[COMPLETE] Dads Pond

[nick3d]

Well its took me about 4 hours to do, aint doing textures just put colour on for my dads sake

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/dadspond.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/dadspond2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/dadspond3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/dadspond4.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/dadspond5.jpg

[mech]

I find it hard to believe that this took 4 hours. I also don't see the thing you were supposed to be modelling, a pond, where is it?

[thehoodedsmack]

Pretty sure it's the green hole in the ground.

[Limited]

4 hours? seriously? what the fuck. Isnt it just a bunch of primitive objects?

I gotta be honest, doesnt look like a pond at all, do you have any pictures of the real life counterpart?

[FluffyDucky™]

Yeah, I looked at it, I didn't really know what was the pond. I don't get it.

[Bad Waffle]

I feel cheated...i expected a nice green rock-bordered backyard dealie and all i got were a bunch of primitives and NO WIREFRAME OR TRI COUNT WHICH IS AGAINST THE FORUM RULES.

i gotta start enforcing this a bit better. It WAS a suggestion, but nobody's doing it.

Unlock the topic when you can provide those things.

[nick3d]

Right well the pond is the dark green thing which is a raised pond. it is 6ft deep. the 2 things either side are filters, the 1 at the very back (red dot) is the 1st filter it runs through, it is called a settlement chamber it then goes into the second part (yellow) which has japanese matting in (light blue), then it goes back into the pond the brown dotted area is called a sump or something like that. the green is the pond. the pink part is the window which will have a steel frame and the glass is literally an inch thick.

I was requested for a wireframe and poly count, but i thought id give you a brief explanation and the poly count is at the bottom
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/pondexplan.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/pondexplannomarks.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/pondwire.jpg





tri count 1126

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The Story.
right so this is exactly to scale of my dads pond. The pond itself isnt built yet its in the process of being dug put. my dad asked me to do a basic design but exact to scale, and thats why it took so long. The pond is going to be 7000-10000 gallons i cant remember to be honest.

[Limited]

Yeah, what I didnt understand before was this actually a sort of concept for the pond, I thought it was already built :)

[nick3d]

Ill get you some pics of the Work In Progress of the pond being built. The other day we were digging and we actually come across the foundations for a air raid shelter it was quite cool actually, and i fount a WW1 padlock.
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http://www.swelluk.com/img/shop/thumb/japanese_matting.jpgThis is what japanese matting is, it is a filter media, which is made up of fibres
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Well here are them W.I.P. Images of the pond being built and dug. They are off http://www.koivista.com, my dads Profile which they are taken off
this is our old pond which was knocked down
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/73411_Pond_3.jpg
our Temporary pond lol
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/73443_tempory_pond.jpg
Demolishing of the old pond and concrete thing which took a whole day to move lol
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/73445_old_pond_demolished.jpg
This is the start to the dig, which is with our cover which we were using so we could dig in the rain, (which didnt go to plan)
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/73955_digging_1.jpg
Temp cover
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/73957_temp_cover.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/73959_digging_3.jpg
Bro and dad at work
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/74331_new_pond_dig_001.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/74331_new_pond_dig_002.jpg
Me Wheel barrowing
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/74335_new_pond_dig_006.jpg
The Air Raid shelter foundations cool or what.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/74579_28_12_08_007.jpg
And this is the latest 1 which is from this weekend

[Hunter]

Maya not for these kind of things. AutoCAD/SolidWorks.

They are your best bet. You could design anything in that and print out blueprints with mesurments on.

Google.com = SolidWorks

Look into it :)
Because you will never get it 100% accurate in maya.

[nick3d]

Cheers, ill have a look in that 'solid works'
+ iv got autoCAD which would be the best fit for it, but i cant use it :(

[Hunter]

Google.com + PC Help Forums

get help and fix problems :)

[mech]

Everything you do in autocad can be done in 3ds max.

[Hunter]

autocad has mesurements. 3ds max does not.

[Corndogman]

You can setup your units to whatever you like in max. You can make it 1 unit=1 inch/meter/foot whatever.

[Hunter]

Well I didnt know that Lol.

[nick3d]

Can you do that in Maya?
If so can you tell me :)

[Limited]

Take a gander at Sketchup, its a great piece of concepting software, free.

[nick3d]

Take a gander at Sketchup, its a great piece of concepting software, free.

O crap, i forgot i had that on my comp :(

[nick3d]

*bump*

Finally finished digging,took bloody ages and now i am fucked and pretty much cant walk lol
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/last.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/fernn001/last1.jpg

[MetKiller Joe]

Awesome. Congratulations on the completion of the digging phase.

[nick3d]

Yeah we got to have it cemented at the bottom then got to build the walls up from inside the pond, then got to back fill them :( with soil which is all over the place lol, weve moved about 80 tonnes of soil

[SnaFuBAR]

you don't use concrete for a pond...

[Chainsy]

Hm? He's adding soil on top from what I believe, and how would concrete hurt it? The ponds around here in Texas have brick and concrete walls.

[SnaFuBAR]

Brick and concrete raise the alkaline levels of the water, which, for the majority of decorative fish, is harmful.

[nick3d]

Errrm well...
We are having the concrete poured in next saturday, then we are building the walls up from the concrete, then we are having it fibreglassed. so does that answer your questions lol

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And plus they are japanese koi carp which are decorative :)

[Apoc4lypse]

bak at the thing about how to do stuff to scale... in 3dsmax its not hard to do but just annoying I guess, tedius in a way. I'd personally just use autocad to do this because itd be fast as hell... (30 mins at most probably less time). Auto cad isn't too hard to figure out, I took an intro class for it and all i needed to know was a few basics and the rest was pretty simple and simillar to max. Just setup to take exact messurements (which is why itd be easier and much faster in autocad, since its just a layout right)

If you want a 3d model Solid Works is definately better (never used this personally I dont have it), but you can make a 3d model in autocad its just one of those things, its more tedious because solid works is made for dealing with scale 3d models and autocad is just for scaled layouts mostly.

Each program is geared torwards different activities.


3dsmax - stuff that looks cool with some form of scaling, good for rendering and animating.

Maya - Same as max but I believe its better at animating and better for Uvm mapping as well as some plus's to its rendering capabilities.

AutoCad - Scale layouts and diagrams/blue prints, and in newer versions some 3d capabilities.

SolidWorks - Scale 3d models.

[nick3d]

i have always said that maya is better than 3ds :P

[Llama Juice]

I think the title of this thread is funny, considering the bulk of the images posted are of him working on the real pond.

[Chainsy]

Brick and concrete raise the alkaline levels of the water, which, for the majority of decorative fish, is harmful.
Oh ok, yeah, ponds here only have hardy fish, and there usually never large, like gold fish, though I did in a large canal by the city after a flood, the small damn/bridge went under water, which was concrete, and had concrete rocks with fencing around the shore to stop erosion, but anyways it went about a foot underwater, and as it receded the small walls to keep people from falling over created a small lake, trapping these 3 foot long fish, me and my dad grabbed some plastic bags (yay pollution actually saved some lives) and we hooked them with the bag and flung them into the water, sort of reminded me of discus.

[nick3d]

I think the title of this thread is funny, considering the bulk of the images posted are of him working on the real pond.

I was on about the design lol then i kinda turned it into a W.I.P. of the pond being built can you change the name of your threads?

[SnaFuBAR]

Errrm well...
We are having the concrete poured in next saturday, then we are building the walls up from the concrete, then we are having it fibreglassed. so does that answer your questions lol

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And plus they are japanese koi carp which are decorative :)

Oh ok, it's being fiberglassed. I was under the impression that it was going to remain brick/concrete. I have koi, too.

Fiberglass or pond liner are good. I would favor pond liner over fiberglass, though... Fiberglass resin actually takes years to fully cure. Laying some sand on top of the concrete before laying pond liner is the most desirable thing in this scenario, but would be a pain in the ass if it were to tear.

[nick3d]

Oh ok, it's being fiberglassed. I was under the impression that it was going to remain brick/concrete. I have koi, too.

Fiberglass or pond liner are good. I would favor pond liner over fiberglass, though... Fiberglass resin actually takes years to fully cure. Laying some sand on top of the concrete before laying pond liner is the most desirable thing in this scenario, but would be a pain in the ass if it were to tear.

It's going to cost us about 2k for it be fibreglassed, but it is the best way to have, if your a koi keeper and your properly into it, and if your from the UK then you might of heard of richdon koi, well my dad is building his pond using tips of the owner and we are using the same filteration system as they do which is a settlement chamber then a chamber with jap matting in. And he recommends fibreglass, because we are currently keeping out fish in a kids swimming pool lol, and fibre glass only take at the most a week for to be ready for filling up, where as liner your supposed to fill it and leave it for a couple of months then empty it and then refill then it will be safe for your fish or something like that, we did have it on our old pond but when we were cleaning it we kinda punctured it, where as fibreglass is just a hard cover which is hard to break let alone crack.