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Rob Oplawar
January 15th, 2009, 12:01 AM
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Seriously, people are fucking idiots. This is one of the most convoluted, ridiculously complicated, completely idiotic free energy schemes I have ever heard of.

Let me save you guys a bunch of time: there's no such thing as free energy! If they mentioned something about heat exchange, gaining warmth from the water it sits in, then I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, but I mean for fuck's sake. The reason this is so stupid is because a bunch of people obviously put a lot of thought and effort into this, and nobody has taken the time to do the calculations to realize that what they're talking about is a physical impossibility. :facepalm:

Ifafudafi
January 15th, 2009, 12:37 AM
I don't have to reiterate how stupid (if well-intended) this concept is, but I will. I mean, with a foot-long toy plane, maybe, but air compressors and helium aren't enough to lift and move a commercial plane at any speed or height that's useful. Hell, look at blimps. Those ran on light gases and the tanks are so fucking massive it's not even funny.

And for god's sake, it's pronounced "turb-eye-ns", not "turb-eh-ns," unless you plan to generate electricity with a Middle-Eastern head wrap.

itszutak
January 15th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Besides the calming music and overly verbose description (luckily I'm smart and understand most of what they're saying), it sounds like a lot of concepts: Great on paper, but forgets or ignores some simple physics law along the way and decides to carry on. I'm sure this wouldn't work-- not because I have some master ability to work this stuff out in my head, but simply because of the verbose way they tried to mask what the plane-thing actually does.

From 4:30 onwards I had a hard time continuing to listen to it.

One of the first things they mention is the use of helium to lift the plane. That's the "fuel", and it does need "refuelling" in order to keep flying. Admittedly, helium isn't inflammable, and it is cheap, but the process to extract it isn't exactly "green".

Rob Oplawar
January 15th, 2009, 12:58 AM
What really got me was when he said that the helium was pushed out of the balloons by compressing air from outside with compressors driven by compressed air. I mean, what the fuck, where the fuck do they think the energy gain is in that equation? If your source of energy is compressed air and your desired effect is to have compressed air... What the fuck?

itszutak
January 15th, 2009, 01:15 AM
What really got me was when he said that the helium was pushed out of the balloons by compressing air from outside with compressors driven by compressed air. I mean, what the fuck, where the fuck do they think the energy gain is in that equation? If your source of energy is compressed air and your desired effect is to have compressed air... What the fuck?
Must have missed that- too verbose. And that's why people fall for it. It's too much for the average joe to understand, so they assume the pretty pictures and nice muzak mean something important. This blurb probably came with some request for funding at the end, which was cropped out- the whole point of this thing was, most likely, to make money off of some poor saps who didn't know any better.

Timo
January 15th, 2009, 02:33 AM
I never knew that you could compress air with compressed air and end up with more compressed air than before. It's a miracle.

SnaFuBAR
January 15th, 2009, 02:48 AM
Yo, Dawg, we heard you like free energy so we put a compressor on your compressor so you can fly while you fly.

Bodzilla
January 15th, 2009, 02:59 AM
Yo, Dawg, we heard you like free energy so we put a compressor on your compressor so you can fly while you fly.
Legendary post.

Rob Oplawar
January 15th, 2009, 12:38 PM
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CN3089
January 15th, 2009, 12:48 PM
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of
Apparently you haven't heard of people not knowing that the correct superlative of "stupid" is "most stupid," heh http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-smugdog.gif


And for god's sake, it's pronounced "turb-eye-ns", not "turb-eh-ns," unless you plan to generate electricity with a Middle-Eastern head wrap.

hmmmm somebody hasn't heard of alternate pronunciations (it's you)

L0d3x
January 15th, 2009, 12:57 PM
I did the calculations, it works.

DaneO'Roo
January 15th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Are you trolling or are you just that stupid.

L0d3x
January 15th, 2009, 02:21 PM
Are you trolling or are you just that stupid.

I think the sarcasm was rather obvious, you don't want to get into an intelligence discussion with me.

Note that you provoked my unfriendly response.