[Wip] Fracture

[Higuy]

Well, yea. Dee still needs to do lightmaps. Made by tm.
Tm = Disaster, Sheer, Killa_ftw, Dee, HiguyD
And some help from Cmt
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/map1.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/map2.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/map3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/map4.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/map5.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/map6.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/map7.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/map8.jpg
ill get some more pics later.
As I stated ealier, dee is doing the lightmaps, so I just need to wait for him to get on.
Crit please =]

[SonicXtreme]

looks nice , but for some reason the banshee looks messed up , obviously i cannot correctly crit the map until the lightings done , as that adds alot to the other all feel of the map , as for the geometry , the H3 style forerunner stuff is a nice touch :)

[mcwesalot]

Looks cool, banshee looks kinda strange though. Custom or classic?

[Higuy]

The banshee has a custom skin. We are messing with shaders with it too kinda, so yea.

[Inferno]

Get rid of the detail map in the banshee skin and make a new one. Add bumps to all the indoor shaders also they are kind of flat and ew.

The outdoor area looks very nice though.

Also whats with the black squares?

[Higuy]

All of the out door has a bump, and as I stated were still messing with the ghost and banshee shader.
Btw, im using shader hack when I took those pictures so yea.

[TeeKup]

Decent looking maps are starting to be released. I like this.

[Inferno]

Sorry when I said environmental shaders I meant the shader_environments. Should have said Indoor shaders that's what I meant.

[Higuy]

Sorry when I said environmental shaders I meant the shader_environments. Should have said Indoor shaders that's what I meant.
All Indoor shaders have bumps as well. Even though the shader hack makes bumps stand out, from a bit away, you may not notice them becuase of the cubemap being so shiny.
And the black squares were caused because of my high res monitor and halo fly cam mixing together.

[Inferno]

Yeah uh disable the shader hack and show me what the shaders actually look like because they look disgusting and gross in those pictures.

[Con]

That looks like a fun map, keep it up!

[MetKiller Joe]

Looks nice, you tiled the banshee a mite too much,though, because I can see a lot of repetition of little tiles to seem to be what you were going to put as the diffuse.

[KiLLa]

yea, just scale down the detail map on the shee...
and the metal shaders and what not, are a tad TO shiney for my liking...
Other than that, looks good especially the organic stuff..

[paladin]

I was too busy looking at the sky to notice the rest of the map....

[Higuy]

I took the shader hack off, and there still kinda shiny. Im gonna get dee to help me out with them considering he's pretty good with that stuff, when he has the time.

[Disaster]

Damn, Our maps lookin fuckin sexy :). I really like the terrain though. When I can get back on my computer ( I've been sick) , We can consult and see what we should do.

[Arteen]

It looks cool, but you really need to fix that one supershiny forerunner texture.

[DarkHalo003]

Map looks great. Can't wait to play it.

[Heathen]

looks great!

[Sel]

Christ higuy, lose the shader hack already.

Otherwise very nice.

[SnaFuBAR]

i like it, except for the base. The environment has a pretty good mood to it, keep up what you're doing, it looks pretty decent.

[Higuy]

Christ higuy, lose the shader hack already.


no.
<3

[Heathen]

I was too busy looking at the sky to notice the rest of the map....
cfgc

[Heathen]

Am I the only one who sees those black boxes on the pics?

[Donut]

Am I the only one who sees those black boxes on the pics?
higuy said that the boxes are an effect that flycam has on his computer because of his resolution

[Heathen]

ah...okay.

[LinkandKvel]

Is that DEE's sky? It looks AMAZING. Sometimes I DO wish the halo 1 engine was updated these days for better graphics. I usually don't care for graphics, but that sky just seems to outshine the map. Good map regardless. Like the layout.

[Higuy]

The sky was orgionally Cmt's. We changed a few things about it though. And yea, it does look really nice :)

[Heathen]

Thats where I recognise that mountain. My favourite CMT map. Tensity.

[DEElekgolo]

Nom nom.

[Lateksi]

Looking really nice, it has some Valhalla feel in too. Could you add little piles of snow to darker places?

[teh lag]

Bsp/environment looks pretty damn cool.

Banshee looks bleh. Revert to original please.

Shaders look bleh. Some are cool, but some (especially the forerunner metals in pic 2) are terrible. Try to get more consistency in quality, since nothing can ruin a map more than inconsistency. See pic 4 for a severe example of this - the original H1 shader is in STARK contrast to the others. Start by changing the cubemap. Don't brush something like that off.

As a sub-category, you need to get cleaner bumps for those shaders. They just look messy in some parts and really detract from the feel of the map.

Sky should sit the rest of the environment - either make the environment more snowy (preferrable) or the sky background more rocky (it would be best if you did both). Also, add some light fog cover - just something to give it more atmosphere.

You're off to a really good start, and I'd hate to see a map like this get screwed over by poor polishing.

[Evil_Monkey]

I really like the style of the environment and the selection of trees that you have chosen, I also like the use of the filler trees. Not many people put the time in to add these which greatly improves the appearance of the environment outside of the map.

The outside ground texture? from the pictures it sorts of looks like Danger Canyons, not sure if it is or not. Are you going to change this and make some sort of paths that define some wear and tear where vehicles have been driving?

I would really recommend changing the cubemap that is on the large forerunner structure and some on the smaller base that is connected into the cliff. I take it you are going to add some rocks and shrubs?

Banshee looks ok, but I personally would prefer the H1 banshee skin. Are you changing any other skins for the vehicles or weapons?

The end product, from what you have now looks promising. Keep up the good work.

[L0d3x]

Hmm I like where this is going, the only crit I have is that the interiors could use a bit more interesting geometry.

[zigfie]

the map is bad

[L0d3x]

Troll alert?

[TeeKup]

Ignore him, he's been dealt with.

[Pooky]

For some reason, I really don't like the doors. I think it's that little rectangular bit on top.

Other than that, this looks pretty awesome.

[Geo]

For some reason, I really don't like the doors. I think it's that little rectangular bit on top.

Other than that, this looks pretty awesome.


Other than the actual outline of the door, I always found them to look rather humanish. Idk why.

[Higuy]

When I said I took the shader hack off, I actually didn't. (I thought I did :(, sorry about that.) Well now that it actually is off most of the textures are alot less shiny. The one most of you are complaining about, is still pretty shiny; this one:http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/Untitled-2.jpg I'm not really the best with shaders, normally dee does em'. So how do you make it less shiny?


@monkey, No thats not Danger Canyons ground skin, we made are own.

[Heathen]

why take off the shiney?

[killer9856]

Also, I cant wait to see my part of the terrain :)

[Ki11a_FTW]

why take off the shiney?

because the parts that are shiny dont fit the rest of the map

[Inferno]

Also because that shader hack makes all the forerunner shaders look fugly.

[Higuy]

Shader Hack only goes for one person, not the entire map.

[PopeAK49]

When I said I took the shader hack off, I actually didn't. (I thought I did :(, sorry about that.) Well now that it actually is off most of the textures are alot less shiny. The one most of you are complaining about, is still pretty shiny; this one:http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/Untitled-2.jpg I'm not really the best with shaders, normally dee does em'. So how do you make it less shiny?


@monkey, No thats not Danger Canyons ground skin, we made are own.

I should of gave you my model of the base. Not saying that your's is bad or anything, but if i still had the 3ds file of the base i would of added ramps to it and gave it to you for use. =]

[Advancebo]

The base, I believe, is based off a Halo 3 Forerunner structure from the campaign.

[killer9856]

Which one? That is the question o_O

[Heathen]

how is that a question?

[Corndogman]

One of the bases is based off of the big towers from the level "The Covenant" but not the one in that image.

[Advancebo]

One of the bases is based off of the big towers from the level "The Covenant" but not the one in that image.

I thought it looks like the control room in The Ark, the area when you just finish fighting the scarab.

Also, I think it would look better, if you make the forerunner, oldish. Or color scheme similar to "The Ark" Forerunner.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Wow, great trees/sky/cliffs
Why does halo always have cliffs?

[Corndogman]

^Because its the only way people know how to make a map closed in. But hey, its better than "FLOATING SHIT IN OUTER SPACE" that you always see.

[Sel]

Wow, great trees/sky/cliffs
Why does halo always have cliffs?

Because this isn't crysis with sharks to seal the level :(

[killer9856]

Wait Crysis has sharks in the water?

>=D

[Lateksi]

Check out some videos, they're hilarious. Look for something like "crysis crazy shark".

[DEElekgolo]

Gah. Ive been annoyed by higuy long enough. Here is the lightmapping for fracture so far. Still setting it up but this picture looks pretty cool anyways.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3964/lightmap1us3.jpg

[Disaster]

:D Thats gonna look awesome ingame

[DEElekgolo]

Here is the kind of thing that will be in the self illumination tutorial. Mind the blobyness, the low quality settings do that so i can get faster renders when rendering.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4527/baselightbp3.jpg

[Higuy]

O shit :D :D

[killer9856]

Hot damn.

[DEElekgolo]

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8241/middlera6.jpg
Sun is set correctly with the sky now.

[killer9856]

Its got that dusk feel, Im loving our map. =D

[DEElekgolo]

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3708/middlezoomedvb5.jpg
Wort wort wort.

[SonicXtreme]

Just wondering , can we see a wireframe of the level please? i would like to see how well its been constructed :)

[Ki11a_FTW]

nice

[Inferno]

Dee if you light yoyorast like that it will be sextacular.
Good job.

[DEElekgolo]

GAH! The lightmap uvs rape the awesome lightmaps. If only we would have Custom UVs for the lightmaps.
*hint hint*Firescythe*hint hint*

[Higuy]

Here are fracture lightmaps. Halo CE's lightmap uvs screwed up about 70% of the awesome.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5813/haloce2009011621265040it7.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9036/haloce2009011621273570aw1.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6138/haloce2009011621234353ub9.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3847/haloce2009011621235710hp5.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8260/haloce2009011621240398hq1.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7186/haloce2009011621242000fr1.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/982/haloce2009011621242746me7.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5527/haloce2009011621252728rw4.jpg
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff :(

[LinkandKvel]

I've never thought about this but would it be faster and a better outcome if you ran lightmaps on a level that had no textures, basically just the model of the level, THEN compiled the map with the textures and applied the previously made lightmap?

EDIT: or am I noticing that's what you guys did?

[paladin]

you forerunner textures need to be more rustic looking. They dont look like they belong in the setting. Just my thoughts.

[Higuy]

I've never thought about this but would it be faster and a better outcome if you ran lightmaps on a level that had no textures, basically just the model of the level, THEN compiled the map with the textures and applied the previously made lightmap?

EDIT: or am I noticing that's what you guys did?
Yea, thats basically what we did, but as you can see the lightmaps got messed up

[paladin]

add water. this map needs water.

[Lateksi]

add water. this map needs water.

Yes. If there's no snow unlike on the mountains, it would be logical to think the snow has melted.

[Higuy]

Gah, when we had modeled the entire bsp, half the entire map was covered with water. When we first tried getting the bsp ingame, we were expecting error's but not like this. We got errors on the entire river bed and said it was open edges. We tried doing scenery, but it didn't look good at all. I tried getting the water ingame again threw the bsp, and it worked. But when you looked at the water, black lines would appear and some of the faces became entire tessalated with black lines. It wasn't becuase of Vista either, and if there werent black lines it would of looked really bad anyway. Atm we do have water in there, as the ocean and one is at a pond.

[Apoc4lypse]

I was too busy looking at the sky to notice the rest of the map....

This.

Sky is mega win, I love the enviroment, looks nice. I do agree some of the forerunner textures look rather flat to me idk.

E: didnt notice the length of the thread, looking at the new pictures, with different light maps, it looks good, but very dark in some spots.

[Bad Waffle]

I dunno if this was answered or not, but "shinyness" in environmental shaders can be controlled with an alpha map in the diffuse texture.

[Higuy]

Well, we have a big error that needs help. It's the lightmaps. Even when we try to run regular lightmaps threw tool, they mess and there's random shadows popping out of no where, its really weird ( We think its the uv's). We made those lightmaps out of tool. Earlier today when I tried to run them threw Sapien it was saying, "Radiosity error: Out of memory". If any one could tell us or show us how to fix this (if there's even a way), please do so because we don't want to make this map look like crap. Soon as that is fixed we can pretty much go into full product mode.

[Legend]

It's probably something that has to do with compiling more lightmaps then the halo ce engine has to offer. The halo ce engine probably has a limit to the amount of memory it uses when compiling certain lightmaps and is not use to compiling such detailed lightmaps in your map. I could be wrong though.

[Higuy]

Bump. Still need help.

[Bastinka]

Those black squares in the screenshots too, get rid of that annoying tomfoolery. (On the first page.)

Can't really say for sure yet, needs to be played..
Metal looks a bit too reflective and bright for my tastes, did you change the shader?

[Alwin Roth]

The sky is amazing, and i like the mountains in the back.

too bad i cant have specular turned on... -_-

[Hunter]

I am not reading through the pages to see if this has been mensioned but why is the skybox bitmap snowy and the actual map not?

Also,
I think that some nice battered and grungy metal textures on the forrunner stuctures would make the map twice as good.

[sevlag]

The sky is amazing, and i like the mountains in the back.

too bad i cant have specular turned on... -_-rave halo does get annoying doesn't it? still trying to find a solution to your problem man...

anyways, looks good, can't wait to play this

[Higuy]

Yea we fixed the shader.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/fixed.jpg
Still need help with lightmaps.

The banshee shader has been fixed to, so its really not extremely weird looking now.

[Inferno]

Those shaders look MUCH better. Good job.

[Legend]

The outside part of the base seems too empty, and could cause some game play problems for those who are fighting on the top of the base and need cover when there shields are down. I suggest adding an electric generator like the ones on the bridges of A.O.T.C.R.

[Alwin Roth]

rave halo does get annoying doesn't it? still trying to find a solution to your problem man...

anyways, looks good, can't wait to play this

its not just doing rave now, but seems to go "emo" now, black spots appear over shadowed places... so i got "raving, emo, bug" going on now :(

[killer9856]

The outside part of the base seems too empty, and could cause some game play problems for those who are fighting on the top of the base and need cover when there shields are down. I suggest adding an electric generator like the ones on the bridges of A.O.T.C.R.

I had a feeling someone would say something about that. In the beta I was upset on the amount of empty space. I was hoping to have my river I planned for, but it didn't happen. However I have been inspired by something :)

[DarkHalo003]

Shaders look better. Glad to see it. Will there be plenty of dogfighting capabilities on this map?

(Dogfighting as in Banshee Dogfights.)

[Higuy]

Yes. There are some pretty decent dog fights, as during a beta we had a couple days ago showed.
Were going to use the default textures from Halo as seeing not a whole lot of people like them that much ( Including me ) If Disaster wants to release them he can. Most of them are just simple remakes though.
We also had to add some more hills, and rocks in some places ( Mostly in front of the base) as seeing you could easily be shot and had no where to run. Other then those, the map to most people was fun. Just needs tweaking here and there. Hopefully won't be to much longer till all of you get to play it.

[DEElekgolo]

TM_Fracture is a client to project relinquish. More info here (http://deelekgolo.fps-zone.net/?page_id=15).
Here are before and after pics. The before pictures are made using halo CE's built in lightmapping. The after shows the lightmaps after they go though project relinquish.
Before:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5638/haloce2009022022301696.png
After:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7285/haloce2009022022332726.png
Before:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1926/haloce2009022022302670.png
After:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4631/haloce2009022022334282.png
Before:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5907/haloce2009022022303276.png
After:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6113/haloce2009022022340228.png
Before:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1317/haloce2009022022314448.png
After:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6771/haloce2009022022352520.png



Ya dood.

[Masterz1337]

Wheres the fog in your pics dee?

[DEElekgolo]

When I rebuilt the map with the new light maps it got rid of the fog. It will be fixed in the final version. I just send these lightmaps to higuy and he does what ever else he wants with it. Next up I'll be lightmapping yoyocrast. It will probably be my best.

Edit: It was pointed out that the fog doesnt show up in the water either. Turns out when higuy sent me the map. I had to rip the scenerio using HEK+. Which I can inferr caused the fog to not show up.

[SnaFuBAR]

All of the shadows are parallel, right?

[DEElekgolo]

Yes. Everything is physically correct.

[SnaFuBAR]

pretty good then.

[Higuy]

Looks awesome Dee!

[Disaster]

Wow. Thats awesome. When snaf says pretty good you know you did a good job :awesome:

[Con]

its a bit dark

[Bastinka]

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3971/haloce20090220223332032.png
Gonna just state my opinion, things circled in red look very... odd and out of place to me.

[SnaFuBAR]

Wow. Thats awesome. When snaf says pretty good you know you did a good job :awesome:
I'm not going to bullshit, it looks good. I wonder, though, do these shadows become part of the ground bitmap, or is there an actual cast shadow that objects interact with?

[DEElekgolo]

Its a lightmap. So when an object goes into the shadows, it doesnt infact get darker. The ground bitmap is unlit. The only thing that is defining the darkness and lightness of the map is the lightmaps I gave it.

[SnaFuBAR]

Well done.

[Sever]

I'll give you props for making some good-looking terrain and whatnot, but your forerunner architecture needs some work. The tower section that you've taken from 'The Covenant' needs to have the spire, not just the base, to look any good. Otherwise, it looks like it should be jutting out of a massive cliff face, not just embedded in a hillside. Also you should work on the textures and detailing for all of your structures quite a bit. It has potential though, so keep at it.

[DEElekgolo]

Higuy said he wanted to get rid of the lightmaps because of 2 errors.

[Masterz1337]

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3971/haloce20090220223332032.png
Gonna just state my opinion, things circled in red look very... odd and out of place to me.

I think it looks fine, but regardless of what I think, who are you to tell him how to not do his forerunner structures? It's his art, he can do whatever he wants to his forerunner structures.

[Disaster]

Higuy said he wanted to get rid of the lightmaps because of 2 errors.
Fix the errors and make the map slightly brighter. :woot:

I won't let him redo them ;)

[PlasbianX]

I think it looks fine, but regardless of what I think, who are you to tell him how to not do his forerunner structures? It's his art, he can do whatever he wants to his forerunner structures.

PMSing much masterz? Its called critique. He's simply saying it just doesn't look right. I agree with him, they don't seem to fit the structure all that well.

[Masterz1337]

So if it doesn't "look" right what exactly is wrong with it? There's a difference between constructive crit and complaining. If you don't know what's wrong with it, or don't have any opinion of it other than you don't like it, no one cares what you have to say.

[SnaFuBAR]

Perhaps the person critiquing the work doesn't have the artistic vocabulary to accurately portray the design inconsistencies. Who do you think you are to say that nobody cares what he has to say? Whether or not he's inadequately stating his opinion, he's right.

[Masterz1337]

I'm sorry, but haven't we had numerous discussions and threads about how people on this forum don't know how to crit and only do it because they see older members doing it?

No one has been even able to say what's so "wrong" about it. So what exactly is the design inconstancy? It doesn't look like the forerunner structures in the other games? From what I've seen, H2 Forerunner looks way different than H1 Forerunner, and H3 Forerunner looks way different than H2, and Halowars looks way different than H3.


this isn't bungie, this is personal art

[.Wolf™]

True..I bet bungie would agree on that.

[jngrow]

While the shadows cast themselves, look great, the lighting of the map itself, the ambiance, is really boring in my opinion.

Regardless, still a good a job.

[DEElekgolo]

to bad higuy wants to get rid of the lightmaps and would rather use the halo CE crappy ones.

[SnaFuBAR]

I'm sorry, but haven't we had numerous discussions and threads about how people on this forum don't know how to crit and only do it because they see older members doing it?

No one has been even able to say what's so "wrong" about it. So what exactly is the design inconstancy? It doesn't look like the forerunner structures in the other games? From what I've seen, H2 Forerunner looks way different than H1 Forerunner, and H3 Forerunner looks way different than H2, and Halowars looks way different than H3.

Yes, we have, but that was in reference to valid points stated by artists and the bandwagoneers jumping in, quoting/agreeing and generally being malignant in the attempt to put someone down.

Let me, then, state what is "wrong" with it (or rather, what is unappealing) since I beta tested this, and know that they are actually looking for input. These objects are rather simple, undetailed blocks. They lack character, definition, and is losing cohesion to the rest of the base. They are unsubstantial and very much detract from the experience in game.

[SnaFuBAR]

to bad higuy wants to get rid of the lightmaps and would rather use the halo CE crappy ones.
heh... that's kinda ridiculous. they looked good in game and i didn't come across any errors that i took notice to.

[Disaster]

heh... that's kinda ridiculous. they looked good in game and i didn't come across any errors that i took notice to.
There was a big error in teh back of hte base. ANd some of the caves were a bit to dark. Other than that they are pretty good.

[Higuy]

Then state the 3 ways. I was sure you only told me 1. Just say it.

[DEElekgolo]

1 was decals. 2 was to use scenery to cover the messed up parts. 3 was to use dynamic lights.

[Choking Victim]

4. Redo Them.

[Masterz1337]

Yes, we have, but that was in reference to valid points stated by artists and the bandwagoneers jumping in, quoting/agreeing and generally being malignant in the attempt to put someone down.

Let me, then, state what is "wrong" with it (or rather, what is unappealing) since I beta tested this, and know that they are actually looking for input. These objects are rather simple, undetailed blocks. They lack character, definition, and is losing cohesion to the rest of the base. They are unsubstantial and very much detract from the experience in game.
I'm sure it was a much broader discussion than people just parroting. You know that there's people on this forum who think that complaining and criting are the same thing. If Silent Wind had posted reasons for not liking it, like you just did, well then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Masterz1337]

to bad higuy wants to get rid of the lightmaps and would rather use the halo CE crappy ones.

Rather than try to pressure your leader into doing what you want by posting an inter team argument, how about you fucking fix the errors that he and Duce noticed?

[DEElekgolo]

I cant. The light map UVS fuck it completely.

[PopeAK49]

Ya i do have to agree that the things silentwind pointed out are quite blocky. I think you should also add some cover to the top of the base instead of having those covenant energy shields.

[Masterz1337]

I cant. The light map UVS fuck it completely.

Well I guess that's a good reason not to use your system.

[Sel]

what the fuck is going on here and why can't I make heads or tails of this arguement :suicide:

[Choking Victim]

I cant. The light map UVS fuck it completely.
iirc, if you recompile the bsp and lightmaps, the uv's are reset. However, I haven't done this in awhile, so I'm not too sure. It's worth a shot.

[Roostervier]

I'm sure it was a much broader discussion than people just parroting. You know that there's people on this forum who think that complaining and criting are the same thing. If Silent Wind had posted reasons for not liking it, like you just did, well then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
I can't believe you just wasted a page of this thread complaining about someone's crit. Do you have nothing better to do? Even though you don't, it's not your place to complain about it. If you've got a problem with it, either -rep him, report the post, or pm him. No one gives a shit if his crit doesn't live up to your standards.

[DEElekgolo]

iirc, if you recompile the bsp and lightmaps, the uv's are reset. However, I haven't done this in awhile, so I'm not too sure. It's worth a shot.
We tried this multiple times. We had this problem with 2 maps I think. Some little things would change but the problem would persist.

[Advancebo]

Why not just screw the "special" lightmaps and just use the tool/sapien generated lightmaps?

[Masterz1337]

I can't believe you just wasted a page of this thread complaining about someone's crit. Do you have nothing better to do? Even though you don't, it's not your place to complain about it. If you've got a problem with it, either -rep him, report the post, or pm him. No one gives a shit if his crit doesn't live up to your standards.
What crit? My standards? The same standards that mods and admins also claimed they believed in?

And don't you have better things to do with your time than backseat moderate and flamebait? I guess so, trying to convince people Obama is a Muslim must get old after a while.

[Bastinka]

I think it looks fine, but regardless of what I think, who are you to tell him how to not do his forerunner structures? It's his art, he can do whatever he wants to his forerunner structures.
You realize that I clearly stated I was stating my opinion?

E: Talk about ignorant, some people just have bad days :(
No need to be a meany masterz..

[.Wolf™]

More cover in some parts of the terrain(middle)would be cool.It was funny when we had a game going..For like 2 mins:P

[Higuy]

I asked most people what they thought of the gameplay after we were done. Most people said that it was pretty fun, except getting some more cover in the middle wouldn't be such a bad idea. The only serious game we had was pretty much when snaf was in the server lul

[Sel]

What /t * lol isnt part of a serious game???

[Higuy]

You weren't there when were playing on gamegodlazy's server or skillits

[RobertGraham]

So far I like this, but it looks like there could be more done to the front of the base, but since its ingame already...

[Sel]

You weren't there when were playing on gamegodlazy's server or skillits

I know, but those servers aren't real because they are not hosted in the land of the free.

[RobertGraham]

I know, but those servers aren't real because they are not hosted in the land of the free.I hate playing on German Servers...

[Rook]

Play another beta in the HCEL server, I missed it.

[rossmum]

Looks pretty nice, though the structures stand out just a little too much. Darkening them to fit the environment a little better should do it, or perhaps use some weathered textures like on Immure 2 (map owns). Water also wants replacement with something more suitable, but on the whole it's definitely going places.

[Disaster]

If we had some good forerunner textures, seeing as I'm not the best at them, we could probably make the structures look really good.
E: If anybody wants to give it a shot, we'd really appreciate it.

[Advancebo]

Fracture Gameplay:
Part 1 (http://www.xfire.com/video/9fa21/)
Part 2 (http://www.xfire.com/video/9fa12/)

Sorry for the quality, Fraps and Xfire sucks

Higuy has some high quality screenshots coming.

[PopeAK49]

Coolio this is tight.

[Joshflighter]

OMg, you have green rep advance? :OOOOO

Anyways, yea, it works, and its actually really cool. It keeps the banshee whores in place. :|

[Advancebo]

It keeps the banshee whores in place. :|

Stop talking about yourself, lol.