaching myself water color.

[bapsi]

looks like you've got an okay drawing technique down, but i suggest you study basic proportion and light, not only in figures and portraits, but in anything else that you draw.

try studying from life, if you're not doing it already. and post it.
I'm looking forward to giving feedback for what you paint with watercolor.

by the way, is there any school that you have in mind? where do you plan to apply?

[Chainsy]

Ah thanks, and no, to be honest I have no idea about what art schools I am going to be attending. I do draw from life, but I do not have a scanner to post, only a crappy camera. Fourtnately I got some new equipment over xmas so I can now do much nicer shading, and the pencil sketches from further back do not reflect my skill at all. Any help will be appreciated though.

[bapsi]

like i said. happy to help.
but i can't crit what i can't see.

[Chainsy]

I really need a fucking scanner. All my shit comes out blurry as fuck.
Also my better ones are in my locker at school, I will recover them asap.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6881.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6882.jpg
Mechanics for a gun, just blocking out the shape, barrel will be longer, sights will be fixed, the mag will be skinnier, weapon will be skinnier possible, need to add flashlight, ect.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6884.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6888.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6889.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6896.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6907.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6915.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6917.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6919.jpg

[BobtheGreatII]

Purchase a scanner. Now.

[Chainsy]

Yea, it would help with my digital work tons.. I also need a tablet that wasn't included in a package made in 2001 for 12+ kids beginning in cutout digital art.
Ill try to get my best works up slowly, though 2 of them are at my gpas, they also happen to be my fav.... :smith:

[Warsaw]

Magazine on the gun doesn't need to be skinnier, but the rest of the thing does need to be much slimmer.

What is the the picture under the gun? I see bottles, and the rest reminds me of Indiana Jones.

[Reaper Man]

At the very least, get your stuff scanned at Kinkos so you can show off your work's full potential.

That or, if you have a tripod, use that with your camera.

[Chainsy]

No tripod, found an old scanner, Idk if it works though...

[Warsaw]

How old are we talking here? If it's 90s tech, then I don't think you'll even be able to get software working for it, assuming you are using Vista/7.

[Dwood]

How old are we talking here? If it's 90s tech, then I don't think you'll even be able to get software working for it, assuming you are using Vista/7.

:linux:

[Chainsy]

How old are we talking here? If it's 90s tech, then I don't think you'll even be able to get software working for it, assuming you are using Vista/7.
2000-2001 model and I'm running xp.

[Warsaw]

Oh, well then you are in luck. I've an old 90s scanner. I can only use it because I have XP as well (backwards compatibility supremacy ftw!).

[ExAm]

Holy shit, Chains, what did you do? Sign a pact with the devil or something? What happened to the shitty paintings you used to do?

I need to get back to drawing. And I want newegg to hurry up and send me my replacement tablet. Good stuff.

[Heathen]

Holy shit that was chains? This is chains thread?

That stuff is great man!

[Chainsy]

I've always been able to do traditional just fine, I just suck at digital art and that's all I have ever posted because it is what I have needed to majorly improve on. My thinking was why post work and get the "omg wow lol" bullshit, when I have this other media I need to improve on. Bapsi is the one who convinced me to post them so. :downs:

[Chainsy]

A quick doodle I did today.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6922.jpg

[Heathen]

CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIINNN

[Chainsy]

Get that shit music out of here.

~SKA 4 LIFE

[Con]

Is this the same chains? The tablet's really screwin with you.

[Heathen]

srsly, wtf. Drop the digital shit. Or find out whats stopping this from flowing onto the pad.

[Higuy]

using a pencil and a tablet are 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.

i'm like chains too, i can pretty decently with a pencil and paper but when it comes to digital drawing im horrible. theres something about it that's just not like traditional pencil and paper and it becomes difficult.

nice stuff chains, looks great. definitely better then any of your digital art. you really need to get a decent scanner and start scanning your stuff.

[Bastinka]

theres something about it that's just not like traditional pencil and paper and it becomes difficult.

You can very easily stimulate pressure and it's 'opacity' and you get a nice feel of the pencil and how it interacts with the medium. I also prefer pencil and paper, it's much easier to make something look nice because you can be messy and the outcome will look great.

[ExAm]

The thing here is that Chains works best in pencil. A quick google search turns up a nice looking pencil brush (http://koifishsushi.deviantart.com/art/Awesome-Photoshop-Pencil-Brush-88228914?offset=10). See if you can work with that like you do on paper. Also, depending on the type of tablet you have, you can buy felt nibs for wacom pens, which give you better control.

[Higuy]

The thing here is that Chains works best in pencil. A quick google search turns up a nice looking pencil brush (http://koifishsushi.deviantart.com/art/Awesome-Photoshop-Pencil-Brush-88228914?offset=10). See if you can work with that like you do on paper. Also, depending on the type of tablet you have, you can buy felt nibs for wacom pens, which give you better control.
Nice. I'll give this a try with my tablet later as well.

[Hunter]

I like the drawing in the top post, looks awesome.

[Chainsy]

Yea, all the above are true. The main problem is that my tablet is so cheap it doesn't even recognize varying pen pressures or turning of the pen... any feature you see on any nice tablet or even a mediocre one, this tablet does not have. It is literally a plastic square smaller then my hand with a plastic stick...no buttons.

[ExAm]

Wait a second, what kind of tablet do you have? You need to get yourself a Bamboo Pen. $70 US. Damn cheap for a tablet, paperlike surface, and pressure sensitivity. No tilt sensitivity, but that doesn't really matter much.

[Chainsy]

I have a adesso.

[Corndogman]

Yeah. I got my bamboo for like $50 at best buy (was on sale I think) and you could probably get one for around the same price somewhere. It sound like its a thousand times better than what you have.

[ExAm]

I have a adesso.
Glossy surface, right? Probably exactly why you aren't that good with it. Get yourself a bamboo, the surface is excellent. Also, if you want even more friction, buy a set of felt nibs from wacom's site.

[Chainsy]

When or IF I get the money to. Parents in short supply of money, job pays shit and I have to contribute to keeping the internet running for my comp.

[bapsi]

bawwwwww

[Chainsy]

FFFFFffuuuuuuuuuu :smith:

God damn womanz artists, always getting the good stuff by flirting with the teachers.

[Heathen]

iow, your ugly so you suck?

[Chainsy]

No, I am ugly so I can't draw all the time and flirt with teachers to give me good grades. :smith: Have you seen her notebooks? I have like an hour a day to draw.

edit- whats with the hate recently heathen? Are you on your period :(

[Chainsy]

Starting sketch for the chow contest, it's due tomorrow, just getting in the greyscale values first.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/chow.png

[Chainsy]

I hate scanners, they're always alluding me in my quest for them.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6933.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6934.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6937.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6939.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6940.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6941.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6944.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6946.jpg

[Geo]

Fuck, chains I'm about ready to ship my old scanner out to you :mad:

[BobtheGreatII]

Yeah seriously. You need to go steal one.

[Heathen]

No, I am ugly so I can't draw all the time and flirt with teachers to give me good grades. :smith: Have you seen her notebooks? I have like an hour a day to draw.

edit- whats with the hate recently heathen? Are you on your period :(

nah, just farting around with you.

[P0Qbum]

K:realsmug::realsmug:L Beans

[Heathen]

lol 1pban

[Nero]

I'm not sure why. But all your biped concept's seem stretched in one direction or kind of flat. Im not sure if its because of the actual concept position or your shading, but I noticed this with almost all your work.

[Chainsy]

Probably a combination of the angle of the camera, my shaking hands, and the tendency to shade in one direction because I love the flow it creates.

[Chainsy]

Ugh I need a gig for conception, I am trying to move away from ce and get into unreal or crysis. I have shit luck.

[Chainsy]

So...yea... weed + an hour of free time + multicolored water colors = trippy self portrait
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6959-1.jpg

[Chainsy]

A quick sketch of an airport, it was a concept for a mod but i quit so I have no clue if they're using it.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/airportbasiccopy.png

[ExAm]

Did you actually include the wavy mirage above the blacktop? That's pretty good. What type of brush did you use?

[Chainsy]

They're basically a mixture of the round brush and the square grunge brushes, all part of the standard brushes in photoshop cs3

[Hunter]

Chains, that is AWESOME! Do more but forerunner style :)

[Warsaw]

Airport is probably one of your best pieces yet, that I've seen. Nice! I especially like the shrubs.

[Hunter]

You know what would look cool, the chief walking towards the airport with dust coming from his feet. Just casual walking though, not on guard, with his arms swinging with an AR in his hand.

[Heathen]

Lol, hunter, gtfo the halo cock.

I'll admit I love halo, but not everything would be better + halo.

And I agree, that is the best thing you have ever done chains.

[Nero]

Wow, big jump chains. Doesn't even look like you made that. :neckbeard:

[ExAm]

Hey chains, you know what would be cool?

If you recorded your screen while you did that.

I would watch the hell out of that video.

Then I would steal your techniques.

[Hunter]

Lol, hunter, gtfo the halo cock.

I'll admit I love halo, but not everything would be better + halo.

And I agree, that is the best thing you have ever done chains.

But it looked cool in my head :P

[Chainsy]

I guess I can satisfy both hunter's and exam's sexual fantasies and do a recording of me painting a spartan like figure walking in the desert.
Here's the basic sketch, but I will need a recording program or an agreed upon time to broadcast.
I will go into proper use of shadows and using proper highlights and reactions to light to define materials:
And yes there are some perspective issue son the plating on the chest, the only thing that is even close to being refined is the arm, the rest is just basic placing to have an idea of what will be done.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-11.png
Head is too high up, too big, will fix the thigh length and leg placement, will try to loosen up the right arm.

[Heathen]

the arm itself is too stubby

[Chainsy]

Good! That will give me an example on how to easy fix things like those, will show on the vid.
Edit- need to widen up chest too...he's too..anorexic looking.

[Con]

I think the head's too big, not that hes anorexic looking.

[Chainsy]

I'll just have to figure out then by shrinking the head, either way it's a simple fix!

[Disaster]

You've gotten alot better. Nice progress. Still needs alot of work to before I'm going to call it amazing though. ;)

[Chainsy]

Disaster you're fat!!!

true story.

[Chainsy]

So I am redesigning the SPI armor in hopes someone will model it... Here is the first basic prototype, I am redoing the forearm's design completely, but give any suggestions you want. Ugh I just noticed I need to fix the back of the head too.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/Untitled-1copy-12.png

[Heathen]

Something about him is making him look stubby.

[Higuy]

I'm liking the arm and helmet; body looks ok. Shoulders need to be a bit broader, unless its a woman.

[Warsaw]

Broader shoulders would actually make it look more like a woman.

[ExAm]

Chains, his arms are too short. They should be long enough so that if he's standing straight, the fingertips will end up around the middle of the outer thigh, about five (to scale) inches from the knee, by my measurements.

[Chainsy]

Ok, I will keep that in mind, the armor made it hard for me to properly lengthen or shorten the arms (they started out longer) because I drew them in after the main body (I am sofa king we-tar-ed)

[Heathen]

we todd ed is what you were going for.

[Higuy]

Broader shoulders would actually make it look more like a woman.
Really? I was always told that men have broader shoulders then woman.

[DEElekgolo]

Really? I was always told that men have broader shoulders then woman.
Maybe he's from russia.

[Warsaw]

They do. But proportionately, women's shoulders are broader. It's part of that elusive "hour glass figure." :haw:

[Heathen]

Ah, I was confused but that cleared it up lol.

[Chainsy]

:smith: Anyway have any concept art jobs? Will concept for food..


also +rep is appreciated if you enjoy my art. You don't have to, but yea, you have to.

[Warsaw]

Couldn't remember if I had repped you for the airport one or not, so I did it again anyways. :v:

[Chainsy]

So yea, had 15 minutes to spare to do a material + value study on a shottie. (gtfo off my cock about the gun, I had to do one from my mind since schools don't appreciate people looking up guns on their computers)
Also the camera made the pic blurry, tried to at least somewhat sharpen it and well.... :suicide:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6974-1.jpg

[Warsaw]

As far as materials and values go, the front is ok. Everything after that is "meh". I can't tell if you used a straight edge or not (too blurry, looks like you didn't), but if not, you should.

Also, no locking mechanism...:haw:. =þ

[Warsaw]

As far as materials and values go, the front is ok. Everything after that is "meh". I can't tell if you used a straight edge or not (too blurry, looks like you didn't), but if not, you should.

Also, no locking mechanism...:haw:. =þ

[Chainsy]

It's the pictuureee. :( In the actual sketchbook everything looks how it is supposed to!

[Warsaw]

Get a sca--oh yeah.

I remember everybody used to think that I'd get in serious trouble for drawing guns in school. Never once was I stopped for drawing guns and weapons.

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6993.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6992.jpg

[bapsi]

study more anatomy.
no more excuses.

[Chainsy]

Fine :(
edit- I can get certain anatomy studies done, but it's hard to explain to people why I am drawing scantily clad or naked people in a book (especially my parents)

[Warsaw]

Fine :(
edit- I can get certain anatomy studies done, but it's hard to explain to people why I am drawing scantily clad or naked people in a book (especially my parents)

So don't bother explaining?

[BobtheGreatII]

Say you like men and give them a serious face. They'll probably leave you alone for a little while.

[bapsi]

why the fuck do you need to explain?
aren't you a sexually tense little teenage boy? that can be reason enough for your fascination with nekkid peeps.

anywho. less talk more studies. dammit.

[Chainsy]

I don't like how this one turned out, but since it took up some time today (25 min) I guess it deserves enough love to be shown.
(mustache and eye patch error hiders go!)
Also lips make me sad face.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6996.jpg

[Heathen]

Or tell them you are studying anatomy to draw better :downs:

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6997.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_6999.jpg

[Con]

Either crop your images or use shot tags please.

[Chainsy]

:allears:How do I use shot tags?


edit -but fine.

[Choking Victim]

how to use shot tags:
[shot ]image url[/shot ]
NO EXCUSE

u blind? or trollin'?

[Chainsy]

What do you think, and anyways if you read the edit I said fine to him. :raise:

[Heathen]

he isn't cool enough to be blind.

[Chainsy]

My nuts....they hurt..

[Boba]

it looks like you're trying to be bapsi

i mean that in whatever way makes you happiest

[Dwood]

Fine :(
edit- I can get certain anatomy studies done, but it's hard to explain to people why I am drawing scantily clad or naked people in a book (especially my parents)

Tell them it's you're outlet for sex so you don't go and do it with a real girl.

[Chainsy]

it looks like you're trying to be bapsi

i mean that in whatever way makes you happiest
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

But no, here is a list of differences:
-She likes pens
-she seems to have a cultural style leaning towards asian art
-She uses designs that flow with her images to certain points
- She has a very quick cross hatch style

In other words, yes I have studied her works and she is an inspiration, but here is my style, which is less then hers:
- Simplified single drawings, never tend to do more then one drawing per page.
- I love greek and roman art
- I use a mechanical pencil and use small cross hatches that build up one another and go in one direction to create light, basically a much slower and time consuming version of bapsi's.

So yes, I have learned a shit load from her, and I can easily say that. I am not, however trying to be her. I want to express what I see in my own way and if it involves implementing a piece of someone else's style, then there is nothing wrong with that boba. Each style is a pickings of styles from previous artists who made a large impact on your life. Hope that clears up any confusion you have boba, any crit on the actual work though might be helpful and would be appreciated as apposed to this session of me helping you. :)

[Heathen]

cute :allears:

Im gonna tell her.

[Chainsy]

She can probably see herself, the thread is 3 above hers :eng101:

[Chainsy]

I don't really like this sketch, alot of things wrong with it, but I guess it deserves some love:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/100_7004.jpg

[Warsaw]

Where can I get your drawing confidence? Even though you know something isn't right, you finish it anyways, consider it practise, and move on...I can't do that. D:

[Chainsy]

Oh trust me, I leave thousands of sketches undone. Every artist at one point or another in a piece has doubts about how it looks. Regardless you should get into the habit of pushing through, because the overall final piece could look better then you thought.
It's more of relaxing and drawing what you want to draw and not thinking " Oh I have to draw this perfectly and nicely s I can post it online and not get flamed"

[Warsaw]

Basically, yeah, for the last part. Perfectionism is both a blessing and a curse...

[Chainsy]

So yea, starting to get into 3d since I love clay, got zbrush today and I love it:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/side.png
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/orographic.png
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/eliteroofofmouth.png
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/elitelowerneck.png
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/eliteforward.png
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/backneck.png

[Chainsy]

Forgot to ask, would anyone be willing to let me send them this head so they could model basic armor on it? In turn I would go through it in zbrush and texture it and make it all purty on a plaque and give it back. :iamafag:

[Chainsy]

Rearranging of details:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/ZBrushDocument.jpg

[Heathen]

why does that elite have massive facial herpes?

[Chainsy]

That's what generally happens after someone eats out your mom heathen, it will go away eventaully. shit questions get you shit answers

[Warsaw]

To be fair, it does look more like a Flood-infected Elite than a true live one.

[Chainsy]

I think it's more because of the material I am using highlights and accents all marks to show off detail.. So it gets glossy, wet look plus because of the shadowing it makes everything look alot deeper then it's meant to be, including the neck veins. I have already applied part of the base texture and it looks much nicer now.

-but of course I took artistic license and since people are used to the smooth skin, non scary elites, I can see how small spikes could come off more as boils or degraded skin since that's what we associate with the flood.

edit- which is why in the touch up the neck is far less bubbly then in the previous screenshots.

[Chainsy]

Basic shape for the armor, note that this is not the chest but merely the area that the shoulders would come out. Everything below that will be flat cut and put on the plaque.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/ZBrushDocument-1.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/side-2.jpg

[Hunter]

Locus/Elite? Looks nice, I wanna get into doing this. Im looking forward to seeing this baked onto a lowerpoly :P

I have gotton bored of modeling and out of the phase. Lmao. I think they are over for now.

[Malloy]

LOL has got more growths on its face than your average mirror. Try and create an 'elite skin' stamp and do another once you've done that. I like how you've started to flesh teh body out... just dont make that a growthfest :P