NOW NOW NOW WINDOWS 7 BETA FREE AND LEGAL

[Dwood]

http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=87715&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

BOTTOM LINKS; on the post by Smart Cat there's 32 and 64 bit the problem isn't the key's it's the downloads right now Good luck!

[TheGhost]

Thanks, starting now. *4 hours left*

[Sel]

We got these in IRC like

8 hours ago.

[Dwood]

We got these in IRC like

8 hours ago.

As long as someone benefits from the post it doesn't really matter does it?

Simply because not everyone visits IRC.

[Sel]

Need keys :saddowns:

[Hotrod]

Starting now as well, 2 hours to go.

[Saggy]

Started to download, it's going to take an hour. Also, what's this about keys? I thought this was legal?

E: Nevermind. The links were only supposed to be given to beta participants who already have keys. Good luck finding one.

[Dwood]

Started to download, it's going to take an hour. Also, what's this about keys? I thought this was legal?


It is legal. We need the keys though...

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/156706/how_to_get_your_mitts_on_the_windows_7_beta.html

[Saggy]

It is legal. We need the keys though...

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/156706/how_to_get_your_mitts_on_the_windows_7_beta.html
Ah, ok.

Also,


That's it? Nothing else? Last thing, we swear. The Windows 7 beta is actually an upgrade, not a full new install. You need to have a machine running Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) to install the beta.
So if you're still running Windows XP -- which a lot of people are, what with Vista's problems, real or imagined -- you're up a creek sans the proverbial paddle.

Shit...

[Dwood]

Ah, ok.

Also,


...

I'm going to try it on a non-vista machine and see what happens

[Hotrod]

So, is there a way to make a partition on my drive after my OS is installed? Or do I have to do it while formatting the hard drive? I want to try out Windows 7 with dual-boot, but I only have one partition at the moment...

[Dwood]

Saggy these people downloaded it even though their topics are on 32 bit/ 64 bit not clean install.




One out of two sucks. I successfully snagged a 64 bit buikd of "7" but got hosed on the 32 bit version. Since my Vista is 32 bit, can I use the 64 bit download as an upgrade.

No. You need a clean install.

There is a messy workaround that involves using the Windows Easy Transfer or whatever that's built into Windows to kludge a 32-to-64-bit upgrade but it really, really is inadvisable based on what I've heard.

I suspected that was the case. Will the two coexist in a dual boot set-up?

There are multiple ways to partition your drive but it would take a while. Might I suggest some kind of ad-hoc virtual pc?

This is meant as an 'upgrade' to Vista (what happens when it ALL ends in August though?)

[DrunkenSamus]

Based on someone's review, it's what Vista should have been and the gaming performance is as good as XP if not better, sounds good. :) But that's just one review so........balls.

[NullZero]

Heh, I'm going to wait till the real thing comes out :)

[Amit]

I go to the Microsoft site and click the download for Windows 7 Beta but it just gives me dots moving around in a circle...endlessly.

[Huero]

There are none left on microsoft's site

[flibitijibibo]

Posting from Windows 7.

As of right now, Windows 7 is taking more RAM than Vista did. >:U

Hopefully my Left 4 Dead benchmark will make me feel good about it.

Edit- It didn't.

[=sw=warlord]

I just got a Key, now to get that download button to work...
Some reason i click the button it starts to look like its doing something but then it stops again...
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5930/vista7le4.jpg

[Ki11a_FTW]

its letting me dl it :|

i dont want to download this though, since it is just a beta,and i only have 1 good pc, but it sounds a whole lot better then vista, ill defiantly be getting this when its released.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Its not working for me, but I managed to get 5 keys for 32bit, and 5 keys for 64bit lol

[Timo]

I installed the beta last night, only took around 20 minutes from me putting the disc in to using the OS which is pretty neat.

e: now i've just got to get dual boot working.

[StankBacon]

I just got a Key, now to get that download button to work...
Some reason i click the button it starts to look like its doing something but then it stops again...
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5930/vista7le4.jpg



Windows 7 Beta (x86) : 7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULXFRE_EN_DVD.ISO (http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-45A4-B985-F0FDFFE1B021/EN/7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULFRE_EN_DVD.ISO)
Windows 7 Beta (x64) : 7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULXFRE_EN_DVD.ISO (http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-45A4-B985-F0FDFFE1B021/EN/7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULXFRE_EN_DVD.ISO)



also, im on windows 7, made it my main os since i needed a reformat anyway... (got 8 keys lol)

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Those links wont work for me.

[InnerGoat]

The links are good...

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Not for me, hmm....
:conspiracy:
wait wat, it works in ie
hmm
:conspiracy:

[Phopojijo]

They work for me in firefox (although I already have a copy from last night)

[Amit]

Its not working for me, but I managed to get 5 keys for 32bit, and 5 keys for 64bit lol

I have yet to find the web page that assigns you a key.

And those links don't work for me in Google Chrome. I'd use Firefox but it's full of viruses. I'd use IE to try it out, but that's also full of viruses. Chrome is faster anyways.

[ShadowSpartan]

I have yet to find the web page that assigns you a key.
First sign in here: http://login.live.com/

Then go to one of these pages.
32-bit: https://www.microsoft.com/betaexperience/productkeys/win7-32/enus/default.aspx
64-bit: https://www.microsoft.com/betaexperience/productkeys/win7-64/enus/default.aspx

For some reason, it doesn't work for some people. If it doesn't, PM me. I have a few extra 32-bit keys.

[Donut]

I just got a Key, now to get that download button to work...
Some reason i click the button it starts to look like its doing something but then it stops again...
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5930/vista7le4.jpg
what the fuck, same with me. its pissing me off

[DEElekgolo]

I just got a Key, now to get that download button to work...
Some reason i click the button it starts to look like its doing something but then it stops again...
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5930/vista7le4.jpg
I got the same problem.

[Amit]

First sign in here: http://login.live.com/

Then go to one of these pages.
32-bit: https://www.microsoft.com/betaexperience/productkeys/win7-32/enus/default.aspx
64-bit: https://www.microsoft.com/betaexperience/productkeys/win7-64/enus/default.aspx

For some reason, it doesn't work for some people. If it doesn't, PM me. I have a few extra 32-bit keys.

Thanks, I figured it out from an article from some website but those direct links are good.

I think I'll just install the Pre-Beta Build 6956 I already have while I wait for Microsoft's servers to loosen up.

[Cortexian]

So If I have a 75GB partition for Windows 7 on my "C: Drive", how hard is it to remove that partition and reintegrate it with my whole drive? I realize that I'll have to edit the boot file so that Windows 7 is no longer there, could someone point me to a guide that explains all the dual boot-files and stuff? I have my PC setup as a triple-boot configuration right now with XP, Vista, and Windows 7... Usually when I upgrade any OS I can change the boot options from the "msconfig" (System Configuration) Boot tab in Vista, will this be the case with Windows 7 (can I just remove the Windows 7 boot option from there, then format the partition and reintegrate it with my "C: Drive")?

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

It shouldnt be too hard, It just depends on the tool you use for partitioning drives.-nii

[Cortexian]

I use Acronis Disk Director for my hard drive manipulation...

[armoman92]

I've had build 7000 for a while now, i got it like a week ago. Is there anything different about the official beta.

[Dwood]

It seems you can't download the beta anymore?

[Sel]

It seems you can't download the beta anymore?

Yup.

It was limited to 2.5 million keys, and once those were used no additional downloads started after would be allowed. However if you started downloading it before the keys were used, and didn't get a key you still get to use it for up to 120 days using the entirely legal re-arm command.

[Dwood]

Yup.

It was limited to 2.5 million keys, and once those were used no additional downloads started after would be allowed. However if you started downloading it before the keys were used, and didn't get a key you still get to use it for up to 120 days using the entirely legal re-arm command.


Hey people for those without Windows Vista:



I read through info, but I don't see an answer to this:

You guys running this as new install, or an upgrade?

You can only upgrade from Vista SP1, anything less requires a clean install.

From the Beta download: Installation instructions (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-installation-instructions.aspx)


Now you must make an important decision: whether to perform a custom (clean) installation or an upgrade installation.

Custom (clean) installation:

Your computer has no operating system installed, or it’s running a version of Windows prior to Windows Vista with Service Pack 1 (including Windows XP).

You do NOT want to preserve your data, programs, or system drivers.

You want to delete your current operating system and replace it with Windows 7.

You want to create a multiboot system by installing the Windows 7 Beta on a separate hard disk partition. (For more on multiboot, see Install more than one operating system).

Once you’ve installed Windows 7, you can use Windows Easy Transfer to move data and settings from your other Windows computer to your new system.

Upgrade installation:

Your computer is running Windows Vista with Service Pack 1. (Not sure? Click Start, right-click Computer, and then click Properties. Under Windows edition, look for “Service Pack 1” next to your Windows Vista edition name. If you don’t have Service Pack 1 installed, or your computer is running an earlier version of Windows, you can’t perform an upgrade installation. )

You DO want to preserve your data, programs, or system drivers.

You’re upgrading from either a 32-bit version of Windows Vista to a 32-bit version of Windows 7, or a 64-bit version of Windows Vista to a 64-bit version of Windows 7.

You’re upgrading to the same Windows language. For example, from English to English.

Again, an upgrade installation allows you to keep intact the files, settings, and programs from your current version of Windows. But you can only perform an upgrade under these certain conditions, described above.


;)

They sky is bright for XP users!

[Sel]

If you install it on an xp computer, just install it on a different partition, it should set up a working dual boot fine.

[Dwood]

For those of you looking for a partition editor/creator Gparted is there, burn the iso to a cd like you did Win 7, and go from there it's pretty easy imo.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

[flibitijibibo]

For those of you looking for a partition editor/creator Gparted is there, burn the iso to a cd like you did Win 7, and go from there it's pretty easy imo.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
It's probably helpful to point out that this is for XP users. Vista users have a lovely partition function, found in Start Menu, right-click Computer, Manage, Storage, Disk Management. From there, you can shrink, expand, delete, and create new partitions.

[Amit]

I'm still looking for a download link.

[Lex1337]

Anyone want the iso. file and a key for it? First to msg me on xfire gets it.

I don't want to install the beta on my everyday comps.

XFire: iarceus

[Cortexian]

Anyone want the iso. file and a key for it? First to msg me on xfire gets it.

I don't want to install the beta on my everyday comps.

XFire: iarceus
Why would anyone want it from you when they can just get it from the Microsoft website (https://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx) (Scroll down, choose OS version and language, click go, print page with key).

Also, you can go to the above link multiple times to get multiple keys for friends/other computers. I have 3 of each bit version as of now.

[Heathen]

Isn't all of this highly frowned upon by the rules?
Or am I missing something here...

[InnerGoat]

What, sharing public betas and keys that most people got 20 copies of already?

(posting on a week old W7 install)

[Heathen]

ah, Public beta. ok.

I would do it if I wasn't lazy.

[ultama121]

Ummm what?

Why would you think that? This beta isn't leaked... its given out by Microsoft.

If you're talking about Freelancer's post... I'm not entirely sure about the legality of taking multiple keys. Lol.

Edit: GOAT.

[Heathen]

Okay...so I have limited knowledge on all this bs so someone help me.

I dualboot xp and Ubuntu.
I however dont use Ubuntu at all.
How would I go about removing ubuntu and getting w7 in its place?

And remember, I am practically retarded as far as all this goes.

[Cortexian]

Okay...so I have limited knowledge on all this bs so someone help me.

I dualboot xp and Ubuntu.
I however dont use Ubuntu at all.
How would I go about removing ubuntu and getting w7 in its place?

And remember, I am practically retarded as far as all this goes.
Have fun, disk management is generally a nightmare unless you can afford to reformat all the time.

[Heathen]

Okay, well as far as partitioning or whatever shouldn't that be all done?

I have Ubuntu on thar so if I just get rid of that and put Vistexpee there in its place that should work right?

[InnerGoat]

Disk management is fun and easy, guy.

[Cortexian]

Disk management is fun and easy, guy.
Not when it doesn't work because it can't relocate sectors to make room for a partition shrink.

:gonk:

[InnerGoat]

oic.

Anyways, Windows 7 on the main system now. woooooosh

[Varmint260]

I just installed Win7 on a partition. Can't tell yet if it's running any faster than Vista, but I hear it's a lot less of a system hog. Looks like it only took up about 8 gigs of my 17 gig partition... for my horrifying HP-customized Vista installation, about 18 gigs. Quite a difference. Plus, for the first time, I have at least 1.2 gigs of my RAM that's free while Windows is idling along, instead of ~300mb. Not bad, not bad! I'm gonna have to install HaloPC and see if it runs any better ;)

Has anyone noticed many performance increases/decreases versus Vista or XP?

EDIT: Installed and ran HaloPC. Noticed some slight pauses in between the intro videos not present on either Vista or XP... but on the bright side, all graphical artifacts I had with Vista seem to have disappeared. Frame rate hasn't improved though :(

[Cortexian]

I just installed Win7 on a partition. Can't tell yet if it's running any faster than Vista, but I hear it's a lot less of a system hog. Looks like it only took up about 8 gigs of my 17 gig partition... for my horrifying HP-customized Vista installation, about 18 gigs. Quite a difference. Plus, for the first time, I have at least 1.2 gigs of my RAM that's free while Windows is idling along, instead of ~300mb. Not bad, not bad! I'm gonna have to install HaloPC and see if it runs any better ;)

Has anyone noticed many performance increases/decreases versus Vista or XP?

EDIT: Installed and ran HaloPC. Noticed some slight pauses in between the intro videos not present on either Vista or XP... but on the bright side, all graphical artifacts I had with Vista seem to have disappeared. Frame rate hasn't improved though :(
Any negative issues with games will probably have to do with the fact that you're running beta software, without stable drivers.

[Sel]

I noticed increased framerates in source games.

I was able to run them on higher resolutions at all high, Crysis on the other hand went down.

[klange]

I'm not an overzealous dickwad (hell, most Linux users aren't, especially the developers). After some time away from home, I'm installing the beta on my laptop (have an extra partition, happens to be the one Vista was once on). Just need to find a blank DVD.

Also, what's this about keys? They gave me a key when I went through the regular download process (just, the downloader failed to load, but I got the file rather easily).

e: Found a disk, now I need some ntfs formatting packages...

e: All up and running. Seems okay so far... Still need to fix my boot loader, though.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Ive been using it for a while, but the following i've noticed: google chrome wont work, IE8 is the buggiest thing ever, and lots of programs crash after short time use.
e: after a bit, I've noticed that most programs that dont seem to work, work if you put them in compatibilty mode, thats fortunate.

[nick3d]

what is it?
does it run for vista :S
im confused.com

[Amit]

Ive been using it for a while, but the following i've noticed: google chrome wont work, IE8 is the buggiest thing ever, and lots of programs crash after short time use.


Google Chrome barely works in XP. I can't even go to previous pages of e-mails in Hotmail nor can I use the search function built into the Hotmail page.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

@nick
this is simply a beta operating system, like vista or linux, but in beta form, I'm not sure if you want it though, i would suggest that you backup your current OS if you plan to, also, is the fact that there is a beta fish as the default background part of the fact that its a beta OS?

[Amit]

@nick
this is simply a beta operating system, like vista or linux, but in beta form, I'm not sure if you want it though, i would suggest that you backup your current OS if you plan to, also, is the fact that there is a beta "sea-kitten" as the default background part of the fact that its a beta OS?

FTFY, god.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Google Chrome barely works in XP. I can't even go to previous pages of e-mails in Hotmail nor can I use the search function built into the Hotmail page.
For me, chrome works perfect in both xp and vista.

[Heathen]

Google Chrome barely works in XP. I can't even go to previous pages of e-mails in Hotmail nor can I use the search function built into the Hotmail page.
since tf when?

Mine works fine.

[Lex1337]

Why would anyone want it from you when they can just get it from the Microsoft website (https://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx) (Scroll down, choose OS version and language, click go, print page with key).

Also, you can go to the above link multiple times to get multiple keys for friends/other computers. I have 3 of each bit version as of now.
Nevermind, ignore that post. I heard that there was a limited number of them and since I didn't need it, I wanted to give it away.

[Timo]

Ive been using it for a while, but the following i've noticed: google chrome wont work, IE8 is the buggiest thing ever, and lots of programs crash after short time use.
e: after a bit, I've noticed that most programs that dont seem to work, work if you put them in compatibilty mode, thats fortunate.

What programs are you having trouble with? Everything for me runs just as well as it did on XP/Vista.

[flibitijibibo]

Daemon Tools is the only software I had trouble with, and my X-Fi won't install on W7. If anyone has a fix for the X-Fi, let me know so I can smoother you with love and rep.

[klange]

Daemon Tools is a very kernel-dependent application (but then, I didn't have any problems install an IFS, so...)

[CodeBrain]

Edit: Fuck me I'm stupid, I got the beta key so I dont need the hack lolz.

[Varmint260]

Any negative issues with games will probably have to do with the fact that you're running beta software, without stable drivers.

Oh, I know that. I was just reporting my experience with HaloPC in Windows 7 because it's a beta. I was just curious to see what other people were noticing if running HaloPC in 7 as well. Plus, I don't count a slightly longer pause in between the intro videos to be a negative issue, just something I've noticed. Overall, the game improved when not running on Vista ;)

Only reason my frame rate didn't improve is probably 'cause, no matter what OS I'm running, my graphics card still sucks ;)

[Cortexian]

:words: my graphics card still sucks ;)
iawtp.

[Amit]

Video card isn't his only problem.

[Varmint260]

Video card isn't his only problem.

Oh, son of a gun! Thanks for pointing that out. It looks like the specs I have down are for my Mom's old computer. I'll be updating those ASAP!

[Terin]

Man, installing Windows 7 was so easy. Everything just worked right off the bat. The new task bar is pretty intuitive, and I'm already getting used to it. I just hope that it isn't too expensive. It seems like it will be in versions, though, as the beta is "Windows 7 Ultimate". I wonder what kind of features they'll axe for the lower-end versions...

Also, H2V works in Windows 7, in case anyone was wondering.

[klange]

Easy? Maybe. But holy frick did that installation take forever (in true Windows style). I'd much rather install Ubuntu...

[t3h m00kz]

Might replace my Vista install with this.. still think I'll keep my primary OS to XP though ;D

[Dwood]

Might replace my Vista install with this.. still think I'll keep my primary OS to XP though ;D



That would probably be best.
6 months from now the Beta will end and I will (hopefully) be able to continue using Windows 7 until I can purchase the OS.

I would also like to report that Win 7 installs in Virtual Box! (just doing that for curiosity fyi)

[Varmint260]

Also, H2V works in Windows 7, in case anyone was wondering.

Does it run any faster than in Vista, like it does when it's hacked to work in XP?

[InnerGoat]

Probably. I should install it and know for sure :downs:

[Cortexian]

Urg... I'm not sure if it was the Windows 7 installation that I setup, or the new RAM that I installed, but BOTH operating systems have been going bonkers with BSoDs and crashes.... I'm trying to figure out what the issue is, and since I've updated my BIOS things seem to be running a little smoother. It looks like it may have been my RAM to blame...

E: And now my 3Ghz overclock settings refuse to boot properly...

[Phopojijo]

Either the RAM or the overclock.

Overclocking is an art... what once worked might in other cases cause bluescreens of death.

[InnerGoat]

Urg... I'm not sure if it was the Windows 7 installation that I setup, or the new RAM that I installed, but BOTH operating systems have been going bonkers with BSoDs and crashes.... I'm trying to figure out what the issue is, and since I've updated my BIOS things seem to be running a little smoother. It looks like it may have been my RAM to blame...

E: And now my 3Ghz overclock settings refuse to boot properly...
It'll take a little more voltage to get the same overclock if you've got 4 sticks of ram in it.

[Cortexian]

It'll take a little more voltage to get the same overclock if you've got 4 sticks of ram in it.
The box for the RAM says 2.1v will get you the advertised 5-5-5-15 timings, I assume that refers to only two DIMMS then? I don't have to increase it to 4.2v do I? That's a little insane...

[InnerGoat]

Not the ram , the chipset voltage. Dunno what it's called on that board.

[Cortexian]

Not the ram , the chipset voltage. Dunno what it's called on that board.
Oh, VCore iirc.

[InnerGoat]

http://img.neoseeker.com/v_image.php?articleid=2017&image=34

it would be NB core voltage in this shot, i think.

[Cortexian]

http://img.neoseeker.com/v_image.php?articleid=2017&image=34

it would be NB core voltage in this shot, i think.
In that image,

VCore is basically the "CPU Voltage".
Memory Voltage is... You guess it...
1.2V HT Voltage is... I have no idea...
NB Voltage is the "North Bridge Voltage".
SB Voltage is the "South Bridge Voltage".
CPU VTT Voltage is the "CPU Voltage cut-off for a save voltage settings".
Others, idk.

I was able to get to 2.8GHz by playing with the VCore and CPU VTT, everything else is on Auto.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

H2v doesnt work
any game that requires gameguard doesnt work, IE8 crashes on any site with over 4 200x300 images.

[Cortexian]

IE8 crashes on any site with over 4 200x300 images.
Good thing we don't use IE!

Also, stable at 2.9GHz with the following voltage settings:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2362/img00023200901131912eo6.jpg

[InnerGoat]

H2v doesnt work
any game that requires gameguard doesnt work, IE8 crashes on any site with over 4 200x300 images.

H2V works, I installed it a few hours ago and the game is shit as usual. The mouse acceleration bug is still there too... :smith:

[Wakeboy1337]

Hay posting from Windows Seven. I must say this build is even faster and more intresting than the last one I tried a month or so ago. (6801) I want RTM nao!

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Didnt work for me, when I tried to activate it, rundll32 just crashed, maybe its because I chose upgrade?

[Phopojijo]

Yeah probably.

Upgrade rarely ever works for any version of windows, like -- ever.

Especially if you had a virus or program edit the kernel...

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Like a custom disk?

[InnerGoat]

Yeah probably.

Upgrade rarely ever works for any version of windows, like -- ever.

Especially if you had a virus or program edit the kernel...

It worked fine updating windows 95 to ME so many years ago :woot:

[Bodzilla]

It worked fine updating windows 95 to ME so many years ago :woot:
no it didnt.

cause you still ended up with ME :v: