FUCK COMPUTER

[FRain]

So I come downstairs and my computer is off. Odd, but not unusual considering my antivirus runs at 2am so it might have found something and closed.


I see the light for "computer on" is still on. So I do the power toggle thing where I go into the back, turn off the power supply in the back, push the button, and switch it back and turn it on.

The computer starts to boot up like normal but then at random times it just flatlines in the middle of boot up. The "Computer On" green light is still on, however. Any ideas?

[FRain]

New: I just attempted to start my computer in safe mode. It got the farthest being able to open up the default screen but about 2 minutes into the startup the computer flatlined again.

[MetKiller Joe]

Have you checked the temperature in the BIOS? It sounds like a CPU overheat to me.

Also, if you can, is the chipset a 680i by nVidia?

[FRain]

No. NVidia A7N8X

[InnerGoat]

A7N8X is an nForce 2 board. The AXP line is real old now and your heat sink fan may have died.

[FRain]

My computer seems to be running for now. I started it up in safe mode and it stayed on for a while. I restarted in regular mode and its working. This seems to happen alot and I will leave this thread open incase it happens again.

Yes I am aware this is an old chipset.

[FRain]

A7N8X is an nForce 2 board. The AXP line is real old now and your heat sink fan may have died.

This seems to be the case. The computer is acting up again this morning so I checked the temperature in the BIOS and the power supply is running at 95* F and the CPU is running at 135* F. This is definitely an overheat. I looked in my fan settings and none of my fans are running.

[FRain]

29-hour bump

[MetKiller Joe]

Did you check whether the fans were plugged in?

[FRain]

No, not yet. I really want to refrain from opening up my computer unless it is necessary.

[ExAm]

No, not yet. I really want to refrain from opening up my computer unless it is necessary.You should check to make sure the fans are running by opening it. The danger of static discharge is really overblown. Just be sure to touch the metal part of the case immediately before poking around in there and you'll be fine.

[=sw=warlord]

You should check to make sure the fans are running by opening it. The danger of static discharge is really overblown. Just be sure to touch the metal part of the case immediately before poking around in there and you'll be fine.
pretty much.
The motherboard i got in my pc now was on a carpet floor for 7 months if that dosnt kill it then i doubt you opening the case to have a peek inside your computer will fry it.

[Donut]

when you say flatlined, what do you mean? if you are talking about the screen crapping out and the computer not doing anything, something similar happened to my laptop last summer...

unrelated, i was installing a graphics card driver update as i was typing this post. just as i was about to click "post" the whole screen went black for a moment.

[FRain]

By "flatlined" I mean everything dies. No beeps, no noises, nothing. Just the standard click and the downward pitch of the computer turning off. This can happen not even 10 seconds after booting up or 3 minutes after I'm into the desktop. What is a decent temperature for the CPU and power supply.

[ExAm]

Check what your computer's plugged into, maybe you're overloading the circuit?

[FRain]

Possibly. It's a full 6-plug power strip.

[FRain]

bump.

I've been able to get it into safe mode and it be able to run for two hours, but when I try to restart it into normal mode it just kills itself again while my desktop loads.

Christ, I need a new comp.

[deathret]

Good temps are around 35 - 45 imo.

Take everything non essential out and check your connections. Check any errors in the admin tools in the control menu. What does it say. Have you ran virus and spyware checks? Is the CPU or HD under a load when it happens?

[FRain]

Good temps are around 35 - 45 imo.

Take everything non essential out and check your connections. Check any errors in the admin tools in the control menu. What does it say. Have you ran virus and spyware checks? Is the CPU or HD under a load when it happens?

Not going to take anything out because I really don't know how to build a comp and dont know what i should/shouldnt take out.

Ever since my shitty virus incident in september, my antivirus runs every morning at 2AM (Avast! for on the go protection and AVG scans at 2am)

[deathret]

Not going to take anything out because I really don't know how to build a comp and dont know what i should/shouldnt take out.

Ever since my shitty virus incident in september, my antivirus runs every morning at 2AM (Avast! for on the go protection and AVG scans at 2am)

Knowing how to build a computer is easy. But if you don't care to learn or don't want to mess around in there. I think your done. I woud say take it in to get it repaired or buy a new one... Good Luck.

[spikes15]

ok this might sound stupid but i had almost the exact problem, computer was on but blank screen so i thought it might be the same problem that u have but i know how to build a pc so i checked and every thing was working. so i changed the monitor and it worked :D

dno if it will work but its a posibility...

[FRain]

Alright, I opened it up and poked around in there for about 20 minutes and everything checks out fine. Nothing is loose, nothing is disconnected.

Grr, this is beginning to really piss me off. I still need help kthx.

[Roostervier]

Um, if your heatsink ever came loose, you will have to wipe off all the old thermal paste and re-apply new thermal paste, and make sure your heatsink is secure. If there are air-pockets then it can still overheat.

[Ifafudafi]

Something similar to this happened with the computer I built. It was working fine for a few months, but then it just died after a while. I removed the casing and left it open, laying on its side, and then it ran fine, which led me to believe it was a heating issue, although nothing was out of the ordinary.

So now I just leave the side of the case off. Interestingly, my graphics card started performing about twice as well after that; I'm now able to run Crysis at a straight 40FPS, 1280x1024, max settings :awesome:

Not sure if that has any relevance to your issue, but you might try it.

[FRain]

3-month bump cause i feel like it.

I've been trying repeatedly to get my comp working for the past months but have had the same problem. It boots up and just kills itself at random intervals in the boot (at windows xp boot screen, 20 minutes after it starts, etc, but the most common is at the boot screen) and I've become so pissed off that I took the whole computer out of the case and laid a towel down and rebuilt the comp and left it out in the open. I thought this would at least allow it to get farther but it hasn't changed anything. Does anyone have any reccomendations for a cheap, yet stable new motherboard that I could get thats less than $100? I'm sure the problem is the mobo because 1- it's ancient 2- even if i remove all but necessary parts it still crashes.

Can anyone help me to fix this problem, or find me a less than $100 mobo that i could get to attempt to solve this problem? Thanks.

[legionaire45]

If you can, dl an OS that lets you boot off a live CD like Ubuntu.

Try booting into it and running the OS off the disk (LiveCD for Ubuntu IIRC, probably called the same thing for others). It will be pretty obvious as to how to do this from the boot menu that Ubuntu gives you; if you need help with that there are lots of people here who know what they are doing when it comes to Linux or or you can google it.

If the computer boots into Ubuntu then your problem is probably software related (eg. Windows needs a nuke). If not, then it's assuredly a hardware issue and you'll probably end up having to replace something.

In that case, get yourself a $10 PSU testor and test the PSU, since that could have been damaged by a power surge or whatever. If that checks out then try running Memtest (should be included with Ubuntu on the live CD - it'll be called "test memory" or something like that), for an hour or so. If all of that checks out then it's probably the motherboard and you can go ahead and get a replacement.

Very rarely CPUs will get damaged and start becoming really unstable, although I don't think that is the case.

It could also be a periphreal like a video card or something, so keep that in mind as well.

With the price of stuff now, it might be a good idea to go ahead and just update the entire thing, assuming you have the money.

[FRain]

I've ran a distribution of linux (BackTrack 2) on my comp already and it still crashes but its not a hard-crash, it just goes into kernel panic when it does. But however, Linux is the one that stays running the longest, and it only seems to crash after I've had the comp running for longer than 20 minutes, but I can't seem to get an internet started up.

I'll try Ubuntu, but I don't know when I can DL it because right now the comp I'm posting on is my mom's laptop and this is actually the only working comp in the house.

And I have some money, but probably not enough to upgrade the whole thing.

[Cortexian]

Your best bet would be to save up and upgrade the motherboard AND processor. Preferably something Intel/Nvidia based, and it's honestly not hard AT ALL to build a PC, just remember two key things:

1) Don't force anything into place unless you know FOR SURE that it's supposed to go there (Ex: Heatsinks and Processors require some force to mount sometimes).

2) Always touch a metal part of your case before touching any other components, if you can't remember if you touched metal already, do it again.

From there, everything is pretty much made so that it will only fit in the right holes/slots.

[ExAm]

From there, everything is pretty much made so that it will only fit in the right holes/slots.Oh, ATX, what would we do without you.

[Amit]

Oh, ATX, what would we do without you.

Aggy didn't seem to care :lol:

[ExAm]

Aggy didn't seem to care :lol:
Haha oh man, that was a classic. "LOL AGP AND PCI-E ARE INTERCHANGEABLE YOU GUYS ARE DUMB".

[Cortexian]

Haha oh man, that was a classic. "LOL PCI, AGP AND PCI-E ARE INTERCHANGEABLE YOU GUYS ARE DUMB".
ftfy.

[FRain]

grrr finding a motherboard that stil supports AGP is fucking hard.

and a PSU that supports IDE data, molex AND SATA as well.

[legionaire45]

AGP is dead and so is your graphics card.

Get yourself a cheap HD4-series card or something, at this point you're just wasting money by buying a board with support for AGP.

[FRain]

Yeah, I really want to upgrade my whole comp, but the last time I was given more than $50 for something other than food was about 9-10 months ago.

[Cortexian]

So don't rely on money that's given to you. Get a job.

[LlamaMaster]

Or use an auto survey plugin for prizerebel. Shits so cash.

Edit: And legal...

[FRain]

I was going to get a job over the summer. It wouldn't interfere with school and then I could work full 8-hour shifts to get paid more.

E: Prizerebel?

[Rook]

So don't rely on money that's given to you. Get a job.

I have a job and have been waiting to build my comp for over a year. >_>

Shits shit.

[Amit]

I have a job and have been waiting to build my comp for over a year. >_>

Shits shit.

Because your job sucks? Find a better one. In Ontario, working at the minimum wage for over a year will get you more than enough money to buy new parts for a computer. Of course, I'm not sure of your other financial responsibilities/priorities.

[Cortexian]

I have a job and have been waiting to build my comp for over a year. >_>

Shits shit.
Wtf? I'm currently making like $1600-$2000 in a MONTH doing retail, man your job musk suck. Unfortunately all my money is going away to car/school funds so I have to budget for PC/Airsoft shit still. :gonk:

[FRain]

What do you think would be better?

Plan A- Wait until I can get a job in the summer and buy a whole new comp then.

Plan B- Get an AGP board now so I can actually have a comp that works (~100) and then get a job in the summer then I rebuild my comp.

[legionaire45]

Plan A.